If Nature is so Deterministic, Then Why is it so Painful?

[Frottbott]

First, I want to apologize to a few people for getting into conspiracy/science debates a bit. I disagree with a lot of geneticists and the scientific community but I'll just leave it at that and never bring it up w/ these people again. I'm not here to debate that stuff, I spent my early 20s doing that and I don't enjoy it.

Ok, so here is the premise. Grass does not feel pain, but it gets trampled on to the point of death very, very often. So why doesn't grass feel pain? BECAUSE IT CAN'T FUCKING MOVE. There is no point, because pain is a call to action! (if you believe in evolution). Pain is that sensation that says, 'hey buddy, if you don't change something in your immediate environment, your genetics are not going to be passed on.

So why is it so fucking painful being an Incel if it's pre-determined and I can do nothing about it? This is why I got into PUA in the first place, because it made so much sense from a genetics standpoint that women would be attracted to behavior and status. Genetically speaking, pain should only exist if it is an avoidable situation, otherwise its' a hindrance. So why does it hurt so fucking much? Nature cannot, according to evolutionary logic, go out of its' way to make people suffer needlessly, because it will not benefit the genetics. Sex and love are great. Is this extent of pain really needed as a motivator? And a motivator to do what? I just wasted 31 years of my life working my ass off to be rated a 2.4/10 in attractiveness, a 1.7 on trustworthiness, and a 2.6 on intelligence. Clearly developing all of these qualities did nothing.

 

[The End]

Yes, the pain is a motivator. If you're fully motivated, but still can't succeed, then it sucks to be you. You let down your ancestors.

I know how you feel though. I ask myself incessantly, "Why do I want what I can't have? Why do I have to do things I don't want to?"

It just goes to show how sloppy evolution is.

 

[Deleted member 5861]

Mother nature is the ultimate bitch. It is the last stage in swallowing the blackpill.

 

[Mahlo]

First of all, Evolutionary Theory assumes the existence of "random" mutations caused by natural DNA damage. Secondly, pain is the impetus to action. It alerts us to damage or maybe incentives it. There is a series of complex physio-chemical responses which turn pain into movement in mammals, only because this complex array serves a purpose - to move you from danger. The danger is avoidable. You could say nothing is avoidable because everything is pre-determined, but we think of things not always in terms of counter-factuals. The moon "avoids" crashing into the earth by virtue of its orbit, even if its orbit is totally explainable via newtonian mechanics.

Evolution does not predict the future and has no knowledge of it. In fact, it isn't a person at all, even if we find it useful to talk about it like that. It produces a selection of creatures, some have useful mutations, some not - and from that the bodies of future generations are chosen.

Also, evolution has no incentive to make your life good. It's only "goal" is genetic output. If an animal outputs more from being in excruciating pain, that selection of genes will be passed on.

 

[SubhumanMonster]

First of all, Evolutionary Theory assumes the existence of "random" mutations caused by natural DNA damage. Secondly, pain is the impetus to action. It alerts us to damage or maybe incentives it. There is a series of complex physio-chemical responses which turn pain into movement in mammals, only because this complex array serves a purpose - to move you from danger. The danger is avoidable. You could say nothing is avoidable because everything is pre-determined, but we think of things not always in terms of counter-factuals. The moon "avoids" crashing into the earth by virtue of its orbit, even if its orbit is totally explainable via newtonian mechanics.

Evolution does not predict the future and has no knowledge of it. In fact, it isn't a person at all, even if we find it useful to talk about it like that. It produces a selection of creatures, some have useful mutations, some not - and from that the bodies of future generations are chosen.

Also, evolution has no incentive to make your life good. It's only "goal" is genetic output. If an animal outputs more from being in excruciating pain, that selection of genes will be passed on.

High iq post on a low iq thread.

 

[incel-american]

Because you are a like a horse getting whipped to get you to move.

 

[Frottbott]

High iq post on a low iq thread.

You're just mad because you're not as smart as me.