I wonder if ditching capitalism would stop mass immigration

[Hoppipolla]

idk. Probably not. But it just seems to me that it benefits big business a lot more than it benefits the state.

Business is an amazing thing but... it wants cheap labour and I don't think it particularly cares if the net effect on society of mass immigration is negative.

 

[retardfuel30]

The only thing that would stop mass migration would be to take away foids rights and turn them into human incubators. But our soyciety is cucked beyond belief so we’re pretty much fucked

 

[PURE ANUS]

Listen closely.
The issue is this
“immigration is an injected idea into the left, that its true reasoning is to “help people” (people who are poor due to imperialism)
and Poor rightoids who Vote right cuz muh “anti migration”, unfortunately also means the classists get voted in.

Cut the snakes head. by killing capitalism/impearialism. Blllaaaaa fucking blaaaaa this world will burn and ill arise ontop of it fuck you all

 

[Deleted Member 8090]

99.9% of leftist are also in favor of mass immigration and anti whiteness. Immigration isn't an economic issue, it just happens to have economic effects (enriching certain people and impoverishing whites). Immigration is really a racial issue, the reason it's being pushed non-whites into white countries is so that white nations cannot exist anymore, that's the explicit stated goal of many of its supporters. Make whites minority of the population, minority of the votes, minority of the army, police, exc and at the end they can have a total white genocide.

 

[Zionist]

The only thing that would stop mass migration would be to take away foids rights and turn them into human incubators. But our soyciety is cucked beyond belief so we’re pretty much fucked

 

[Zionist]

99.9% of leftist are also in favor of mass immigration and anti whiteness. Immigration isn't an economic issue, it just happens to have economic effects (enriching certain people and impoverishing whites). Immigration is really a racial issue, the reason it's being pushed non-whites into white countries is so that white nations cannot exist anymore, that's the explicit stated goal of many of its supporters. Make whites minority of the population, minority of the votes, minority of the army, police, exc and at the end they can have a total white genocide.

Just take women's rights away, don't let em leave the house, men need to stand up and fight.

 

[Q. H. Cooks]

It probably would, since communism leads to a fucked up economy no one wants to move to. But it's too late now, since all white countries are already full of nonwhite immigrants and they won't all leave once communism gets implemented. Also communists and leftists in general encourage racemixing and the extinction of pure European people.

 

[Caesercel]

Mass Immigration to....where? To Americas, it won't stop for centuries, period. It could stop in Europe though, if ending capitalism also comes with solving brutal wars over oil and third world poverty in general but that's a long shot. But then europe will also have to take care of it's dwindling population somehow. Does ending capitalism solve that?

 

[Pikacel]

Listen closely.
The issue is this
“immigration is an injected idea into the left, that its true reasoning is to “help people” (people who are poor due to imperialism)
and Poor rightoids who Vote right cuz muh “anti migration”, unfortunately also means the classists get voted in.

Cut the snakes head. by killing capitalism/impearialism. Blllaaaaa fucking blaaaaa this world will burn and ill arise ontop of it fuck you all

Yep right wing wants ‘harder working migrants’ left wing wants ‘to save the poor refugee ;(‘

 

[LeFrenchCel]

Realistically, establishing a communist government in your country would cause mass exodus from ppl who want to keep being slaves to das kapital.

Meaning that you may have to resort to immigration at some point to counter this exodus.

That's a problem we have to find a solution to

 

[kevkon]

idk. Probably not. But it just seems to me that it benefits big business a lot more than it benefits the state.

Business is an amazing thing but... it wants cheap labour and I don't think it particularly cares if the net effect on society of mass immigration is negative.

The problem is that the left will always advocate for open borders because they know immigrants overwhelmingly vote left, and the immigrants overwhelmingly vote left because they know the left pushes for open borders, and so on and so fourth. It’s just a massive positive feedback loop.

 

[kevkon]

Yep right wing wants ‘harder working migrants’ left wing wants ‘to save the poor refugee ;(‘

There is a third option…

 

[kevkon]

Mass Immigration to....where? To Americas, it won't stop for centuries, period. It could stop in Europe though, if ending capitalism also comes with solving brutal wars over oil and third world poverty in general but that's a long shot. But then europe will also have to take care of its dwindling population somehow. Does ending capitalism solve that?

Make more babies ? There’s plenty of ways you can incentivize this without relying on immigration, Nazi Germany had a great policy to encourage child birth and large families with many children. Capitalism is irrelevant to that, the economic system isn’t the root cause.

 

[kevkon]

Just take women's rights away, don't let em leave the house, men need to stand up and fight.

Modern men are too cucked to fight

 

[kevkon]

99.9% of leftist are also in favor of mass immigration and anti whiteness. Immigration isn't an economic issue, it just happens to have economic effects (enriching certain people and impoverishing whites). Immigration is really a racial issue, the reason it's being pushed non-whites into white countries is so that white nations cannot exist anymore, that's the explicit stated goal of many of its supporters. Make whites minority of the population, minority of the votes, minority of the army, police, exc and at the end they can have a total white genocide.

 

[Zionist]

Modern men are too cucked to fight

Then we accept defeat and die.

 

[kevkon]

Then we accept defeat and die.

Doomer moment.

 

[Zionist]

Doomer moment.

If we keep this defeat mentality, it's truly over, can't we gather 1 million incels? And start a coup?

 

[Pikacel]

Modern men are too cucked to fight

Tbh don’t underestimate modern males

Loads of awkward incels (+ fag zoomers) somehow mustered the balls to go ER. Just hypothetically assemble an organisation of those types of people in Ragnarok Online and ur good

 

[kevkon]

If we keep this defeat mentality, it's truly over, can't we gather 1 million incels? And start a coup?

It’s hard to organize. And most people won’t act until or unless they start to see others act which is just a negative feedback loop.

 

[Zionist]

It’s hard to organize. And most people won’t act until or unless they start to see others act which is just a negative feedback loop.

Let's all move to north Korea and marry chinks, last resemblance of the old world

 

[kevkon]

Tbh don’t underestimate modern males

Loads of awkward incels (+ fag zoomers) somehow mustered the balls to go ER. Just hypothetically assemble an organisation of those types of people in Ragnarok Online and ur good

We are sorta in a “weak men create hard times” kind of situation. Those movements your talking about are only possible when your at the “hard times creating strong men” era which we are on our way to but haven’t quite reached yet.

 

[Caesercel]

Make more babies ? There’s plenty of ways you can incentivize this without relying on immigration, Nazi Germany had a great policy to encourage child birth and large families with many children. Capitalism is irrelevant to that, the economic system isn’t the root cause.

Make more babies works in the long term. Meanwhile excess labour already exists just waiting to be used. Western populations might be dwindling but the world itself is overpopulated. Making more babies is not recommended anywhere

 

[Halfcastking123]

Just take women's rights away, don't let em leave the house, men need to stand up and fight.

"Christ is lord" jfl nga

 

[Hoppipolla]

Make more babies works in the long term. Meanwhile excess labour already exists just waiting to be used. Western populations might be dwindling but the world itself is overpopulated. Making more babies is not recommended anywhere

What about a place where people really want sexy time?

 

[Zionist]

"Christ is lord" jfl nga

כֵּן

 

[Caesercel]

What about a place where people really want sexy time?

That got decoupled with making babies and part of the reason why populations are dwindling

 

[Hoppipolla]

A couple of things I wanted to quickly add to this as I've been thinking about it a bit more!

- communism never really seems to work anyway and that is the biggest alternative system. maybe there are others though ^_^

- many countries are capitalist and don't have high immigration, like Japan or Hungary

 

[basedbaumi]

No, the ideology you have on mind, of with you read in some manifesto, is only executable, if the citizens always act rational. And that’s just not the case. Most people aren’t rational, in the slightest.

 

[Hoppipolla]

No, the ideology you have on mind, of with you read in some manifesto, is only executable, if the citizens always act rational. And that’s just not the case. Most people aren’t rational, in the slightest.

I honestly didn't have any ideology in mind. I was just expressing a point of concern with capitalism.

 

[Misogynist Vegeta]

Mass immigration is not inherent with capitalism, There are socialists who want mass immigration and there are capitalists who want mass immigration.

 

[basedbaumi]

I honestly didn't have any ideology in mind. I was just expressing a point of concern with capitalism.

Yeah, true. More money will always mean more workers and with that more immigrants. H1B for example.

 

[RandomGuy]

There is a third option…

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/QFBBjWxlbwQ?si=HsFXLtSCgcjyZfxh

 

[Hoppipolla]

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/QFBBjWxlbwQ?si=HsFXLtSCgcjyZfxh

Well erm... several issues with that just on the face of it:

- I don't think it's every major US politician is it!

- the refugees aren't coming in because we bombed anywhere. they're coming in because we're letting them in.