Discussion If a person is arrested for looking at child porn because it’s illegal, shouldn’t it be a criminal offense to look at videos of someone being killed?

[Personalityinkwell]

So if there isn't, I don't have a good reason to have my car filled with guns.

depends where you live, it's your right to have your car filled with guns in the USA

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

depends where you live, it's your right to have your car filled with guns in the USA

in cambodia and north korea all guns are banned

 

[Deleted member 18193]

and also the idea that we should execute those who view it is dumb

It's the "harsh punishment" incentive idea that they think will make people stop, when in reality people will always find more clever ways.

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

It's the "harsh punishment" incentive idea that they think will make people stop, when in reality people will always find more clever ways.

yep and plus all they did was watch videos so killing them is pretty excessive

 

[NormScum]

There is no business that makes gore and murder videos for money though. There is for child porn

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

There is no business that makes gore and murder videos for money though. There is for child porn

Most cp is amateur actually

 

[TINMAN]

All the people I've seen here who defend the criminalization of simple possession of CP downloaded for free from the internet, but not of gore, have basically two flaws in their argument:

1) they think the intentions of the people who produced the media, or those of the ones who downloaded it, must be taken into consideration for whether or not criminalization of simple possession of media downloaded for free from the internet should take place. So, according to their logic, if the criminal didn't want attention, you can watch the media for free; if he wanted, you can't. If you're watching to fap to it, you can't; if not, you can. THESE SHOULD NOT BE RELEVANT REASONS WHETHER OR NOT TO BAN SIMPLE POSSESSION OF MEDIA DOWNLOADED FROM THE INTERNET AT ALL.

If I download a picture of you from Facebook and use it to print it, glue it to a punching bag and hit your face printed on it, should I be jailed for the simple possession of the picture of you I downloaded for free from Facebook? THIS SHIT MAKES NO SENSE, GOD, THINK STRAIGHT.

If I film myself punching someone in the face, say "I'M DOING THIS FOR THE PLEASURE OF SADISTS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD, ENJOY!", upload it to the internet and someone downloads it for free and watches it, should this person who just downloaded it for free be jailed? IT. SIMPLY. MAKES. NO. SENSE.

2) on top of it, they ASSUME the intentions of people who downloaded that types of media. "Everyone who downloaded CP did it to fap to it and is a pedo and a potential risk to society" / "Everyone who downloaded gore did it just because they're curious and mean no threat". HOW CAN YOU FUCKING KNOW? Seriously, how can you? What if the person who downloaded CP did it out of curiosity, what if the person who downloaded gore is plotting to commit a violent crime and downloaded it to learn torture and murder techniques?

I think the main idea behind criminalizing the possession of CP is that they don't want it to exist anywhere, same as how if you ban drugs or guns you will arrest people who have them in their possession. It's more of a matter of practicality than anything, it's already hard enough for them to detect the people who have it as it is, it would be much harder to prosecute if you added on having to prove that they were planning to distribute it.

To be honest I think the distribution and collection of gore videos should be prohibited the same as CP outside of people involved in law enforcement, only sick fucks would want to watch that shit anyway. As long as it involves an actual person dying, it should be illegal to collect or distribute.

 

[Mainländer]

I think the main idea behind criminalizing the possession of CP is that they don't want it to exist anywhere, same as how if you ban drugs or guns you will arrest people who have them in their possession. It's more of a matter of practicality than anything, it's already hard enough for them to detect the people who have it as it is, it would be much harder to prosecute if you added on having to prove that they were planning to distribute it.

To be honest I think the distribution and collection of gore videos should be prohibited the same as CP outside of people involved in law enforcement, only sick fucks would want to watch that shit anyway. As long as it involves an actual person dying, it should be illegal to collect or distribute.

Consistent, understandable position.

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

Consistent, understandable position.

some people only think with emotion on this topic

 

[Mainländer]

some people only think with emotion on this topic

Tbh. But I honestly gave up on that discussion. There are certain dogmas people won't ever let go of no matter how much logic you throw at them.

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

Tbh. But I honestly gave up on that discussion. There are certain dogmas people won't ever let go of no matter how much logic you throw at them.

its because they're afraid to look at it differently. the only topic the internet is overly sensitive about is pedophilia

 

[Mainländer]

its because they're afraid to look at it differently. the only topic the internet is overly sensitive about is pedophilia

There are also things like race, but pedophilia even more.

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

There are also things like race, but pedophilia even more.

i could say some 17 year olds look 21 and feminazis would just go REEEEEEEE

 

[Mainländer]

i could say some 17 year olds look 21 and feminazis would just go REEEEEEEE

One could say "I get a spontaneous, uncontrolled, rush of blood towards my cavernous bodies when I see some scantily clothed underage teenagers on the streets" and they'd be like "gross, that guy deserves to be jailed".

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

Child porn is illegal because it supports an illegal industry. You're aiding child pornography by being patron to it. Or at least that's what they're trying to prevent.

Agree, but what about ISIS getting a hard on from people watching their videos, so are encouraged to make more?

 

[mentally lost cel 1]

Murder videos are for sick sonsabitches

 

[FrothySolutions]

Agree, but what about ISIS getting a hard on from people watching their videos, so are encouraged to make more?

We do try to stop the spread of ISIS recruitment and its videos. But if it gets to the point where Americans are so radicalized that they're signing up left and right to join ISIS, maybe sharing ISIS videos will also be punishable. If it isn't punishable already.

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

One could say "I get a spontaneous, uncontrolled, rush of blood towards my cavernous bodies when I see some scantily clothed underage teenagers on the streets" and they'd be like "gross, that guy deserves to be jailed".

I could show studies confirming attraction to teens is normal and they’d do mental gymnastics to “debunk” it

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

I could show studies confirming attraction to teens is normal and they’d do mental gymnastics to “debunk” it

that profile pic and that statement together take on a whole new meaning.

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

that profile pic and that statement together take on a whole new meaning.

Ed Kemper?