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I think my brother is an incel
so yeah, not even sure if this is the right subreddit to post but i really, really need advice for this.
There you have it. That's the problem.I have an older brother. Hes 16, quite short for his age and has some of a babyface. He goes to the gym and is quite muscular.
my brother’s had a difficult life. He got bullied in both schools we switched to, from ages 6 to 12. He confronted his bully at that age as school ended. And we went to another one.
Our parents are good, to a certain extent. My father is old. He's around 65, to be more specific. By that same reason, he's kind of unaware to the dating world at this moment. Not only that, but it's really difficult for him to argument constantly. He and my brother have had hundreds of fights before. They screamed at eachother, yelled and insulted, etc etc.
My father is a good person, he really tries, but he's just not compatible with my brother. He's sensible, he likes "embarassing" things. He's affectionate with his children, even if one fights with him everyday.
My brother doesnt trust him. They have a better relationship now, but there´s still no trust.
Of course, the mother is a neurotic bitch.On the other side, my mother is quite different.
She's tried to manipulate me in the past, when i was around 8-10 to hate my brother when they fought. Always passive-agressive. She doesn't like vulnerability and constantly makes us feel less, call us names, and never takes accountability. She says she loves us, and i believe her, but she changes that quickly. She shames us at every chance, in public or in private.
These last weeks she's shown to be more calm, not screaming so much anymore and looking less hostile, nonetheless, the years of hurting still weigh down on my brother and i.
When they fight about the incel thing, i sometimes can hear him sniffling from his room or tearing his knuckles on his punching bag, even with gloves on.
BRUUUUTALHe told me once when that when he was around 13 a girl dumped him at a park, because she saw a friend taller than him. I'm afraid of asking him about that again, so that's all the details i've got.
We have these talks between us. Everytime we are alone and i tell him something, it eventually leads to how women talk to everyone but him, how they are terrible and how the world is. He tals about how all his friends are just massses that stay all day at home and don't do anything productive. (he kind of has an obsession with doing everything with a result that would, in his mindset, be worth it. That's why he boxes, trains and jogs.) I try to tell him that world isn't that bad, and he has just gotten the bad luck, i remind him he did get with a beautiful woman once, a couple moths ago, but that was on vacation and they couldn't get together. The hope he had flew away in two months. That had been the most lively i had seen him in a while. But all my arguments are dismissed because i'm a woman and im not capable to understand.
I get that men's support system is terrible, and that the world treats them horribly. Not being able to show feelings, shamed for being emotional, having to do most in the dating scene, being called creeps for most things, etc etc.
He got from my mother the incapability to accept mistakes or backing down from an opinion. He's very temperamental and insults and yells whenever me or my mother confront him.
I haven't been in love with anybody in the years i've been alive. Nonetheless, some days ago, i found a guy interesting and went up to talk to him, and took him to eat something. He's quiet and doesn't know much how to talk.
Today i spoke too early, too much, and told my brother about that boy. He looked... depressed. He asked why did everyone get a girlfriend or a boyfriend (just that morning, one of his friends apparently did, even if that specific friend probably made it up, knowing him...) except for him, why was everyone happy except him, and that every day was worse and worse.
hes spiraling. Now he sounds pessimistic. terribly pessimistic. I have the worries he has suicidal thoughts, but he has told me it "isn't in his morals" but that doesn't matter when you want to take your own life...
I've tried getting him to a theRAPIST, but he rejects female therapists and i don't know how to find a male one. And even if i did, he would say he's too busy with boxing and the gym.
the thing is, i know he’s a good person. he was the kindest big brother growing up. he's good with kids, animals, and really, really strong.
He doesn't seem like the type to hurt others, but himself. any way, i need help for him. I need my brother alive and well.
Edit because I think I didn't express myself well enough:
I don't dislike my brother. He's shown to be really kind most of the time, it's just these moments he has that concern me. I'm sorry if it seemed like I was hating on him or shaming him in any way, I don't think anyone should be shamed for being in need of help.
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