Venting I turned 18 last year and am paranoid ever since

[lvsickxx30]

I have to go back a bit for this problem of mine. So, my parents randomly dipped when I was 14. They were pretty absent anyways, but it still was a surprise. I only found out about it after our landlord got into the apartment, expecting empty rooms but finding a very confused 14 year old instead. He was just as confused as I was, explaining to me that my parents literally told him that we'd move out. (I still don't know how they managed to do that) He tried calling them several times, nothing. After given up any hope that they'd return, the landlord was ready to call CPS, but I knew that an orphanage/something similar would basically kill me, so I somehow (?) convinced him not to do so. Luckily for me, that landlord is a very shady guy (I guess he has to be, considering he owns an apartment complex in a very poor and criminal area. He probably has seen some shit, at least I did.) so he actually agreed on illegally letting me stay in a small one-room apartment, in exchange for physical work (scrubbing the halls etc.). It's a miracle that we haven't been caught yet, I'm still in disbelief. But it's exactly where my problem starts: Ever since I turned 18, I'm obviously a full adult, which brings certain official and legal responsibilites with it. Officially I still live with my parents it seems (wherever that is), since I don't get any letters sent to the old apartment anymore. But I'm just scared that any day now some random old bastard in an office chair will notice that something is not right and that me and my landlord will be caught. I don't know if it would have any legal consequences, but I'd guess it would. Honestly, I'll just keep going as I have before by just spending as much time as possible in my apartment and attracting as little attention as I can. (Which is luckily easy, one of the only benefits of being an ugly loner) Ask any questions you like, I know it's a crazy lore drop and that it sounds like an edgy character backstory, but I can assure you that it sucks and isn't cool at all. It's insane to get this off my chest and I don't know if it is a good idea to post about it, but I needed to just write it down after years of telling nobody.

 

[Autist]

So you killed your parents?

 

[aryanmikmaq]

I’m sorry that your parents left man that is fucked up. And that is some crazy lore man staying alone since 14 doing labor for the landlord to stay. Very crazy. I hope it goes well for you man.

 

[lvsickxx30]

So you killed your parents?

Out of all questions to be asked, I did not expect this one. Hate to disappoint, but they were just unattached bastards who couldn't handle their unplanned teen pregnancy at all.

 

[TooSomething]

Kids.is

 

[Jimb0]

Both parents leaving is CRAZY

 

[Lifeless]

Kids.is

 

[ZX888]

I have to go back a bit for this problem of mine. So, my parents randomly dipped when I was 14. They were pretty absent anyways, but it still was a surprise. I only found out about it after our landlord got into the apartment, expecting empty rooms but finding a very confused 14 year old instead. He was just as confused as I was, explaining to me that my parents literally told him that we'd move out. (I still don't know how they managed to do that) He tried calling them several times, nothing. After given up any hope that they'd return, the landlord was ready to call CPS, but I knew that an orphanage/something similar would basically kill me, so I somehow (?) convinced him not to do so. Luckily for me, that landlord is a very shady guy (I guess he has to be, considering he owns an apartment complex in a very poor and criminal area. He probably has seen some shit, at least I did.) so he actually agreed on illegally letting me stay in a small one-room apartment, in exchange for physical work (scrubbing the halls etc.). It's a miracle that we haven't been caught yet, I'm still in disbelief. But it's exactly where my problem starts: Ever since I turned 18, I'm obviously a full adult, which brings certain official and legal responsibilites with it. Officially I still live with my parents it seems (wherever that is), since I don't get any letters sent to the old apartment anymore. But I'm just scared that any day now some random old bastard in an office chair will notice that something is not right and that me and my landlord will be caught. I don't know if it would have any legal consequences, but I'd guess it would. Honestly, I'll just keep going as I have before by just spending as much time as possible in my apartment and attracting as little attention as I can. (Which is luckily easy, one of the only benefits of being an ugly loner) Ask any questions you like, I know it's a crazy lore drop and that it sounds like an edgy character backstory, but I can assure you that it sucks and isn't cool at all. It's insane to get this off my chest and I don't know if it is a good idea to post about it, but I needed to just write it down after years of telling nobody.

I hope they don't notice and it gets better for you.

 

[lvsickxx30]

I’m sorry that your parents left man that is fucked up. And that is some crazy lore man staying alone since 14 doing labor for the landlord to stay. Very crazy. I hope it goes well for you man.

Appreciated. It's really crazy if you think about it, but I keep forgetting that since it's literally my everyday life. But I guess it does have it's perks (even if not a lot), considering I live alone and have no parents nagging me or abusing me further. I've seen some crazy parents stories on here.

 

[aryanmikmaq]

Appreciated. It's really crazy if you think about it, but I keep forgetting that since it's literally my everyday life. But I guess it does have its perks (even if not a lot), considering I live alone and have no parents nagging me or abusing me further. I've seen some crazy parents stories on here.

Are you NEET or wagecuck?

 

[lvsickxx30]

Both parents leaving is CRAZY

Agreed. Like I was always aware that I was unplanned and unwanted since they kept reminding me but it's still insane to me.

 

[lvsickxx30]

Kids.is

please enlighten an unknowing greycel because I have no idea what this means

 

[Jimb0]

Agreed. Like I was always aware that I was unplanned and unwanted since they kept reminding me but it's still insane to me.

Is it at least a nice apartment or is it like a roach infested shithole?

 

[Ren Hoek]

please enlighten an unknowing greycel because I have no idea what this means

It's an oldfag just thinking they're better because muh older.

 

[lvsickxx30]

Are you NEET or wagecuck?

It sounds so stupid but kind of something in between I'd say? Officially NEET, but I do work for my apartment and my landlord offers me a small amount of money in exchange for even more work. Luckily I only need the money for food, and since I only eat cheap instant crap it's easy for me to avoid extra work. Only needed some more money recently because my phone broke.

 

[DoomThreeKoala]

please enlighten an unknowing greycel because I have no idea what this means

it means he thinks you're a kid

 

[lnceI]

Thats fucking brutal man good luck

 

[lvsickxx30]

Is it at least a nice apartment or is it like a roach infested shithole?

More of the latter. It's not even listed as an official apartment for rent because it's broken down and my landlord was too lazy to fix it. But I got a working toilet, shower,and sink, even with warm water, working electricity and I use the internet of my neighbour. It's enough for me, even if it's depressing.

 

[lvsickxx30]

It's an oldfag just thinking they're better because muh older.

Makes sense, thank you.

 

[8CbZA-kHFu6pFgE*]

What would be the issue of telling the city or whoever is responisble that you live in that one room apartment ? I mean you are a legal adult now, CPS shouldnt be an issue anymore

 

[lvsickxx30]

I hope they don't notice and it gets better for you.

thank you

 

[lvsickxx30]

Thats fucking brutal man good luck

thank you, I'll just hope for the best

 

[lvsickxx30]

What would be the issue of telling the city or whoever is responisble that you live in that one room apartment ? I mean you are a legal adult now, CPS shouldnt be an issue anymore

That's true, but I'm afraid that they'll find out that this has been going on for 4 years. I can imagine that my landlord could still get into trouble for that, considering he literally hid a minor in an apartment and I don't want to know what will happen to me and my apartment in that case.

 

[8CbZA-kHFu6pFgE*]

That's true, but I'm afraid that they'll find out that this has been going on for 4 years. I can imagine that my landlord could still get into trouble for that, considering he literally hid a minor in an apartment and I don't want to know what will happen to me and my apartment in that case.

I dont know how things work in your country, but as long as you have a document that proofs that you have a legal residence somewhere, they wont ask further questions, thats how it works in my country

 

[GigaL0ser]

Man that is so brutal
Do you live in a 3rd world country?

I hope that it gets better for u

 

[lvsickxx30]

I dont know how things work in your country, but as long as you have a document that proofs that you have a legal residence somewhere, they wont ask further questions, thats how it works in my country

The thing is, I don't really know how those things work either. But since I don't get any letters, I'm guessing that my parents receive all letters for me. And this is where I can only guess, since I obviously don't know what my parents are doing. Who knows what kinds of letters I've been receiving? There is a statutory health insurance in Germany, and since I'm not longer insured through my parents, the insurance office will probably now try to reach me for that insurance. It'd be rather easy for them to realize that something's fishy from there on. Another thing is, I don't even know if they still pretend that I live with them. If somebody asks them about me, and they'd just go "he left us when he turned 18", people would be informed that I'm out there somewhere and not with them anymore. It's hard to explain, but I hope ypu understand what I mean. It'd be easy for offices to basically find "plotholes" in my story if they'd just dig further.

 

[nazianime]

I don't know where you live but try and keep your documents of who you are with you as if something happens you will need those to prove who you are. Frankly if you are happy in a small apartment eating whatever simple fast food that's good. A lot of incels would like that type of freedom. CPS won't do anything because you have been unofficially emancipated and a adult already. But yea keep working if you want to save a bit of money so if you get kicked out you can survive a bit or try and get a warehouse job to keep funding your life.

CTLawHelp

ctlawhelp.org

If worse comes to, you can try to sue your parents for a bit of money to get you by if you can get free legal help through nonprofits.

Edit: if you are german then you will probably get good free benefits as a result of your abandonment.

 

[lvsickxx30]

Man that is so brutal
Do you live in a 3rd world country?

I hope that it gets better for u

Thank you. I live in Germany, which makes it even crazier that we haven't been caught yet

 

[8CbZA-kHFu6pFgE*]

The thing is, I don't really know how those things work either. But since I don't get any letters, I'm guessing that my parents receive all letters for me. And this is where I can only guess, since I obviously don't know what my parents are doing. Who knows what kinds of letters I've been receiving? There is a statutory health insurance in Germany, and since I'm not longer insured through my parents, the insurance office will probably now try to reach me for that insurance. It'd be rather easy for them to realize that something's fishy from there on. Another thing is, I don't even know if they still pretend that I live with them. If somebody asks them about me, and they'd just go "he left us when he turned 18", people would be informed that I'm out there somewhere and not with them anymore. It's hard to explain, but I hope ypu understand what I mean. It'd be easy for offices to basically find "plotholes" in my story if they'd just dig further.

Didnt know you were a Germancel too, just like me

 

[lvsickxx30]

I don't know where you live but try and keep your documents of who you are with you as if something happens you will need those to prove who you are. Frankly if you are happy in a small apartment eating whatever simple fast food that's good. A lot of incels would like that type of freedom. CPS won't do anything because you have been unofficially emancipated and a adult already. But yea keep working if you want to save a bit of money so if you get kicked out you can survive a bit or try and get a warehouse job to keep funding your life.

CTLawHelp

ctlawhelp.org

If worse comes to, you can try to sue your parents for a bit of money to get you by if you can get free legal help through nonprofits.

Edit: if you are german then you will probably get good free benefits as a result of your abandonment.

Thank you very much, I'm grateful for the genuine advice. The only problem is is that my ID expired last year and I'd have to go to a citizens office to renew it. I'm scared that they'll ask about my current address because I literally wouldn't know what to answer. I refused to attract that attention so now my only identification papers are expired.

 

[lvsickxx30]

Didnt know you were a Germancel too, just like me

So then you should understand my worries, because Germans and their paperwork fetish. (I'm not sure if I'm just crazy but I think I've read somewhere here that you're only allowed to talk English on the main forums, so I hope it's not weird that I respond in English still)

 

[8CbZA-kHFu6pFgE*]

So then you should understand my worries, because Germans and their paperwork fetish. (I'm not sure if I'm just crazy but I think I've read somewhere here that you're only allowed to talk English on the main forums, so I hope it's not weird that I respond in English still)

Yeah i know it too well. But what i can tell you is that you can Abmelden your Wohnung/Haus without any paperwork, you just tell them you dont live there anymore. Just for Anmelden you need some document as proof

 

[nazianime]

Thank you very much, I'm grateful for the genuine advice. The only problem is is that my ID expired last year and I'd have to go to a citizens office to renew it. I'm scared that they'll ask about my current address because I literally wouldn't know what to answer. I refused to attract that attention so now my only identification papers are expired.

Tell them you are homeless and beg for money, they might even offer you a couple public assistance bucks. I mean you technically are homeless and do informal work. The land lord has no record of your employment or the fact that you stay there. They can't force you to get formal work and get another place to live, but they have to process your ID.

 

[GigaL0ser]

Thank you. I live in Germany, which makes it even crazier that we haven't been caught yet

Im not the most educated in the german laws (I also live here) but I think that the worst thing that could happen to you is a fine (for not being registered).

Are you just working for your landlord illegally or are u also doing school?

 

[Emba]

So you killed and ate your parents?

 

[lvsickxx30]

Yeah i know it too well. But what i can tell you is that you can Abmelden your Wohnung/Haus without any paperwork, you just tell them you dont live there anymore. Just for Anmelden you need some document as proof

Yeah, Abmelden wouldn't be a problem, but what happens if I'd only do that. I'd probably be listed as homeless, then, but I don't know if that would have consequences or something.

 

[Emba]

Brutal reverse Fritzlpill

 

[8CbZA-kHFu6pFgE*]

Yeah, Abmelden wouldn't be a problem, but what happens if I'd only do that. I'd probably be listed as homeless, then, but I don't know if that would have consequences or something.

If you have a document that proves that you live at your current location you should be fine, that would be your new Erstwohnsitz then

 

[lvsickxx30]

Tell them you are homeless and beg for money, they might even offer you a couple public assistance bucks. I mean you technically are homeless and do informal work. The land lord has no record of your employment or the fact that you stay there. They can't force you to get formal work and get another place to live, but they have to process your ID.

Wait that might actually work, I never thought of that. But i'm still paranoid that the German system will find a loophole to fuck me over completely. But really, thank you for the genuine advice.

 

[lvsickxx30]

Im not the most educated in the german laws (I also live here) but I think that the worst thing that could happen to you is a fine (for not being registered).

Are you just working for your landlord illegally or are u also doing school?

The thing is that my landlord would probably have to face much bigger legal consequences than me, worst case scenario is that I lose my apartment because of whatever would happen to him. I've went to school but immediately dropped out when I turned 18, so that the teachers wouldn't be able to demand a conversation with my parents. Managing to go through 4 years of school without my teachers seeing my parents was crazy work as well.

 

[lvsickxx30]

If you have a document that proves that you live at your current location you should be fine, that would be your new Erstwohnsitz then

Problem is that my current location isn't an official apartment because it doesn't meet some sorts of standards. My landlord explained it to me, but I kind of forgot the reasoning. So he wouldn't even be allowed to have someone rent my current apartment. That's the problem, that's why both me and my landlord especially would be in trouble.

 

[nazianime]

Wait that might actually work, I never thought of that. But i'm still paranoid that the German system will find a loophole to fuck me over completely. But really, thank you for the genuine advice.

You probably have protections as a disadvantaged person. There is protections for homeless people that they don't pay taxes because they have no income and no assests (like cars, houses, gold, bank accounts, etc). Like I said there is no record of employment or rental agreements so you are officially homeless. Even if they look your name they will find nothing other then you exist, no bank accounts, property cars. If they investigate you (99% i doubt) then you can just say you were squatting in the apartment, play dumb.

 

[lvsickxx30]

You probably have protections as a disadvantaged person. There is protections for homeless people that they don't pay taxes because they have no income and no assests (like cars, houses, gold, bank accounts, etc). Like I said there is no record of employment or rental agreements so you are officially homeless.

That makes total sense. I'm probably just paranoid because this apartment is kind of what keeps me alive right now, so I really don't want to risk losing it.

 

[VeryNiceGuy]

Brutal first post. Good luck.

 

[lvsickxx30]

Brutal first post. Good luck.

This isn't my first post. Are you referring to this post or my actual first post? Because if you mean my actual first post, you're right.

 

[GigaL0ser]

The thing is that my landlord would probably have to face much bigger legal consequences than me, worst case scenario is that I lose my apartment because of whatever would happen to him. I've went to school but immediately dropped out when I turned 18, so that the teachers wouldn't be able to demand a conversation with my parents. Managing to go through 4 years of school without my teachers seeing my parents was crazy work as well.

I would suggest you to go to sozialamt/jobcenter and ask for help, they could give you a free shelter or apartment. Better to find something then to end up homeless on the street.

Tbh I’ve never heard of a such fucked up situation wtf

 

[lvsickxx30]

I would suggest you to go to sozialamt/jobcenter and ask for help, they could give you a free shelter or apartment. Better to find something then to end up homeless on the street.

Tbh I’ve never heard of a such fucked up situation wtf

That would probably be the most responsible thing to do, though I will probably miss my unemployed life. Tbh I barely have a will to live already, I don't want to know how it'll be once I'll be a regular wagecuck kek

 

[GigaL0ser]

That would probably be the most responsible thing to do, though I will probably miss my unemployed life. Tbh I barely have a will to live already, I don't want to know how it'll be once I'll be a regular wagecuck kek

Do you have a abschluss? If not you could still catch up on it, I know personally many guys in their late teens or 20’s doing that.


There is unfortunately no other way, I’m also going to work next year. I just can’t imagine to work with normie cucks who love to wageslave, especially when you are depressed or have not so many opportunities in life.

But yeah Good luck though

 

[VersoffenerAssi]

I'd probably be listed as homeless, then, but I don't know if that would have consequences or something.

Dann gehst du zur Stadt und lässt dich in eine Pennerunterkunft einweisen.
Aber vermutlich verputzen dich die abgedrehten Typen dort noch vor dem Frühstück (oder ihrem ersten Schuss*).

*Rauschgift

 

[VersoffenerAssi]

I would suggest you to go to sozialamt/jobcenter and ask for help, they could give you a free shelter or apartment. Better to find something then to end up homeless on the street.

Tbh I’ve never heard of a such fucked up situation wtf

Die stecken den in irgendeine Notunterkunft rein und er ist doch so ein sensibler Typ, der sich schon vor bösen Beiträgen hier fürchtet.
Wenn nur die Hälfte von dem stimmt, was er in seinem anderen Thread geäußert hat, überlebt er in so einer Unterkunft möglicherweise nicht mal einen Tag, wenn dort niemand ist, der auf ihn aufpasst. Ich hab die Scheiße durch und genug krasse Typen, Junkies und Säufer erlebt. Die prügeln zum Teil die Scheiße unter den Augen der Bullerei aus dir raus.