LifeFuel If the blackpill were entirely true in the West...

[Redbeard7]

Our basic economic and sexual needs would be impossible to fulfil without major criminal risk. But this is not the case:

1. Welfare (enhanced forms of it for non-neurotypicals) is availible. You are probably not forced to choose between wage slavery and criminality.

2. Testosterone-boosters are legal or legally grey. If you suffer from low energy, drive, virility, confidence, self-esteem etc., you can potentially eliminate these problems biochemically.

3. Prostitution is legal or legally grey, sex is a de facto right.

The system tolerates escape hatches. It's a question of whether a man has the will to use them.​

 

[Autist]

1. Welfare (enhanced forms of it for non-neurotypicals) is availible. You are probably not forced to choose between wage slavery and criminality.

How retarded you have to be to receive enough to live without being forced to wage slavery.

2. Testosterone-boosters are legal or legally grey. If you suffer from low energy, drive, virility, confidence, self-esteem etc., you can potentially eliminate these problems biochemically.

It's okay if you want to go bald/have to inject testosterone for the rest of your life like a troon.

3. Prostitution is legal or legally grey, sex is a de facto right.

Better to give what little money you have to a cum bucket so she can live life in tutorial mode.

 

[tulasdanslos]

1. Welfare (enhanced forms of it for non-neurotypicals) is availible. You are probably not forced to choose between wage slavery and criminality.

Not available for even a plurality of non NT people.

2. Testosterone-boosters are legal or legally grey. If you suffer from low energy, drive, virility, confidence, self-esteem etc., you can potentially eliminate these problems biochemically.

Subhuman with more T will still have low confidence and low self-esteem.

3. Prostitution is legal or legally grey, sex is a de facto right.

If this was a valid option all fathers would book one hooker to their teenage sons. It's not just sex it's also a rite of passage that is not present if the foid isn't into you.

 

[Redbeard7]

Not available for even a plurality of non NT people.

Subhuman with more T will still have low confidence and low self-esteem.

If this was a valid option all fathers would book one hooker to their teenage sons. It's not just sex it's also a rite of passage that is not present if the foid isn't into you.

Are you American? In Britain the welfare system is relatively generous, especially if you're non-NT.

I'd be willing to bet that most incels on this forum would not have low confidence or low self-esteem if they did what I outline.

Fathers should do exactly that. The idea she "has to be into you" is low T thinking. And having sex with a hooker as a rite of passage will make you more masculine/attractive than you would otherwise be, long-term virginity is mentally crushing.​

 

[Redbeard7]

How retarded you have to be to receive enough to live without being forced to wage slavery.


It's okay if you want to go bald/have to inject testosterone for the rest of your life like a troon.


Better to give what little money you have to a cum bucket so she can live life in tutorial mode.

Not retarded at all in Britain.

No equivilance. MTF troons inject estrogen to feminise themselves, this is the opposite. You have to eat, drink, sleep, shit and piss for the rest of your life too.

I don't care how she uses the money as long as I benefit and if you want sex that doesn't involve criminality you're going to have to transfer something to the woman.​

 

[Autist]

No equivilance. MTF troons inject estrogen to feminise themselves, this is the opposite. You have to eat, drink, sleep, shit and piss for the rest of your life too.

FTM have to do it. I don't want to depend on a vial of testosterone to be a man for the rest of my life.

Not to mention all the side effects it has. In my case, I have genetic acne, so if I start using testosterone, it will get much worse.

It will also make you infertile, so even if you are lucky enough to ascend, you will not be able to have children.

I don't care how she uses the money as long as I benefit and if you want sex that doesn't involve criminality you're going to have to transfer something to the woman.​

Paying for something that normies get for free is cucked.

 

[Redbeard7]

FTM have to do it. I don't want to depend on a vial of testosterone to be a man for the rest of my life.

Not to mention all the side effects it has. In my case, I have genetic acne, so if I start using testosterone, it will get much worse.

It will also make you infertile, so even if you are lucky enough to ascend, you will not be able to have children.


Paying for something that normies get for free is cucked.

Are you a "man" anyway? If you're an incel then you no doubt feel deeply emasculated. Like all of us I've been damaged by a toxic society and I need chemical help to escape.

I personally don't care about the side effects, I suffer too much now to worry and I suspect they are greatly exaggerated by people who oppose TRT for other reasons.

Normies don't get sex for free, they're always paying for it in some way. Prostitution is the least expensive kind of sex. It's far more cucked to be a permavirgin, especially if you're a porn addict, as most of us are.​

 

[Autist]

Are you a "man" anyway? If you're an incel then you no doubt feel deeply emasculated. Like all of us I've been damaged by a toxic society and I need chemical help to escape.

I personally don't care about the side effects, I suffer too much now to worry and I suspect they are greatly exaggerated by people who oppose TRT for other reasons.

Normies don't get sex for free, they're always paying for it in some way. Prostitution is the least expensive kind of sex. It's far more cucked to be a permavirgin, especially if you're a porn addict, as most of us are.​

I don't feel emasculated, and I'm mentally strong enough to see reality without hiding behind drugs.

I don't have a porn addiction.

Simply that if I'm a 2/10, after using testosterone (I already have good test levels) and going bald, I'll be a 1/10.

Prostitutes often have STDs unless you go for the most expensive ones (if you're on gov NEETbux, I don't think you can afford them).

If I didn't want to die a virgin, it would be as simple as raping like a man and not paying to stick my penis where thousands of other penises have been. Plus if you get caught in my country you will be fined.

 

[IWWorkER]

1. Welfare (enhanced forms of it for non-neurotypicals) is availible. You are probably not forced to choose between wage slavery and criminality.

Not available for many of us, me included.

2. Testosterone-boosters are legal or legally grey. If you suffer from low energy, drive, virility, confidence, self-esteem etc., you can potentially eliminate these problems biochemically.

I don't need that.

3. Prostitution is legal or legally grey, sex is a de facto right.

Wrong it's illegal in many countries, mine included.

 

[Redbeard7]

Not available for many of us, me included.

I don't need that.

Wrong it's illegal in many countries, mine included.

If it's illegal in your country go on holiday or migrate.

 

[psyop]

2. Testosterone-boosters are legal or legally grey. If you suffer from low energy, drive, virility, confidence, self-esteem etc., you can potentially eliminate these problems biochemically.

1. NHS goyim only provide TRT if you’re either a 60 year old that can’t get it up or if you have femboy T levels. The “average” range they use is a fucking joke

2. Say you take matters into your own hands and buy it privately. Test is considered a Class C drug and can land you 2 years in jail if found with it without a prescription. (I still pin it cuz I won’t let Jews cuck me)

And why do you type like this nigger

 

[psyop]

3. Prostitution is legal or legally grey, sex is a de facto right.

British escort scene is disgusting rn. AW and viva are full of old hags and scamming romanians

 

[IWWorkER]

holiday

I wont have other holiday until next summer.

migrate

I would if I could, but I'm too poor right now.

 

[BPmonk]

I see what you mean but these still seem like copes

 

[AtrociousCitizen]

Our basic economic and sexual needs would be impossible to fulfil without major criminal risk. But this is not the case:

1. Welfare (enhanced forms of it for non-neurotypicals) is availible. You are probably not forced to choose between wage slavery and criminality.​

It is difficult to obtain where I live, especially as a man and when you don’t have an ‘overt’ disability. This society would rather see me die on the street than consider the possibility of absolving me from inevitable wageslavery.

2. Testosterone-boosters are legal or legally grey. If you suffer from low energy, drive, virility, confidence, self-esteem etc., you can potentially eliminate these problems biochemically.​

That comes with side-effects, and it won't fix the underlying subhumanity.

3. Prostitution is legal or legally grey, sex is a de facto right.​

Prostitution is illegal for the johns where I live, hence it isn't a viable option, and would likely end with hefty fines and possible jail time. Regardless, I am unwilling to sacrifice my integrity, contributing to the very same degeneracy I despise, all so I can experience a superficial imitation of the real thing for an exorbitant price, especially when that money is funneled right into the hands of a whore, funding her hedonistic lifestyle. I do not see the rationale in paying for a mockery of what other attain for free; it is only sensible when you are interested in losing your virginity, but making it a habitual thing is unacceptable, though I would argue it is impermissible regardless.

 

[SmhChan]

It is difficult to obtain where I live, especially as a man and when you don’t have an ‘overt’ disability. This society would rather see me die on the street than consider the possibility of absolving me from inevitable wageslavery.


That comes with side-effects, and it won't fix the underlying subhumanity.


Prostitution is illegal for the johns where I live, hence it isn't a viable option, and would likely end with hefty fines and possible jail time. Regardless, I am unwilling to sacrifice my integrity, contributing to the very same degeneracy I despise, all so I can experience a superficial imitation of the real thing for an exorbitant price, especially when that money is funneled right into the hands of a whore, funding her hedonistic lifestyle. I do not see the rationale in paying for a mockery of what other attain for free; it is only sensible when you are interested in losing your virginity, but making it a habitual thing is unacceptable, though I would argue it is impermissible regardless.

OP has accepted his role as the trashbin of soyciety. That's why he regards these things as lifefuel.

1. The point of welfare is to keep people sedated and distract them from government corruptions.
2. TRT is cope.
3. Prostitution is consensual. It's not like foids are forced. Escorts apparently reject all the time. Absolute retards these greys are.

 

[Redbeard7]

I don't feel emasculated, and I'm mentally strong enough to see reality without hiding behind drugs.

I don't have a porn addiction.

Simply that if I'm a 2/10, after using testosterone (I already have good test levels) and going bald, I'll be a 1/10.

Prostitutes often have STDs unless you go for the most expensive ones (if you're on gov NEETbux, I don't think you can afford them).

If I didn't want to die a virgin, it would be as simple as raping like a man and not paying to stick my penis where thousands of other penises have been. Plus if you get caught in my country you will be fined.

You don't sound mentally strong to me. If you are so worried about the alleged potential side effects of TRT or being fined or getting an STD from a prostitute then you're not going to have the guts to commit a serious crime. But it's up to you, best of luck.​

 

[Redbeard7]

OP has accepted his role as the trashbin of soyciety. That's why he regards these things as lifefuel.

1. The point of welfare is to keep people sedated and distract them from government corruptions.
2. TRT is cope.
3. Prostitution is consensual. It's not like foids are forced. Escorts apparently reject all the time. Absolute retards these greys are.

1. Keep on slaving away for that very government, wagie. Thanks for your time, energy and freedom
2. Wow! What an argument!
3. You'd quickly find one who'd have sex with you, as long as you have the money and etiquette. Practically everyone on this forum could do it if they weren't depressed

 

[Autist]

You don't sound mentally strong to me. If you are so worried about the alleged potential side effects of TRT or being fined or getting an STD from a prostitute then you're not going to have the guts to commit a serious crime. But it's up to you, best of luck.​

It's about not losing the quality of life I have. I'm not going to add a bunch of problems to my life in exchange for things that bring me absolutely nothing.

 

[Redbeard7]

It is difficult to obtain where I live, especially as a man and when you don’t have an ‘overt’ disability. This society would rather see me die on the street than consider the possibility of absolving me from inevitable wageslavery.


That comes with side-effects, and it won't fix the underlying subhumanity.


Prostitution is illegal for the johns where I live, hence it isn't a viable option, and would likely end with hefty fines and possible jail time. Regardless, I am unwilling to sacrifice my integrity, contributing to the very same degeneracy I despise, all so I can experience a superficial imitation of the real thing for an exorbitant price, especially when that money is funneled right into the hands of a whore, funding her hedonistic lifestyle. I do not see the rationale in paying for a mockery of what other attain for free; it is only sensible when you are interested in losing your virginity, but making it a habitual thing is unacceptable, though I would argue it is impermissible regardless.

"Side-effects"

Overblown and we have very little to lose anyway. You won't know how much it could benefit you until you try.

"Illegal"

Then go on holiday.

Others overwhelmingly do not obtain sex for free, there's always a transaction taking place. This is simple blackpill logic.

Are you asexual? Do you use porn? Or are you content with your imagination and hand?

 

[Redbeard7]

It's about not losing the quality of life I have. I'm not going to add a bunch of problems to my life in exchange for things that bring me absolutely nothing.

Volcel forum.

 

[Redbeard7]

I see what you mean but these still seem like copes

Define cope in this context.

 

[SmhChan]

Keep on slaving away for that very government, wagie. Thanks for your time, energy and freedom

Moron! I'd happily slave for a government that could pay me enough to buy a house and give me job security.

Wow! What an argument!

Yeah! Ogre Rogan's wife is with him because he regularly takes TRT.

You'd quickly find one who'd have sex with you, as long as you have the money and etiquette. Practically everyone on this forum could do it if they weren't depressed

Should be a worthy statement. But we know how this forum is like.

 

[Redbeard7]

1. NHS goyim only provide TRT if you’re either a 60 year old that can’t get it up or if you have femboy T levels. The “average” range they use is a fucking joke

2. Say you take matters into your own hands and buy it privately. Test is considered a Class C drug and can land you 2 years in jail if found with it without a prescription. (I still pin it cuz I won’t let Jews cuck me)

And why do you type like this nigger

"Test is considered a Class C drug"

Sacre bleu!

 

[Redbeard7]

Moron! I'd happily slave for a government that could pay me enough to buy a house and give me job security.

Yeah! Ogre Rogan's wife is with him because he regularly takes TRT.

Should be a worthy statement. But we know how this forum is like.

A house lmao. One you'll be dying alone in.

Ok...so he's got a woman by your logic because he takes TRT

It's the truth, no matter how you feel about it as a good goy wageslave

 

[Redbeard7]

British escort scene is disgusting rn. AW and viva are full of old hags and scamming romanians

I wasn't thinking about the domestic scene personally.

 

[AtrociousCitizen]

"Side-effects"

Overblown and we have very little to lose anyway. You won't know how much it could benefit you until you try.

Hormonal imbalances, cardiovascular strain, infertility, potential psychiatric effects. I am not willing to gamble my health on a temporary and superficial relief — that won't even fix my actual problems.

"Illegal"

Then go on holiday.

That's merely a temporary solution.

Others overwhelmingly do not obtain sex for free, there's always a transaction taking place. This is simple blackpill logic.

Are you asexual? Do you use porn? Or are you content with your imagination and hand?

That other people habitually trade money for intimacy does not change the ethical and personal cost for me. I refuse to fund the very degeneracy I despise, or to normalize behavior that is degrading.

Just because the majority accept a transaction doesn’t mean it’s morally or strategically acceptable. Besides, saying a transaction 'always' takes place is inaccurate, that is, unless you consider physical appearance as a transaction, but as far as I am concerned, it is simply incomparable, for it evokes genuine desire, and does not involve anything past the individual and their essence. Even if genuine desire cannot be obtained, I sure as hell won't pay a whore for an imitation.

 

[Redbeard7]

Hormonal imbalances, cardiovascular strain, infertility, potential psychiatric effects. I am not willing to gamble my health on a temporary and superficial relief — that won't even fix my actual problems.


That's merely a temporary solution.


That other people habitually trade money for intimacy does not change the ethical and personal cost for me. I refuse to fund the very degeneracy I despise, or to normalize behavior that is degrading.

Just because the majority accept a transaction doesn’t mean it’s morally or strategically acceptable. Besides, saying a transaction 'always' takes place is inaccurate, that is, unless you consider physical appearance as a transaction, but as far as I am concerned, it is simply incomparable, for it evokes genuine desire, and does not involve anything past the individual and their essence. Even if genuine desire cannot be obtained, I sure as hell won't pay a whore for an imitation.

The only solutions are temporary as life is temporary. Death is the only guarentee. A happy lifelong monogamous relationship with a woman who you mutually lost your virginity with is fantasy land.

I've lived enough shit years, I'd rather have some good ones than 50 more equal or worse than the first 30. I wouldn't want to live the last 10 years of my life over again unchanged, or the 10 before that, so what value does this time have if I don't enjoy it?

I also think the experiences I have on TRT could change me for the better as long as things last. Virginity, long-term celibracy; I suspect this is crushing for almost any man, certainly for me. TRT will give me the boost I need to do things I have been unable to do due to prior damage.

I do consider sex on the basis of physical appearance a form of transaction, yes. But It's not beneficial to worry about her desire. For one thing, I don't think women feel that way about me, even if they like certain aspects of me. For another, desire can be faked and you can't read their mind. Also, there's an irony here: women would be more likely to feel desire for you if you were higher T and sexually experienced.

You didn't answer my question about porn. Do you practice what you preach when it comes to "ethics" and "degeneracy"? I'm not a moral puritan, I think it's opposed to nature and self-sabotaging. And sometimes an excuse for a lack of bravery.​

 

[ManOfVengeance]

Our basic economic and sexual needs would be impossible to fulfil without major criminal risk. But this is not the case:

1. Welfare (enhanced forms of it for non-neurotypicals) is availible. You are probably not forced to choose between wage slavery and criminality.

2. Testosterone-boosters are legal or legally grey. If you suffer from low energy, drive, virility, confidence, self-esteem etc., you can potentially eliminate these problems biochemically.

3. Prostitution is legal or legally grey, sex is a de facto right.

The system tolerates escape hatches. It's a question of whether a man has the will to use them.​

Self confidence cannot merely be solved via testosterone boosters alone.

I cannot afford prostitutes nor is it legal where I live.

The system is maladaptive and must be replaced with shariah law.

 

[ManOfVengeance]

I would also like to ask how this has any correlation to the blackpill.
This isn't specifically blackpill itself but inceldom which are two different things.
Albeit some systems may offer "escape hatches" but that varies and is dependent on whether or not you are financially eligible furthermore location also being a prerequisite that must be met first before you can even think about ascension.

 

[Redbeard7]

I would also like to ask how this has any correlation to the blackpill.
This isn't specifically blackpill itself but inceldom which are two different things.
Albeit some systems may offer "escape hatches" but that varies and is dependent on whether or not you are financially eligible furthermore location also being a prerequisite that must be met first before you can even think about ascension.

The blackpill in its “pure” form = absolute determinism. No escape, everything is rigged by genetics and society, you’re doomed.

if blackpill were entirely true in the West, these escape hatches (welfare, TRT, prostitutes) wouldn’t exist. Men would be economically strangled, biologically trapped and sexually locked out with no alternative except crime or death.​

 

[ManOfVengeance]

The blackpill in its “pure” form = absolute determinism. No escape, everything is rigged by genetics and society, you’re doomed.

if blackpill were entirely true in the West, these escape hatches (welfare, TRT, prostitutes) wouldn’t exist. Men would be economically strangled, biologically trapped and sexually locked out with no alternative except crime or death.​

Atleast under my predicament that it's entirely true to it's extent.

 

[BPmonk]

Define cope in this context.

Welfare, testosterone boosters, and prostitutes, are basically just artificial substitutes for real-world things that we can't authentically achieve through the natural course of life like having a stable, steady paying job, good enough genetics to not have to worry about testosterone boosters or having access to a diet that isn't overly processed goyslop that interferes with our hormones and being able to attract women that are actually interested in us. Even though the things you listed are escape hatches, the fact that we have to mimic the things that normies get to enjoy naturally is still hard to cope with psychologically because it will never feel truly real, ya know?

 

[Redbeard7]

Welfare, testosterone boosters, and prostitutes, are basically just artificial substitutes for real-world things that we can't authentically achieve through the natural course of life like having a stable, steady paying job, good enough genetics to not have to worry about testosterone boosters or having access to a diet that isn't overly processed goyslop that interferes with our hormones and being able to attract women that are actually interested in us. Even though the things you listed are escape hatches, the fact that we have to mimic the things that normies get to enjoy naturally is still hard to cope with psychologically because it will never feel truly real, ya know?

"stable, steady paying job"

You're overrating wageslavery, which is itself an artificial substitute for earlier, less technological modes of subsistence.

"good enough genetics to not have to worry"

This is not a problem specific to incels, average T has been falling for generations:

Testosterone is declining among young men. Why?

A recent study found that testosterone levels are declining among young men. We take a look at the research, testosterone’s role in health, and potential reasons behind the decline.

www.givelegacy.com

"being able to attract women that are actually interested in us"

Most men struggle with this and a woman's interest is transactional/fleeting. Sex with a prostitute (the oldest profession) is much more real than watching sex on a screen or using one's imagination.​