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Discussion If we don't want youngcels here, how can the blackpill be spread to kids going through adolescence?

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They can just browse the forum and watch FACEandLMS youtube videos.
 
i figured it out when i was 20 they can too
 
They can discover the pill at a later age.

It's risky to introduce this at a young age because "youngcels" often fail to distinguish truceldom from their teenage angst.
 
Black pill for truecels

Red pill for 5+/10 males.

There is no space for "youngcels" who haven't tried
 
That's like asking how do we teach kids how a dildo works. They don't need to know, it's only relevant to adults.

Not even that. It's only relevant to ugly adults.
 
This site should strictly be 18+, when being an incel starts becoming uncommon at your age.
 
They can just browse the forum and watch FACEandLMS youtube videos.
That's like asking how do we teach kids how a dildo works. They don't need to know, it's only relevant to adults.

Not even that. It's only relevant to ugly adults.
This tho some youngcels here are good posters
 
This site should strictly be 18+, when being an incel starts becoming uncommon at your age.
Based I didn't join until a few days after my 18th birthday.

I'm 19 now (look at my join date)
 
That's like asking how do we teach kids how a dildo works. They don't need to know, it's only relevant to adults.

Not even that. It's only relevant to ugly adults.
extreme cope, kids in adolescence are in extremely important developmental years and should be given proper guidance
 
I understand the concern, but it's not angst on my part. I have no friends and girls since elementary have treated me like crap and rejected me. Trust me, if somehow a girl shows interest in me I'll admit you were all right about me not belonging here and never come back.
Why under 18?
Maybe because it's the legal age for adulthood.
 
extreme cope, kids in adolescence are in extremely important developmental years and should be given proper guidance

This isn't proper guidance for children. This is no place for a child. This is a coping mechanism for people who are already fucked up. The goal as a healthy child is to grow up to not need this place.
 
This isn't proper guidance for children. This is no place for a child. This is a coping mechanism for people who are already fucked up. The goal as a healthy child is to grow up to not need this place.
i'm not saying they should post here, I'm saying they need blackpilled info as opposed to bluepilled info
 
i'm not saying they should post here, I'm saying they need blackpilled info as opposed to bluepilled info

They shouldn't post here, they shouldn't come here, they shouldn't know this place exists.
 
Glad I learned about LMS theory when I was 13, I first found out when I lurked on PUAHate. Good times
 
Glad I learned about LMS theory when I was 13, I first found out when I lurked on PUAHate. Good times
How old are you now?

And did you try looksmaxxing from a young age at all? doing anything to boost your SMV?
 
How old are you now?

And did you try looksmaxxing from a young age at all? doing anything to boost your SMV?
I'm 19. Yeah, I tried looksmaxxing as much as I could possibly do. My parents didn't give a shit though, so improving my looks using money was a no (I didn't have allowance). It's probably why I hate my parents, they told me all that matters were my studies and that's about as far as they went with advice. Basically they thought study, graduate, job, wife, family in that order.
 
Like drugs, the blackpill will advertise itself.
 
Got 2 view on this tbh, it's good that they know the true foid nature, how hypergamous entitled previleged cruel eugenicists they are, so they won't grow into simp, but at the same time they are too young to lose hope and still has possibility to ascend due to their bone structure growing and life choices.
 
I'm 19. Yeah, I tried looksmaxxing as much as I could possibly do. My parents didn't give a shit though, so improving my looks using money was a no (I didn't have allowance). It's probably why I hate my parents, they told me all that matters were my studies and that's about as far as they went with advice. Basically they thought study, graduate, job, wife, family in that order.
did you tell them "what about now"?

god parents suck so much it enrages me
 
So many of these “youngcels” are just spoiled Chadlites with helicopter moms and rich dads that always work and are never around, so they never learned any personal responsibility
 
So many of these “youngcels” are just spoiled Chadlites with helicopter moms and rich dads that always work and are never around, so they never learned any personal responsibility
why is every 'fakecel' a chadlite and not a normie?
 
They can discover the pill at a later age.

It's risky to introduce this at a young age because "youngcels" often fail to distinguish truceldom from their teenage angst.

@JohnWickCel
 
did you tell them "what about now"?

god parents suck so much it enrages me
I cannot be bothered with them. My parents, especially my mother is giga bluepilled. Seriously, my mother unironically believed that if I wanted a girlfriend I had to approach one and ask her out for icecream. That's how giga bluepilled my mother is, so yeah they're a liability. Besides they would never loan me money. Believe it or not, the first dollar to my name was given to me last year when I took a job at construction.
 
I cannot be bothered with them. My parents, especially my mother is giga bluepilled. Seriously, my mother unironically believed that if I wanted a girlfriend I had to approach one and ask her out for icecream. That's how giga bluepilled my mother is, so yeah they're a liability. Besides they would never loan me money. Believe it or not, the first dollar to my name was given to me last year when I took a job at construction.
why didn't you "pretend" to ask the girl out, have her say no, and tell your mom?
 
most of them go to looksmax first anyway and they should keep doing that, there's plenty of incels there to serve as a warning of what happens if you believe foids and don't try your hardest in the early years
 
I wasn't even aware of the incel community until I was 25. I did give up hope when I was around 23 but didn't know about the online community.
 
I don't understand why people give so little credit to teenagers when it comes to understanding their social status/potential in the world. Most people by the time they enter high school have some idea of how relationships and society functions even if they can't put it into words. Just because we're experienced enough to analyze these concepts and put them into long essays doesn't mean we weren't able to grasp it in some way when we were younger.

Spreading the blackpill to younger people, be they incel or not, can only be beneficial. It can save them a lot of time and effort that could have been better spent on literally anything else. I myself wish I didn't spend so much time watching YT channels like "Alpha M." and "Based Zeus" which never got me anywhere. If only somebody had given me a little to go on to break my bluepilled social conditioning I would have saved myself a lot of trouble in life.

Make this knowledge common-place. That's the least we can do. Whether or not people use it wisely is up to them.
 
I do think this forum has made my mental state worse, but I was already thinking the stuff I say here before I joined.

It might be the forum, but it's mostly the black pill itself.

Reality is the hardest thing to digest. It's a terrible thing to be made aware of when you're just entering the larger world.

I still believe that you shouldn't be here rotting and instead should be out there trying to live.
 
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They can just browse the forum and watch FACEandLMS youtube videos.
why did @rightfulcel get banned if face is allowed to stay
 
I don't understand why people give so little credit to teenagers when it comes to understanding their social status/potential in the world. Most people by the time they enter high school have some idea of how relationships and society functions even if they can't put it into words. Just because we're experienced enough to analyze these concepts and put them into long essays doesn't mean we weren't able to grasp it in some way when we were younger.

Spreading the blackpill to younger people, be they incel or not, can only be beneficial. It can save them a lot of time and effort that could have been better spent on literally anything else. I myself wish I didn't spend so much time watching YT channels like "Alpha M." and "Based Zeus" which never got me anywhere. If only somebody had given me a little to go on to break my bluepilled social conditioning I would have saved myself a lot of trouble in life.

Make this knowledge common-place. That's the least we can do. Whether or not people use it wisely is up to them.
exactly, teenagers need the blackpill so they can avoid being misled
 
why didn't you "pretend" to ask the girl out, have her say no, and tell your mom?
Because back then I was ashamed of my sexual attraction to girls. Me back then wasn't capable of bringing up girls to my parents, I was very uncomfortable with that topic. It's not like my parents would have helped me. They didn't have the money to throw at me, they didn't even buy Christmas gifts.
 
I don't understand why people give so little credit to teenagers when it comes to understanding their social status/potential in the world. Most people by the time they enter high school have some idea of how relationships and society functions even if they can't put it into words. Just because we're experienced enough to analyze these concepts and put them into long essays doesn't mean we weren't able to grasp it in some way when we were younger.

Spreading the blackpill to younger people, be they incel or not, can only be beneficial. It can save them a lot of time and effort that could have been better spent on literally anything else. I myself wish I didn't spend so much time watching YT channels like "Alpha M." and "Based Zeus" which never got me anywhere. If only somebody had given me a little to go on to break my bluepilled social conditioning I would have saved myself a lot of trouble in life.

Make this knowledge common-place. That's the least we can do. Whether or not people use it wisely is up to them.

It's not that we don't give them credit. It's that the black pill can harm your mental health and development during your impressionable years of becoming an adult.

The black pill is supposed to give context to your teenage and early adult life experiences. It's one of things in life where you have to do it on your own and fail, before being told what's right. But if you don't go through those trials, then learning about the black pill is like reading a really despressing book that makes you want to kill yourself as soon as you finish the book and close the cover.
 
I would say they should at least be out of high school before consuming any blackpilled content.
 
I would say they should at least be out of high school before consuming any blackpilled content.
I wish I was blackpilled from like age 13
 
Teenagers are very fickle and go through many edgy phases.
If there is one thing I noticed it's that teenagers will drop whatever philosophy or outlook they previously claim "is for life" the second they naively see as little as normies treating them okay out of fake politeness and outreach.

That's where all those "How I stopped being incel" teenage posts come from.

Also reaching out to teenagers will get incels accused of grooming.
All male based philosophies, groups and ideologies would do well steering clear of "mentoring" younger generations lest they give more ammo to governments that want to crack down on them for "corrupting" the youth and make it easier for disavowal of those blackpill ideas as a temporary growing up "phase" to profilerate.

Teenage males should figure this stuff out for themselves like they've always done if they think it's going to be applicable to them long term.
A preteen incel could be an 18 year old chad after all and vice versa.
 
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They can discover the pill at a later age.

It's risky to introduce this at a young age because "youngcels" often fail to distinguish truceldom from their teenage angst.
 
Why would you want to spread the blackpill to kids? Those that fail puberty will find themselves here or learning about the blackpill, and those that don't will live in ignorant bliss. Blackpill is not like Christianity. I don't want it to spread. The blackpill finds you, not vice versa.
 
That's like asking how do we teach kids how a dildo works. They don't need to know, it's only relevant to adults.

Not even that. It's only relevant to ugly adults.
The blackpill tells a lot of useful information like how simping doesn't work(is actually counterproductive), and how bullies gets successful while their victims rot. It has many aspects that is worth knowing when you are a kid, and definitely as an adult.
 
It's not that we don't give them credit. It's that the black pill can harm your mental health and development during your impressionable years of becoming an adult.

The black pill is supposed to give context to your teenage and early adult life experiences. It's one of things in life where you have to do it on your own and fail, before being told what's right. But if you don't go through those trials, then learning about the black pill is like reading a really despressing book that makes you want to kill yourself as soon as you finish the book and close the cover.

How do you know it was the blackpill that hurt your mental health and not that your mental health was already hurt from the shitty life experiences that come with being an incel? Maybe it's just experience that learning about the blackpill made life look bleaker, but it was probably on route to be looking that way either way.

People who learn that there is poverty, famine, war, human trafficking, and many other heinous things in the world don't have their mental health hindered just because they know these things exist. The same would occur to youths. If a high-tier normie learns about this he won't be able to relate and probably won't be affected by it, since he will have experienced a completely different world. It's like educating people from first-world countries about how people in sub-saharan Africa live. They get to know that there are people living in completely different conditions than them, but it doesn't really affect them.

I'd rather give people certain people the opportunity to mess up their psyche with the blackpill since they would be the kind of people to find something else as a substitute anyway. You can treat children like children, not teenagers and young adults.

Teenagers are very fickle and go through many edgy phases.
If there is one thing I noticed it's that teenagers will drop whatever philosophy or outlook they previously claim "is for life" the second they naively see as little as normies treating them okay out of fake politeness and outreach.

That's where all those "How I stopped being incel" teenage posts come from.

Also reaching out to teenagers will get incels accused of grooming.
All male based philosophies, groups and ideologies would do well steering clear of "mentoring" younger generations lest they give more ammo to governments that want to crack down on them for "corrupting" the youth and make it easier for disavowal of those blackpill ideas as a temporary growing up "phase" to profilerate.

Teenage males should figure this stuff out for themselves like they've always done if they think it's going to be applicable to them long term.
A preteen incel could be an 18 year old chad after all and vice versa.

Males aren't going to magically figure out this stuff unless they're pushed over the edge and into a community such as this, which won't happen for most indoctrinated normies. The fact is that the sources for learning about blackpilled topics, and tbh reality in general, are quickly becoming scarse. The media is disingenuous and spreads lies, most forms of popular culture do the same, and father figures are becoming few and far between. We need somewhere in the Internet for men who want guidance, but without the ridiculous blue and redpilled lies which are so common.

As to the point of governments cracking down on our groups/ideologies that will happen anyway. Sitting back and doing nothing is not an alternative. Young, disillusioned and ostracized can be the most powerful force in society if they come together, as any person knowledgeable in history would know. I very much doubt that they will completely censor us and make that be the end of it.
 
Males aren't going to magically figure out this stuff unless they're pushed over the edge and into a community such as this, which won't happen for most indoctrinated normies. The fact is that the sources for learning about blackpilled topics, and tbh reality in general, are quickly becoming scarse. The media is disingenuous and spreads lies, most forms of popular culture do the same, and father figures are becoming few and far between. We need somewhere in the Internet for men who want guidance, but without the ridiculous blue and redpilled lies which are so common.
The problem with teaching the blackpill too early is for most males it gets rid of all long term motivation and discipline for the future because whether they are aware of it or not, most males work hard with the hope of being able to get a woman and maybe a family someday.
Take away that motivator or make it clear and convince them that it is unlikely to happen no matter what because of uncontrollable factors stemming from their looks and how attractive they are to women? Then it is very difficult to motivate males to the same extent. All they then have is the real possibility of failure and ending up living paycheck to paycheck as a wageslave or being homeless if they can't even get a job. Still a motivator but only a dismal one only backed up by possibility of failure in life and poverty.
In this society the original motivation for working hard might be gone but that doesn't mean the penalties aren't.
That's why being blackpilled before you are in college is a bad idea imo. Infact perhaps maybe not until you are close to graduating college after being unable to get a woman even though you tried all sorts of things.

As to the point of governments cracking down on our groups/ideologies that will happen anyway. Sitting back and doing nothing is not an alternative. Young, disillusioned and ostracized can be the most powerful force in society if they come together, as any person knowledgeable in history would know. I very much doubt that they will completely censor us and make that be the end of it.
But the thing is the young, disillusioned and ostracized are used to being discarded, coming up short of a real solution and having to constantly reevaluate their position on things numerous times. It wouldn't be any different from how a lot of frustrated white males jumped from PUA redpill philosophy to the alt-right or how celibate males went from redpill self improvement coping to the blackpill. Who is to say in the future something else doesn't come along later that captures their attention and speaks to their experiences better than the blackpill? There's no way to be sure of that.
Also at least some portion of the young, disillusioned and ostracized have the potential to turn against their mentors or people that they previously looked up to when they feel successful living still isn't within their reach. You can see this in how a lot of people here regret wasting their lives on self improvement or going mgtow instead of trying to looksmaxx and sometimes angrily say people that told them to do those things mislead them.

I don't want to be in that position. It's up to teenage males to find out for themselves how to best proceed imo.
 
The blackpill tells a lot of useful information like how simping doesn't work(is actually counterproductive), and how bullies gets successful while their victims rot. It has many aspects that is worth knowing when you are a kid, and definitely as an adult.

We should not be teaching kids that bullying is good and as a victim of bullying your life is doomed to be worse. We should be teaching kids to rise above their hardships.

And "don't simp" isn't a "blackpill tenet," it's common sense. Have some self-esteem and don't be stupid with your money. That's not secret incel wisdom.
 
I’m 17, found out about the blackpill and stuff roughly two years ago. It allowed me to describe with words the mess my life is, so I’m glad I found it this young, avoided me a lot of suffering through not knowing, and probably a lot of weird situations IRL.
 
People who learn that there is poverty, famine, war, human trafficking, and many other heinous things in the world don't have their mental health hindered just because they know these things exist. The same would occur to youths. If a high-tier normie learns about this he won't be able to relate and probably won't be affected by it, since he will have experienced a completely different world. It's like educating people from first-world countries about how people in sub-saharan Africa live. They get to know that there are people living in completely different conditions than them, but it doesn't really affect them.

Maybe you're missing the point, or maybe I'm not fully understsnding yours. It isn't to prevent people from getting black pilled, it's to postpone it until after formative milestones and experiences.

I don't think you truly appreciate the damage of learning a bleak, nihilistic, deterministic outlook on life and its experiences can have on a mind that hasn't had those experiences and naturally yearns for them. Black pilling somebody too early is, in essence, stripping away their hope and installing despair. It can be traumatic.

The black pill is not supposed to be therapeutic or diagnostic. It's supposed to be explanatory, and to an extent, preparatory. Informing somebody why they failed has a much different effect than telling them why they're going to fail before they even try and that they shouldn't try.

I'd rather give people certain people the opportunity to mess up their psyche with the blackpill since they would be the kind of people to find something else as a substitute anyway. You can treat children like children, not teenagers and young adults.

Do you know why experience is the best teacher? It's because you have many other things attached to the knowledge, namely sensory experiences and the memory attached to it. It's not merely words on paper or a screen. When you read a book on archery techniques it's worlds apart from picking up a bow firing the arrow. Upon repeated failures you may decide to look for instructions and read the book to understand what keeps going wrong. But if you read the book first you might get discouraged and not ever bother picking up a bow.

Though the black pill isn't a set of instructions as much as it is a set of truths and basic principles, a similar idea applies. The lessons from the black pill are learned, understood and appreciated much better after the fact.
 
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