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Serious If You Are Going To Be Indefinitely Incel From This Point Forward (No Future Prospects For Sex) Then There Is No Reason Not To Be A Porn Addict

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Seriously think about it

There are no side effects to masturbation, there are none, its all placebo "muh energy, confidence and virility" BS, and ironically you only need said confidence and virility if you plan on pursuing women, so nofap boosts traits you don't tend on utilizing JFL (what kind of retard logic is that, that's like a runner who does more upper body training than lower)

Taking the lack of tangible negatives into account here's a question, why not be "addicted" to porn?

If you think about it entertainment is an "addiction", its something we do and we crave but we DON'T NEED, we could be bored 24/7 and not die of it, yet we pay money to have access to it in a constant supply, more than we ever pay for porn + masturbation (which is just your internet and electricity bill)

Yet nobody is ever talking about "quitting entertainment", where's that "nofun" movement? JFL

"I've been watching too many movies, tv shows, youtube videos, etc and listening to too much music, podcasts, etc. My brain is "overstimulated" with entertainment and that makes day to day regular interactions and activities feel less than, so I need to cut back on entertainment. Also being entertained takes up free time and keeps me from being forced to pursue other things I could be doing rather than being entertained"

Nobody ever says this shit, but because sex and sexual pleasure is something taboo, we have these weird standards applied to it, where its like you treated as if you are "cheating the system" by gaining access to sexual pleasure and not "paying the toll", its really all about shame, it has nothing to do with any improvement magically caused by not ejaculating, ironically if you aren't going to be having sex, masturbation reduces your risk of testicular cancer, as its your only release and use of your testes (remember this thread is directed towards men who plan to or know they won't get laid ever again or at all)



Seriously, if you don't plan on becoming an escortcel and you don't see yourself ever ascending and you don't even trying anymore, why do nofap?

When I start escortcelling regularly and I can afford to do it, I plan on stopping porn completely.......... BECAUSE I'LL HAVE NO NEED FOR IT (the only videos I may still have will be of myself maybe JFL). I actually do plan on doing nofap at least 6 months before I begin to escortcel like this, so I can fully enjoy the experience, but if I never planned on doing anything like this, I'd just jerk off and not bother

I don't understand how this has become a normal train of thought for men, women probably masturbate like crazy, they can have multiple orgasms and keep going so its a longer more enjoyable experience for them, they don't have the same shame and stigma on their "sex toys" like we do and they can very easily satisfy themselves with one more so than we can with a fleshlight (a penis doesn't have vibration settings, and vibrational stimulation affects the clitoris a lot even without direct contact, the same doesn't really apply to a penis)

Do you see any female nofap movements, NO

Do you hear women talking about the magical side effects of masturbating too much, NO




Its all BS driven by shame, truth is, you don't want to stop masturbating because there's a benefit to it, you just want to stop because you feel ashamed for not getting sexual pleasure "the right way", "a man's way", so nofap is like some weird form of penance for a lot of you, punishing yourself for not being able to get a woman, because think about it, with no end goal/release in sight it is nothing but a punishment, because you aren't "training/improving" for any future event

YOU ARE REPRESSING YOURSELF SEXUALLY
FOR THE SAKE OF REPRESSING YOURSELF SEXUALLY


Please tell me how a "porn addiction" is a bad thing for a man who is never going to have sex, if he gets (PIED) "Porn Induced Erectile Dysfunction" and he can only get hard to porn, then how is that a problem for him WHEN HE'LL NEVER HAVE SEX, I'd call that a useful adaptation not a problem, your body is becoming accustomed to what you have access to

PIED is only a problem for married men who become "porn addicts", and those guys are fucking idiots, because you have a wife, you should be fucking her, that's your job, and her job is to fuck you



DOING NOFAP AS A "PERMA-INCEL"

IS LIKE A PERSON WHO WAKES UP IN A WHEELCHAIR NOT BEING ABLE TO WALK AND DECIDES TO DO LUNG CAPACITY TRAINING AND BREATH CONTROL, AS IF THEY ARE GOING TO BE RUNNING OR SWIMMING IN A RACE AT SOME POINT
 
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Just become a cumbrian coomer theory
 
sexpat > porn addict > nofap cuck
 
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Cool story bro
Coom till I die
 
Porn addiction made me want to kill myself so i think i'll pass.
 
Coooooooom. Being a cumbrain ain't good though.
 
I don’t need to coom, all I need is a rope.
 
Yes I did, and it didn't make me feel like shit.
Then you didn't coom hard enough. There is a limit to how far you can go. Afterwards, you will be put off of it.
 
I will settle for any woman on earth at this point but I guess that won't happen so I must coom
 
I did as hard as I could several times and I enjoyed it. No regrets.
You can't call yourself a coomer until you've gone like 5 times at least in a row. Try that and then tell me it's fun after.

Being a coomer is not fun. It's depressing. Even after I coom I just get depressed
 
I have nothing else to say.... You said everything that could have been said. High IQ once again :feelzez:
 
Is fapping bad for balding? That's all I'm worried about
 

I already said why in the thread, shame, they are ashamed of not getting sex "the right/manly way" and that shame and self loathing looms over them everyday, especially while in the act, and they can't get over it so it becomes psychological trauma, its basically just their egos holding them back

Either way JFL dude, these guys don't have answers, they are literally just indoctrinated lemmings, look at the kinds of responses I'm getting:

Being a cumbrain ain't good though.

They don't even bother stating why specifically, because they don't have a why, its bad because its bad, it makes them want to kill themselves because reasons
 
I already said why in the thread, shame, they are ashamed of not getting sex "the right/manly way" and that shame and self loathing looms over them everyday, especially while in the act, and they can't get over it so it becomes psychological trauma, its basically just their egos holding them back

Either way JFL dude, these guys don't have answers, they are literally just indoctrinated lemmings, look at the kinds of responses I'm getting:



They don't even bother stating why specifically, because they don't have a why, its bad because its bad, it makes them want to kill themselves because reasons
Friction burn on your foreskin
Chance of warts
Higher chance of grabbing your dick in public
Makes you tired & anxious
The mess
You put off other stuff in lieu of cooming
 
I already said why in the thread, shame, they are ashamed of not getting sex "the right/manly way" and that shame and self loathing looms over them everyday, especially while in the act, and they can't get over it so it becomes psychological trauma, its basically just their egos holding them back

Either way JFL dude, these guys don't have answers, they are literally just indoctrinated lemmings, look at the kinds of responses I'm getting:



They don't even bother stating why specifically, because they don't have a why, its bad because its bad, it makes them want to kill themselves because reasons
I was addicted to porn for 5 years. It got to the point i couldn't even get hard if i wasn' watching the most depraved porn there is. I still suffer from the damages that porn caused me. Me not watching porn has nothing to do with my ego. You don't have to insult me.
 
sexpat > porn addict > nofap cuck

True, I plan to be a sexpat, but if I ever gave up completely, I'd by a fleshlight, some VR goggles, an HD porn subscription so I can easily get all the HD shit without effort, the whole shabang, why not if its over and your only sexual outlet in life will be porn, you'd just be starving yourself for nothing

Its like a person who wakes up in a wheelchair not being able to walk and decides to do lung capacity training and breath control, as if they are going to be running or swimming in a race at some point
 
True, I plan to be a sexpat, but if I ever gave up completely, I'd by a fleshlight, some VR goggles, an HD porn subscription so I can easily get all the HD shit without effort, the whole shabang, why not if its over and your only sexual outlet in life will be porn, you'd just be starving yourself for nothing

Its like a person who wakes up in a wheelchair not being able to walk and decides to do lung capacity training and breath control, as if they are going to be running or swimming in a race at some point
As a nigger you should try Europe, I hear poland is good. Also I have a flashlight, it's not really that good, I masturbate with hands.
 
I was addicted to porn for 5 years. It got to the point i couldn't even get hard if i wasn' watching the most depraved porn there is. I still suffer from the damages that porn caused me. Me not watching porn has nothing to do with my ego. You don't have to insult me.


I literally made an argument about this ridiculous logic in the thread:
Please tell me how a "porn addiction" is a bad thing for a man who is never going to have sex, if he gets (PIED) "Porn Induced Erectile Dysfunction" and he can only get hard to porn, then how is that a problem for him WHEN HE'LL NEVER HAVE SEX, I'd call that a useful adaptation not a problem, your body is becoming accustomed to what you have access to

I don't think you understand that the argument literally makes no sense at all

Answer this simple question

IF YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO HAVE SEX FROM THIS POINT ON, THEN HOW IS BEING ADAPTED TO YOUR ONLY SOURCE OF SEXUAL PLEASURE A "DAMAGE" TO YOU?

I doubt you can answer this honestly without some kind of BE mental gymnastics or a red herring, because there is no way around this, all that "depraved shit", why not jerk off to it?, seriously why not?, what is the damage done when you'll never have to be hard for regular sex?, are you getting the point?, the affliction is only a "negative" IF YOU HAVE FUTURE PROSPECTS

Like I said in the thread:
DOING NOFAP AS A "PERMA-INCEL"

IS LIKE A PERSON WHO WAKES UP IN A WHEELCHAIR NOT BEING ABLE TO WALK AND DECIDES TO DO LUNG CAPACITY TRAINING AND BREATH CONTROL, AS IF THEY ARE GOING TO BE RUNNING OR SWIMMING IN A RACE AT SOME POINT
 
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Coomer cope, why would I watch the very thing I hate? Foids fucking people for money, faking orgasms, fake moaning.. It went from enjoyment to ragefuel for me.
 
Friction burn on your foreskin
What are you, the flash or something?, what a waste of your power
Chance of warts
I really don't see how, you don't wash your fucking hands before you masturbate?
Higher chance of grabbing your dick in public
Its seeming more and more like its really just you that's the problem, that you are an unclean retarded fuck, you have to be trolling right now, I'm not addressing anymore of these points
 
You are right, but as you mentioned, im planning to escortcel some time in future and i dont want embarass myself by not getting hard
 
Coomer cope, why would I watch the very thing I hate? Foids fucking people for money, faking orgasms, fake moaning.. It went from enjoyment to ragefuel for me.

There's hentai dude, can't watch that, ok then why watch women period, why try and enjoy any media that includes them or holds romantic themes, that's a lot of media you can't consume, notice what I said in the thread:

Nobody ever says this shit, but because sex and sexual pleasure is something taboo, we have these weird standards applied to it

You are just focusing this restriction only on sexual pleasure, if you hate women for what they do and who they are, why watch tv shows, anime, or play games that include female characters

Do you hate Chad too, that takes out a lot of action movie stars, games, tv shows, etc

My my what are you going to do with all the free time you have now (storms off to play game with "strong male lead")



You are right, but as you mentioned, im planning to escortcel some time in future and i dont want embarass myself by not getting hard

I agree completely, this is literally the reason I plan on doing nofap a few months before I begin to escortcel, my point is you aren't going to be having sex, there's no reason for you to "be able to get hard under normal circumstances" because there won't be any normal circumstances for you
 
No coom for me anymore , I'm a new man
 
I don't even have the energy to jerk off anymore.
But you're still right at the end of the day.
No point in quitting porn when you wont ever have sex anyway.
 
I literally made an argument about this ridiculous logic in the thread:



I don't think you understand that the argument literally makes no sense at all

Answer this simple question

IF YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO HAVE SEX FROM THIS POINT ON, then how is BEING ADAPTED TO YOUR ONLY SOURCE OF SEXUAL PLEASURE A "DAMAGE" TO YOU?

I doubt you can answer this honestly without some kind of BE mental gymnastics or a red herring, because there is no way around this, all that "depraved shit", why not jerk off to it, seriously why not, what is the damage done when you'll never have to be hard for regular sex?, are you getting the point, the affliction is only a "negative" IF YOU HAVE FUTURE PROSPECTS

Like I said in the thread:
I prefer to never jerk off again I feel no joy out of it anymore. It doesn't make sense to keep doing something that's making me feel worse. I'm gonna try to keep a little bit of my dignity and so i refuse to become a complete degenerate again. I guess most people can do it and still feel good about themselves. Good for them. Porn is ruined for me though. Also, when i jerk off i'm more passive and docile Whilst if i don't jerk off, i actually got some balls to refuse to let people walk all over me and actually do what i want.
 
I've been addicted to masturbation since I was 10 years old. It has never caused me any harm. I don't understand this whole no fap bullshit either. It's fun because I can imagine myself fucking any woman.
 
Me not watching porn has nothing to do with my EGO.
I'm gonna try to keep a little bit of my DIGNITY and so i refuse to become a complete DEGENERATE again

Do you see the contradiction, because its pretty obvious

I prefer to never jerk off again I feel no joy out of it anymore. It doesn't make sense to keep doing something that's making me feel worse

Again the reason why you "feel worse", is because your ego is staked in some arbitrary concept of a "higher standard", and doing what you consider a "degenerate act" makes you feel less than, like you are failing yourself, that's your ego, to say otherwise is to lie to yourself, degeneracy is about morality, and morality is an aspect of egotistical thought

Like I said in my last thread:
Morality is just another aspect of ones ego, you adhere to a "higher standard" and by virtue of that you see yourself as a "higher being" and those that don't adhere to it as "beneath you" in some sense



Also, when i jerk off i'm more passive and docile Whilst if i don't jerk off, i actually got some balls to refuse to let people walk all over me and actually do what i want.

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Dude I feel like you are doing this on purpose, this thread was basically meant for you, how can you fit to a T so many of the things I pointed out about the way guys like you think

There are no side effects to masturbation, there are none, its all PLACEBO "muh energy, CONFIDENCE and virility" BS, and ironically you only need said confidence and virility if you plan on pursuing women, so nofap boosts traits you don't tend on utilizing JFL (what kind of retard logic is that, that's like a runner who does more upper body training than lower)

Being passive is a decision, not something forced onto you, you DECIDE to be passive when you masturbate because you hate yourself for masturbating, so you let yourself get walked over, and you DECIDE to not be passive when you don't masturbate, there isn't some magic personality switch in your brain that goes on and off based on when you ejaculate (and only specifically when you ejaculate without a woman present)

You are literally just using nofap as a CONFIDENCE PLACEBO

So you have like zero self awareness then?, this is the most NPC post I've read on this site - "I have no control, I just happen to activate passive/docile mode whenever I execute the masturbation function, I can't stop it, its in my code, I have to let people "walk over me" at that point"

Let me guess, if you ejaculated 100 times in a threesome you'd magically get no side effects in this case and you wouldn't be left "being passive" afterwards (how convenient that mental gymnastics is)

Its the same BS nofappers say about "energy", sex is a more physically taxing act, yet you don't hear normies complaining about energy levels, whilst you sitting in a chair using only your dominant hand to stroke your dick magically drains you of energy or leaves you "feeling passive", that's BS and you know it

I swear a lot of you guys are the fakest fucks, you come on here talking all this "muh black pill" shit like you are so much more logical than normies and "not emotional like them", when most of you are just illogical ugly normies, you are no different than the NPC's you talk badly about

I'm done responding to this nonsense, don't do it if you don't want to, but at least have logical reasons for it, and if you don't have logical reasons AT LEAST ADMIT THEY AREN'T LOGICAL AND ITS EGO BASED (EMOTIONAL)
 
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Seriously think about it

There are no side effects to masturbation, there are none, its all placebo "muh energy, confidence and virility" BS, and ironically you only need said confidence and virility if you plan on pursuing women, so nofap boosts traits you don't tend on utilizing JFL (what kind of retard logic is that, that's like a runner who does more upper body training than lower)

Taking the lack of tangible negatives into account here's a question, why not be "addicted" to porn?

If you think about it entertainment is an "addiction", its something we do and we crave but we DON'T NEED, we could be bored 24/7 and not die of it, yet we pay money to have access to it in a constant supply, more than we ever pay for porn + masturbation (which is just your internet and electricity bill)

Yet nobody is ever talking about "quitting entertainment", where's that "nofun" movement? JFL

"I've been watching too many movies, tv shows, youtube videos, etc and listening to too much music, podcasts, etc. My brain is "overstimulated" with entertainment and that makes day to day regular interactions and activities feel less than, so I need to cut back on entertainment. Also being entertained takes up free time and keeps me from being forced to pursue other things I could be doing rather than being entertained"

Nobody ever says this shit, but because sex and sexual pleasure is something taboo, we have these weird standards applied to it, where its like you treated as if you are "cheating the system" by gaining access to sexual pleasure and not "paying the toll", its really all about shame, it has nothing to do with any improvement magically caused by not ejaculating, ironically if you aren't going to be having sex, masturbation reduces your risk of testicular cancer, as its your only release and use of your testes (remember this thread is directed towards men who plan to or know they won't get laid ever again or at all)



Seriously, if you don't plan on becoming an escortcel and you don't see yourself ever ascending and you don't even trying anymore, why do nofap?

When I start escortcelling regularly and I can afford to do it, I plan on stopping porn completely.......... BECAUSE I'LL HAVE NO NEED FOR IT (the only videos I may still have will be of myself maybe JFL). I actually do plan on doing nofap at least 6 months before I begin to escortcel like this, so I can fully enjoy the experience, but if I never planned on doing anything like this, I'd just jerk off and not bother

I don't understand how this has become a normal train of thought for men, women probably masturbate like crazy, they can have multiple orgasms and keep going so its a longer more enjoyable experience for them, they don't have the same shame and stigma on their "sex toys" like we do and they can very easily satisfy themselves with one more so than we can with a fleshlight (a penis doesn't have vibration settings, and vibrational stimulation affects the clitoris a lot even without direct contact, the same doesn't really apply to a penis)

Do you see any female nofap movements, NO

Do you hear women talking about the magical side effects of masturbating too much, NO




Its all BS driven by shame, truth is, you don't want to stop masturbating because there's a benefit to it, you just want to stop because you feel ashamed for not getting sexual pleasure "the right way", "a man's way", so nofap is like some weird form of penance for a lot of you, punishing yourself for not being able to get a woman, because think about it, with no end goal/release in sight it is nothing but a punishment, because you aren't "training/improving" for any future event

YOU ARE REPRESSING YOURSELF SEXUALLY
FOR THE SAKE OF REPRESSING YOURSELF SEXUALLY


Please tell me how a "porn addiction" is a bad thing for a man who is never going to have sex, if he gets (PIED) "Porn Induced Erectile Dysfunction" and he can only get hard to porn, then how is that a problem for him WHEN HE'LL NEVER HAVE SEX, I'd call that a useful adaptation not a problem, your body is becoming accustomed to what you have access to

PIED is only a problem for married men who become "porn addicts", and those guys are fucking idiots, because you have a wife, you should be fucking her, that's your job, and her job is to fuck you



DOING NOFAP AS A "PERMA-INCEL"

IS LIKE A PERSON WHO WAKES UP IN A WHEELCHAIR NOT BEING ABLE TO WALK AND DECIDES TO DO LUNG CAPACITY TRAINING AND BREATH CONTROL, AS IF THEY ARE GOING TO BE RUNNING OR SWIMMING IN A RACE AT SOME POINT
Coomer. Also masturbation has massive negatives for people with POIS(post orgasmic illness syndrome) which I have.
 
Do you see the contradiction, because its pretty obvious



Again the reason why you "feel worse", is because your ego is staked in some arbitrary concept of a "higher standard", and doing what you consider a "degenerate act" makes you feel less than, like you are failing yourself, that's your ego, to say otherwise is to lie to yourself, degeneracy is about morality, and morality is an aspect of egotistical thought

Like I said in my last thread:






:feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:

Dude I feel like you are doing this on purpose, this thread was basically meant for you, how can you fit to a T so many of the things I pointed out about the way guys like you think



Being passive is a decision, not something forced onto you, you DECIDE to be passive when you masturbate because you hate yourself for masturbating, so you let yourself get walked over, and you DECIDE to not be passive when you don't masturbate, there isn't some magic personality switch in your brain that goes on and off based on when you ejaculate (and only specifically when you ejaculate without a woman present)

So you have like zero self awareness then?, this is the most NPC post I've read on this site - "I have no control, I just happen to to activate passive mode whenever I execute the masturbation function, I can't stop it, its in my code"

Let me guess, if you ejaculated 100 times in a threesome you'd magically get no sideeffects in this case and you wouldn't be left "being passive" afterwards (how convenient that mental gymnastics is)

Its the same BS nofappers say about "energy", sex is a more physically taxing act, yet you don't hear normies complaining about energy levels, whilst you sitting in a chair using only your dominant hand to stroke your dick magically drains you of energy or leaves you "feeling passive", that's BS and you know it

I swear a lot of you guys are the fakest fucks, you come on here talking all this "muh black pill" shit like you are so much more logical than normies and "not emotional like them", when most of you are just illogical ugly normies, you are no different than the NPC's you talk badly about

I'm done responding to this nonsense, don't do it if you don't want to, but at least have logical reasons for it, and if you don't have logical reasons AT LEAST ADMIT THEY AREN'T LOGICAL AND ITS EGO BASED (EMOTIONAL)
Cool. You win. i'm the moron. Why am i even here.
 
Not a word. Hopeful many of us are smart enough to realise that is actually very harmful
 
Coomer. Also masturbation has massive negatives for people with POIS(post orgasmic illness syndrome) which I have.

Are you seriously trying to use an exception to the rule as an argument

Also how are you incel when not having sex is literally to your benefit (based on the symptoms I've heard)?

Why do you even feel like you should be getting sex when you know its just going to make you suffer for a week+?
Let me stop you right there, chief.

Stop me with some actual arguments chief
 
Stop me with some actual arguments chief

That won't work. You're too emotionally invested in your view. Nothing I tell you and say here will influence your viewpoint.

The literature on the negative health effects of porn consumption is there, if you care to research it, but me taking my time and plastering you with links isn't going to do much good, fren.

Just know that I'm telling you as an anonymous brocel who actually gives a damn that too much fapping and porn will fuck you up psychologically and physiologically. Do it only when you absolutely must.
 
If i watch porn then i will go to hell .
 
Are you seriously trying to use an exception to the rule as an argument

Also how are you incel when not having sex is literally to your benefit (based on the symptoms I've heard)?

Why do you even feel like you should be getting sex when you know its just going to make you suffer for a week+?


Stop me with some actual arguments chief
I can do karreza sex which would mean no cooming.
That won't work. You're too emotionally invested in your view. Nothing I tell you and say here will influence your viewpoint.

The literature on the negative health effects of porn consumption is there, if you care to research it, but me taking my time and plastering you with links isn't going to do much good, fren.

Just know that I'm telling you as an anonymous brocel who actually gives a damn that too much fapping and porn will fuck you up psychologically and physiologically. Do it only when you absolutely must.
Yeah cooming is bad but some people don't have as many negatives as others. But many here just do it and won't realize the damage that's done for decafes
 
I can do karreza sex which would mean no cooming.

That's literally just foreplay, I find it amusing that there's this distinctive seperate term for a practice that simply amounts to "foreplay"

Also this sounds like a complete waste of time, imagine that your sex life is literally just cock teasing, like one endless S&M experience of you edging and never coming, seriously holy shit I'd try to find some kind of cure for what you have, because I'd just kill myself otherwise
That won't work. You're too emotionally invested in your view. Nothing I tell you and say here will influence your viewpoint.

JFL nice cop out

The literature on the negative health effects of porn consumption is there, if you care to research it, but me taking my time and plastering you with links isn't going to do much good, fren.

Just know that I'm telling you as an anonymous brocel who actually gives a damn that too much fapping and porn will fuck you up psychologically and physiologically. Do it only when you absolutely must.

You are either an idiot or you didn't read, my point was also that any probable negatives ARE ONLY NEGATIVES IF YOU HAVE A SEX LIFE AT SOME POINT

The entire thread is IF YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO HAVE SEX FROM THIS POINT ON there is no reason not to be a porn addict

Go on moron, tell me about those negatives

Erectile Dysfunction? - DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO HAVE SEX
Extreme Sex Fetishes? - DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO HAVE SEX
Anxiety About Sex? - DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO HAVE SEX

You don't make any arguments, because you know you don't have any valid arguments

If you are never going to have sex, something that negatively impacts you sexually is of no issue

I refer back to my wheelchair analogy:
DOING NOFAP AS A "PERMA-INCEL"

IS LIKE A PERSON WHO WAKES UP IN A WHEELCHAIR NOT BEING ABLE TO WALK AND DECIDES TO DO LUNG CAPACITY TRAINING AND BREATH CONTROL, AS IF THEY ARE GOING TO BE RUNNING OR SWIMMING IN A RACE AT SOME POINT










The whole coomer thing just struck me as a new way of demonising male sexuality, and trying to give women full control over men again with the idea that you should only be allowed to get off if you have approval from a woman

YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MANY TIMES I'VE SAID THIS, AND THE NPC'S ON THIS SITE JUST DON'T GET IT, NOT TOUCHING YOUR DICK IS LIKE A RELIGION TO THESE FOOLS


Nofap is all mental, its all a placebo, and that's why I have to be against no fap, and fervently so, that's why I keep making threads about this BS, because:
NO FAP IS INHERENTLY ANTI MALE AND PRO FEMALE, AND THAT MAKES IT INHERENTLY ANTI BLACK PILL AND ANTI INCEL.

Anyone who is being honest and actually speaking to nofappers, and asking them about how they treat certain acts, can see that its about FEMALE WORSHIP, its about pedestalizing women, making women the gate keepers of men's happiness, no fap is one of the most female empowering cucked practices ever.

Go ahead and ask any nofapper about this and you'll see that they all have this weird contradictory exception, and they all never account for the energy loss of sex, relative to the energy loss from masturbation, they all give eachother that pass, because its NOT ABOUT SELF CONTROL, NO FAP IS ABOUT EGOISM, AND STAKING YOUR EGO ON BEING ABLE TO ATTAIN FEMALE VALIDATION, ITS ABOUT MEN PUNISHING THEMSELVES FOR NOT ATTAINING FEMALE VALIDATION AND GIVING POSITIVE REINFORCEMENT TO EACH OTHER WHEN THEY DO.

NO FAP IS REALLY ABOUT FEMALE VALIDATION AND PEDESTALIZING WOMEN
, its not really about men improving themselves when you look at it for what it is:

Again, if you masturbate (ejaculate) once you've killed your streak and have to start over again, if you instead had a four some and ejaculated ten times that day, these fucking idiots MAGICALLY FORGET ABOUT THEIR "ENERGY LOSS PRINCIPLE" AND THAT GUY GETS A PASS and can continue his streak uninterrupted, its about FEMALE VALIDATION, NOT SELF CONTROL. These guys are coping, and they really just hate themselves for not being able to attain female validation, and nofap is a means of SELF PUNISHMENT so that they can rationalize that self hatred, nofap is like PENANCE FOR MEN WHO FEEL LIKE THEY'VE COMMITTED A SIN BY BEING UNDESIRED BY WOMEN.


Its very blue pilled and inherently cucked. It revolves around a culture promoting male self loathing and male shaming - Biggest example of this that I have seen on nofap forums, is that masturbation is discouraged and shamed, yet if a guy on nofap claims to have sex he doesn't get the same criticism even though he achieved an orgasm, in fact its given a pass and treated as "it doesn't count", and that's because nofap is really about shaming men for not being able to acquire an orgasm (sex) "the right way". Even men who we know full well can't get laid to save their lives.

Nofap is the incarnation of the female mindset into the form of an almost religious practice, shaming low tier males for existing, teaching them to hate themselves and even be disgusted by their own sexuality, and to only make exceptions for men who "do it the right way".

NoFap is dangerous to the incel psyche and teaches men who already hate and want to kill themselves to have another thing about themselves to hate, their very own sexuality.
 
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If i watch porn then i will go to hell .
Too late bro, you're already in hell. Haven't you noticed?
I don't even have the energy to jerk off anymore.
But you're still right at the end of the day.
No point in quitting porn when you wont ever have sex anyway.
/\ this /\

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I think dudes are EMBArrassed, because of social "morals." It's like admitting to failure. Plus, it makes a shy man even shyer.

But BPP's point is legit. Why the fuck not? If it's the only sex you'll ever have then why stop doing it? The whole nofap shit is stupid!

It's like telling yourself, "I don't deserve to have any fun!"

Volcel if you wouldn't!
 
You are either an idiot or you didn't read, my point was also that any probable negatives ARE ONLY NEGATIVES IF YOU HAVE A SEX LIFE AT SOME POINT

The entire thread is IF YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO HAVE SEX FROM THIS POINT ON there is no reason not to be a porn addict

Go on moron, tell me about those negatives

Erectile Dysfunction? - DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO HAVE SEX
Extreme Sex Fetishes? - DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO HAVE SEX
Anxiety About Sex? - DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO HAVE SEX

You don't make any arguments, because you know you don't have any valid arguments

If you are never going to have sex, something that negatively impacts you sexually is of no issue

I refer back to my wheelchair analogy:

You're doing a good job of proving that you're too heavily and emotionally invested in this by calling me an idiot and a moron. That's not a good state that is conducive to being the recipient of reasoning and rational arguments. Anything I say won't be an attempt to convince you of an opposing viewpoint. Like I said, that's going to be a waste of time. What I will do, though, is highlight some of the adverse effects that you may or may not already know, for your own info that you may benefit from (if you stop acting like a bleeding vagina).

Also, I'm not talking about two of those strawman issues that you've propped up to chop down. The one I will address is ED, because the negative effects include the physiological. ED affects your hormone profile and lowers your test, which is responsible for a whole host of positive health benefits (you can look this up for yourself).

Coommaxxing also fucks with your neurochemistry and reward feedback loop. When you fuck a woman and cum your brain also releases oxytocin, which helps reduce stress, which, in turn, does a shit load of good things like improve memory and cognitive performance, and boost your immune system. When you fuck your palm, however, you gain none of the positive health benefits you would from sex and carry all of the negatives like induced fatigue and negative reward conditioning (plus desensitizing your dopamine receptors).

And prostate cancer is a non-issue. The odds of prostate cancer from a lack of ejaculation compared to getting the cancer from bad diet and poor/no exercise is almost negligible.

Like I said, you should only fap if it starts negatively affecting you in other areas of life, like resulting in a lack of focus or increased misplaced aggression. Doing it like a fucking hobby is disastrous.

But hey man, you do you. Or your hand, as it were.
 
Only religious reasons. Everything else is kinda pointless.
 
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Now that were getting down to specifics and not saying vague pointless things, you are going to see how easily your arguments fall apart JFL

You're doing a good job of proving that you're too heavily and emotionally invested in this by calling me an idiot and a moron

Sorry but seeing stupidity everyday becomes annoying, how is one supposed to respond to constant illogical arguments and people giving NPC responses but going on and on about being self aware and "black pilled"?, feels like you are being trolled after some time, its like you guys don't read over your own arguments in your head before posting them, else you'd see the obvious flaws

ED affects your hormone profile and lowers your test, which is responsible for a whole host of positive health benefits (you can look this up for yourself)

I literally just spent some time googling and nothing of what you've said is listed, in fact all articles state the opposite

A bad hormone profile CAUSES ED, its not ED that CAUSES the bad hormone profile

So please link me to one of your sources, because what you are saying just at face value makes no logical sense, and I can't find anything stating it at all, they all state the cause and effect in opposite position (things that cause ED, but not what ED causes)

Really just think about what you're saying, ED means you can't maintain an erection right?, so you aren't going to be able to ejaculate during regular sex............. how is that different from NoFap?

It seems like a ridiculous argument to say that not ejaculating due to nofap causes no harm to your hormone profile AT ALL, but not ejaculating from a psychological block (Porn Induced ED) will affect your hormone profile

That doesn't make sense logically at all, but of course you don't actually think about what you are saying so why would you notice a flaw like that

Coommaxxing also fucks with your neurochemistry and reward feedback loop

Why is this a bad thing?

Why must the rules of the feed back loop with respect to sex be preserved but all others ignored

Think about food, we used to have to hunt, and an essential part of the reward part was the effort we had to put into hunting and gathering (helped keep us "in shape"), but now we just go to grocery stores or fast food places and get instant gratification, why don't you speak of that as a bad thing and stop doing it?

You think our neurochemistry isn't being fucked with by how easily we gain access to so many other various forms of instant gratification, why single out sexual pleasure, what about the pleasure we feel from music (have you ever experienced "frisson", I do when I listen to music and so do many others, look up the term)

What about all the satisfaction we get from entertainment

I refer back to my argument about entertainment:
If you think about it entertainment is an "addiction", its something we do and we crave but we DON'T NEED, we could be bored 24/7 and not die of it, yet we pay money to have access to it in a constant supply, more than we ever pay for porn + masturbation (which is just your internet and electricity bill)

Yet nobody is ever talking about "quitting entertainment", where's that "nofun" movement? JFL

"I've been watching too many movies, tv shows, youtube videos, etc and listening to too much music, podcasts, etc. My brain is "overstimulated" with entertainment and that makes day to day regular interactions and activities feel less than, so I need to cut back on entertainment. Also being entertained takes up free time and keeps me from being forced to pursue other things I could be doing rather than being entertained"

Nobody ever says this shit, but because sex and sexual pleasure is something taboo, we have these weird standards applied to it



When you fuck a woman and cum your brain also releases oxytocin, which helps reduce stress, which, in turn, does a shit load of good things like improve memory and cognitive performance, and boost your immune system

Again another argument with an obvious logical flaw, that for some fucking reason you just can't see (and this is what frustrates me)

If you are going to make the argument that "your body requires X stimuli to have positive effects from sex" then I hope you realize the inherent irony of such a statement, because if those stimuli couldn't be substituted WE LITERALLY COULD NOT MASTURBATE

You would not be able to get erect at an image of breasts, you'd have to have actual breasts in front of you and touch them and know that its there, and only then would your body let you be erect to jerk off

So seeing as our bodies aren't that restrictive and aware, is it not possible to simulate whatever stimuli creates the oxytocin release anyways, in the same way that we simulate sexual interactions and make ourselves ejaculate?

Nah nah, lets not use our brains, lets pretend I didn't just point out the obvious (IF YOU CAN TRICK YOUR BODY INTO CUMMING AS IF YOU ARE HAVING SEX, YOU CAN OBVIOUSLY TRICK YOUR BODY INTO THINKING YOU ARE CUMMING WITH A PARTNER)

When you fuck your palm, however, you gain none of the positive health benefits you would from sex and carry all of the negatives like induced fatigue and negative reward conditioning (plus desensitizing your dopamine receptors)

JFL you guys are a fucking meme - "muh energy levels" strikes again, I've have went around 2 weeks without jerking off and I have went a week where I masturbated 2 times everyday, I experienced no differences in energy levels, because I'm not an idiot who can be placeboed because I lack self awareness

Another thing, the whole "desensitize dompamine receptors" thing I put into question above (it relates to the "feedback loop")

I'm sure you've answered by now, but there's no reason for us to adhere to the loop, there's nothing inherently good or sacred about this specific loop around sex that needs to be adhered to, when as humans WE VIOLATE EVERY OTHER POSITIVE FEEDBACK LOOP AND DESENSITIZE OURSELVES TO OTHER PLEASURES

Also I'm not jerking off 5+ times a day like a retard and expecting not to feel tired, this isn't rocket science, I insult you guys because you are frustratingly stupid

And prostate cancer is a non-issue

So the possibility of prostate cancer is not an issue, but I should starve myself of sexual pleasure to avoid the placebo of "feeling tired"

Prostate CANCER vs Feeling Tired

Yeah you are making a lot of sense now, a lot of logical consistency in this argument

Fucking cancer is no issue, the probability is minuscule so take the risk, go out of your way to deny yourself pleasure because its chances are low, but most importantly to avoid the dreaded terrors of fatigue

But hey man, you do you. Or your hand, as it were.

You may not have prostate cancer yet but you very likely have brain cancer with the elementary arguments you gave, I'm not joking, you literally could have sat for 20 minutes and pulled apart your own arguments if you actually thought them through, so you either disingenouosly posted them anyways hoping I wouldn't see the flaws, or you are so dense you really can't see them
 
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