I think females are full of shit when they say muscles dont matter

[Inceljoe]

Yes, as we all know, face is the most important part. Having a good jaw and eyes most important.

But at the same time, women talk alot of fucking bullshit when they say muscles dont matter. Almost all Chads Ive ever known of, in high-school, elementary school and now college, have big muscles and especially big arms. I think its something primitive going on here, its like big muscles make women turn on instincitvely on a very primal level, this is very apparent when alcohol is in the mix.

It only makes sense too, men like big fucking tits and nice asses, why wouldnt women like a great body with abs, large shoulders and big arms?

There is definitely something going on with muscles, a man who is big and strong commands presence in a room and females notice it immidately.

Too bad Im a low T framecel.

 

[Glast]

They don't want you occupying the machine/free weights Chad could be using.

 

[TheGambler2]

muscles dont matter too much,it's mainly frame.

 

[Insomniac]

it’s all about bones my man

 

[Inceljoe]

muscles dont matter too much,it's mainly frame.

Muscles is basically frame. The skeleton of males differ very very little, look at the jew camps, they all looked like skeletons when having no mass on them.

Muscles matter alot, anyone whove seen a guy with six pack abs and a big physique on a club knows that, the attention is insane.

 

[Dionysus]

muscles only help so much

 

[Deleted member 18214]

muscles dont matter too much,it's mainly frame.

it’s all about bones my man

 

[CursedCel]

Foids are raising their standards everyday everything matters

 

[78980n]

muscles dont matter too much,it's mainly frame.

 

[TheGambler2]

Muscles is basically frame. The skeleton of males differ very very little, look at the jew camps, they all looked like skeletons when having no mass on them.

Muscles matter alot, anyone whove seen a guy with six pack abs and a big physique on a club knows that, the attention is insane.

massive cope.yeah bro all skeletons are same women will be drooling over this musclular god on the left

 

[Deleted member 20207]

You don't ask a fish how to catch it. Ask the fisherman.

 

[Property_Of_Negan ☠]

Yes, as we all know, face is the most important part. Having a good jaw and eyes most important.

But at the same time, women talk alot of fucking bullshit when they say muscles dont matter. Almost all Chads Ive ever known of, in high-school, elementary school and now college, have big muscles and especially big arms. I think its something primitive going on here, its like big muscles make women turn on instincitvely on a very primal level, this is very apparent when alcohol is in the mix.

It only makes sense too, men like big fucking tits and nice asses, why wouldnt women like a great body with abs, large shoulders and big arms?

There is definitely something going on with muscles, a man who is big and strong commands presence in a room and females notice it immidately.

Too bad Im a low T framecel.

Muscles don't mean shit I have had big arms since 8th grade now I'm 225lbs buff and nobody gives a shit some foid even called me a gorilla because of it.

 

[Deleted member 1042]

Combination of face, height, proportion, and race.

 

[Hungry Hungry Hindu]

men like big fucking tits

 

[Deleted member 16455]

muscles only help so much

 

[Carotel]

Muscles are more like an extra, but not a requirement.

 

[Inceljoe]

massive cope.yeah bro all skeletons are same women will be drooling over this musclular god on the left


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Please god tell me u realise that one is hugely photoshopped or are u actually that low iq?

 

[Angry_runt]

Muscles increase attractiveness of guys who can already get foids, but no one is an incel because they don't have enough muscle.

 

[Inceljoe]

Everything about your physical form contributes to your level of physical attractiveness. Don't believe anyone who says otherwise.

Size matters a lot.

Yea many here dont seem to go to clubs at all, they have no idea

 

[Deleted member 2686]

nah its not entirely bs

that is

muscles are a plus, you have to have a good face, yes muscled chad definetly mogs not muscled chad, but non muscled chad mogs muscled incels always

 

[Angry_runt]

Everything about your physical form contributes to your level of physical attractiveness.

Contributes but how much?

Size matters a lot.

Height and frame, yes. Muscles, not so much. That's why pretty much every guy gives up on the gym after a few months or few years.
If you believe otherwise, hit the gym and go to Looksmax, don't push that nonsense here to those who know better.

 

[fOreVER]

Just lift bro

 

[Deleted member 19756]

Muscle gaining is the largest waste of energy in the modern world. If you have the right frame, go for it. Working on your knowledge and social circle is far more productive. Fuck foids and their physical desires.

 

[ihaveno1]

depends on location and natural frame/bones

 

[mylifeistrash]

Bones are more important than muscles. This thread is specifically about muscles though.


I also do not go to clubs.

bones are essentially muscles since they create the shape the muscles will have and how much of it you hold

in the end it all comes down to bones

 

[micropenis29]

Muscles increase attractiveness of guys who can already get foids, but no one is an incel because they don't have enough muscle.
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Who is the foid going to choose in this case though?

Frame still matters. Not nearly as much as face, but it matters.

And OP is right that foids lie about not caring about muscles; they care a lot.

 

[Remyx]

Men are attracted to bodies, females are attracted to face

 

[Angry_runt]

Who is the foid going to choose in this case though?
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Most will choose the guy on the right, a few will be repulsed by the muscles and a lot just won't care or they'll choose the left guy because they think his face is prettier. And the guy on the left will get the same amount and quality of pussy as the guy on the right Even if the guy on the right has 10000 foids who want him and the guy on the left has 5000, it's still more than they'd want and skinny guy has a lot more free time than the jacked guy.

I've been a gym rat for 15 years and I know hundreds of guys at every level of fitness. From what I can tell, the kind of girls guys get doesn't depend on muscles, and if you're ugly it's a very poor investment in attractiveness. If your face, height, race or status are deal breakers, your body doesn't even enter the equation. If you're fine in every category then yes, muscles will give you an edge overall, but that begs the question why are you even here.

So the question for incels is whether a foid will choose a skinnyfat ugly guy over a jacked ugly guy, and from what I can tell the answer is neither.

 

[Deleted member 4159]

They're a compliment to a good face and height. You never hear them saying they want muscles on an average or ugly guy.

 

[Words2_live_bye]

muscles dont matter too much,it's mainly frame.

 

[TheGambler2]

Please god tell me u realise that one is hugely photoshopped or are u actually that low iq?

are you that low iq to think everyone has same clavicle length?

 

[Wonder]

Muscles are meanignless without good face and frame.

 

[needsolution]

muscles dont matter too much,it's mainly frame.

lifefuel for me since i got decent frame

 

[Angry_runt]

lifefuel for me since i got decent frame

For the little muscles help, they help most if you have a good frame. Maybe try out weightlifting for a few years and see how it goes?

 

[needsolution]

For the little muscles help, they help most if you have a good frame. Maybe try out weightlifting for a few years and see how it goes?

im 43kg bro, i need to gain little right now if i dont want to die

 

[SlayerSlayer]

What they mean is no gymcels.

 

[Nolifer88]

massive cope.yeah bro all skeletons are same women will be drooling over this musclular god on the left


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[BlackWizard]

Foids love swimmer's body... decent muscles on a great frame, that's what they really want. bones signal genetic quality, not muscles.

everything you can acquire through hard work doesn't really matter to women.

 

[Angry_runt]

im 43kg bro, i need to gain little right now if i dont want to die

So why not just eat and start hitting the weights? If your GI tract is fine and you don't have a disability or something, then you have the opposite of a problem. It probably won't get you foids but it's fun and mentally rewarding to progress in something even if it's just putting meat on your bones and increasing your strength.

 

[needsolution]

So why not just eat and start hitting the weights? If your GI tract is fine and you don't have a disability or something, then you have the opposite of a problem. It probably won't get you foids but it's fun and mentally rewarding to progress in something even if it's just putting meat on your bones and increasing your strength.

i have diablility (leg) and cant lift for now, hoping to start this year.

 

[micropenis29]

everything you can acquire through hard work doesn't really matter to women.

The ultimate suifuel. Genes are everything.

 

[seija]

Females are full of shit on literally anything.

 

[Deleted member 19858]

it’s all about bones my man

 

[Deleted member 20434]

Lol @ thinking muscles matter.. U just need to be tall with good face and white “bro”

Edit:
don’t forget “pErSoNaLiTy”

 

[mylifeistrash]

muscles matter

if you're a tall white or black guy who is lean with a full head of hair

other than that, it's like dressing up a turd

 

[Inceljoe]

are you that low iq to think everyone has same clavicle length?

Do u think that picture is real, answer me. I need to know if you are this fucking stupid. And no, they dont, but the difference is VERY small in human males, if you didnt know that.

 

[zangano1]

That's a good thing because you can just work out and get them

 

[littlemanhikicel]

Foids are raising their standards everyday everything matters

 

[TheGambler2]

Do u think that picture is real, answer me. I need to know if you are this fucking stupid. And no, they dont, but the difference is VERY small in human males, if you didnt know that.

I don't care if they are morphed,I just wanted to give some example.There are men who have narrow clavicles and wide hips/waist.And there are people with wide clavicles and narrow hips/waist.The former ones often look better without gymcelling than the first ones who go to gym every week.And girls prefer them,since they are genetically superior

 

[Inceljoe]

I don't care if they are morphed,I just wanted to give some example.There are men who have narrow clavicles and wide hips/waist.And there are people with wide clavicles and narrow hips/waist.The former ones often look better without gymcelling than the first ones who go to gym every week.And girls prefer them,since they are genetically superior

Lol, the tiny percentage of men who have SUCH TINY CLAVICLES doesnt almost even exist, its such a small percentage, its almost deformed. The VASTE MAJORITY of males have completely average/fine clavicle lenght and it can become VERY MUCH BIGGER with gym, especially if you use steroids.

Look at all the damn bodybuilders who stop training and working out, within a couple of years their "frame" shrinks like 50%, they look like regular dudes. But while on hormones and training, they are WIDE AS FUCK.

All this frame nonsense is such cope by lazy losers really, Im a lazy loser too, but atleast I dont cope about it.