If you’re ethnic/black you shouldn’t care about Hitler

[Pikacel]

He’s a Eurocentric villain who barely did anything to non-whites (aside from Jews and Slavs). In the grand scheme of things, Nazis weren’t any worse than any other genocidal nation state they were just more competent and had access to never seen before technology/logistics.

It’s so cringy to see AAs for example go ‘if Hitler won WW2 I wouldn’t exist xD’ when the US were the ones brutally oppressing and segregating blacks at the time. It’s making Nazis out to be some special villain when everybody else did the same shit. For example slavs and greeks genocided 5 million Muslim civilians decades before (Circassian, Albanian, Turkish) yet nobody talks about it.

Persecution of Muslims during the Ottoman decline - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

So why should I care

If anything Nazis only helped bankrupt colonial powers by waging WW2 and gave many non-whites independence from extractive metropoles.

 

[Vector2800]

I notice lots of ethnics support Hitler. Might just be an autism thing.

 

[Jimb0]

"If Hitler won today I wouldn't exist" damn don't threaten me with a good time, negro!

 

[BPmonk]

Interesting perspective, actually

 

[Pikacel]

I notice lots of ethnics support Hitler. Might just be an autism thing.

They’re probably just doing it for fun. But so many nations have tried to genocide inconvenient cultures/tribes that ‘nation-state’ and ‘genocide’ are basically synonymous yet Nazis are somehow special.

 

[DarkStar]

He’s a Eurocentric villain who barely did anything to non-whites (aside from Jews and Slavs).

Slavs are Whites, and while Ashkenazi are genetically intermediate to Europeans & MENA, some do genuinely look White/Whitish

Not sure why ethnics think xyz group of Europeans aren't "really white" or as if their Nigger-Abo-Bugman ass can decide but ok

In the grand scheme of things, Nazis weren’t any worse than any other genocidal nation state they were just more competent and had access to never seen before technology/logistics.

They were very advanced, part of the reason i'm pro-NS(other than being White) is because of how advanced they were and I believe we would be at least 40-50 years more advanced had they won.

It’s so cringy to see AAs for example go ‘if Hitler won WW2 I wouldn’t exist xD’

Seems to me they're just self-aware

when the US were the ones brutally oppressing and segregating blacks at the time. It’s making Nazis out to be some special villain when everybody else did the same shit. For example slavs and greeks genocided 5 million Muslim civilians decades before (Circassian, Albanian, Turkish) yet nobody talks about it.

Persecution of Muslims during the Ottoman decline - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

>Says Slavs aren't White
>Points out Slavs(also Greeks who you probably don't think of as White) "genociding" Mudslimes as if Ottoman Muslims didn't spend centuries taking Greek & Slavic kids as slaves, occupied the Balkans, and committed atrocities themselves.

Late Ottoman genocides - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Interesting you ignore what the Ottoman Muslims did, as if you think "ethnics" are incapable of genocide, while blaming people who were occupied by them for generations.

If anything Nazis only helped bankrupt colonial powers by waging WW2 and gave many non-whites independence from extractive metropoles.

They literally wanted an alliance with Britain and admired their empire, it was just the bankers who ran Britain opted for war since they knew the Reich & Co. were a threat.

 

[DarkStar]

"If Hitler won today I wouldn't exist" damn don't threaten me with a good time, negro!

 

[4sez]

I hope Hitler comes back from the dead so he can TND TKD & TFD

 

[Trident]

"If Hitler won today I wouldn't exist" damn don't threaten me with a good time, negro!

 

[Pikacel]

Slavs are Whites, and while Ashkenazi are genetically intermediate to Europeans & MENA, some do genuinely look White/Whitish

Not sure why ethnics think xyz group of Europeans aren't "really white" or as if their Nigger-Abo-Bugman ass can decide but ok

This is something whites do all the time “X isn’t white Y isn’t white” “Irish are subhumans”

They were very advanced, part of the reason i'm pro-NS(other than being White) is because of how advanced they were and I believe we would be at least 40-50 years more advanced had they won.

Maybe

Seems to me they're just self-aware

I mean it’s pointless hypotheticals

>Says Slavs aren't White
>Points out Slavs(also Greeks who you probably don't think of as White) "genociding" Mudslimes as if Ottoman Muslims didn't spend centuries taking Greek & Slavic kids as slaves, occupied the Balkans, and committed atrocities themselves.

Why do people whine about devshirme, ‘poor serb boys getting kidnapped and forcibly trained into a… high status respectable job?’ that was a blessing in those times. Way better than being some poor peasant. Even still that doesn’t justify psychotically murdering innocent people centuries later.

White slaves in general mostly got good jobs

Late Ottoman genocides - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Interesting you ignore what the Ottoman Muslims did, as if you think "ethnics" are incapable of genocide, while blaming people who were occupied by them for generations.

Read my post again nigger. Everyone commits genocides, that’s the point.

They literally wanted an alliance with Britain and admired their empire, it was just the bankers who ran Britain opted for war since they knew the Reich & Co. were a threat.

Based bankers I guess?

 

[Lonely Slav]

Why do people whine about devshirme, ‘poor serb boys getting kidnapped and forcibly trained into a… high status respectable job?’ that was a blessing in those times. Way better than being some poor peasant. Even still that doesn’t justify psychotically murdering innocent people centuries later.

White slaves in general mostly got good jobs

Lol okay, so kidnapping and forced assimilation a "blessing" just because a very small handful got rich at a terrible price?

Families lost their children forever. Parents couldn’t choose, kids couldn’t refuse. Most were turned into cannon fodder Janissaries or servants anyways, and FYI, young boys taken into palace service were often subject to pederasty and other forms of disgusting shit as well.

 

[NonNTFailure]

This thread is already a clusterfuck JFL.

I don’t care about Hitler… but I also don’t think he killed 6 million jews.

 

[Hoodpreet]

There are details here and there in your post that are incorrect, which other users above me have already corrected, but other than that I agree with the message of your post. Soyciety pushes this message in the media and education system that the Third Reich had world domination on its mind, but in truth rhetoric about "weltmacht" or "ruling the world" from Reich speakers was never literal. IIRC Hitler even mocked the old Wilhelmine colonies in Africa as useless.

In the context of interwar Germany, "world power" simply meant becoming a rival superpower on par with Britain and France – the two dominant colonial powers of Europe who brutally dominated Germany and stripped it of its colonial possessions following WW1. I'd think it's pretty common knowledge to most people that aspirational/rhetorical statements from politicians hardly ever reflect actual policy ambitions in a literal sense, but insidious actors will push agenda-driven propaganda and dumb soys will of course eat that up

 

[Transcended Trucel]

He’s a Eurocentric villain who barely did anything to non-whites (aside from Jews and Slavs). In the grand scheme of things, Nazis weren’t any worse than any other genocidal nation state they were just more competent and had access to never seen before technology/logistics.

It’s so cringy to see AAs for example go ‘if Hitler won WW2 I wouldn’t exist xD’ when the US were the ones brutally oppressing and segregating blacks at the time. It’s making Nazis out to be some special villain when everybody else did the same shit. For example slavs and greeks genocided 5 million Muslim civilians decades before (Circassian, Albanian, Turkish) yet nobody talks about it.

Persecution of Muslims during the Ottoman decline - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

So why should I care

If anything Nazis only helped bankrupt colonial powers by waging WW2 and gave many non-whites independence from extractive metropoles.

yup this is true. c urries for example many respect him. he tried what was best for his nation even if failed.

 

[Transcended Trucel]

I notice lots of ethnics support Hitler. Might just be an autism thing.

many ethnics actually would preer not to exist. 100% if many of us ethncis woke up as white, we'd be voting reform in UK or similar extreme in other countries. such is how it is.

 

[DarkStar]

This is something whites do all the time “X isn’t white Y isn’t white” “Irish are subhumans”

1. Yes, Whites have looked down on other White groups in history, but they never said they "weren't white" just rather discriminated on the basis of religion or certain ethnicities. English with Irish and Celts, Germanics & Magyars with Slavs, Russians with Ukrainians, North Italians with South Italians, etc.
2. It's mainly your ilk who think that they, can decide who is White and who isn't: I've seen it countless times on this forum & elsewhere online, ethnics claim that "well ackhually Iberians/Italians/Balkans aren't White they're Arab-Berber-Turk mutts" or that Slavs are Mongol mutts or that neither are "really white" because race is all "muh social construct" when reality:

Why do people whine about devshirme, ‘poor serb boys getting kidnapped and forcibly trained into a… high status respectable job?’ that was a blessing in those times. Way better than being some poor peasant. Even still that doesn’t justify psychotically murdering innocent people centuries later.

White slaves in general mostly got good jobs

Yup, classic black mentality of oppression olympics

So basically:

Lol okay, so kidnapping and forced assimilation a "blessing" just because a very small handful got rich at a terrible price?

Families lost their children forever. Parents couldn’t choose, kids couldn’t refuse. Most were turned into cannon fodder Janissaries or servants anyways, and FYI, young boys taken into palace service were often subject to pederasty and other forms of disgusting shit as well.

Removing kids from their home, lowering a population, destroying families and cultures, and also subjecting many of them to being forced into battle and being raped at times isn't "that bad?"


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/TarihiSeyler/comments/1kcbw96/osmanl%C4%B1da_o%C4%9Flanc%C4%B1l%C4%B1k/?tl=en

Homosexuality in the Ottoman Empire on JSTOR

Stephen O. Murray, Homosexuality in the Ottoman Empire, Historical Reflections / Réflexions Historiques, Vol. 33, No. 1, Eighteenth-Century Homosexuality in Global Perspective (Spring 2007), pp. 101-116

www.jstor.org

The white eunuchs were slaves from the Balkans or the Caucasus, either purchased in the slave markets or taken as boys from Christian families in the Balkans who were unable to pay the jizya tax. They served the recruits at the Palace School and were from 1582 prohibited from entering the Harem. An important figure in the Ottoman court was the Chief Black Eunuch (Kızlar Ağası or Darüssaade Ağası). In control of both the harem and a net of spies among the black eunuchs, the Chief Eunuch was involved in almost every palace intrigue and thereby could gain power over either the sultan or one of his viziers, ministers, or other court officials

Slavery in the Ottoman Empire - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Yeah, not so bad

Also nowadays, this is overlooked in favor of "muh opressed kangz n sheit"

"the little-known fact that Eastern Europe was the largest source of slaves in the early modern world after West Africa"

It's honestly unnerving how much and how quickly can history be forgotten:shock:. The upshot of these activities is the little-known fact that Eastern Europe was the largest source of slaves in the early modern world after West Africa (Khodarkovsky 2002, 22). Our understanding of how...

incels.is

@The Notorious SLAV

Read my post again nigger. Everyone commits genocides, that’s the point.

Well it's the fact you ignored the Ottomans actions while focusing on the actions of the people they literally subjugated, thought ethnoids were all about retribution and fighting against those who oppressed or enslaved them?

Based bankers I guess?

So you support Jews then? Yeah makes sense

 

[The Notorious SLAV]

He’s a Eurocentric villain who barely did anything to non-whites (aside from Jews and Slavs).

Only because they couldn't reach them.

>Says Slavs aren't White
>Points out Slavs(also Greeks who you probably don't think of as White) "genociding" Mudslimes as if Ottoman Muslims didn't spend centuries taking Greek & Slavic kids as slaves, occupied the Balkans, and committed atrocities themselves.

Late Ottoman genocides - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Interesting you ignore what the Ottoman Muslims did, as if you think "ethnics" are incapable of genocide, while blaming people who were occupied by them for generations.

Jealousy maybe? By and large, ethnics weren't really able to get back at the people who dominated them in any real way.

Why do people whine about devshirme, ‘poor serb boys getting kidnapped and forcibly trained into a… high status respectable job?’

Cool. Now remind me, what happened to all the other enslaved conquered people who weren't young boys at the time and weren't lucky enough to become high-status janissaries?

 

[Pikacel]

1. Yes, Whites have looked down on other White groups in history, but they never said they "weren't white" just rather discriminated on the basis of religion or certain ethnicities. English with Irish and Celts, Germanics & Magyars with Slavs, Russians with Ukrainians, North Italians with South Italians, etc.
2. It's mainly your ilk who think that they, can decide who is White and who isn't: I've seen it countless times on this forum & elsewhere online, ethnics claim that "well ackhually Iberians/Italians/Balkans aren't White they're Arab-Berber-Turk mutts" or that Slavs are Mongol mutts or that neither are "really white" because race is all "muh social construct" when reality:

View attachment 1565295

Yup, classic black mentality of oppression olympics

So basically:

Removing kids from their home, lowering a population, destroying families and cultures, and also subjecting many of them to being forced into battle and being raped at times isn't "that bad?"


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/TarihiSeyler/comments/1kcbw96/osmanl%C4%B1da_o%C4%9Flanc%C4%B1l%C4%B1k/?tl=en

Homosexuality in the Ottoman Empire on JSTOR

Stephen O. Murray, Homosexuality in the Ottoman Empire, Historical Reflections / Réflexions Historiques, Vol. 33, No. 1, Eighteenth-Century Homosexuality in Global Perspective (Spring 2007), pp. 101-116

www.jstor.org

Slavery in the Ottoman Empire - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Yeah, not so bad

Also nowadays, this is overlooked in favor of "muh opressed kangz n sheit"

"the little-known fact that Eastern Europe was the largest source of slaves in the early modern world after West Africa"

It's honestly unnerving how much and how quickly can history be forgotten:shock:. The upshot of these activities is the little-known fact that Eastern Europe was the largest source of slaves in the early modern world after West Africa (Khodarkovsky 2002, 22). Our understanding of how...

incels.is

@The Notorious SLAV

Well it's the fact you ignored the Ottomans actions while focusing on the actions of the people they literally subjugated, thought ethnoids were all about retribution and fighting against those who oppressed or enslaved them?

So you support Jews then? Yeah makes sense

You’re just doing derailing and whataboutism.

BUT I SEE ETHNICS DO THIS AND THIS

I bring up an example of a genocide people don’t really talk about:

BUT ETHNIC MOSLEMS (??? there were slavs and greeks on both sides) Did X

How is that relevant? The Ottomans committed atrocities as well. If your ethnicity was targeted by them you have every right to resent them.

And you’re making strawmen accusing me of saying ‘ethnics can’t commit genocide’

What’s the point of this discussion it’s all based on strawmen and ‘what about X’

I cba

 

[D. B. Gooner]

Backing a politician is like backing a football team

 

[Uncle Death]

"If Hitler won today I wouldn't exist" damn don't threaten me with a good time, negro!

Not even I am this self-hating. Get a fucking grip you pathetic cuck.

 

[Uncle Death]

Reading this thread makes my blood boil tbh, I am going to get a fucking stroke being in this shitshow of a forum.

 

[Uncle Death]

Hating yourself is the stupidest shit you could do. If you hate your own race, doesn’t mean you should hate yourself as YOU individually.


Unleash the judgement to your own kind by your own hand, don’t let other race cuck you in that pursuit.

 

[Uncle Death]

I am too angry and narcissistic to hate my own self, I rather take it on others as it is the ultimate act of egoism because if you have a knife, why unleash it to your hand when you can strike down the world with it?

 

[Caichan]

I am too angry and narcissistic to hate my own self, I rather take it on others

what race are you? i hate self hating ethnics its not as big of an issue with my race but i see it a lot with south americans and indians, i am black

 

[Uncle Death]

what race are you? i hate self hating ethnics its not as big of an issue with my race but i see it a lot with south americans and indians, i am black

I am asian

 

[Caichan]

I am asian

it’s a big problem with asians too a lot of them love white people it’s kinda cucked

 

[ZX888]

He’s a Eurocentric villain who barely did anything to non-whites (aside from Jews and Slavs). In the grand scheme of things, Nazis weren’t any worse than any other genocidal nation state they were just more competent and had access to never seen before technology/logistics.

It’s so cringy to see AAs for example go ‘if Hitler won WW2 I wouldn’t exist xD’ when the US were the ones brutally oppressing and segregating blacks at the time. It’s making Nazis out to be some special villain when everybody else did the same shit. For example slavs and greeks genocided 5 million Muslim civilians decades before (Circassian, Albanian, Turkish) yet nobody talks about it.

Persecution of Muslims during the Ottoman decline - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

So why should I care

If anything Nazis only helped bankrupt colonial powers by waging WW2 and gave many non-whites independence from extractive metropoles.

 

[brenko incelenko]

I don't care about hitler

 

[Pikacel]

Reading this thread makes my blood boil tbh, I am going to get a fucking stroke being in this shitshow of a forum.

I’m not supporting hitler bhai

xd

 

[Rapemaxxer]

Only because they couldn't reach them.

The Nazis had no intention of reaching them. Eastern Europe was enough living space for the Germanics in Hitler's eye (Lebensraum). That's why he waged war on and tried to displace the Slavs. The Japanese could have had Asia and rule it as they deigned for all he cared.

It makes sense when you think about it. Why would Hitler have any grievances with ethnics who had no historical vendettas with his own people?

 

[Lego Island 2]

I notice lots of ethnics support Hitler. Might just be an autism thing.

They fell for the honorary white meme

 

[unhingedsamsung]

I notice lots of ethnics support Hitler. Might just be an autism thing.

 

[Lonely Slav]

Also nowadays, this is overlooked in favor of "muh opressed kangz n sheit"

You would reckon that it would at least halfway fit the approved "white = oppressor only" storyline and get a little more attention due to many Janissaries, Grand Viziers, governors, and even mothers of sultans being Balkan-born (white) people, all of which were deeply woven into the empire’s administration/dynasty, but I guess not.

 

[Jimb0]

Not even I am this self-hating. Get a fucking grip you pathetic cuck.

Needs better reading comprehension skills award

 

[Uncle Death]

Needs better reading comprehension skills award

Do it to your fucking self then.

 

[Jimb0]

Do it to your fucking self then.

Don't even know what that means, nigger loving cuck can't even write a basic sentence lol

 

[Uncle Death]

Don't even know what that means, nigger loving cuck can't even write a basic sentence lol

It's like when people say "I wish my mother abort me" type of stuff. Even in suicidal- murder ideation or possibility of life cut short earlier, I rather have a battle against a force which is antagonistic to me than willingly ask for my own death at the hand of other people. Like a baby crawling out of his mother womb against river of blood which attempt to drown me in it and despite all odds, that is the first battle of life which I won.

I wish I died rather than crawling to life, but I would not let unseen force decide my fate. I rather die violently drowning than getting aborted or never had chances of even coming to life.

 

[DarkStar]

You would reckon that it would at least halfway fit the approved "white = oppressor only" storyline and get a little more attention due to many Janissaries, Grand Viziers, governors, and even mothers of sultans being Balkan-born (white) people, all of which were deeply woven into the empire’s administration/dynasty, but I guess not.

Yup. This exposes the whole "ethnic" narrative of "xyz aren't white because xyz other whites were mean to them" and "you're ethnic like we iz cuz" like that @Caichan guy was going on about

>"Slavz are nigz of Europe just like we iz and oprezzed"
>"THEY WERE TRETAED WELL BY OTTOMANZ DESPITE PEDSASTRY AND STILL BEING TAKEN FROM HOME"

 

[DarkStar]

Only because they couldn't reach them.

The Nazis had no intention of reaching them. Eastern Europe was enough living space for the Germanics in Hitler's eye (Lebensraum). That's why he waged war on and tried to displace the Slavs. The Japanese could have had Asia and rule it as they deigned for all he cared.

It makes sense when you think about it. Why would Hitler have any grievances with ethnics who had no historical vendettas with his own people?

The concept of Lebensraum has been disproven


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX8USPwWi1Q


And also, Hitler & most of the NSDAP hated most Non-White races, he was even wary of the Japanese and believed they would likely "need to go" at some point

And if this happened:

After 1933, under Nazi racial theories, Afro-Germans deemed to be Rheinlandbastarde were persecuted. They were rounded up in a campaign of compulsory sterilization.[1]

Why do you think they never would have done the same to the enitrity of Africa had they won?

Shame the Nazis didn't win though, a world without Apefricans or Mutts would be nice indeed

Jealousy maybe?

Because most of their brains aren't capable of thinking in nuance, even on here sadly

Cool. Now remind me, what happened to all the other enslaved conquered people who weren't young boys at the time and weren't lucky enough to become high-status janissaries?

Just proves what I said here:

Yup. This exposes the whole "ethnic" narrative of "xyz aren't white because xyz other whites were mean to them" and "you're ethnic like we iz cuz" like that @Caichan guy was going on about

>"Slavz are nigz of Europe just like we iz and oprezzed"
>"THEY WERE TRETAED WELL BY OTTOMANZ DESPITE PEDSASTRY AND STILL BEING TAKEN FROM HOME"

it's in Nigs nature to want to cry about oppression when it suites them while dismissing others, it's because they're low-trust primitive humanoids who rely on others for everything; hence why Chy-na is de-facto colonizing Africa

 

[DarkStar]

You’re just doing derailing and whataboutism.

BUT I SEE ETHNICS DO THIS AND THIS

I bring up an example of a genocide people don’t really talk about:

BUT ETHNIC MOSLEMS (??? there were slavs and greeks on both sides) Did X

How is that relevant? The Ottomans committed atrocities as well. If your ethnicity was targeted by them you have every right to resent them.

And you’re making strawmen accusing me of saying ‘ethnics can’t commit genocide’

What’s the point of this discussion it’s all based on strawmen and ‘what about X’

I cba

I wasn't doing a "whataboutism" mango I was just pointing out how the Turks more or less caused those genocides against them

And fyi, it did seem as if you were excusing the actions of ethnics when i mentioned the janissary system and taking of Balkan kids, many of whom were subject to shitskin ethnic pederasty as I showed

And also, it's mainly ethnics who make those "slavs/meds/xyz other group aren't white" threads/comments on here and in general, in the past all Europeans were seen as White just lower-tier of it- it's called history buddy read it.

 

[The Notorious SLAV]

The Nazis had no intention of reaching them. Eastern Europe was enough living space for the Germanics in Hitler's eye (Lebensraum). That's why he waged war on and tried to displace the Slavs. The Japanese could have had Asia and rule it as they deigned for all he cared.

It makes sense when you think about it. Why would Hitler have any grievances with ethnics who had no historical vendettas with his own people?

The concept of Lebensraum has been disproven


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX8USPwWi1Q

And also, Hitler & most of the NSDAP hated most Non-White races, he was even wary of the Japanese and believed they would likely "need to go" at some point

And if this happened:

Why do you think they never would have done the same to the enitrity of Africa had they won?

Shame the Nazis didn't win though, a world without Apefricans or Mutts would be nice indeed

Ultimately, we can only guess, as Nazi Germany was still constrained by its geography to be focused on Europe. Still, one look at their beliefs is enough to see that, had they won, they would've been far from some saviour of ethnics when they would start coming into contact with them, whether expanding for resources or for other reasons.

 

[Rapemaxxer]

The concept of Lebensraum has been disproven


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX8USPwWi1Q

This video doesn't "disprove" shit. It suggests that Operation Barbarossa was a pre-emptive campaign which, even if it was, does not explain away why Hitler systematically displaced and outright exterminated millions of Slavs and resettle the areas with Germans.

he was even wary of the Japanese and believed they would likely "need to go" at some point

Tales. If anything, he might have been suspicious of Japanese influence and the ramifications it might have carried in a potential post-Axis victory world, but it wasn't along racial lines. There's literally zero proof and zero logic behind the retarded assumption that Hitler wanted to take over the entire world, including Asia. It's simply not feasible.

Why do you think they never would have done the same to the enitrity of Africa had they won?

Because it's economically retarded for them to carry out mass genocide of an entire continent for absolutely no reason? What kind of question is this? Eliminating niggers in the German homeland is another story. If they are permanently ensconced in apefrica, however, then there is no question of race-mixing with Germanics and hence no incentive of carrying out TND.

 

[Rapemaxxer]

Still, one look at their beliefs is enough to see that, had they won, they would've been far from some saviour of ethnics when they would start coming into contact with them, whether expanding for resources or for other reasons.

Had they won, they would have left Asia to the Japanese and Europe for themselves. I expect they would have converted Apefrica into some kind of imperial fountain for resources but I doubt they would have mass genocided a race as numerous as niggers. They would be second class citizens sure but outright TND is just impractical.

 

[The Notorious SLAV]

Because it's economically retarded for them to carry out mass genocide of an entire continent for absolutely no reason? What kind of question is this?

I mean, they were already doing exactly that by invading the USSR, which was a continent-sized country, and, as you say, planning to exterminate a good portion of its population. In fact, that was even more so, as USSR's population at that time was even slightly higher than Subsaharan Africa's, and its people were much more advanced and better-armed than Africans. After defeating the USSR and having no rivals in Europe, why would they, an explicitly Germanic-supremacist polity, not invade Africa for its resources and even more living space?

If I remember right, the settler couples in the conquered Soviet territories were supposed to have seven children on average. That would very quickly shrink their conquered lebensraum, and drive another wave of expansion, if that was indeed the sole reason for their eastward expansion.

Eliminating niggers in the German homeland is another story. If they are permanently ensconced in apefrica, however, then there is no question of race-mixing with Germanics and hence no incentive of carrying out TND.

Which is assuming that they would be much friendlier to Africans and other ethnics than any other European empire with transcontinental capabilities had been. Really, you're just putting way too much weight on what their goals were in a specific time frame, and assuming they wouldn't change and would be something utterly set in stone for them. During the war, they were a European country, surrounded by other European countries, expanding into and invading other European countries and figuring out how they wanted to remake Europe. Had they won, then in 1950s and 1960s they would be a continental empire hungry for resources for its surging population, bordering an array of non-European countries. The idea that Nazis in that hypothetical timeline would just sit in place and be content because decades ago they've accomplished what they wanted when they had utterly different problems is quite unlikely.

Had they won, they would have left Asia to the Japanese and Europe for themselves.

Which, again, is presuming that they wouldn't want to expand again. That I doubt for the reasons I've mentioned above, whether the eventual need for more living space, which would come very quickly if their planned fertility rates among settlers in Eastern territories became a reality, or the same reasons why other Western Europeans have colonized basically the entire world before the Germans even unified. Resources and territory.

I expect they would have converted Apefrica into some kind of imperial fountain for resources but I doubt they would have mass genocided a race as numerous as niggers. They would be second class citizens sure but outright TND is just impractical.

That's the thing, it wasn't at the time. If they wanted to exterminate a good portion of the 170 million plus Soviets, I don't see what problems they'd have doing so with 170 million Subsaharans.

 

[DarkStar]

You’re just doing derailing and whataboutism.

BUT I SEE ETHNICS DO THIS AND THIS

I bring up an example of a genocide people don’t really talk about:

BUT ETHNIC MOSLEMS (??? there were slavs and greeks on both sides) Did X

How is that relevant? The Ottomans committed atrocities as well. If your ethnicity was targeted by them you have every right to resent them.

And you’re making strawmen accusing me of saying ‘ethnics can’t commit genocide’

What’s the point of this discussion it’s all based on strawmen and ‘what about X’

I cba

forgive me for just wanting to correct your inaccuracies on everything, from Slavs alleged Whiteness, all the way to the hypocrisy of you shitting on Slavs & Meds for genociding Turks & Muslims despite what they did to them. Also, you’re the one who chimped out here when I was just trying to discuss and offer a different viewpoint on this

I swear this forum is fucking incapable of even working as an actual discussion forum at all

 

[Caichan]

Yup. This exposes the whole "ethnic" narrative of "xyz aren't white because xyz other whites were mean to them" and "you're ethnic like we iz cuz" like that @Caichan guy was going on about

>"Slavz are nigz of Europe just like we iz and oprezzed"
>"THEY WERE TRETAED WELL BY OTTOMANZ DESPITE PEDSASTRY AND STILL BEING TAKEN FROM HOME"

its not that deep murkovski, not my fault you get cucked by west and north europeans

 

[Rapemaxxer]

I mean, they were already doing exactly that by invading the USSR, which was a continent-sized country, and, as you say, planning to exterminate a good portion of its population. In fact, that was even more so, as USSR's population at that time was even slightly higher than Subsaharan Africa's, and its people were much more advanced and better-armed than Africans. After defeating the USSR and having no rivals in Europe, why would they, an explicitly Germanic-supremacist polity, not invade Africa for its resources and even more living space?

If I remember right, the settler couples in the conquered Soviet territories were supposed to have seven children on average. That would very quickly shrink their conquered lebensraum, and drive another wave of expansion, if that was indeed the sole reason for their eastward expansion.


Which is assuming that they would be much friendlier to Africans and other ethnics than any other European empire with transcontinental capabilities had been. Really, you're just putting way too much weight on what their goals were in a specific time frame, and assuming they wouldn't change and would be something utterly set in stone for them. During the war, they were a European country, surrounded by other European countries, expanding into and invading other European countries and figuring out how they wanted to remake Europe. Had they won, then in 1950s and 1960s they would be a continental empire hungry for resources for its surging population, bordering an array of non-European countries. The idea that Nazis in that hypothetical timeline would just sit in place and be content because decades ago they've accomplished what they wanted when they had utterly different problems is quite unlikely.


Which, again, is presuming that they wouldn't want to expand again. That I doubt for the reasons I've mentioned above, whether the eventual need for more living space, which would come very quickly if their planned fertility rates among settlers in Eastern territories became a reality, or the same reasons why other Western Europeans have colonized basically the entire world before the Germans even unified. Resources and territory.


That's the thing, it wasn't at the time. If they wanted to exterminate a good portion of the 170 million plus Soviets, I don't see what problems they'd have doing so with 170 million Subsaharans.

They didn't even eradicate the slavs, they mainly just attempted to deport them beyond the Urals, and even in that they failed.

Also assuming they had won, the entirety of Europe would have been more than enough living space for the Germanics, a race naturally inclined towards lower birth rates. There's really no reason to ship off natives in droves to replace some foreign peoples in some foreign continent. It's simply more convenient to establish colonies there and exploit the afro natives for cheap labour. But I see your point. German ambition was bound to expand in the decades following an Axis victory. Still I doubt they would have picked a war with Japan, which in itself would have been established as the master of Asia by this time had they won.

Its difficult to ascertain what Hitler might have done had he lived long enough. Perhaps the Axis would have exterminated niggers from North Africa to make way for Mussolini's neo-Roman Imperium, which was his explicit project but eh. Italy did mistreat niggers in colonies in North Africa and Ethiopia but mass genocide was never on Mussolini's cards. It was only after the alliance with Hitler that he started cracking down on jews and adopting an explicitly racial rhetoric. Hitler himself was largely uninterested in Africa (he famously dismissed former German colonies in Africa as useless and expressed no interest nor plans of re-establishing them; his imperial ambitions were firmly set closer home in Europe) although that might have changed with time had the Axis emerged victorious in WW2.

 

[Uncle Death]

I mean, they were already doing exactly that by invading the USSR, which was a continent-sized country, and, as you say, planning to exterminate a good portion of its population. In fact, that was even more so, as USSR's population at that time was even slightly higher than Subsaharan Africa's, and its people were much more advanced and better-armed than Africans. After defeating the USSR and having no rivals in Europe, why would they, an explicitly Germanic-supremacist polity, not invade Africa for its resources and even more living space?

If I remember right, the settler couples in the conquered Soviet territories were supposed to have seven children on average. That would very quickly shrink their conquered lebensraum, and drive another wave of expansion, if that was indeed the sole reason for their eastward expansion.


Which is assuming that they would be much friendlier to Africans and other ethnics than any other European empire with transcontinental capabilities had been. Really, you're just putting way too much weight on what their goals were in a specific time frame, and assuming they wouldn't change and would be something utterly set in stone for them. During the war, they were a European country, surrounded by other European countries, expanding into and invading other European countries and figuring out how they wanted to remake Europe. Had they won, then in 1950s and 1960s they would be a continental empire hungry for resources for its surging population, bordering an array of non-European countries. The idea that Nazis in that hypothetical timeline would just sit in place and be content because decades ago they've accomplished what they wanted when they had utterly different problems is quite unlikely.


Which, again, is presuming that they wouldn't want to expand again. That I doubt for the reasons I've mentioned above, whether the eventual need for more living space, which would come very quickly if their planned fertility rates among settlers in Eastern territories became a reality, or the same reasons why other Western Europeans have colonized basically the entire world before the Germans even unified. Resources and territory.


That's the thing, it wasn't at the time. If they wanted to exterminate a good portion of the 170 million plus Soviets, I don't see what problems they'd have doing so with 170 million Subsaharans.

you’re slav right or is it mean to be ironic? Not a political question, I am taking a break from politic, just curious.

 

[Uncle Death]

forgive me for just wanting to correct your inaccuracies on everything, from Slavs alleged Whiteness, all the way to the hypocrisy of you shitting on Slavs & Meds for genociding Turks & Muslims despite what they did to them. Also, you’re the one who chimped out here when I was just trying to discuss and offer a different viewpoint on this

I swear this forum is fucking incapable of even working as an actual discussion forum at all

All race genocide and enslave one another, even whites toward their own. Basic human nature tbh, I myself am not a fan of victim mentality. I have bigger problems in my life than caring about getting colonized some hundred years ago.

 

[Uncle Death]

Honestly seeing and reading what Americans white did to Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam during the Vietnam war really questions my belief at this point whether I should care about what’s happening in the west. Even whites in there do nothing at all or worse supporting their own kind demise to fulfill their selfish ego, I just don’t know tbh.

Maybe getting a fever for this past 5 days irk my thinking a bit.