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A common argument in favor or prostitutes is that they are 'honest' in their interactions. That is, they are upfront about what they want while gold diggers will trick you into thinking they love you. However, this argument fails for several reasons.

1. Prostitutes often say "hey baby", on the texts before they meet up, and pretend they are into you. They will act sweet to you even though they think you're genetic shit. They even give you the "girlfriend experience". This is them giving you 'validation', that many incels crave.

2. Prostitutes are ruthless scammers. This should be self-explanatory but you can read many stories about how dudes pay money via credit card to an escort and then she never shows up.

3. There is something known as explicit, and implicit. This is where the "borderline autistic and/or naive" part comes into play. Just because a hooker doesn't implicitly say she is with you for your money, doesn't mean it isn't implied. It's the same with prostitutes, and you know this. She may not explictly say she is only with you for your money, but by examining your interaction with her, its clear she is only there with you for your money. The only difference is that you don't explicitly hand cash over to a gold digger, usually you would show off your wealth (car, house, maybe nice clothes), and take her to a fancy restaurant, and through these interactions you entice her into sex. If she is acting like she likes you and wants to be with you, well technically she isn't lying. She does want to be with you, for what you would provide her, this is implicit. Having the need to have people "spell it out" for you, is a sign of low social IQ, which is borderline autistic and/or naive.
 
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last i looked at an escort site the escorts had simps writing reviews for them, and the whore would thank the simps for 5-star reviews with a "thank u bby
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>ywn have a woman genuinely affirm you lovingly and your only chance is an escort who will say it because you're paying her
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Idc about neither of them tbh :smonk:
 
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No woman is fucking honest or any shit like that. when people get that in their head, they will understand much more about life and female nature
 
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A common argument in favor or prostitutes is that they are 'honest' in their interactions. That is, they are upfront about what they want while gold diggers will trick you into thinking they love you. However, this argument fails for several reasons.

1. Prostitutes often say "hey baby", on the texts before they meet up, and pretend they are into you. They will act sweet to you even though they think you're genetic shit. They even give you the "girlfriend experience". This is them giving you 'validation', that many incels crave.

2. Prostitutes are ruthless scammers. This should be self-explanatory but you can read many stories about how dudes pay money via credit card to an escort and then she never shows up.

3. There is something known as explicit, and implicit. This is where the "borderline autistic and/or naive" part comes into play. Just because a hooker doesn't implicitly say she is with you for your money, doesn't mean it isn't implied. It's the same with prostitutes, and you know this. She may not explictly say she is only with you for your money, but by examining your interaction with her, its clear she is only there with you for your money. The only difference is that you don't explicitly hand cash over to a gold digger, usually you would show off your wealth (car, house, maybe nice clothes), and take her to a fancy restaurant, and through these interactions you entice her into sex. If she is acting like she likes you and wants to be with you, well technically she isn't lying. She does want to be with you, for what you would provide her, this is implicit. Having the need to have people "spell it out" for you, is a sign of low social IQ, which is borderline autistic and/or naive.
Going with a hooker is like playing Call of Duty. You know you are not a special ops guy, yet you enjoy yourself because you kinda think you are, for a short while. It is called "suspension of disbelief"

Hookers are honest in the same way as vidya editors are honest. They take a moderate amount of money (in comparison with gold diggers) in exchange for a moment of suspension of disbelief.

Regarding the scam part, that is related to the specific US environment. In Europe, where prostitution is fully legal, there are much fewer instances of these. I have gone with dozens of escorts in my life (in London and Dubai) and I have never been scammed.
 
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No woman is fucking honest or any shit like that. when people get that in their head, they will understand much more about life and female nature

I wouldn't consider anyone absolutely honest or dishonest, it always comes in degrees.
 
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Escorts are more honest than gold diggers because the nature of their "service" is already known for you, she and you know you are there just to satisfy your fetish (feet) or to get sex while she lets you do it for the payment, the "teasing" of her is a way of trying to make you enjoy it more so you become a constant client, while the gold digger can trick you into actually believing she likes you if she is good at it
 
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Escorts are more honest than gold diggers because the nature of their "service" is already known for you, she and you know you are there just to satisfy your fetish (feet) or to get sex while she lets you do it for the payment, the "teasing" of her is a way of trying to make you enjoy it more so you become a constant client, while the gold digger can trick you into actually believing she likes you if she is good at it
both are just as bad as i mentioned above, but if i was to choose id say at least prostitutes tell/ show it how it is
 
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all bitches are like that
 
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Going with a hooker is like playing Call of Duty. You know you are not a special ops guy, yet you enjoy yourself because you kinda think you are, for a short while. It is called "suspension of disbelief"

Hookers are honest in the same way as vidya editors are honest. They take a moderate amount of money (in comparison with gold diggers) in exchange for a moment of suspension of disbelief.

Regarding the scam part, that is related to the specific US environment. In Europe, where prostitution is fully legal, there are much fewer instances of these. I have gone with dozens of escorts in my life (in London and Dubai) and I have never been scammed.
Nope, hookers are enjoyable because you get to have sex with an actual woman rather than masturbating. I personally don't care about the "gf experience" as long as I get what I want.

Scams can happen in many places, not just the USA. I suppose your places were decent to evade scams but do all places have this? @ppecel is an expert escortcel, I suppose maybe he can give imput into the scamming aspect.

I will also tag @BlkPillPres for his opinion on escorts and their 'honesty' (or really the lack thereof), (lmao at people defending whores for muh honesty on this forum)
 
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Nope, hookers are enjoyable because you get to have sex with an actual woman rather than masturbating. I personally don't care about the "gf experience" as long as I get what I want.

Scams can happen in many places, not just the USA. I suppose your places were decent to evade scams but do all places have this? @ppecel is an expert escortcel, I suppose maybe he can give imput into the scamming aspect.

I will also tag @BlkPillPres for his opinion on escorts and their 'honesty' (or really the lack thereof), (lmao at people defending whores for muh honesty on this forum)
@CCPcel see above, your name change is confusing lol
 
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They're still more honest than gold diggers.

Can't blame the non-scammers for what the scammers do. Only a retard would pay a whore a deposit before the actual meeting. Literally a non-issue with a reputable agency.
 
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They're still more honest than gold diggers.

Can't blame the non-scammers for what the scammers do. Only a retard would pay a whore a deposit before the actual meeting. Literally a non-issue with a reputable agency.
How are they more honest? Both are clearly with you just for your money. There;s a reason the term gold digger exists.
 
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How are they more honest? Both are clearly with you just for your money. There;s a reason the term gold digger exists.
The former explicitly tells you that they're with you for your money and sets out terms and conditions -- the exact amount of you're paying, the exact time and place of the booking, the services that they do and don't offer -- et cetera. Gold diggers won't, because they see themselves as being above escorts.
 
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I think Tiger is arguing that they should be equally obvious and if you don't recognize a gold digger then you're low IQ or something.

But gold digging comes in varying degrees of obviousness, we can show some empathy to their victims.
 
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Nope, hookers are enjoyable because you get to have sex with an actual woman rather than masturbating. I personally don't care about the "gf experience" as long as I get what I want.
Sure. I don't particularly care for that either. What I am just saying is that it is a "product", like a video game, which does not fool the customer. In that sense, it is honest.

Scams can happen in many places, not just the USA. I suppose your places were decent to evade scams but do all places have this? @ppecel is an expert escortcel, I suppose maybe he can give imput into the scamming aspect.
It is directly related to the degree of legality. The more legal it is, the less scams you have. The best areas I know of are Europe and Japan, where almost no scams ever happen. In both cases, the customer pays upfront but only after seeing the girl in the flesh. If you don't like what you see, you can leave.

In highly regulated places like Dubai or Singapore it is ok too. In the US, because of the shady/illegal nature of the trade, scams seems to happen. But I never have tried escortcelling in the US or Canada so I am not sure. In Latam also, things seem to be pretty shady (because everything in Latam is shady?)

In SEA it is a mixed bag. In Thailand, I went to a couple of upscale brothels where things were completely above board. In the shadier tourist ripoff areas like soi-cowboy, etc, things are not outright scams but are pretty bad nonetheless. In Cambodia/Vietnam, things are like in Thailand, just seedier.

So still not convinced that hookers are more honest than gold diggers?

In one case (hookers), you have a well defined product and a clear price. In the other, you have neither and only open-ended and much higher expense.

To me, it is quite clear which one is honest and which one isn't
 
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The former explicitly tells you that they're with you for your money and sets out terms and conditions -- the exact amount of you're paying, the exact time and place of the booking, the services that they do and don't offer -- et cetera. Gold diggers won't, because they see themselves as being above escorts.
Having the need to have people "spell it out" for you, is a sign of low social IQ, which is borderline autistic and/or naive.
 
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So why conduct any sort of financial transaction -- e.g. buying car insurance or getting a mortgage -- with written language and terms and conditions? Having stuff spelled out ensures honesty. That's the point of spelling stuff out.

This (esp. points 1 and 2 :feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:) reads like someone has never actually bought sex or attracted a gold digger but considers himself an authoritative source on the topic anyone.
 
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So why conduct any sort of financial transaction -- e.g. buying car insurance or getting a mortgage -- with written language and terms and conditions? Having stuff spelled out ensures honesty. That's the point of spelling stuff out.

This (esp. points 1 and 2 :feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:) reads like someone has never actually bought sex or attracted a gold digger but considers himself an authoritative source on the topic anyone.
a gold digger is a social arrangement, not a financial tansaction
 
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it literally is though. putting some :feelskek: at the end doesnt mean you're right
It's not mutually exclusive. It's a social arrangement that also is a financial transaction, albeit an indirect one.
 
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It's not mutually exclusive. It's a social arrangement that also is a financial transaction, albeit an indirect one.
If you throw an expensive party an invite tons of guests, even ones you barely know or don't know at all, is that not a social arrangement and financial transaction together, albeit an indirect one, by your logic?

If its indirect then there isn't gonna be something spelled out. Thats what implicit means. Its common sense to know these things, only delusional people don't understand these implicit things.
 
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. Prostitutes often say "hey baby", on the texts before they meet up, and pretend they are into you. They will act sweet to you even though they think you're genetic shit. They even give you the "girlfriend experience". This is them giving you 'validation', that many incels crave.
Gold diggers do the same shit?
2. Prostitutes are ruthless scammers. This should be self-explanatory but you can read many stories about how dudes pay money via credit card to an escort and then she never shows up.
Don't pay up front
Research prices beforehand so that you won't get scammed out of obscene amounts
3. There is something known as explicit, and implicit. This is where the "borderline autistic and/or naive" part comes into play. Just because a hooker doesn't implicitly say she is with you for your money, doesn't mean it isn't implied. It's the same with prostitutes, and you know this. She may not explictly say she is only with you for your money, but by examining your interaction with her, its clear she is only there with you for your money. The only difference is that you don't explicitly hand cash over to a gold digger, usually you would show off your wealth (car, house, maybe nice clothes), and take her to a fancy restaurant, and through these interactions you entice her into sex. If she is acting like she likes you and wants to be with you, well technically she isn't lying. She does want to be with you, for what you would provide her, this is implicit. Having the need to have people "spell it out" for you, is a sign of low social IQ, which is borderline autistic and/or naive.
These are some strong gymnastics here, let's keep it simple
Prostitutes explicitly say they want your money for sex > Honest
Gold diggers do not explicitly say this, yet are only in it for guy's money > Dishonest
I fail to follow your train thoughts here
 
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Nope, hookers are enjoyable because you get to have sex with an actual woman rather than masturbating. I personally don't care about the "gf experience" as long as I get what I want.

Scams can happen in many places, not just the USA. I suppose your places were decent to evade scams but do all places have this? @ppecel is an expert escortcel, I suppose maybe he can give imput into the scamming aspect.

I will also tag @BlkPillPres for his opinion on escorts and their 'honesty' (or really the lack thereof), (lmao at people defending whores for muh honesty on this forum)
Whores are more honest than regular women, but only with men who are honest with themselves.

If man gives a whore an indication that he's a delusional blue piller, I do not blame her for trying to manipulate him with "sweet talk" like you described above.

But if you become a "regular" and you show yourself to just be there for sex, these women will act accordingly and treat the interaction for what it is. An exchange of resources.

This just reminds me of a thread I made, describing exactly why I will never feel sorry for men who get "scammed" by prostitutes, escorts, mail order brides, women they married in 3rd world countries and brought them back to the west because "she loves me", etc. I will never feel sorry for these pathetic blue pilled fucks that wake up everyday and CHOOSE to lie to themselves for the sake of pride/ego.

 
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All women are gold diggers. Believe it or not, looks have also a price.
 
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If you throw an expensive party an invite tons of guests, even ones you barely know or don't know at all, is that not a social arrangement and financial transaction together, albeit an indirect one, by your logic?

If its indirect then there isn't gonna be something spelled out. Thats what implicit means. Its common sense to know these things, only delusional people don't understand these implicit things.
It is. An expensive party with tons of guests is indeed a financial arrangement. You're paying for someone else's attention. The more important your guests are, the more you'll have to pay.
 
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Neither of them are "honest", in fact foids in general are not honest at all.
I would say gold diggers are worse than whores because a whore actually puts something on the table.
The better deal would be the whore, even if it is faked.
God diggers should be rounded up and sold as slaves.
 
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No woman is fucking honest or any shit like that. when people get that in their head, they will understand much more about life and female nature

I've come to the conclusion that all women are natural prostitutes to the vast majority to men. The only difference between escorts/sex workers and the normal woman is that the former demands you pay up front while the latter's price is nebulous, to-be-determined, often more expensive and you may not even get sex.

There is a common misconception that prostitution is illegal but this isn't true. Its just that the pussy cartel frowns upon customers trying to go through alternative avenues to acquire the product. Like a mob threatening store owners for not dancing to their tune. Prostitution is in fact perfectly legal and even state sanctioned as long as its called things like "Marriage", "Dating", "Alimony/Divorce" or "Friend zone".
 
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Escorts are the worst type of prostitutes, go to a brothel or red light district, escorts and honest prostitutes are incomparable. I've never been scammed or had a dislikeable experience at a red light district or brothel, escorts just seem both expensive and stupid to me. You pay 4x at much at a minimum and have to pay for a hotel, plus you get the same result.

Only an idiot would go to an escort, smartcels go to RLD's and brothels.
 
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Escorts are the worst type of prostitutes, go to a brothel or red light district, escorts and honest prostitutes are incomparable. I've never been scammed or had a dislikeable experience at a red light district or brothel, escorts just seem both expensive and stupid to me. You pay 4x at much at a minimum and have to pay for a hotel, plus you get the same result.
about the only benefit seems to be perhaps a lower chance of cops raiding place where it's illegal

I would only deal w/ corporation brothels in countries it were legal
 
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I've come to the conclusion that all women are natural prostitutes to the vast majority to men.
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basically inevitable as soon as they understand the concept of currency
 
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They are cheaper and get to the point immediately
 
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Gold diggers do the same shit?

Don't pay up front
Research prices beforehand so that you won't get scammed out of obscene amounts

These are some strong gymnastics here, let's keep it simple
Prostitutes explicitly say they want your money for sex > Honest
Gold diggers do not explicitly say this, yet are only in it for guy's money > Dishonest
I fail to follow your train thoughts here
It is. An expensive party with tons of guests is indeed a financial arrangement. You're paying for someone else's attention. The more important your guests are, the more you'll have to pay.
Similarly, with a gold digger, you are paying for her attention.

However, in the case of both the party and the gold digger, you'd be an idiot to not understand the implicit nature of the interaction, neither like you, they are there for the financial benefits.
Whores are more honest than regular women, but only with men who are honest with themselves.

If man gives a whore an indication that he's a delusional blue piller, I do not blame her for trying to manipulate him with "sweet talk" like you described above.

But if you become a "regular" and you show yourself to just be there for sex, these women will act accordingly and treat the interaction for what it is. An exchange of resources.

This just reminds me of a thread I made, describing exactly why I will never feel sorry for men who get "scammed" by prostitutes, escorts, mail order brides, women they married in 3rd world countries and brought them back to the west because "she loves me", etc. I will never feel sorry for these pathetic blue pilled fucks that wake up everyday and CHOOSE to lie to themselves for the sake of pride/ego.

Well said, being dishonest with oneself correlates quite well with being naive.
 
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I've come to the conclusion that all women are natural prostitutes to the vast majority to men. The only difference between escorts/sex workers and the normal woman is that the former demands you pay up front while the latter's price is nebulous, to-be-determined, often more expensive and you may not even get sex.

There is a common misconception that prostitution is illegal but this isn't true. Its just that the pussy cartel frowns upon customers trying to go through alternative avenues to acquire the product. Like a mob threatening store owners for not dancing to their tune. Prostitution is in fact perfectly legal and even state sanctioned as long as its called things like "Marriage", "Dating", "Alimony/Divorce" or "Friend zone".
yes, every relationship is transactional in one way or another
 
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