I'm not fucking ugly, you're not ugly, the standards are just too fucking high for males.

[Deleted member 7448]

I'm not ugly, I'm tired of thinking of myself as ugly.

I'm not deformed, my face is symmetrical when it comes to bone structure, except for some minor details like a slight overbite and whatnot. Yeah sure I'm nothing to write home about, but I'm not hideous.

But the standards are too fucking high for males. Tiny little things that don't conform to a female's ideal man add up. We're only ugly cause we don't fit that archetype.

Really, none of my physical flaws should make me ugly, but they do because I don't fit the image of the stereotypical male.

Survival became so easy and comfortable in the latter half of the 20th century that even male looks became hyperinflated, everyone becoming obsessed with looks. The practical sex, the functional gender that never cared about such petty matters, was now judged according to feminine values.

I'm bald. So fucking what? Most males eventually bald. But society got so obsessed with looks that what was once something nobody gave a second thought, suddenly became a big fucking deal. You think peasants or soldiers in the 18th century gave a shit about being bald? Same with all my other fucking flaws. They're not really flaws, they're just not conforming to this hyperinflated obsession with looks in society. So I wear glasses, so fucking what? So I have blemishes on my skin. So my wrists and shoulders are tiny, so what? None of these things should make me ugly, but they do because standards for males have become so fucking rigid and high.

P.S: I find it funny how society thinks the exact opposite, that standards for females are high, which is ridiculous. Any 2/10 fat, hairy woman with an awful personality I've ever seen had a boyfriend.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

Idk bro, males also have very low standards these days.
Saint Hamudi once said that he realized it's over when he saw a bunch of chadlites fighting for a landwhale.

 

[your personality]

it's over when he saw a bunch of chadlites fighting for a landwhale.

 

[Hate_my_life]

The definition of "ugly" is not absolute and constantly changing due to Media Propaganda.

Over a decade ago, any woman who had an ounce of bodyfat was undesirable. Eventually out of nowhere, bodyfat on foids (especially in the buttocks and breast area) is glamorized - Thick, BBW, feeder fetishism etc...

There is a huge demand in body augmentation surgery/plastic surgery and any procedures that enhance: the lips, breasts, buttocks.

Similarly for men the definition of "ugly" in the eyes of foids have increased. You are correct in saying that: "You're not ugly" if you consider things from a foids POV back in pre-1999, but today. You. Me. Everyone on here is an abomination and our dating lives reflect that.

 

[Deleted member 21768]

Idk bro, males also have very low standards these days.
Saint Hamudi once said that he realized it's over when he saw a bunch of chadlites fighting for a landwhale.

I would argue it was always low. My standards did not change since I was a kid. The only thing I might have gained is fetishes, but not my attraction. That has not changed.

 

[Selinity]

I'm not ugly, I'm tired of thinking of myself as ugly.

I'm not deformed, my face is symmetrical when it comes to bone structure, except for some minor details like a slight overbite and whatnot. Yeah sure I'm nothing to write home about, but I'm not hideous.

But the standards are too fucking high for males. Tiny little things that don't conform to a female's ideal man add up. We're only ugly cause we don't fit that archetype.

Really, none of my physical flaws should make me ugly, but they do because I don't fit the image of the stereotypical male.

Survival became so easy and comfortable in the latter half of the 20th century that even male looks became hyperinflated, everyone becoming obsessed with looks. The practical sex, the functional gender that never cared about such petty matters, was now judged according to feminine values.

I'm bald. So fucking what? Most males eventually bald. But society got so obsessed with looks that what was once something nobody gave a second thought, suddenly became a big fucking deal. You think peasants or soldiers in the 18th century gave a shit about being bald? Same with all my other fucking flaws. They're not really flaws, they're just not conforming to this hyperinflated obsession with looks in society. So I wear glasses, so fucking what? So I have blemishes on my skin. So my wrists and shoulders are tiny, so what? None of these things should make me ugly, but they do because standards for males have become so fucking rigid and high.

P.S: I find it funny how society thinks the exact opposite, that standards for females are high, which is ridiculous. Any 2/10 fat, hairy woman with an awful personality I've ever seen had a boyfriend.

Same, I'm not hideous, I'm just not attractive, most people on the forum are, but you have to remember looks are relative. In a world of burn victims you'd be a petra chad, but in this world where some men are blessed with height and jawlines your nothing compared to them. If everyone on this forum looked like Chad's but the rest of the world looked like giga-chads it wouldn't matter. Women date the top 20% which is always changing as the parlance of males evolve. Women's hypergamy is always evolving to accommodate the standards of their time.

I wouldn't hate traveling back in time tbqh, it would suck not having internet/modern conveniences but I'd be able to lead a fulfilling life with a nuclear family and sex.

 

[Deleted member 7448]

Same, I'm not hideous, I'm just not attractive, most people on the forum are, but you have to remember looks are relative. In a world of burn victims you'd be a petra chad, but in this world where some men are blessed with height and jawlines your nothing compared to them. If everyone on this forum looked like Chad's but the rest of the world looked like giga-chads it wouldn't matter. Women date the top 20% which is always changing as the parlance of males evolve. Women's hypergamy is always evolving to accommodate the standards of their time.

I wouldn't hate traveling back in time tbqh, it would suck not having internet/modern conveniences but I'd be able to lead a fulfilling life with a nuclear family and sex.

Well said, unfortunately that is the truth.

 

[Justice Bao]

smv is not the same thing as atttraktivness

 

[Words2_live_bye]

I'm still pretty below average

 

[Psilocin99]

I'm a 4/10 and relatively NT, if I lived in any other historical period I'd have no problem with finding a partner

 

[JestER]

brutally mogs me. I know i'm ugly because even kids don't want to be near me and I get randomly ridiculed around every corner by complete strangers, all because of fucked up bones

 

[Deleted member 1983]

yeh im going to have to disagree with this one bro, receding hairline, no chin, bad eye area.

im 100% fucking ugly.

 

[TheNEET]

I'm perfectly fucking average and some of my flaws would actually be assets in a sane society, but foids want golem chad orks
oh no, I'm low-T, I'm empathetic, I have soft features -- I want to cooperate with people instead of murdering them, how dare I! I'm worse than Hitler!
oh no, I'm average height, I will have much less bone and spine problems and I need less resources, how terrible!

 

[Michinomiya Hirohit]

Idk bro, males also have very low standards these days.
Saint Hamudi once said that he realized it's over when he saw a bunch of chadlites fighting for a landwhale.

 

[Deleted member 7448]

I'm perfectly fucking average and some of my flaws would actually be assets in a sane society, but foids want golem chad orks
oh no, I'm low-T, I'm empathetic, I have soft features -- I want to cooperate with people instead of murdering them, how dare I! I'm worse than Hitler!
oh no, I'm average height, I will have much less bone and spine problems and I need less resources, how terrible!

Well said mate, well said.

 

[BigMorons]

No, i'm fucking ugly even if standards is low i still incel.

 

[Lebensmüder]

I'm perfectly fucking average and some of my flaws would actually be assets in a sane society, but foids want golem chad orks
oh no, I'm low-T, I'm empathetic, I have soft features -- I want to cooperate with people instead of murdering them, how dare I! I'm worse than Hitler!
oh no, I'm average height, I will have much less bone and spine problems and I need less resources, how terrible!

This tbh.

I'm not ugly, I'm tired of thinking of myself as ugly.

I'm not deformed, my face is symmetrical when it comes to bone structure, except for some minor details like a slight overbite and whatnot. Yeah sure I'm nothing to write home about, but I'm not hideous.

But the standards are too fucking high for males. Tiny little things that don't conform to a female's ideal man add up. We're only ugly cause we don't fit that archetype.

Really, none of my physical flaws should make me ugly, but they do because I don't fit the image of the stereotypical male.

Survival became so easy and comfortable in the latter half of the 20th century that even male looks became hyperinflated, everyone becoming obsessed with looks. The practical sex, the functional gender that never cared about such petty matters, was now judged according to feminine values.

I'm bald. So fucking what? Most males eventually bald. But society got so obsessed with looks that what was once something nobody gave a second thought, suddenly became a big fucking deal. You think peasants or soldiers in the 18th century gave a shit about being bald? Same with all my other fucking flaws. They're not really flaws, they're just not conforming to this hyperinflated obsession with looks in society. So I wear glasses, so fucking what? So I have blemishes on my skin. So my wrists and shoulders are tiny, so what? None of these things should make me ugly, but they do because standards for males have become so fucking rigid and high.

P.S: I find it funny how society thinks the exact opposite, that standards for females are high, which is ridiculous. Any 2/10 fat, hairy woman with an awful personality I've ever seen had a boyfriend.

Same. I say it again: If I was born decades ago, I wouldn't be an incel (like most people here). I would not be a chad, definetely not. But I would also not go through school/university with absolutely no social success whatsoever.

My parents are completely right when they tell me that I am not ugly, I am only short for my generation, have no deformations and some akne scars. Physically speaking there is nothing wrong with me. But foids treat me like I am the worst scum of humanity.

 

[Deleted member 24529]

No. I am ugly. I have a body of a 12 year old boy that never grew muscle or mass wise. Not a tiny dick etc. But no muscles. My face is also 4/10 at best. I am ugly.

 

[Gymcelled]

I am certainly ugly. I'm eggy/jsanza tier ugly. But men like me could still betabuxx a wife 60-70 years ago

 

[Deleted member 7448]

No. I am ugly. I have a body of a 12 year old boy that never grew muscle or mass wise. Not a tiny dick etc. But no muscles. My face is also 4/10 at best. I am ugly.

No, you could say that about me too. I have no muscle, my wrists, shoulders, hands are tiny too. I'm so weak and unatheltic and have been all my life that I was never able to even do a pull-up, even when I went to the gym for 4 months, just never had the strength. Not when I lost weight and was anorexic skinny, nor when I was fat (and still am cause I gave up on being skinny cause it ended up making me look even worse). I don't think that's a necessarily ugly trait, not every male has to be fucking strong, but standards have become so high that every mother fucker needs to go to the gym for some fucking reason.

I FUCKING HATE the obsession with the gym in society. In the 21st century every fucking male needs to go to the gym or be shamed for it, how dare you not have muscles? Unrealistic fucking standards, this is what happens when society is oversexualized and is too obsessed with looks, irrelevant shit becomes so fucking important all of a sudden. Gym should be no more than an afterthought of society, bodybuilders should be looked at as wasters of time like gamers.

 

[Pitar62]

Gigacope thread

 

[Subhuman Orangutan]

The definition of "ugly" is not absolute and constantly changing due to Media Propaganda.

Over a decade ago, any woman who had an ounce of bodyfat was undesirable. Eventually out of nowhere, bodyfat on foids (especially in the buttocks and breast area) is glamorized - Thick, BBW, feeder fetishism etc...

There is a huge demand in body augmentation surgery/plastic surgery and any procedures that enhance: the lips, breasts, buttocks.

Similarly for men the definition of "ugly" in the eyes of foids have increased. You are correct in saying that: "You're not ugly" if you consider things from a foids POV back in pre-1999, but today. You. Me. Everyone on here is an abomination and our dating lives reflect that.

If you are attracted to thick women, not obese, then you have high T.

 

[Hate_my_life]

If you are attracted to thick women, not obese, then you have high T.

Tbh

 

[epillepsy]

"ugly" shouldn't apply to most men; it should mean only the least attractive men.

most noodlewhores would be uglier than me if they were converted to males.

there's nothing worse than seeing arrogance and scorn from ugly foids.
it seems like there should be something that i can do to put them in their place but i have no recourse.
they have too many protectors and there are too many consequences to speaking up.

 

[nystagmuscel]

Idk bro, males also have very low standards these days.
Saint Hamudi once said that he realized it's over when he saw a bunch of chadlites fighting for a landwhale.

 

[MisterMeme]

I'm not ugly, I'm tired of thinking of myself as ugly.

I'm not deformed, my face is symmetrical when it comes to bone structure, except for some minor details like a slight overbite and whatnot. Yeah sure I'm nothing to write home about, but I'm not hideous.

But the standards are too fucking high for males. Tiny little things that don't conform to a female's ideal man add up. We're only ugly cause we don't fit that archetype.

Really, none of my physical flaws should make me ugly, but they do because I don't fit the image of the stereotypical male.

Survival became so easy and comfortable in the latter half of the 20th century that even male looks became hyperinflated, everyone becoming obsessed with looks. The practical sex, the functional gender that never cared about such petty matters, was now judged according to feminine values.

I'm bald. So fucking what? Most males eventually bald. But society got so obsessed with looks that what was once something nobody gave a second thought, suddenly became a big fucking deal. You think peasants or soldiers in the 18th century gave a shit about being bald? Same with all my other fucking flaws. They're not really flaws, they're just not conforming to this hyperinflated obsession with looks in society. So I wear glasses, so fucking what? So I have blemishes on my skin. So my wrists and shoulders are tiny, so what? None of these things should make me ugly, but they do because standards for males have become so fucking rigid and high.

P.S: I find it funny how society thinks the exact opposite, that standards for females are high, which is ridiculous. Any 2/10 fat, hairy woman with an awful personality I've ever seen had a boyfriend.

Gigacope I am objectively hideous and I have it good compared to some users on this forum who are quiet literally 2/10

 

[Hector Barbossa]

I'm not ugly, I'm tired of thinking of myself as ugly.

I'm not deformed, my face is symmetrical when it comes to bone structure, except for some minor details like a slight overbite and whatnot. Yeah sure I'm nothing to write home about, but I'm not hideous.

But the standards are too fucking high for males. Tiny little things that don't conform to a female's ideal man add up. We're only ugly cause we don't fit that archetype.

Really, none of my physical flaws should make me ugly, but they do because I don't fit the image of the stereotypical male.

Survival became so easy and comfortable in the latter half of the 20th century that even male looks became hyperinflated, everyone becoming obsessed with looks. The practical sex, the functional gender that never cared about such petty matters, was now judged according to feminine values.

I'm bald. So fucking what? Most males eventually bald. But society got so obsessed with looks that what was once something nobody gave a second thought, suddenly became a big fucking deal. You think peasants or soldiers in the 18th century gave a shit about being bald? Same with all my other fucking flaws. They're not really flaws, they're just not conforming to this hyperinflated obsession with looks in society. So I wear glasses, so fucking what? So I have blemishes on my skin. So my wrists and shoulders are tiny, so what? None of these things should make me ugly, but they do because standards for males have become so fucking rigid and high.

P.S: I find it funny how society thinks the exact opposite, that standards for females are high, which is ridiculous. Any 2/10 fat, hairy woman with an awful personality I've ever seen had a boyfriend.

I absolutely agree. This year, I've actually somehow miraculously gained a degree of self-esteem in the sense that I know I'm not ugly and that I have a few desirable qualities, even if overall I'm not Chad or even average. But I think that realization has actually caused further anger and demotivation, because I know that I'm not being treated the way that I should be, and that the options available to me are not reflective of my true worth.

I think the strategy of "dating down because it's easier" (related to Juggernaut Law, I think) is what has caused this inflation of female standards and why society is so warped. That's why I'm more reluctant now to bother with any girl who is objectively below me in either looks or intelligence - they're not worth the effort and I don't want to encourage their already inflated standards.

All my options are shitty anyways, though. Either I wait forever for a girl who is my match and be alone/constantly rejected, or I forget it and escortmax while losing money, or I settle for something far below my worth that I'll be forever resentful of because I know I don't deserve it, if I can even find that something in the first place.

 

[ThoughtfulCel]

Not sure how I'd fit on the human scale of attractiveness if I was human.

But im not human so I dunno

 

[RREEEEEEEEE]

No, I'm genuinely ugly. I have what people mockingly call a Jew nose. Ironically enough most of the Jews have a normal nose. I also have bulging eyes with dark circle under my eyes and lots of upper eyelid exposure. I really do have bug eyes. I am hideous.

 

[The Abyss]

The future, 8 foot mega jaw men but with major health problems, all to get some pussy, fisherian runaway lol.

 

[UglyScotsman]

Nope I'm ugly as fuck. Stop the cope.

 

[Speedloader]

Idk man im pretty ugly.

The future, 8 foot mega jaw men but with major health problems, all to get some pussy, fisherian runaway lol.

I'm perfectly fucking average and some of my flaws would actually be assets in a sane society, but foids want golem chad orks
oh no, I'm low-T, I'm empathetic, I have soft features -- I want to cooperate with people instead of murdering them, how dare I! I'm worse than Hitler!
oh no, I'm average height, I will have much less bone and spine problems and I need less resources, how terrible!

 

[Pengwin]

I'm a 4/10 and relatively NT, if I lived in any other historical period I'd have no problem with finding a partner

If you have an active social circle you should try everything you can before ending up here.

 

[zangano1]

I'm ugly as fuck ngl

 

[coldmachinery]

Not a bad sentiment really. Just doesn't apply here.

 

[Neggr]

Idk bro, males also have very low standards these days.
Saint Hamudi once said that he realized it's over when he saw a bunch of chadlites fighting for a landwhale.

 

[FlamingCel]

it's over when he saw a bunch of chadlites fighting for a landwhale.

 

[cvh1991]

I'm not ugly, I'm tired of thinking of myself as ugly.

I'm not deformed, my face is symmetrical when it comes to bone structure, except for some minor details like a slight overbite and whatnot. Yeah sure I'm nothing to write home about, but I'm not hideous.

But the standards are too fucking high for males. Tiny little things that don't conform to a female's ideal man add up. We're only ugly cause we don't fit that archetype.

Really, none of my physical flaws should make me ugly, but they do because I don't fit the image of the stereotypical male.

Survival became so easy and comfortable in the latter half of the 20th century that even male looks became hyperinflated, everyone becoming obsessed with looks. The practical sex, the functional gender that never cared about such petty matters, was now judged according to feminine values.

I'm bald. So fucking what? Most males eventually bald. But society got so obsessed with looks that what was once something nobody gave a second thought, suddenly became a big fucking deal. You think peasants or soldiers in the 18th century gave a shit about being bald? Same with all my other fucking flaws. They're not really flaws, they're just not conforming to this hyperinflated obsession with looks in society. So I wear glasses, so fucking what? So I have blemishes on my skin. So my wrists and shoulders are tiny, so what? None of these things should make me ugly, but they do because standards for males have become so fucking rigid and high.

P.S: I find it funny how society thinks the exact opposite, that standards for females are high, which is ridiculous. Any 2/10 fat, hairy woman with an awful personality I've ever seen had a boyfriend.

Nailed it OP — people always strawmen incels as having too high of standards and being too picky which is ironic BULLSHIT since that’s not what incels claim at all. Ironically that’s exactly what WOMEN do, not men or incels who have to date down. Drives me nuts when normies and women say that shit.

Incels just want to be able to get their looksmatch which isn’t unreasonable at all. Women outright refuse to date their looksmatch (go read the data lurkers this is an objective fact) and ugly men are left virgins who aren’t even able to get landwhales, it’s a joke.

Being born a woman in the west is life on easy mode nowadays — if you want you can study some meaningless drivel in Uni then marry a good looking dude with a good job then and there, pop out a few kids, then coast at home for life as a NEET. Men can’t do that (because we have work and be slaves to support women) — also men are judged more harshly for the same academic and workplace work than women as demonstrated by several recent studies as well — also that working women in their 20s are actually out earning men in the same age group by almost 10 percent (was big on the MRA sub recently which I know y’all hate, but there’s some useful data they present from time to time).

Being male to make it with women now you gotta have everything — money/looks/status/not enough to just be thin/healthy you gotta be steroid ripped and have a huge dig (again lurkers go read the studies, women prefer dicks that are literally top 5 percentile in size). It’s just hopeless for men and a fucking buffet for women — it’s ironic that “equality” actually brought about steep inequality for men in ways that nobody talks about — women are flat out in denial about the truth and believe the opposite (that they’re oppressed) which is why familiarity with the black pill science studies for debate purposes is important I think. Tons of people including men don’t even know.

 

[Deleted member 21219]

Idk man im pretty ugly.

Nah brocel the standards are too damn high.

I'm ugly as fuck ngl

Foids have made you insecure about your looks

Nope I'm ugly as fuck. Stop the cope.

Calm down greycel

 

[Deleted member 7448]

Nailed it OP — people always strawmen incels as having too high of standards and being too picky which is ironic BULLSHIT since that’s not what incels claim at all. Ironically that’s exactly what WOMEN do, not men or incels who have to date down. Drives me nuts when normies and women say that shit.

Incels just want to be able to get their looksmatch which isn’t unreasonable at all. Women outright refuse to date their looksmatch (go read the data lurkers this is an objective fact) and ugly men are left virgins who aren’t even able to get landwhales, it’s a joke.

Being born a woman in the west is life on easy mode nowadays — if you want you can study some meaningless drivel in Uni then marry a good looking dude with a good job then and there, pop out a few kids, then coast at home for life as a NEET. Men can’t do that (because we have work and be slaves to support women) — also men are judged more harshly for the same academic and workplace work than women as demonstrated by several recent studies as well (was big on the MRA sub recently which I know y’all hate, but there’s some useful data they present from time to time).

Very well said mate, apt analysis.

 

[Deleted member 21219]

I am certainly ugly. I'm eggy/jsanza tier ugly. But men like me could still betabuxx a wife 60-70 years ago

Exactly the point. Soyciety is too harsh on men in 2020

No, I'm genuinely ugly. I have what people mockingly call a Jew nose. Ironically enough most of the Jews have a normal nose. I also have bulging eyes with dark circle under my eyes and lots of upper eyelid exposure. I really do have bug eyes. I am hideous.

No youre not.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

No, I'm genuinely ugly. I have what people mockingly call a Jew nose. Ironically enough most of the Jews have a normal nose. I also have bulging eyes with dark circle under my eyes and lots of upper eyelid exposure. I really do have bug eyes. I am hideous.

True, I don't know any Jews with that stereotypical nose.

 

[FinnCel]

Agreed, I'm not handsome. I am definitely below average and even ugly to some extent.
But not too long ago, a guy with my smv could get his looksmatch.
Now it's chad only

 

[sora]

im ugly

 

[Deleted member 6329]

Nah, I'm very ugly.

But yeah the media and women love to project about how high men's standards, but the real ones know.

 

[Chin]

I'm not ugly, I'm tired of thinking of myself as ugly.

I'm not deformed, my face is symmetrical when it comes to bone structure, except for some minor details like a slight overbite and whatnot. Yeah sure I'm nothing to write home about, but I'm not hideous.

But the standards are too fucking high for males. Tiny little things that don't conform to a female's ideal man add up. We're only ugly cause we don't fit that archetype.

Really, none of my physical flaws should make me ugly, but they do because I don't fit the image of the stereotypical male.

Survival became so easy and comfortable in the latter half of the 20th century that even male looks became hyperinflated, everyone becoming obsessed with looks. The practical sex, the functional gender that never cared about such petty matters, was now judged according to feminine values.

I'm bald. So fucking what? Most males eventually bald. But society got so obsessed with looks that what was once something nobody gave a second thought, suddenly became a big fucking deal. You think peasants or soldiers in the 18th century gave a shit about being bald? Same with all my other fucking flaws. They're not really flaws, they're just not conforming to this hyperinflated obsession with looks in society. So I wear glasses, so fucking what? So I have blemishes on my skin. So my wrists and shoulders are tiny, so what? None of these things should make me ugly, but they do because standards for males have become so fucking rigid and high.

P.S: I find it funny how society thinks the exact opposite, that standards for females are high, which is ridiculous. Any 2/10 fat, hairy woman with an awful personality I've ever seen had a boyfriend.

Thanks. That’s the thing I have about r/incelselfies. Foids flood each post saying they aren’t ugly so it must be personality or incels call them fakecels for not being ugly enough. Truth is being not ugly isn’t good enough anymore due to hypergamy. Women only date chad

 

[ChronicPaincel]

High IQ.

 

[unrelentingclownery]

I’m ugly

 

[omnilet]

NAh I'm actually a 3/10