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I'm too old to even date 22 year olds. Even if I were to turn into a not autistic average looking guy, I still would only get used-up hags.

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I'm 26 now. The agepill comes with a lot of sorrow, balding, poor health etc...

But one other problem is the women that I would even have access to.

All those years of inceldom I've been near younger women, in school, in uni - these are the times to live. That's when women are at their most beautiful, when it's actually worth it to invest in a relationship.

Even if tomorrow I became a normal dude, all the women that would be interested in me would be somewhat old already. Some have kids, all of them have had relationships for more than 10 years. The youth has disappeared from their faces, even their so-called personalities are uglier, none of the cute charisma of a girl, just an old, calculating woman.
 
And worst part is all your young ages you've spended it alone. I see my future will be like yours
 
You're not too old to date 22 y.o. Foids fuck with guys 20+ years their seniors.
 
You're not too old to date 22 y.o. Foids fuck with guys 20+ years their seniors.
Can vouch. Was in a discord server with fair amount of sluts. Many of them have fucked 40+ year old guys
 
You're not too old to date 22 y.o. Foids fuck with guys 20+ years their seniors.
Yes, they do fuck them, but those guys are usually Chads or full of money, and it's no loving relationship.

Guys at 20 had relationships with 20 year olds, got to enjoy their youthful love, their youthful bodies, living in the moment with few thoughts towards the future.
 
Yes, they do fuck them, but those guys are usually Chads or full of money, and it's no loving relationship.

Just FL at foid "love". Grills don't love.
 
Just FL at foid "love". Grills don't love.
I know that, but at a younger age they're still cute, still somewhat naive, they pretend to love pretty nicely, and it's a joy to cuddle and have sex with them. By 26 all their youthfulness is gone.
 
Agreed, I'm now 30 and my parents don't think I have a shot with a younger girl, they think that's too picky, they even were hoping to set me up with an older woman, obviously that fell through as they were deluded about her feelings about me, but it was depressing to think about still. They still advise me that hoping for an early 20s gf is making things harder than they need to be.

What adds to the pain is they thought it was perfectly fine to leave me to rot during youth, without connections or any of the basic help you provide a male child who has no intrinsic value by default, no useful advice or anything like that, and now that I've shockingly lost all that useful time, spending it on working, staying in school and coping with the loneliness, suddenly it's time to "grow up" and marry a woman older than me, like I've had too much fun!

It is incredibly difficult and the only shot is finding a poor materialistic girl, otherwise you are fucked, and in my experience most cuteish poor girls are not materialistic, they love dating some poorfag their age who scratches some dumb itch, like resembling her favorite footballer or something.
 
Agreed, I'm now 30 and my parents don't think I have a shot with a younger girl, they think that's too picky, they even were hoping to set me up with an older woman, obviously that fell through as they were deluded about her feelings about me, but it was depressing to think about still. They still advise me that hoping for an early 20s gf is making things harder than they need to be.

What adds to the pain is they thought it was perfectly fine to leave me to rot during youth, without connections or any of the basic help you provide a male child who has no intrinsic value by default, no useful advice or anything like that, and now that I've shockingly lost all that useful time, spending it on working, staying in school and coping with the loneliness, suddenly it's time to "grow up" and marry a woman older than me, like I've had too much fun!

It is incredibly difficult and the only shot is finding a poor materialistic girl, otherwise you are fucked, and in my experience most cuteish poor girls are not materialistic, they love dating some poorfag their age who scratches some dumb itch, like resembling her favorite footballer or something.
It pains me to read this since I'm in the same boat. 30 year old women can still be attractive, but what every man desires deep down is a young and somewhat innocent woman. Having your first relationship be some 30 year old hag that's been on the cock carousel for the last 15 years is somewhat off-putting. But I can't even get these 30 year old hags so whatever.
 
Agreed, I'm now 30 and my parents don't think I have a shot with a younger girl, they think that's too picky, they even were hoping to set me up with an older woman, obviously that fell through as they were deluded about her feelings about me, but it was depressing to think about still. They still advise me that hoping for an early 20s gf is making things harder than they need to be.

What adds to the pain is they thought it was perfectly fine to leave me to rot during youth, without connections or any of the basic help you provide a male child who has no intrinsic value by default, no useful advice or anything like that, and now that I've shockingly lost all that useful time, spending it on working, staying in school and coping with the loneliness, suddenly it's time to "grow up" and marry a woman older than me, like I've had too much fun!

It is incredibly difficult and the only shot is finding a poor materialistic girl, otherwise you are fucked, and in my experience most cuteish poor girls are not materialistic, they love dating some poorfag their age who scratches some dumb itch, like resembling her favorite footballer or something.


of course not, you're male.

if american, mutilate your penis at birth, treat you like shit, give you zero support, then tell you to be a beta bucks to an old fat woman who fucking hates you
 
Yup, I'm 36 and still in disbelief at that fact. I bring my age up a lot, because it really bothers me. Maybe people who's youths were squandered feel especially bitter about aging.

Women my age are just not very attractive, plain and simple. In addition, I tend to fetishize youth, so the idea of having a relationship with a woman my age fills me with nausea. Even if I got plastic-surgery and lined my pockets with gold I would still be regulated to old hags.

But, this is all theoretical. In reality I cannot get anyone. Well... I won't let life win. I won't let my needs go unfulfilled. I owe it to myself to have one bite of the delcious cake nom nom nom before I vacate this abhorrent existence.

now that I've shockingly lost all that useful time, spending it on working, staying in school and coping with the loneliness, suddenly it's time to "grow up" and marry a woman older than me, like I've had too much fun!
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I got a super-potent ragefuel one day while pursuing OKCupid. A woman in her early 30s, my age at the time, wrote something to the effect of 'I want someone to build a stable life with. We've already had our time partying and one-night stands in our 20s, now it's time to grow-up and be adults.'

:fire::fire::fire::fire::fire::fire::blackpill::blackpill::blackpill::feels::blackpill::blackpill::blackpill::fire::fire::fire::fire::fire::fire::fire:

The idea that women my age expect me to have boring long-term-relationships with them (all the while beta-buxxing), because we have both sown our wild oats in our 20s really really angers me. Unfortunately, the girls I've known have exactly the same strategy. They slutted around in their 20s, but in their 30s they make men prove they are worthy of their pussy (by $$$) rather than just giving it freely as they used to. Isn't that a fucking joke? When girls are in their prime they fuck guys on first meetings, but when those girls get old and used-up they make men work a lot harder for sex!!!!

Good looking guys get pussy for free, normies pay for it, and incels get nothing. What a wonderful fucking world.
 
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Yup, I'm 36 and still in disbelief at that fact. I bring it up a lot, because it really bothers me.

Women my age are just not very attractive, plain and simple. In addition, I tend to fetishize youth, so the idea of having a relationship with a woman my age fills me with nausea. Even if I got plastic-surgery and lined my pockets with gold I would still be regulated to old hags.

But, this is all theoretical. In reality I cannot get anyone. Well... I won't let life win. I won't let my needs go unfulfilled. I owe it to myself to have one bite of the delcious cake nom nom nom before I vacate this abhorrent existence.
I don't think you fetishize youth, it's only natural for a man to desire a young woman. That's just how we are wired. Normally, males get their fill of young women, dating since the age of 15 and enjoying as many young women as he can. By age 30 he's tired of the shallowness of young women and he wants to settle down and have kids. We haven't had the chance to get tired of younger women though.
 
You're old as your hairline.
I'd burn a candle in your memory at the Norwood cemetery.

 
You're old as your hairline.
I'd burn a candle in your memory at the Norwood cemetery.


I just checked the chart, I'm either norwood V or VI (edit: it's norwood V, I touched my bald spot at the top of my head and there's still some fuzz there), I'm not exactly sure of how my hair looks. Either way, I"m fucked.
 
I don't think you fetishize youth, it's only natural for a man to desire a young woman. That's just how we are wired. Normally, males get their fill of young women, dating since the age of 15 and enjoying as many young women as he can. By age 30 he's tired of the shallowness of young women and he wants to settle down and have kids. We haven't had the chance to get tired of younger women though.
I read one woman observing that men who date younger girls often didn't succeed with girls when they were younger, and now that they have big money, are trying to get what they feel is owed them in their adult-hood. She thought this was petty and disgusting, and all I could do was have exact feelings of empathy.

I hate women judging men. We're never supposed to slut-shame, or shame fetishes, but how often do we hear women have conniptions about getting dick pics? THIS IS MEN'S SEXUALITY. Instead of us feeling shame for sending you pics of our genitals, girls should feel shame for calling us disgusting creeps.
 
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Did you try to get fin or similar drugs ?
Are the males in your family balding as well ?
If I recall, you started balding at... 17yo ?
 
Did you try to get fin or similar drugs ?
Are the males in your family balding as well ?
If I recall, you started balding at... 17yo ?
Yep, at 17 my hairline started receeding (probably accelerated by the fact that I was almost anorexic for 1 year), it all went downhill from there. My dad started balding young too. I don't want to waste money on drugs for balding, I'm pretty much bald now anyway, what's the point.
 
I read one woman observing that men who date younger girls often didn't succeed with girls when they were younger, and now that they have big money, are trying to get what they feel is owed them in their adult-hood. She thought this was petty and disgusting, and all I could do was have exact feelings of empathy.

I hate women judging men. We're never supposed to slut-shame, or shame fetishes, but how often do we here women have conniptions about getting dick pics? THIS IS MEN'S SEXUALITY. Instead of us feeling shame for sending you pics of our genitals, girls should feel shame for calling us disgusting creeps.

"women who want young healthy women because the can make babies are losers"

lol
 
I read one woman observing that men who date younger girls often didn't succeed with girls when they were younger, and now that they have big money, are trying to get what they feel is owed them in their adult-hood. She thought this was petty and disgusting, and all I could do was have exact feelings of empathy.

I hate women judging men. We're never supposed to slut-shame, or shame fetishes, but how often do we here women have conniptions about getting dick pics? THIS IS MEN'S SEXUALITY. Instead of us feeling shame for sending you pics of our genitals, girls should feel shame for calling us disgusting creeps.
Women hate it when men date younger women since they know that their youth isn't coming back. They're very jealous of girls who still have their looks, since that is their biggest asset and value.
 
"women who want young healthy women because the can make babies are losers"

lol
Women hate it when men date younger women since they know that their youth isn't coming back. They're very jealous of girls who still have their looks, since that is their biggest asset and value.
You're right. I don't care if the world thinks I'm piece of shit pedophile for liking young girls, that's just the way men are naturally programmed. It's not our fault people live about 2 times longer than they should in modern times.

Goddamit. I'm taking care of my senile father. Why can't medical technology focus on improving quality of life rather than simply lengthening it????
 
You're not too old to date 22 y.o. Foids fuck with guys 20+ years their seniors.
except you need to be a Chad, since even 50 years old Chad will have no problem with fucking young foids while we rot and are already expired at age of 16.
 
except you need to be a Chad, since even 50 years old Chad will have no problem with fucking young foids while we rot and are already expired at age of 16.
At least when we're older we'll have more money to escortcel young whores.
 
you're a creepy disgusting pedophile if you're attracted to women under 40
 
I'm 26 now. The agepill comes with a lot of sorrow, balding, poor health etc...

But one other problem is the women that I would even have access to.

All those years of inceldom I've been near younger women, in school, in uni - these are the times to live. That's when women are at their most beautiful, when it's actually worth it to invest in a relationship.

Even if tomorrow I became a normal dude, all the women that would be interested in me would be somewhat old already. Some have kids, all of them have had relationships for more than 10 years. The youth has disappeared from their faces, even their so-called personalities are uglier, none of the cute charisma of a girl, just an old, calculating woman.

I feel exactly the same. There is no point after 30. It's like arriving to the world's biggest party within the last hour, once there are a few stragglers, most of the food has been ravaged and there is mess everywhere from party poppers having been let off.

All the time ppl my age were having their fun, I was stuck in front of my computer, playing Half-Life 2, among others.

People our age have had their fun. They are settled with kids now. I refuse to accept old women. This leaves a bizarre situation where I will be interacting with women 1/2 a generation younger than myself.

The whole time I was masturbating to autopsies was the time I should have been out approaching foids.

From all my approaching this year, the handful of pleasant interactions have been with younger foids in their late teens and early 20s. Few of these interactions developed into them asking my age though, if they did they would be instantly repulsed. Old hags are worse than useless, any interaction with those creatures is harmful.

I do urge you to go out and start approaching though, even at 26. I was 28 last year when I started day game, I wish I could have started even at 27, let alone at 26.

At 26 I would say you still have a couple of years of access to 18 year olds. The age pill hit me like a ton of bricks at 28 because I realised I was 10 years older than an 18 year old.

For socialcirclecels like us, the only way we can meet enough women is through day gaming. It's really weird feeling to begin with, you feel like you are intruding on the foid's little world, but after 50 approaches it gets easier.

You realise how limited foids really are. We as men overthink things, foids live in a bubble.
 
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26 is not old but its not young.

True many femoids want marriage, children and financial stability by age 23-25 (UK and increasing USA too).

But if you are putting money and financial security on the table with a career, car and a house then you can slay any girl above the legal age of consent, as you are doing better than most fake status-cels who are a paycheck away from homelessness.

That said society is increasingly shaming men and women with an age difference, seeing it as exploitation and inferring harm if the age gap is more than 3 years. 3 years FFS!
 
new rule, years that you've spent unable to date because of women's standards don't count when it comes to age differences, only years that you've actually spent dating and sleeping around.
suck on that normies, that means the average 20 year old chick is "older than me", which is pretty much the truth.
 
If you can even attract used up hags then you're more of a Chad than 90% of this forum.
 
If you can even attract used up hags then you're more of a Chad than 90% of this forum.

Yeah but even your average chinless skinnyfat white in the West has been with a young woman or two.
 
At 26 you could marry a 22 year old though. I don't see why you are making a big deal out of it.
 
Feminism ruined women for LTRs. Now they are just pump-n'-dump fuckholes.
 
Agreed, I'm now 30 and my parents don't think I have a shot with a younger girl, they think that's too picky, they even were hoping to set me up with an older woman, obviously that fell through as they were deluded about her feelings about me, but it was depressing to think about still.

So, even your parents are aware of that fucked up dating market then.
 
I would go even lower.
Who gives a shit ...
Of course. I'd marry anyone who's old enough, so teens and upwards. But I'm too ugly for anyone.
 
but how often do we hear women have conniptions about getting dick pics?

And yet females will dress up theirselves like sluts.
 
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So, even your parents are aware of that fucked up dating market then.
They also don't have faith in me, the optimism is just a facade, I will have to prove them wrong.
 
I do urge you to go out and start approaching though, even at 26. I was 28 last year when I started day game, I wish I could have started even at 27, let alone at 26.

At 26 I would say you still have a couple of years of access to 18 year olds. The age pill hit me like a ton of bricks at 28 because I realised I was 10 years older than an 18 year old.

Ohh man, I do not want to approach these creatures. Perhaps I will go to one and just lift her and take her away.
They also don't have faith in me, the optimism is just a facade

Such lovely parents. Of course their optimism is fake, otherwise they would not try to connect you to an older female.
 
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I'm 26 now. The agepill comes with a lot of sorrow, balding, poor health etc...

But one other problem is the women that I would even have access to.

All those years of inceldom I've been near younger women, in school, in uni - these are the times to live. That's when women are at their most beautiful, when it's actually worth it to invest in a relationship.

Even if tomorrow I became a normal dude, all the women that would be interested in me would be somewhat old already. Some have kids, all of them have had relationships for more than 10 years. The youth has disappeared from their faces, even their so-called personalities are uglier, none of the cute charisma of a girl, just an old, calculating woman.
26...... unless you have aged horribly, you're still young enough to get jailbait. I mean, you're getting towards what I call purgatory age. 30-40.....you can have some men who look 10, 12 years younger than their age and then you have guys who look 10, 12 years older.

Some 40 year old men still have the looks to slay late teens-mid 20s women, other 40 year old men look well into middle age and would be labeled as a creep if he tried to talk to a 20 year old
 
Since I’ll probably still be a virgin who never speaks to women hardly due to my anxiety issues, I’ll probably try to focus on something else like staying fit (not that I am) and healthy.

At 30 I rather look fit and youthful doing hobbies that I love, playing video games etc, then rather worry about women and all that.

Why keep stressing about all when all it’s gonna do is make you look worse etc, just try to be happy at that age and take care of yourselves.
This is my plan at least

Doing positive things for yourself could make that big difference
 
All we have left is to rope or cope
 
I'm 26 now. The agepill comes with a lot of sorrow, balding, poor health etc...

But one other problem is the women that I would even have access to.

All those years of inceldom I've been near younger women, in school, in uni - these are the times to live. That's when women are at their most beautiful, when it's actually worth it to invest in a relationship.

Even if tomorrow I became a normal dude, all the women that would be interested in me would be somewhat old already. Some have kids, all of them have had relationships for more than 10 years. The youth has disappeared from their faces, even their so-called personalities are uglier, none of the cute charisma of a girl, just an old, calculating woman.

26 is not that bad, would you date a girl who is 28 and actually looked young though? The Truth is 22 year olds are still going through dozens of men. White girls in particular though age really badly after 25. Yeah its actually quite shit no matter how you look at it.
I'm 26 now. The agepill comes with a lot of sorrow, balding, poor health etc...

But one other problem is the women that I would even have access to.

All those years of inceldom I've been near younger women, in school, in uni - these are the times to live. That's when women are at their most beautiful, when it's actually worth it to invest in a relationship.

Even if tomorrow I became a normal dude, all the women that would be interested in me would be somewhat old already. Some have kids, all of them have had relationships for more than 10 years. The youth has disappeared from their faces, even their so-called personalities are uglier, none of the cute charisma of a girl, just an old, calculating woman.
As a general rule 4 - 5 yrs younger is possible and ok, just extremely difficult.
 
age is bs. If you were good looking, you'd still be fucking with foids in their 20s
if you aren't a slayer being 10 years older obviously makes it way harder, most men aren't perceived as good looking anyway
As a general rule 4 - 5 yrs younger is possible and ok, just extremely difficult.
and I kinda feel like it's mostly just bullshit, e.g 30-40 low experience man dating a 20-30 woman, the only problem would be the woman making up problems, otherwise there wouldn't be any issues with getting along or aging or sexual function or whatever. but if she makes a big deal out of it then yeah, sure.
 
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