Experiment If a normal man loses or never had his dick function is he then an incel?

[RageAgainstTDL]

Let's say you have an otherwise normal 5/10 guy in two circumstances:

1. Never had proper dick function, can't do PIV sex or any sex at all really (eg. total impotence).
2. Had proper dick function for part of his life, but then develops ED or some other dick problem and can no longer have any sex at all.

Let's say in both cases he is still normal looking and normal socially, so he can get dates online, but no longer sees any point in bothering because he can't have sex and it will always ends in disappointment.

In each case is he what you would call an "incel"? Why or why not?

I would say in both cases he is incel because if you don't have basic dick function, you can't have sex, and that's that. But I see a lot of people on here always trying to set up reasons and gatekeep for why you can only be incel in very specific circumstances, so I'm curious.

Follow up: Let's say this guy in both cases creates an account here and explains his situation. Would you think he should be banned for "bragging" if he explains what makes him incel and how it affects him?

 

[Deleted member 15752]

Yes, because he cannot have sexual intercourse or contact. So by definition he is a incel.

Now if he is successful to find a relationship but cannot have intercourse... thats a sticky one. Im not sure.

 

[Deleted member 16809]

He would technically fall under this definition, so yes, but he is not "involuntary subhuman" if he still has the ability to attract the opposite gender (like if we remove the dick out of the equation).

 

[Deleted member 677]

He can still eat foids out. Volcel.

 

[Twinkcel]

I don’t think he is unless he desire physical contact and couldn’t get it.

 

[Deleted member 60]

yes in the first example because he will never know what it's like to have sex. The second guy might have some past experience, so he's not technically incel.

 

[Glucose]

He falls under the legitimate definition of 'incel', someone who can't have sex despite wanting it. However if he can still find love, he doesn't really fit under the new definition of 'incel' that many of us use; "a man who cannot find a romantic relationship despite wanting one." So really it depends on what you define an incel as.

 

[ordinaryotaku]

Yes, because he cannot have sexual intercourse or contact. So by definition he is a incel.

Now if he is successful to find a relationship but cannot have intercourse... thats a sticky one. Im not sure.

Yeah, that would be the part where I wouldn't know what to say.

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

yes in the first example because he will never know what it's like to have sex. The second guy might have some past experience, so he's not technically incel.

Does past experience prevent one from being an incel going forward? One can exaggerate that situation in any number of ways. Let's say a man was a GigaChad before but then he gets his dick and limbs blown off in combat and his face burned so bad he's a 1/10 now and women puke just looking at him. He can't get dates. He can't get love. He can't get sex. Did he not then become an incel?

 

[Deleted member 60]

Does past experience prevent one from being an incel going forward? One can exaggerate that situation in any number of ways. Let's say a man was a GigaChad before but then he gets his dick blown off in combat and his face burned so bad he's a 1/10 now and women puke just looking at him. He can't get dates. He can't get love. He can't get sex. Did he not then become an incel?

I would not consider him an incel if he had sex in the past. He's a blackpilled normie IMO

 

[Insomniac]

Yes bro, he can’t have sex so it’s pretty self explanatory.

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

I would not consider him an incel if he had sex in the past. He's a blackpilled normie IMO

You're talking about what it means to be a virgin. Not an incel.

 

[Deleted member 60]

You're talking about what it means to be a virgin. Not an incel.

You're not incel if you have sex.

 

[mybodyisrotting]

You're not incel if you have sex.

What about escortcels?

 

[Hate_my_life]

You're not incel if you have non-monetary-transactional sex.

What about escortcels?

Fixed.

inb4 "hurr durr, paying for a foid's food is like spending money for sex"

 

[KilluminoidBR]

OFC yes.

Doesnt matter even if your face is 8/10, if you dont have a penis you cannot have sex so you are incel.

 

[mybodyisrotting]

hurr durr, paying for a foid's food is like spending money for sex

 

[Deleted member 60]

What about escortcels?

they're not incel either. Celibacy = no sex.
It's really simple. No need for mental gymnastics.

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

Fukmylyf: This doesn't make any sense at all so i'm not going to waste time arguing about it. A man who has no dick no limbs and a 1/10 burned face is absolutely incel and there should be no debate about that. Who he was 10 years prior has no bearing on the present circumstances and whether or not he can get a girl or sex now.

 

[KilluminoidBR]

they're not incel either. Celibacy = no sex.
It's really simple. No need for mental gymnastics.

Yes escortcels are not incels, the only incel here is you who get approached by females in clubs.

 

[Deleted member 60]

a goodlooking virgin is more incel than an ugly subhuman who gets laid once a year. I understand this is an unpopular opinion, but I stand by it.

 

[mybodyisrotting]

they're not incel either. Celibacy = no sex.
It's really simple. No need for mental gymnastics.

I guess it's all about whether you subscribe to sex-centric, attraction-centric or relationship-centric definition of inceldom.
I suspect that the division might eventually cause a split in the community tbh

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

He falls under the legitimate definition of 'incel', someone who can't have sex despite wanting it. However if he can still find love, he doesn't really fit under the new definition of 'incel' that many of us use; "a man who cannot find a romantic relationship despite wanting one." So really it depends on what you define an incel as.

Yeah, that would be the part where I wouldn't know what to say.

Likely in this scenario he couldn't find a relationship because women would dump him after they find out about his broken dick.

But either way, there are basically two ways one can be incel:

• wanting a romantic & sexual non-paying relationship but unable to get it.
• wanting a sexual non-paying relationship but unable to get it.

But getting sexual contact as part of the deal is a necessity by definition because of the "celibate" term.

If a man has a romantic relationship but can't have sex despite wanting to by definition he is an involuntary celibate.

If you disagree you need a new label for what you want to discuss than "incel".

 

[Smallondick]

I have no doubt yes!

OFC yes.

Doesnt matter even if your face is 8/10, if you dont have a penis you cannot have sex so you are incel.

 

[Hate_my_life]

This doesn't make any sense at all so i'm not going to waste time arguing about it.

What doesn't make sense? That escortcels are Incels?

I'm not denying that

A man who has no dick no limbs and a 1/10 burned face is absolutely incel

He's obviously an incel, because he involuntarily can not have sex. Being an incel isn't related to past events, I believe it revolves on the present situations which the male faces as to whether he's an Incel or not.

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

What doesn't make sense? That escortcels are Incels?

I'm not denying that

He's obviously an incel, because he involuntarily can not have sex. Being an incel isn't related to past events, I believe it revolves on the present situations which the male faces as to whether he's an Incel or not.

Sorry I wasn't talking to you. I meant to fukmylyf. Everything you just said is correct.