I think getting the chin liposuction was actually worth it

[lanturn]

Congrats op. Before you looked like a white version of me. Now you look like a chadlite.

 

[itsOVER]

Congrats op. Before you looked like a white version of me. Now you look like a chadlite.

I think that's way overestimating the change but it's certainly better anyway.

 

[Deleted member 236]

What's your body fat %? You need to gymcel. It's always a bit weird when guys get surgery who haven't maxed out in natural ways.

You have incredible skin. If you look after yourself, you'll age like a God, and look ten years younger than your true age. Avoid the sun.

 

[itsOVER]

What's your body fat %? You need to gymcel. It's always a bit weird when guys get surgery who haven't maxed out in natural ways.

You have incredible skin. If you look after yourself, you'll age like a God, and look ten years younger than your true age. Avoid the sun.

It was 23% a couple of weeks ago but I'm only 55kg. Incel genetics.

And yeah decent skin is about my only positive attribute.

Luckily avoiding sunlight is easy for us incels.

 

[Deleted member 236]

It was 23% a couple of weeks ago but I'm only 55kg. Incel genetics.

And yeah decent skin is about my only positive attribute.

Luckily avoiding sunlight is easy for us incels.

Genetics have nothing to do with it. Lift a few times per week (the big 4, simple af) and go raw vegan and you'll be a God in a few months. Combine it with saving up and surgerymaxing and you'll be a chadlite for the next 15 years.

 

[FACEandLMS]

Because I've got no friends and no life and so spend absolutely fuck all back home.

Don t you pay accomodation?

 

[itsOVER]

Don t you pay accomodation?

Yes but it's cheap 6 quid a night hostel accommodation.

 

[elnegro]

maxillacel

before:
https://i.imgur.com/DVYG723.jpg

after:
https://ibb.co/bZyENc

 

[itsOVER]

Genetics have nothing to do with it. Lift a few times per week (the big 4, simple af) and go raw vegan and you'll be a God in a few months. Combine it with saving up and surgerymaxing and you'll be a chadlite for the next 15 years.

I've started doing a bit of lifting while aggessively cutting. Just to hope my face leans out a bit, I still consider muscles to be cope.

Not going vegan though, fuck that lol.

 

[Deleted member 236]

I've started doing a bit of lifting while aggessively cutting. Just to hope my face leans out a bit, I still consider muscles to be cope.

Not going vegan though, fuck that lol.

Diet is King, man. Check out this raw vegan who's 55:

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl_klxNeSD4[/video]

With your skin, you could age like Tom Cruise.

 

[FACEandLMS]

Yes but it's cheap 6 quid a night hostel accommodation.

Roughly £200 a month, rounding up. How much do you spend on food? On university fees? Do you even have storage space there? Can people steal your shit? What are your outgoings to be able to afford surgery and flights without a job?

 

[hehe xd]

Getting some sluts but I don't have any interest in roiding.

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Still at 4 unfortunately since I got cucked by having to write a paper for university yesterday (plus struck out on Tuesday). So I couldn't meet anyone new...just invited one of my previous lays over to the room so I still got some action but it wasn't with a new chick.

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chadcel

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I've started doing a bit of lifting while aggessively cutting. Just to hope my face leans out a bit, I still consider muscles to be cope.

Not going vegan though, fuck that lol.

its actually really simple how u are fat even tho u are underweight, u are not physically active

i dont think its possible to lose fat and keep/gain muscle at ur weight, probably isnt, but if u lifted a few times a week while cutting u would be much lower bf%

i know this because i cut while gymceling and ended up in a decent bf%, now im back to like 20-25 tho kek

 

[itsOVER]

Roughly £200 a month, rounding up. How much do you spend on food? On university fees? Do you even have storage space there? Can people steal your shit? What are your outgoings to be able to afford surgery and flights without a job?

University fees are paid by the government. Here's how it all worked out:

18 months ago I moved back to the UK to start a PGCE, which is basically a course funded by the government to put teachers in schools. I was given:

- 9200 GBP in living costs.
- 3000 GBP bursary from my university.

The government paid the fees. During this time, I was living with a family member rent free, so my outgoings were approximately 200 a month on food, and another 80 on my car. No friends and no life so...umm..that was about all I spent. Let's call it 300 a month just to account for the occasion random expense. 12 months of that shit = 3600 spent. Take that  away from the 12,200 I was given by the government, and that's 8,600 remaining.

Then I did a CELTA course, which was also funded by the government. However, I did have to pay for my accommodation for that month as it was in another area of the country. The accomodation was 550 for that month, and let's say another 200 on food. Call it 7,800 left.

I then started a Masters degree last September. I used the government postgraduate loan system, and took the maximum loan (they think it's a loan that I'll pay back...JFL at government cucks). That was 10,280 GBP. My fees are around 7,500, so I'm pocketing another 2,800 quid overall from that. Add that to the 7,800 left after the PGCE + CELTA, and I've got 10,600 to play around with at the start of September.

My expenses from that point ended up a fair bit more:

- 1,500 was spent on an ill fated month long trip to Poland. I thought maybe it'd be easier to get laid there. I was wrong and promptly came scuttling back home with my tail between my legs.
- I've probably been spending 300 a month on food since September, so that's another 1,800 gone.
- I paid 500 GBP for my chin liposuction.
- Going to be paying 1,800 for my hair transplant
- Spent 1,500 quid in November on a 10 day trip to Thailand. Was just all about the hookers on that trip though, stayed in Pattaya, didn't try and get regular girls.
- Another 1,500 on this current trip, including flights. I'm not buying girls on this trip, but I am staying for more than double the time which explains why it's the same expenses as my first trip.
- Obviously paid like 300 in hostel expenses in the UK so far.

Total that up and you've got net expenses of 8,900. I managed to whine to my university hardship fund during this point as well and got 1,500 quid for free, so overall expenses were 7,400. Take that away from the 10,600 I started with, and I've got 3,200 left after this holiday is over. And just checking my bank account, there's 3 grand in it, so those figures all seem to check out.

All I have left to pay out of that 3,200 is 3 more weeks hostel accommodation when I return to the UK, food while I'm in the UK, then a flight back to Thailand or the Philippines when I'm done since all the classes are finished by the start of April. That's not gonna be more than 1,200 or so, so I actually do have the money to go to Poland and get the chin implant if I wanted, and I'd still have enough cash left over to keep me going until I found a job overseas.

I'll be returning overseas with the highest level qualifications you can really get in English teaching, all of it paid for by the UK government, and I even got some light surgery funded as well. In return for that though I've had to give up 18 months of my life.

 

[BlackpilledTruecel]

Getting some sluts but I don't have any interest in roiding.

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Still at 4 unfortunately since I got cucked by having to write a paper for university yesterday (plus struck out on Tuesday). So I couldn't meet anyone new...just invited one of my previous lays over to the room so I still got some action but it wasn't with a new chick.

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what major is your bachelors and master's in? did you pick an easy one? i fucking HATE my business admin major this accounting and calculus shit is so cucked.

 

[Deleted member 1060]

Honestly you looked fine to me in the before pic...

So are you a volcel, mentalcel, or standardscel? Cuz you ain't that ugly.

You should be able to capitalize on just be white theory.

Yup, op can shag any asian noodlewhore with a flick of his finger, I don't understand what the fuck he is doing here. I have seen way uglier white guys shagging asian noodlewhores left and right.

 

[BlackpilledTruecel]

University fees are paid by the government. Here's how it all worked out:

18 months ago I moved back to the UK to start a PGCE, which is basically a course funded by the government to put teachers in schools. I was given:

- 9200 GBP in living costs.
- 3000 GBP bursary from my university.

The government paid the fees. During this time, I was living with a family member rent free, so my outgoings were approximately 200 a month on food, and another 80 on my car. No friends and no life so...umm..that was about all I spent. Let's call it 300 a month just to account for the occasion random expense. 12 months of that shit = 3600 spent. Take that  away from the 12,200 I was given by the government, and that's 8,600 remaining.

Then I did a CELTA course, which was also funded by the government. However, I did have to pay for my accommodation for that month as it was in another area of the country. The accomodation was 550 for that month, and let's say another 200 on food. Call it 7,800 left.

I then started a Masters degree last September. I used the government postgraduate loan system, and took the maximum loan (they think it's a loan that I'll pay back...JFL at government cucks). That was 10,280 GBP. My fees are around 7,500, so I'm pocketing another 2,800 quid overall from that. Add that to the 7,800 left after the PGCE + CELTA, and I've got 10,600 to play around with at the start of September.

My expenses from that point ended up a fair bit more:

- 1,500 was spent on an ill fated month long trip to Poland. I thought maybe it'd be easier to get laid there. I was wrong and promptly came scuttling back home with my tail between my legs.
- I've probably been spending 300 a month on food since September, so that's another 1,800 gone.
- I paid 500 GBP for my chin liposuction.
- Going to be paying 1,800 for my hair transplant
- Spent 1,500 quid in November on a 10 day trip to Thailand. Was just all about the hookers on that trip though, stayed in Pattaya, didn't try and get regular girls.
- Another 1,500 on this current trip, including flights. I'm not buying girls on this trip, but I am staying for more than double the time which explains why it's the same expenses as my first trip.
- Obviously paid like 300 in hostel expenses in the UK so far.

Total that up and you've got net expenses of 8,900. I managed to whine to my university hardship fund during this point as well and got 1,500 quid for free, so overall expenses were 7,400. Take that away from the 10,600 I started with, and I've got 3,200 left after this holiday is over. And just checking my bank account, there's 3 grand in it, so those figures all seem to check out.

All I have left to pay out of that 3,200 is 3 more weeks hostel accommodation when I return to the UK, food while I'm in the UK, then a flight back to Thailand or the Philippines when I'm done since all the classes are finished by the start of April. That's not gonna be more than 1,200 or so, so I actually do have the money to go to Poland and get the chin implant if I wanted, and I'd still have enough cash left over to keep me going until I found a job overseas.

I'll be returning overseas with the highest level qualifications you can really get in English teaching, all of it paid for by the UK government, and I even got some light surgery funded as well. In return for that though I've had to give up 18 months of my life.

were you full time student only, or did you work part time aswell? have u ever worked while doing school at the same time?

 

[Sub8Hate]

Yup, op can shag any asian noodlewhore with a flick of his finger, I don't understand what the fuck he is doing here. I have seen way uglier white guys shagging asian noodlewhores left and right.

It has to be standards.. No way that guy hasn't been hit on by an uggo.

 

[845889524]

He isnt really a volcel. Hes still unnatractive. OP needs Jawimplants or Bimax and his gonial angles done

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He isnt really a volcel. Hes still unnatractive. OP needs Jawimplants or Bimax and his gonial angles done

Even if you get Osteotomy you still will need implants

 

[anincelforlifelol]

Why is OP so bloated like me? It's a disgusting feature.

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He isnt really a volcel. Hes still unnatractive. OP needs Jawimplants or Bimax and his gonial angles done

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Even if you get Osteotomy you still will need implants

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Stop giving worthless advice like jaw implants done. He'll look worse. Jaw implants only widen your jaw. And his jaw is already wide. It's bloated as fuck.

 

[DankIncel]

I am glad to see your results. I am happy for you Brethren.

 

[AddictedToPorn]

I can't see a difference. Your are 5+/10 get out of here. You look autistic and depressed.

 

[itsOVER]

Honestly you looked fine to me in the before pic...
So are you a volcel, mentalcel, or standardscel? Cuz you ain't that ugly.
You should be able to capitalize on just be white theory.

Yup, op can shag any asian noodlewhore with a flick of his finger, I don't understand what the fuck he is doing here. I have seen way uglier white guys shagging asian noodlewhores left and right.

Only in Asia. I get NOTHING in the west, and it's not like I haven't tried.

University fees are paid by the government. Here's how it all worked out:
18 months ago I moved back to the UK to start a PGCE, which is basically a course funded by the government to put teachers in schools. I was given:
- 9200 GBP in living costs.
- 3000 GBP bursary from my university.
The government paid the fees. During this time, I was living with a family member rent free, so my outgoings were approximately 200 a month on food, and another 80 on my car. No friends and no life so...umm..that was about all I spent. Let's call it 300 a month just to account for the occasion random expense. 12 months of that shit = 3600 spent. Take that away from the 12,200 I was given by the government, and that's 8,600 remaining.
Then I did a CELTA course, which was also funded by the government. However, I did have to pay for my accommodation for that month as it was in another area of the country. The accomodation was 550 for that month, and let's say another 200 on food. Call it 7,800 left.
I then started a Masters degree last September. I used the government postgraduate loan system, and took the maximum loan (they think it's a loan that I'll pay back...JFL at government cucks). That was 10,280 GBP. My fees are around 7,500, so I'm pocketing another 2,800 quid overall from that. Add that to the 7,800 left after the PGCE + CELTA, and I've got 10,600 to play around with at the start of September.
My expenses from that point ended up a fair bit more:
- 1,500 was spent on an ill fated month long trip to Poland. I thought maybe it'd be easier to get laid there. I was wrong and promptly came scuttling back home with my tail between my legs.
- I've probably been spending 300 a month on food since September, so that's another 1,800 gone.
- I paid 500 GBP for my chin liposuction.
- Going to be paying 1,800 for my hair transplant
- Spent 1,500 quid in November on a 10 day trip to Thailand. Was just all about the hookers on that trip though, stayed in Pattaya, didn't try and get regular girls.
- Another 1,500 on this current trip, including flights. I'm not buying girls on this trip, but I am staying for more than double the time which explains why it's the same expenses as my first trip.
- Obviously paid like 300 in hostel expenses in the UK so far.
Total that up and you've got net expenses of 8,900. I managed to whine to my university hardship fund during this point as well and got 1,500 quid for free, so overall expenses were 7,400. Take that away from the 10,600 I started with, and I've got 3,200 left after this holiday is over. And just checking my bank account, there's 3 grand in it, so those figures all seem to check out.
All I have left to pay out of that 3,200 is 3 more weeks hostel accommodation when I return to the UK, food while I'm in the UK, then a flight back to Thailand or the Philippines when I'm done since all the classes are finished by the start of April. That's not gonna be more than 1,200 or so, so I actually do have the money to go to Poland and get the chin implant if I wanted, and I'd still have enough cash left over to keep me going until I found a job overseas.
I'll be returning overseas with the highest level qualifications you can really get in English teaching, all of it paid for by the UK government, and I even got some light surgery funded as well. In return for that though I've had to give up 18 months of my life.

were you full time student only, or did you work part time aswell? have u ever worked while doing school at the same time?

Full time on all courses. No, I don't work, I refuse to wagecuck for a society that hates me and keeps me incel.

Yup, op can shag any asian noodlewhore with a flick of his finger, I don't understand what the fuck he is doing here. I have seen way uglier white guys shagging asian noodlewhores left and right.

It has to be standards.. No way that guy hasn't been hit on by an uggo.

Not a single western girl has ever hit on me. I've been out on a grand total one ONE date with a white girl - and she was a fat landwhale who rejected me the day after (never even kissed). My only success in the UK came with a Chinese international student, and it was literally her first week in the UK so she hadn't been corrupted by western media and western Chads yet.

Why is OP so bloated like me? It's a disgusting feature.

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He isnt really a volcel. Hes still unnatractive. OP needs Jawimplants or Bimax and his gonial angles done

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Even if you get Osteotomy you still will need implants

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Stop giving worthless advice like jaw implants done. He'll look worse. Jaw implants only widen your jaw. And his jaw is already wide. It's bloated as fuck.

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Subhuman fat storage genetics. Somehow, despite being 55kg at 170cm, I'm 23% body fat and seem to store a ton of it in my face. Incel genetics cucking me, basically.

I can't see a difference. Your are 5+/10 get out of here. You look autistic and depressed.

'Looking depressed' really just means ugly boyo.

Honestly think anyone who claims to see no difference at all is just being selectively blind. You can argue about the level of difference but claiming there's not anything different at all is pretty lol. Double chin is clear to see in the before pics, not at all in the after pics though.

 

[Sub8Hate]

Well tbh I don't know what it's like in the UK.

 

[itsOVER]

Well tbh I don't know what it's like in the UK.

It's hell on Earth.

 

[Pimpom]

You looked and look fine. Not even "ugly", just a normal guy. I think you should stop trying so hard. Eventually some girl will notice you, and if you're a normal looking guy, she probably will be interested in you because of your personality than your physical appearance , because the personality makes a person more attractive physically unconsciously.

 

[Deleted member 677]

As some of you will know, 7 weeks ago I got liposuction on the area below my chin. That's because despite being a low overall weight, I still had a double chin which made my shit lower third even shitter.

Here a few pics of me before the liposuction:

And a few pics now:

And yes, I know it's not a perfect comparison as I have shitty facial hair in the first pics whereas right now I'm clean shaven. But even so, I think the difference is clear enough. It's not turned me into a Chad or anything but one minor surgery can never be expected to do that.

All I need now is a chin implant (to make the chin squarer rather than rounded) and that area will be pretty good I feel. Can travel to Poland and get one for 800 GBP. Throw that on top of the 500 GBP for the lipo, and I'll have got a much better chin area for 1,300 pounds - which isn't bad value IMO.

Not sure if I'm coping or not but I do feel there's a noticable difference there.

Next you might want to do something about that buccal fat.

 

[NormieCunt97]

As some of you will know, 7 weeks ago I got liposuction on the area below my chin. That's because despite being a low overall weight, I still had a double chin which made my shit lower third even shitter.

Here a few pics of me before the liposuction:

And a few pics now:

And yes, I know it's not a perfect comparison as I have shitty facial hair in the first pics whereas right now I'm clean shaven. But even so, I think the difference is clear enough. It's not turned me into a Chad or anything but one minor surgery can never be expected to do that.

All I need now is a chin implant (to make the chin squarer rather than rounded) and that area will be pretty good I feel. Can travel to Poland and get one for 800 GBP. Throw that on top of the 500 GBP for the lipo, and I'll have got a much better chin area for 1,300 pounds - which isn't bad value IMO.

Not sure if I'm coping or not but I do feel there's a noticable difference there.

There is a difference.
In my country (Romania) you'd be at least normie-tier.
I don't think it's worth to also get the chin implant imo, but do as you please.

 

[itsOVER]

Next you might want to do something about that buccal fat.

I'm gonna cut body fat to 12% if I can then assess what else needs doing. For sure my fat storage genetics are awful though.

 

[anincelforlifelol]

Only in Asia. I get NOTHING in the west, and it's not like I haven't tried.



Full time on all courses. No, I don't work, I refuse to wagecuck for a society that hates me and keeps me incel.



Not a single western girl has ever hit on me. I've been out on a grand total one ONE date with a white girl - and she was a fat landwhale who rejected me the day after (never even kissed). My only success in the UK came with a Chinese international student, and it was literally her first week in the UK so she hadn't been corrupted by western media and western Chads yet.



Subhuman fat storage genetics. Somehow, despite being 55kg at 170cm, I'm 23% body fat and seem to store a ton of it in my face. Incel genetics cucking me, basically.



'Looking depressed' really just means ugly boyo.

Honestly think anyone who claims to see no difference at all is just being selectively blind. You can argue about the level of difference but claiming there's not anything different at all is pretty lol. Double chin is clear to see in the before pics, not at all in the after pics though.

"23% body fat"
Yeah...get the fuck out of here. There's your problem you goddamn lazycel.

 

[itsOVER]

"23% body fat"
Yeah...get the fuck out of here. There's your problem you goddamn lazycel.

That's because of genetics boyo. I'm 55kg.

 

[BlackpilledTruecel]

Full time on all courses. No, I don't work, I refuse to wagecuck for a society that hates me and keeps me incel.



Well yeah of course i dont want to wagecuck while in school, but i need to in order to get surgeries or atleast get a loan accepted. How did u live w/ no job? I dont pay any bills at home but I do have to pay for: gas, food, phone bill, car insurance. How did u get all the money to live on and get surgeries too and pay for flights?

 

[itsOVER]

The government gives students money to live. And I've no friends and no life so don't spend much.

 

[BlackpilledTruecel]

The government gives students money to live. And I've no friends and no life so don't spend much.

Just fucking lol at the us.. Jesus Christ. Do you have to apply for it to get the money with some company like FAFSA is for USA?

 

[itsOVER]

Just fucking lol at the us.. Jesus Christ. Do you have to apply for it to get the money with some company like FAFSA is for USA?

You apply for it through the student loans company (SLC) in the UK. But it's not means tested...everyone gets the cash if they ask for it.

 

[RREEEEEEEEE]

Definitely an improvement.

 

[RREEEEEEEEE]

OK, I understand, but I'd imagine you could score at least a 4 or a 5, is that not good enough for you? Just wondering...
I don't know how it is in the UK, but it's doable in the US... It's just a lot of you aren't that ugly, lol. Yeah, yeah, hypergamy, but it's not impossible.

Are ya waiting for the cute girl in the yoga pants? lol gotta be realistic dawg.

LOL, I have seen guys that look worse than you with a white girl. Your looks aren't the problem here. You're probably a standardcel.

 

[Sub8Hate]

LOL, I have seen guys that look worse than you with a white girl. Your looks aren't the problem here. You're probably a standardcel.

Me? I'm happy with my match...

 

[RREEEEEEEEE]

Me? I'm happy with my match...

Oops, I meant to quote OP.

 

[itsOVER]

Me? I'm happy with my match...

A match? A MATCH? This guy has a MATCH???

Fakecel OUT!

 

[Sub8Hate]

Oops, I meant to quote OP.

No problem, let's just blame it on the new layout

 

[Sub8Hate]

A match? A MATCH? This guy has a MATCH???

Fakecel OUT!

LOL my looksmatch.. Not a match online. I'm online now getting ignored left and right. Why the fuck do I do this to myself?

 

[itsOVER]

Oops, I meant to quote OP.

Believe what you wish buddy boyo but it's not like I sat in the basement and never tried. Never got laid with a white girl, never kissed a white girl, and I've asked out plenty, ranging from PSL3-7's.

I've only even been on a date ONCE with a white girl and was ghosted soon after. And she was a PSL 3 landwhale.

 

[itsOVER]

LOL my looksmatch.. Not a match online. I'm online now getting ignored left and right. Why the fuck do I do this to myself?

Oh thank god, I was thinking I was the last one left who gets nothing in the west.

 

[RREEEEEEEEE]

No problem, let's just blame it on the new layout

LOL, definitely.

Believe what you wish buddy boyo but it's not like I sat in the basement and never tried. Never got laid with a white girl, never kissed a white girl, and I've asked out plenty, ranging from PSL3-7's.

I've only even been on a date ONCE with a white girl and was ghosted soon after. And she was a PSL 3 landwhale.

I see it on a daily basis, lol. I only said your looks aren't the problem. As we all know, non-Chads need more than just their looks to get into a relationship. Personality definitely plays a role. You'd have more chances as a non-offensive 5/10 than an offensive 5/10.

 

[itsOVER]

LOL, definitely.



I see it on a daily basis, lol. I only said your looks aren't the problem. As we all know, non-Chads need more than just their looks to get into a relationship. Personality definitely plays a role. You'd have more chances as a non-offensive 5/10 than an offensive 5/10.

Less than Chad = you have to work your ass off to get anywhere with some PSL 3 hambeast. Personality is completely and totally irrelevant. It's only looks.

 

[Akarin]

much better, from 4/10 to 5-/10

you should grow your hair and get a haircut before you'll get the hair transplant. Your hairline isn't that bad but with your current hairstyle it screams "40yo low wage father of 3 children"

but there is a big chance that you'll look like a pathetic tryhard with chaddish hair

 

[Sub8Hate]

Oh thank god, I was thinking I was the last one left who gets nothing in the west.

Yeah my life sucks right now as far as foids go. I need some raw pussy so bad LOL.

 

[RREEEEEEEEE]

Less than Chad = you have to work your ass off to get anywhere with some PSL 3 hambeast. Personality is completely and totally irrelevant. It's only looks.

For hook-ups, yeah, it's all about looks. Otherwise no.

 

[itsOVER]

Yeah my life sucks right now as far as foids go. I need some raw pussy so bad LOL.

I'll be joining you back on the incel boat in a week...

 

[rotting-alone]

Hey OP can you tell me more about this surgery? Was it expensive? Painful? Is there a long recovery time that you have to take off of work? Curious. I thought about getting one for my chubby cheeks.