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Serious If you still want a girlfriend, you're not truly blackpilled.

I would rather be an incel than have a rude foid control the rest of my life (most marriages).
 
It confuses me to the highest order how someone can take the black pill and still cry about not being able to get a girlfriend.

A girlfriend can only offer you sex or female validation, so if you want a girlfriend you either want one of those things or both of them.

If any of you want sex, just pay a prostitute.

Otherwise, you're just chasing female validation, which is absolutely retarded for two reasons:
  1. No foid will ever love you. Even if you're a Chad, foids won't value the man himself, only his looks. If he loses his looks, she immediately takes back all the validation she gave him. So why would you give a shit about validation from foids when it depends on stuff that you can't control? It's absolutely retarded. It's like receiving credit for an assignment you didn't even do. You get nothing out of it because you didn't do anything to deserve it.
  2. Females are: weaker than us, less intelligent than us, and less attractive than us if you remove makeup and male hormones from the equation. So why the FUCK would you give a single shit about validation from the gender that's inferior to you in every way? That's like a homo sapien wanting validation from a homo erectus. It's backwards and makes no sense.

This forum should be DISGUSTED by on the idea of relationships, female validation, and the idea of "ascending", yet all I see in here is bluepilled cucks crying about not having a girlfriend. It's retarded bluepill faggotry, and I thought we were supposed to be past this nonsense after taking the black pill.

Hire a prostitute and fuck that whore if you have sexual urges, but other than that you shouldn't need a foid for ANYTHING else, and you DEFINITELY don't need a girlfriend.

Rant over. I'm gonna start blocking you bluepilled cucks whenever I see you from now on.
cope :smonk:
 
I disagree. Ascending and relationships are a biological need. Of course we are going to want them. Just look at some of the raging incels who left this forum when a they thought they had a shot with a foid. Not saying I agree with it (I don't), but this hope alone gave them a better outlook on life. Finding a good gfs literally makes your life perfect.

That said, life would be a lot better without this need for women. It's a curse.
 
Zaysed take. I don’t envy the sex lives of cucked normies, I envy the sex lives of Chads and people with access to high-quality escorts
 
It is strange.
I know a woman will never love me….but I still wish I could find a woman who does.
It is from the deepest parts of our minds. The desire to get female love cannot be shut off by any information the male receives.
We are certainly not going to blackpill ourselves out of one of our most basic biological needs.
No matter how much we know that women are nasty bitches.
Incels who say that they don’t want a girlfriend are trying to fool themselves into believing it because they think getting a girlfriend is impossible.
If a woman wanted to date any of us, every one of us would date her.
 
I don't want foids anymore. I just want to coom, LDAR, and cope.
 
Yeah wanting a foid under the current matriarchy is literally begging to be a simp/betabuxxer, you are literally worse than bluepillers.
 
This is a hard cope. It’s not like we have a choice
Yeah, lots of girls approach me for wanting to be my gf but I always have to reject them because I'm blackpilled.

/s :soy:
 
This knowledge should be water wtf
 
On the contrary, a girlfriend / dating someone gets you social status and will allow you to be more successful in other areas of your life.
This is sadly true. Others see you as gay, abnormal, or defective in some way (physical ailments, mental illness etc.), if you're a straight man without a woman. This naturally results in your gradual ostracization. One thing that you'll immediately notice is that you'll start being invited less and less for social events by the people whom you thought were your friends.

I remember reading a study about voter psychology and it mentioned that political candidates for leadership positions (president, prime minister etc.) were trusted less if they were a bachelor or divorced and single. So the effects on life success are very tangibly real.
 
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Also historically speaking, women were always portrait as sexual predators attacking men, not vice versa. Women were included in lists of vices a man had to avoid like, "gambling, alchocol and women."
They absolutely were considered a vice and still are even today in large parts of the world. Eligible bachelorettes who didn't marry were suspected of loose morals and being harlots who slept with married men. The Western world went backwards in this regard (and in many other things, as evidenced by globohomo).

It is strange.
I know a woman will never love me….but I still wish I could find a woman who does.
It is from the deepest parts of our minds. The desire to get female love cannot be shut off by any information the male receives.
We are certainly not going to blackpill ourselves out of one of our most basic biological needs.
No matter how much we know that women are nasty bitches.
Incels who say that they don’t want a girlfriend are trying to fool themselves into believing it because they think getting a girlfriend is impossible.
If a woman wanted to date any of us, every one of us would date her.
What you're saying is true for the general case, but it is possible.

You won't ever believe me and will think I'm deluding myself and coping, but I've been black pilled to the point where I have absolutely zero desire for female validation. I still get horny, of course, because I can't turn off my bodily functions, but my mind has adapted and completely overcome the psychological need of female companionship and validation.

Whenever I see young beautiful couples about, holding hands, sharing kisses, and having their arms wrapped around each other, I have zero emotional reaction to that anymore. There is no longing or desire to have that. I just check out the woman and see that she's breedable. All I see is a fertile female animal coupled with a virile male animal with the social and literal dressings (clothes) layered on top.

When you reach a certain level of black pill you see reality for what it truly is in quite a unique way. I know this sounds pretentious, but it truly is a form of enlightenment.
 
They absolutely were considered a vice and still are even today in large parts of the world. Eligible bachelorettes who didn't marry were suspected of loose morals and being harlots who slept with married men. The Western world went backwards in this regard (and in many other things, as evidenced by globohomo).


What you're saying is true for the general case, but it is possible.

You won't ever believe me and will think I'm deluding myself and coping, but I've been black pilled to the point where I have absolutely zero desire for female validation. I still get horny, of course, because I can't turn off my bodily functions, but my mind has adapted and completely overcome the psychological need of female companionship and validation.

Whenever I see young beautiful couples about, holding hands, sharing kisses, and having their arms wrapped around each other, I have zero emotional reaction to that anymore. There is no longing or desire to have that. I just check out the woman and see that she's breedable. All I see is a fertile female animal coupled with a virile male animal with the social and literal dressings (clothes) layered on top.

When you reach a certain level of black pill you see reality for what it truly is in quite a unique way. I know this sounds pretentious, but it truly is a form of enlightenment.
it acutally is ngl.
Like, when you start seeing relationships for what you truly are, you start pitying the betabuxxer. Its really nothing to be envious off. And more often then not they seem fucking miserable too with their wifes or gfs, when you see them being led around like dogs in the superjew and shit.

Yeah, faggots reading your post will go sour grapes sour grapes, but they really dont get how fucking rigged the game is if your male. There is nothing to be admired about being a man in this day and age. We are all going down, even chad.
 
@ResidentHell
Agreed with all of OP, except the part about prostitution. The truth is that all civilized methods of acquiring sex from women involve a necessary pursuit of female validation. By paying a hooker for sex, in some sense you are validating them for their sexual value by showing that you're willing to offer them money (or economic resources) in exchange for sexual contact with their body

The only true ways to gain sex from a female without having to undergo the pursuit of female validation, is either: (a) by force, which in this case would be rape (which also is illegal), (b) by accident (which is very unlikely to happen in any circumstance), or (c) if the female approaches first

I made a thread on this a while ago:
 
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Agreed with all of OP, except the part about prostitution. The truth is that all civilized methods of acquiring sex from women involve a necessary pursuit of female validation. By paying a hooker for sex, in some sense you are validating them for their sexual value by showing that you're willing to offer them money (or economic resources) in exchange for sexual contact with their body

The only true ways to gain sex from a female without having to undergo the pursuit of female validation, is either: (a) by force, which in this case would be rape (which also is illegal), (b) by accident (which is very unlikely to happen in any circumstance), or (c) if the female approaches first

I made a thread on this a while ago:
@CantEscapeYourFate Thoughts?
 
To me:
A. loneliness
B. whores/clown world

Disregarding or conforming to problem B does not eliminate problem A
 
@CantEscapeYourFate Thoughts?
Agreed with all of OP, except the part about prostitution. The truth is that all civilized methods of acquiring sex from women involve a necessary pursuit of female validation. By paying a hooker for sex, in some sense you are validating them for their sexual value by showing that you're willing to offer them money (or economic resources) in exchange for sexual contact with their body

The only true ways to gain sex from a female without having to undergo the pursuit of female validation, is either: (a) by force, which in this case would be rape (which also is illegal), (b) by accident (which is very unlikely to happen in any circumstance), or (c) if the female approaches first

I made a thread on this a while ago:
When you pay for sex, you're paying for SEX. There's no intention of chasing female validation. It may be an unintentional consequence that by paying to use her body, you're also indirectly chasing female validation, but that doesn't make you a bluepilled simp, because it's a necessary evil in order to get the sex. It's not the main reason why you're paying her.

That argument is the same argument vegans use to call non-vegans immoral. Meat contains nutrients our bodies require for health that cannot be obtained from plants, yet they call us immoral animal murderers when we consume meat.

Even though we are technically murdering animals, it doesn't make us immoral, because murdering animals is a necessary evil in order for us to be obtain adequate nutrition to be healthy.

We don't eat meat for the sake of murdering animals. Just like how we aren't paying for sex for the sake of seeking validation from foids. It's just a necessary evil in order to get the sex.

It would be different if you gave the foid free money, or paid her to go on a date, or any other simp shit, because the REASON YOU'RE DOING IT is to seek female validation, whereas you're paying to have sex for the reason of having sex, and it's the easiest and fastest way for that particular person to get it without facing huge negative consequences.

Ideally, rape would be the best option, except it's NOT an option.
 
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Masculinity is a social construct created to serve women (there is something to be said about what actual masculinity should be, but its not what they say it is), dating is a joke - its all just hoops for idiots to jump through. Vetting process for dogs. The street mongrel sniffs the air twice and turns his back on such an obvious trap.
There is a book written by a woman that goes into depth about this. It's called The Manipulated Man. The author of that book is spot on, and she's the most based foid I ever came across.

As for what real masculinity is, I personally think it's just about being able to fight. The better you are at fighting, the more masculine you are.

If you think about it, all the Chad body structure really is, is just the body structure that's the most adapted to fighting.
  • Larger bones for more weight and defense
  • Longer bones/limbs for reach advantage
  • Bigger muscles for more strength and power
  • Hunter eyes to protect your eyes better from claws/fingers etc.
  • Bigger chin and jaw to protect your face more and generate more bite force
  • etc.
Also, back in the caveman days, the best fighters would have also automatically been the best providers because they will survive longer and naturally be the best at hunting.

You could even argue that women are attracted to Chads because it's biologically ingrained in them to know that Chads will make the best fighters and will therefore be better at protecting them and their offspring.

Maybe I'm completely wrong, but that's the only idea of masculinity that makes the most sense to me.
 
There is a book written by a woman that goes into depth about this. It's called The Manipulated Man. The author of that book is spot on, and she's the most based foid I ever came across.

As for what real masculinity is, I personally think it's just about being able to fight. The better you are at fighting, the more masculine you are.

If you think about it, all the Chad body structure really is, is just the body structure that's the most adapted to fighting.
  • Larger bones for more weight and defense
  • Longer bones/limbs for reach advantage
  • Bigger muscles for more strength and power
  • Hunter eyes to protect your eyes better from claws/fingers etc.
  • Bigger chin and jaw to protect your face more and generate more bite force
  • etc.
Also, back in the caveman days, the best fighters would have also automatically been the best providers because they will survive longer and naturally be the best at hunting.

You could even argue that women are attracted to Chads because it's biologically ingrained in them to know that Chads will make the best fighters and will therefore be better at protecting them and their offspring.

Maybe I'm completely wrong, but that's the only idea of masculinity that makes the most sense to me.
by esther vilar? i actually read it long ago. Afaik foids attacked her in public bathroom and beat the shit out of her kek.
 
I want kids and a family, can an escort provide this? Fuck no.
If you want kids and a family that's fair. But that still doesn't mean be a complete bluepilled simp and be all romantic (aka bluepill faggot mode) with your concubine.

Ask yourself, if you remove the bluepilled hollywood romance/disney fairy tale bullshit out of the picture such as:
  • weddings
  • honeymoons
  • kisses
  • hugs
  • "romantic" sex
  • saying "I love you" to the kids or the wife
  • sharing a bedroom with the wife
  • anniversary celebrations etc.

will you STILL want a family? If no, then you're simply a bluepilled cuck trying to disguise it as being a family man.
 
by esther vilar? i actually read it long ago. Afaik foids attacked her in public bathroom and beat the shit out of her kek.
Yeah that's her. JFL I didn't even know that happened. That's what happens when you're a "pick me". All of a sudden, "woman power" goes out of the window.
 
Yeah that's her. JFL I didn't even know that happened. That's what happens when you're a "pick me". All of a sudden, "woman power" goes out of the window.

kekfuel ngl

When Esther Vilar published her book The Manipulated Man she was beaten up by four young women in the toilet of the Munich State Library who were angry about her perspectives. According to her own statement, her emigration from Germany goes back to this.
 
Yeah, lots of girls approach me for wanting to be my gf but I always have to reject them because I'm blackpilled.

/s :soy:
@Caesercel remove this nigga avi. It's in the likeness of a female. Equal to FOID worship imp, imagine someone having an astolfo avi
 
@Caesercel remove this nigga avi. It's in the likeness of a female. Equal to FOID worship imp, imagine someone having an astolfo avi
This is allowed by the mods afaik, if you want my avi banned contact the mods directly without replying to me bc i dont like opening my feed to the same retarded <80iq users every single day
 
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true but its in human nature to want relationships, intimacy, feeling of being loved. Reality is brutal and different than that. Perhaps we just want the idea of it while being aware of the truth
 
Sex with an escort is not the same as with your virgin hot oneitis from HS.

Female validation does not affect just the way women view you, it affects how men treat you as well. So basically if you're labelled as an ugly creep you'll become a social outcast.

It's not as simple as "muh just go to an escort brooo", "muh don't chase wimin brooo that's cucked i'm gonna block ya".
On the contrary, a girlfriend / dating someone gets you social status and will allow you to be more successful in other areas of your life.

Once you get to the age of 24+, people will start shunning you if they see that you aren't in a long term relationship. Additionally, most normies have literally 0 interests besides the social drama of their social circle, the drama in their relationships, and their work. Perhaps what's surface level popular (I'm a huge MARVEL AND STAR WARS FAN, I JUST SAW THE LAST OF US); most people will gradually stop relating to who you are as time progresses due to their focus being their work, lovers, friend drama, eventually marriage, kids, a mortgage, investing stocks / 401k, and so on.

You aren't truly blackpilled if you think there is a facet of human society that isn't about endlessly reproducing the species with superior physical genetics.
Ive been getting asked left and right by various people the reason of me being single in my 30's and not married yet. People around me, family, colleagues,etc are starting to doubt whether I'm retarded or gay or have some other issue.

They know that I don't have a gf and the fact that I'm not married yet and not interested in getting married is affecting people's view on me.

I don't want to arrangemarriagemax by the way.It's a huge cope and you're going to get divorce rape later.
 
Ive been getting asked left and right by various people the reason of me being single in my 30's and not married yet. People around me, family, colleagues,etc are starting to doubt whether I'm retarded or gay or have some other issue.

They know that I don't have a gf and the fact that I'm not married yet and not interested in getting married is affecting people's view on me.

I don't want to arrangemarriagemax by the way.It's a huge cope and you're going to get divorce rape later.
Normal people get into relationships.... If you do not have them you're not normal... At least normans think of it that way, they cannot believe that you may be too ugly to date.

My mother said that my uncles asked if i was gay. Just because i don't meet with girls.... Can you believe it? This is why it goes beyond sex. It also affects how your coworkers treat you, how your friends treat you and how your family percieve you.

Everyone.... Cares about how well you do with the opposite sex.
 
This is why it goes beyond sex. It also affects how your coworkers treat you, how your friends treat you and how your family percieve you.

Everyone.... Cares about how well you do with the opposite sex.
:bigbrain:
 
Wake-up call. I appreciate your thread. Logical enough.
 
Sounds like a gigacope to me. Maybe you have consciously deluded yourself into thinking that you don't want female validation but unconsciously you still crave it just like every other heterosexual man.
 
It may be an unintentional consequence that by paying to use her body, you're also indirectly chasing female validation, but that doesn't make you a bluepilled simp, because it's a necessary evil in order to get the sex. It's not the main reason why you're paying her.
It would be different if you gave the foid free money, or paid her to go on a date, or any other simp shit, because the REASON YOU'RE DOING IT is to seek female validation, whereas you're paying to have sex for the reason of having sex, and it's the easiest and fastest way for that particular person to get it without facing huge negative consequences.

Ideally, rape would be the best option, except it's NOT an option
Agreed :yes: Although I don't believe in "good" or "evil", but I understand. Female validation by escortbux is not the intended outcome as it's not the main reason for escorting, but it is like a side-effect of escorting. It's way more straightforward to escortbux than give free money or pay for a date without assurance of sex
 
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It confuses me to the highest order how someone can take the black pill and still cry about not being able to get a girlfriend.

A girlfriend can only offer you sex or female validation, so if you want a girlfriend you either want one of those things or both of them.

If any of you want sex, just pay a prostitute.

Otherwise, you're just chasing female validation, which is absolutely retarded for two reasons:
  1. No foid will ever love you. Even if you're a Chad, foids won't value the man himself, only his looks. If he loses his looks, she immediately takes back all the validation she gave him. So why would you give a shit about validation from foids when it depends on stuff that you can't control? It's absolutely retarded. It's like receiving credit for an assignment you didn't even do. You get nothing out of it because you didn't do anything to deserve it.
  2. Females are: weaker than us, less intelligent than us, and less attractive than us if you remove makeup and male hormones from the equation. So why the FUCK would you give a single shit about validation from the gender that's inferior to you in every way? That's like a homo sapien wanting validation from a homo erectus. It's backwards and makes no sense.

This forum should be DISGUSTED by on the idea of relationships, female validation, and the idea of "ascending", yet all I see in here is bluepilled cucks crying about not having a girlfriend. It's retarded bluepill faggotry, and I thought we were supposed to be past this nonsense after taking the black pill.

Hire a prostitute and fuck that whore if you have sexual urges, but other than that you shouldn't need a foid for ANYTHING else, and you DEFINITELY don't need a girlfriend.

Rant over. I'm gonna start blocking you bluepilled cucks whenever I see you from now on.
Ok whatever still want a girlfriend
 
Sounds like a gigacope to me. Maybe you have consciously deluded yourself into thinking that you don't want female validation but unconsciously you still crave it just like every other heterosexual man.
Men only biologically crave sex. Craving bluepilled romance bullshit is not a natural urge for us. It's indoctrination.
 
W post, women are inferior beings not worth a second of my time
 
It confuses me to the highest order how someone can take the black pill and still cry about not being able to get a girlfriend.

A girlfriend can only offer you sex or female validation, so if you want a girlfriend you either want one of those things or both of them.

If any of you want sex, just pay a prostitute.

Otherwise, you're just chasing female validation, which is absolutely retarded for two reasons:
  1. No foid will ever love you. Even if you're a Chad, foids won't value the man himself, only his looks. If he loses his looks, she immediately takes back all the validation she gave him. So why would you give a shit about validation from foids when it depends on stuff that you can't control? It's absolutely retarded. It's like receiving credit for an assignment you didn't even do. You get nothing out of it because you didn't do anything to deserve it.
  2. Females are: weaker than us, less intelligent than us, and less attractive than us if you remove makeup and male hormones from the equation. So why the FUCK would you give a single shit about validation from the gender that's inferior to you in every way? That's like a homo sapien wanting validation from a homo erectus. It's backwards and makes no sense.

This forum should be DISGUSTED by on the idea of relationships, female validation, and the idea of "ascending", yet all I see in here is bluepilled cucks crying about not having a girlfriend. It's retarded bluepill faggotry, and I thought we were supposed to be past this nonsense after taking the black pill.

Hire a prostitute and fuck that whore if you have sexual urges, but other than that you shouldn't need a foid for ANYTHING else, and you DEFINITELY don't need a girlfriend.

Rant over. I'm gonna start blocking you bluepilled cucks whenever I see you from now on.

Block away, whores will not ease your sense of loneliness, you might be happy for a day or two that you fucked, but after a while, the fact that you're lonely and your miserable life is still meaningless and pointless hits back like a truck.

I agree on points about modern Women, but not relationships and having someone special that make our lives worthwhile.
Only when we have AI bots will Women be completely irrelevant.
 
Yeah but isn't sex the highest form of validation?
Depends. Transactional sex isn't for validation. It's you paying for a product.

But if you're a bluepilled weirdo who views sex as an "emotional bond" :soy::soy::soy: then yes, you will view sex as a form of validation.
 
Block away, whores will not ease your sense of loneliness, you might be happy for a day or two that you fucked, but after a while, the fact that you're lonely and your miserable life is still meaningless and pointless hits back like a truck.

I agree on points about modern Women, but not relationships and having someone special that make our lives worthwhile.
Only when we have AI bots will Women be completely irrelevant.
I don't feel lonely because I'm not bluepilled. Whores to me are for fun, not for emotional bonds like you bluepillers believe.
 
I don't feel lonely because I'm not bluepilled. Whores to me are for fun, not for emotional bonds like you bluepillers believe.
How old are you? In your post 18 years or in your 20s like most people on this site?

Get back to me when you reach 30+ and never had someone in your life up until this point.
I'd love to see if you're still thinking like this.
So many kiddie LARPERs in denial on this site and then age hits them HARD when they realize they are all alone, coming to an empty house after a day of wage slaving.

This is the situation where most here are in now and most will end up dying and rotting on their own empty houses only to be found out when the neighbors can't stand the decaying smell anymore, I don't deny this is my future either.
 
Depends. Transactional sex isn't for validation. It's you paying for a product.

But if you're a bluepilled weirdo who views sex as an "emotional bond" :soy::soy::soy: then yes, you will view sex as a form of validation.
I wasn't implying any of that you're just making shit up at this point. Anyway what I was talking about is when women and I mean prime women not used up old roasties want to be around you for sexual reasons it means that you've won the genetic lottery. You're a winner. And I can't think of anything more validating than that.

Of course you can cope with the whole "i don't need validation from them low iq femoids etc." and it's like yeah you do. Your brain unconsciously knows whether you're a loser or a winner and it does so by judging how successful you are with the opposite sex.
 
I'm a disabled schizo and I don't want to perpetuate my misery by breeding another generation of broken men. I don't even want sex, antipsychotics nuked my libido. So I'm not sure if I have a need for a woman. I guess I can cuddle with a robot maid gf/prostitute in 2030.

Such cases.
 
How old are you? In your post 18 years or in your 20s like most people on this site?

Get back to me when you reach 30+ and never had someone in your life up until this point.
I'd love to see if you're still thinking like this.
So many kiddie LARPERs in denial on this site and then age hits them HARD when they realize they are all alone, coming to an empty house after a day of wage slaving.

This is the situation where most here are in now and most will end up dying and rotting on their own empty houses only to be found out when the neighbors can't stand the decaying smell anymore, I don't deny this is my future either.
I'm 23, and getting older won't change anything for me. I'm on the extreme end of introversion, and I never liked people in general to begin with, so maybe I'm an exception.

But even for people that DO become lonely, that's no excuse to become a bluepilled beta male begging foids for a relationship. Just get a male friend. Or join internet groups like this site.

There's no excuses for wanting a girlfriend other than you're a bluepilled simp.
 
White pill. Its true, women can't love a man. Their "love" is so opportunistic and women are extremely self-absorbed. If only it was possible to take your libido out, doesn't work like that though. As long as women can't love men, men shouldn't love these whores back.
That's some redpill bullshit. Women can love they just don't love you. Believe me chad gets plenty off love jfl
 
I wasn't implying any of that you're just making shit up at this point. Anyway what I was talking about is when women and I mean prime women not used up old roasties want to be around you for sexual reasons it means that you've won the genetic lottery. You're a winner. And I can't think of anything more validating than that.
And you haven't made any valid arguments.
Of course you can cope with the whole "i don't need validation from them low iq femoids etc." and it's like yeah you do. Your brain unconsciously knows whether you're a loser or a winner and it does so by judging how successful you are with the opposite sex.
Ultimately, only you decide whether you're a loser or not. If you choose to subscribe to what society deems as a loser or not, that's your problem.
 

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