Serious If therapy is not the help, what is?

[Blacksmith]

So if there is no help in therapy (like some say) to endure emptiness and lack of potential partners, then what to do?
I am not tired of life at all, but having very low potential of ever finding an attractive woman (in my view) is removing all energy from me.

Never seen any support group for that.

 

[Fantasea]

get used to it

 

[Blacksmith]

get used to it

I am used to it since many years. Does not help.

 

[Animecel2D]

there is no help

 

[Fantasea]

I am used to it since many years. Does not help.

if u don't have natural mental illness pills and therapy are worthless. u have to cope and not consume more blackpills than u need. as u are currently stay away from Inceldom Discussion.

 

[NIGGER BOJANGLES]

if u don't have natural mental illness pills and therapy are worthless. u have to cope and not consume more blackpills than u need. as u are currently stay away from Inceldom Discussion.

Indeed. Just try to enjoy more funny shit in life without dwelling on the depressing parts

I cope with my car hobby, music, food, some tv, and shitposting here

 

[Dr. Autismo]

a waste of time, i only really attend therapy and meetings with my wellbeing coach as a part of my post-sentence supervision conditions

 

[Friezacel]

Sometimes there is no solution

 

[Blacksmith]

Thanks guys! I hear from different people and sources that therapy helps. Maybe there are some factors that come into play here?

 

[ToBurble&Pine]

then what to do?

Rope

 

[Blacksmith]

Since years I really, REALLY could use some good companionship. Sex aside, maybe my first thing I long for.

 

[glassescel]

Never seen any support group for that.

lack of the modern world...

then what to do?

do what you like to do...
Don't think capitalistic, this will make you just depressive.

 

[Blacksmith]

lack of the modern world...

do what you like to do...
Don't think capitalistic, this will make you just depressive.

Thanks. Capitalistic?

 

[laanda]

Thanks guys! I hear from different people and sources that therapy helps. Maybe there are some factors that come into play here?

i hear you can request a new therapist if they do not suit your needs, this would certainly be one of them, though they are not infinite
i have only had 1 therapist for 1 week and he was aware of incels, so simply told me not to complain about such things
great mental health advice, guy whose job it is to help people who are struggling

in general the fact the mental health industry has responded to male loneliness so poorly is a massive mark against them

i am beginning to assume you are not a youngcel. i was going to say that youth therapists are better for this issue than normal therapists as they are at least slightly prepared for the conversation in their education, and taught not to dismiss it outright
if you do raise it, never mention hating foids or they will pivot to that and not help you at all
i would say therapy can help, but it is rare. they have a terrible track record with this issue. a therapist takes most of their training from college, if they went ~5 years ago, they have no preparation for it at all, and are professional bluepillers

tl:dr just raise the issue and if they are not prepared to take it seriously and respect your experiences, request a change in the first session. i remember one user describe it as the thing you have to do if you want a therapist as an incel

 

[BasedGoyslopReviews]

theres no help. Only copes and self-help

big harmacy wants to make you a zombie reliant on meds so they can squeeze out hundreds of dollars from u every year for decades and decades

 

[Blacksmith]

Rope

Nope

 

[Wolnir]

cope till you rope

 

[BasedGoyslopReviews]

if u wanna give therapy a shot again obviously dont go to a foid therapist. Never in their life have they been able to self-insert into a male perspective and really understand what its like. So many social experiments have exposed that.
Get a guy who probably has somewhat related to the male struggle.

 

[fullofchagrin]

So if there is no help in therapy (like some say) to endure emptiness and lack of potential partners, then what to do?
I am not tired of life at all, but having very low potential of ever finding an attractive woman (in my view) is removing all energy from me.

Never seen any support group for that.

ok GrAY

 

[Rapistcel]

So if there is no help in therapy (like some say) to endure emptiness and lack of potential partners, then what to do?
I am not tired of life at all, but having very low potential of ever finding an attractive woman (in my view) is removing all energy from me.

Never seen any support group for that.

It is gay and foid gaslighting

 

[Blacksmith]

i hear you can request a new therapist if they do not suit your needs, this would certainly be one of them, though they are not infinite
i have only had 1 therapist for 1 week and he was aware of incels, so simply told me not to complain about such things
great mental health advice, guy whose job it is to help people who are struggling

in general the fact the mental health industry has responded to male loneliness so poorly is a massive mark against them

i am beginning to assume you are not a youngcel. i was going to say that youth therapists are better for this issue than normal therapists as they are at least slightly prepared for the conversation in their education, and taught not to dismiss it outright
if you do raise it, never mention hating foids or they will pivot to that and not help you at all
i would say therapy can help, but it is rare. they have a terrible track record with this issue. a therapist takes most of their training from college, if they went ~5 years ago, they have no preparation for it at all, and are professional bluepillers

tl:dr just raise the issue and if they are not prepared to take it seriously and respect your experiences, request a change in the first session. i remember one user describe it as the thing you have to do if you want a therapist as an incel

Thanks, this is helpful. Yes, i am a grown man, not teenager. Definitely interacting occasionally with women as a customer, relative, colleague etc. Do not hate most women, but also NOT a bluepill at all.
Probably dark red, bordering black pill.
And so tired of being alone.

 

[glassescel]

Capitalistic

yes, try to find some friends that are very rare, some guys nice to talk.

 

[laanda]

Thanks, this is helpful. Yes, i am a grown man, not teenager. Definitely interacting occasionally with women as a customer, relative, colleague etc. Do not hate most women, but also NOT a bluepill at all.
Probably dark red, bordering black pill.
And so tired of being alone.

 

[Blacksmith]

yes, try to find some friends that are very rare, some guys nice to talk.

Can you please expand? Capitalistic meaning what here?

 

[Blacksmith]

if u wanna give therapy a shot again obviously dont go to a foid therapist. Never in their life have they been able to self-insert into a male perspective and really understand what its like. So many social experiments have exposed that.
Get a guy who probably has somewhat related to the male struggle.

Thanks. Yeah, have a little experience since before.
Male therapist might be better.

 

[glassescel]

Can you please expand? Capitalistic meaning what here?

In our system, we are driven to always be productive, and for that we are rewarded with wages.
We must stop this system from exploiting us and find ourselves again.
Everyone, including you, is driven by capitalist constraints.
Therapists only try to keep you employable, not happy.
The entire system is designed to keep you employable, no matter how you feel, therapist trying to keep the system running if you know what I mean.
They will prescribe you medication that will eventually kill you because of the side effects, but will keep you able to work for a while.

 

[Blacksmith]

cope till you rope

I have no plans to rope. I am the opposite of NEET in some ways, and have some good things in life, but tired, sad and partnerless.

 

[boneless goblin]

self love can't fix anything

 

[justuseless]

Find copes

 

[Shay Patrick Cormac]

Try playing with toys and manchildmaxx

 

[DreamCoper]

That's what this cesspool if for dog

 

[DutchCel01]

there is no help for physical problems.

 

[Blacksmith]

Thanks guys.
But maybe THAT is what to discuss with a therapist; "is it time now to give up?".

 

[glassescel]

But maybe THAT is what to discuss with a therapist; "is it time now to give up?".

did you read what I wrote? they just want keep the system running not more not less.

 

[AtrociousCitizen]

There is no solution, least of all therapy, which is only effective for those whose problems are self-inflicted and trivial.

Support groups don’t exist for us because society thinks we’re the villains, not the victims. If you were a woman crying about loneliness, you'd get sympathy. But you're a man, and unattractive? You're told to "man up" or go to therapy—aka gaslight yourself into believing it's your fault.

The truth is, you are better off coping with escapism or other copes you take pleasure in.

 

[glassescel]

But you're a man, and unattractive? You're told to "man up" or go to therapy—aka gaslight yourself into believing it's your fault.

 

[BasedGoyslopReviews]

if your therapy associated problems are anything other than permanent loneliness induced, go for it i guess.

for a dozen years we have observed, probably since tinder came to be, that all men get if they complain about relationship unfairness, is a spit in the face at best

 

[Dominic Marsden]

A gf is the help

Can't believe i'm the first to say that

 

[Blacksmith]

did you read what I wrote? they just want keep the system running not more not less.

I did read and much appreciate. Not paying (much) for any therapy at the moment. The reason would be to get some external reflection and comments on the idea to (maybe) give up (now).

Ironically we know there IS similar therapy for other life altering traumas, like divorce, death of family members, incurable medical conditions etc. But male loneliness?

 

[Blacksmith]

if your therapy associated problems are anything other than permanent loneliness induced, go for it i guess.

for a dozen years we have observed, probably since tinder came to be, that all men get if they complain about relationship unfairness, is a spit in the face at best

Yes. As men, we can deal with "not fair", but "no chance ever, and no change ever" is a different situation.

 

[ToBurble&Pine]

Nope

Cope then

 

[SilverBullet]

Cope or

 

[Med Anime]

You need accept that youre not going to get a woman is essential
Going against the stream is just going to make you suffer more
Get some copes, get a hobby and center your life around it
In no time you will forget women existed