I See Very Little Difference Between Adultery and Pre-Marital Sex

[ItheIthe]

What's the difference between a girl getting fucked by another guy a few weeks into dating you vs. a girl getting defiled by another guy(s) a few weeks before meeting you? I hardly see any.

In either case she has given her body to another man. In either case she will never be fully yours. In either case you will never be her one and only. In either case another man (men) have seen every square centimeter of her body. In either case she has had another man's dick penetrate her. In either case she has experienced the most intimate feeling with another man.

I only see about a 1% difference. I will never marry a nonvirgin lol. And I'm not worthy to marry a virgin myself so I'll be alone, but honestly I prefer it this way.

 

[blackpill_incel]

Premarital sex IS adultery. Says so in the bible

 

[ItheIthe]

Premarital sex IS adultery. Says so in the bible

What verse? Either way they're very similar. You are cheating your spouse out of being your one and only, as it should be.

 

[RREEEEEEEEE]

It's the same basically.

 

[TheVman]

I don't give a fuck about your autstic religious moral fag rantings

 

[blackpill_incel]

What verse? Either way they're very similar. You are cheating your spouse out of being your one and only, as it should be.

[font=Georgia,]Matthew 19:4-5; quoting from Genesis 1:27, 2:24[/font]

[font=Georgia,][size=large][font=Georgia,]Hebrews 13:4[/font][/font][/size]

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I don't give a fuck about your autstic religious moral fag rantings

I was considering giving you money through PayPal but seeing that you're a degenerate, this will not be happening

 

[TheVman]

I was considering giving you money through PayPal but seeing that you're a degenerate, this will not be happening

If god is real and cares about you(us) why did he make us like this? why did he doom us to a life of suffering? I was a good kid. I never deserved this.

So fuck god, and fuck u too. chino xl fuck you too

 

[ItheIthe]

I don't give a fuck about your autstic religious moral fag rantings

I'm not saying these things because I feel it is my religious duties. This is genuinely how I feel.

 

[Sub8Hate]

If god is real and cares about you(us) why did he make us like this? why did he doom us to a life of suffering? I was a good kid. I never deserved this.

So fuck god, and fuck u too. chino xl fuck you too

Why so angry brocel?

 

[ItheIthe]

If god is real and cares about you(us) why did he make us like this? why did he doom us to a life of suffering? I was a good kid. I never deserved this.

So fuck god, and fuck u too. chino xl fuck you too

Blame hpyergamy, not God. If this adulterous society didn't go cheating and sifting in and out of relationships, hypergamy wouldn;t be so bad.

 

[TheVman]

If god is real and cares about you(us) why did he make us like this? why did he doom us to a life of suffering? I was a good kid. I never deserved this.
So fuck god, and fuck u too. chino xl fuck you too

Why so angry brocel?

Because im sleepy and can't go home until my roomates fall asleep or else they will torture me

 

[blackpill_incel]

If god is real and cares about you(us) why did he make us like this? why did he doom us to a life of suffering? I was a good kid. I never deserved this.

So fuck god, and fuck u too. chino xl fuck you too

We can't blame God. God isn't making us suffer and humans can never really know why we suffer (book of Job).

Have fun being broke

 

[Chadwitha5head]

What's the difference between a girl getting fucked by another guy a few weeks into dating you vs. a girl getting defiled by another guy(s) a few weeks before meeting you? I hardly see any.

In either case she has given her body to another man. In either case she will never be fully yours. In either case you will never be her one and only. In either case another man (men) have seen every square centimeter of her body. In either case she has had another man's dick penetrate her. In either case she has experienced the most intimate feeling with another man.

I only see about a 1% difference. I will never marry a nonvirgin lol. And I'm not worthy to marry a virgin myself so I'll be alone, but honestly I prefer it this way.

But do you think that it is ok for men to be non virgins?

 

[TheVman]

Blame hpyergamy, not God. If this adulterous society didn't go cheating and sifting in and out of relationships, hypergamy wouldn;t be so bad.

God put hypergamy trait in women. I don't care, Nothing will stop me from doing what i want, for a god that made me suffer like this. If i ever get a chance to have sex pre martial i will 100% jump on it

 

[ItheIthe]

But do you think that it is ok for men to be non virgins?

No, I said that in the OP.

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God put hypergamy trait in women. I don't care, Nothing will stop me from doing what i want, for a god that made me suffer like this. If i ever get a chance to have sex pre martial i will 100% jump on it

Sin destroys thyself. There's nothing fun about wandering off into the darkness. It's only self-destructive.

And evolutionarycels are coping, in the good days hypergamy was curbed by marrying off people young, and stoning adulterers. All you need is a good young marriage paired with punishment and it will decrease, but no, people would rather have MUH PERSONAL FREEDOM

 

[NYincel]

But do you think that it is ok for men to be non virgins?

Absolutely not, it is a mortal sin on many levels. There was always stigma attached to it.
You are supposed to have one woman as your one and only, and register it with God as a marriage.

Just like you don't 'borrow' a random car. You register it to yourself and it is yours.

 

[Buzzcut]

you are right, there's no difference

the motive behind both is the same :lust. And since lust is a mere instict , people who identify with it are animals and have lost the meaning of life that is logical love. Biggest proof of this is that it doesn't lead to marriage and procreation, thefore it has a perishable nature.

 

[Chadwitha5head]

Absolutely not, it is a mortal sin on many levels. There was always stigma attached to it.
You are supposed to have one woman as your one and only, and register it with God as a marriage.

Just like you don't 'borrow' a random car. You register it to yourself and it is yours.

What about porn, masterbaition, or flirting/sexting?

 

[NYincel]

No, I said that in the OP.

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Sin destroys thyself. There's nothing fun about wandering off into the darkness. It's only self-destructive.

And evolutionarycels are coping, in the good days hypergamy was curbed by marrying off people young, and stoning adulterers. All you need is a good young marriage paired with punishment and it will decrease, but no, people would rather have MUH PERSONAL FREEDOM

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Even secular cultures (like pre 1960s America) had decency laws. Porn was a federal offense. Married couples on TV or movies had two beds in their bedroom (even movies had decency laws). Fuck, premarital sex is still on the books in a few states. You got that right, it is a criminal offense that is not enforced. Technically if someone wanted to throw the book at someone the law could be used.

 

[ItheIthe]

What about porn, masterbaition, or flirting/sexting?

Sexting is wrong.

Porn/Masturbation is wrong technically, but it's what's going to happen when you have loads of single adults. This is why you need teen marriages like many societies throughout history did. I blame the system for this more than people.

Also porn while married is wrong, it's having an adulterous heart and I wouldn't do it. Just lol @ the fact that some "couples" watch porn together.

 

[NYincel]

What about porn, masterbaition, or flirting/sexting?

Forbidden by Judaeo-Christian laws.
Masturbation is a big sin 
Lust is forbidden (porno would fall into that category). Porn exists as a masturbation catalyst.

Maybe some light flirting in the sense of a courtship may be ok.

Society is very corrupt, women often settled for a guy and had children and knew their role. They werent bombarded with photoshopped Steroid tinder guys. What is going on now is Sodom and Gemmorah.

 

[ItheIthe]

Forbidden by Judaeo-Christian laws.
Masturbation is a big sin 
Lust is forbidden (porno would fall into that category). Porn exists as a masturbation catalyst.

Maybe some light flirting in the sense of a courtship may be ok.

Society is very corrupt, women often settled for a guy and had children and knew their role. They werent bombarded with photoshopped Steroid tinder guys. What is going on now is Sodom and Gemmorah.

I don't see how you can say anyone who masturbates is completely depraed when you have hundreds of millions of single men in their 20's. It's only natural. We need teen marriage now.

 

[NYincel]

I think in the end all guys are fucked. Yeah, Chad could get his dick wet in some STDs whores hole. But in the end she will never truly love him, she could always open an app and find a younger MOG guy. She could divorce chad too with no faults, take all his money and move in with some other dude. No guy is special to a woman after they fucked 100 guys, anyone who believe otherwise is delusional.

 

[Sub8Hate]

Only Chad can score a virgin, only he can break her. No virgin is going to give it up to an incel. You have to be a bit more realistic... If you're so worried about getting 0 validation, then jump on that shit my nigga.

 

[ItheIthe]

I think in the end all guys are fucked. Yeah, Chad could get his dick wet in some STDs whores hole. But in the end she will never truly love him, she could always open an app and find a younger MOG guy. She could divorce chad too with no faults, take all his money and move in with some other dude. No guy is special to a woman after they fucked 100 guys, anyone who believe otherwise is delusional.

No guy is 100% special after she has so much as taken one another dick.

Virgin or nothing.

 

[NYincel]

I don't see how you can say anyone who masturbates is completely depraed when you have hundreds of millions of single men in their 20's. It's only natural. We need teen marriage now.

It is part of the whole machine though. It was very natural to marry before 21 and men could avoid it as much as possible. The marriage age along with the entire culture promotes it as ok. Look, homosexuality was one of the worst sins you could do at one time. States had serious felony laws prohibiting it. Now it is completely acceptable. I fucking don't know what to say. 

I know MGTOW has many assholes but they have a point. Never in human history did men have such serious negative feelings and sentiment about women. These are men who COULD get women too, and choose to avoid them. Something is just not right.

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No guy is 100% special after she has so much as taken one another dick.

Virgin or nothing.

I agree, but in 2018 I'm a realist too.

 

[ItheIthe]

It is part of the whole machine though. It was very natural to marry before 21 and men could avoid it as much as possible. The marriage age along with the entire culture promotes it as ok. Look, homosexuality was one of the worst sins you could do at one time. States had serious felony laws prohibiting it. Now it is completely acceptable. I fucking don't know what to say. 

I know MGTOW has many assholes but they have a point. Never in human history did men have such serious negative feelings and sentiment about women. These are men who COULD get women too, and choose to avoid them. Something is just not right.

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I agree, but in 2018 I'm a realist too.

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I'm content with dying alone. I don't care.

 

[Akarin]

I don't give a fuck about your autstic religious moral fag rantings

it has nothing with religion, I'm an atheist and I think that unmarried women who had sex should be stoned

 

[NYincel]

it has nothing with religion, I'm an atheist and I think that unmarried women who had sex should be stoned

Secular society had these rules. Homosexual acts  and premarital sex was illegal up to 50 years ago. All of the sudden it became ok.

 

[dawn]

it has nothing with religion, I'm an atheist and I think that unmarried women who had sex should be stoned

Why only women ? Should not men be treated similarly.

 

[Akarin]

Why only women ? Should not men be treated similarly.

of course, I'm not a hypocrite

 

[ItheIthe]

Why only women ? Should not men be treated similarly.

I said in the OP it applies to men as well

 

[Chadwitha5head]

Sexting is wrong.

Porn/Masturbation is wrong technically, but it's what's going to happen when you have loads of single adults. This is why you need teen marriages like many societies throughout history did. I blame the system for this more than people.

Also porn while married is wrong, it's having an adulterous heart and I wouldn't do it. Just lol @ the fact that some "couples" watch porn together.

Well, I am not sin free.  I was not raised with religon, and when I fell on hard times I masturbated, I first found it before I even new what religon was.  (although I am still a virgin, have not even kissed a girl) However, I am willing to put that behind me, as I have been trying for some time now, I can say it is not easy, the longest I went was almost a year, and each time I have stopped It has been for longer and longer  (it was never about porn, more about masturbation, but I did watch porn).  Long story short I am now 16, and 15 year old likes me.  From what I can tell she is inoccent, more inoccent than me.  But, as said before I am willing to leave all of that behind.  Is it moral for me to be with her, even If I am or was a sinner.  we still are in that age of teen marriages that you seem to love so much.

 

[Incel_Dikshit]

True

 

[ItheIthe]

Well, I am not sin free.  I was not raised with religon, and when I fell on hard times I masturbated, I first found it before I even new what religon was.  (although I am still a virgin, have not even kissed a girl) However, I am willing to put that behind me, as I have been trying for some time now, I can say it is not easy, the longest I went was almost a year, and each time I have stopped It has been for longer and longer  (it was never about porn, more about masturbation, but I did watch porn).  Long story short I am now 16, and 15 year old likes me.  From what I can tell she is inoccent, more inoccent than me.  But, as said before I am willing to leave all of that behind.  Is it moral for me to be with her, even If I am or was a sinner.  we still are in that age of teen marriages that you seem to love so much.

Go for her. No one is without sin. Sure, you masturbated. But you haven't physically been with another woman. Big difference. Get them in high school before they've taken other dicks.

 

[St.Tropez]

[font=Georgia,]Matthew 19:4-5; quoting from Genesis 1:27, 2:24[/font]

[font=Georgia,][size=large][font=Georgia,]Hebrews 13:4[/font][/font][/size]

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I was considering giving you money through PayPal but seeing that you're a degenerate, this will not be happening

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What about me? I am not a degenerate!

 

[Chadwitha5head]

Go for her. No one is without sin. Sure, you masturbated. But you haven't physically been with another woman. Big difference. Get them in high school before they've taken other dicks.

Ok. Also, both of us are in community college, not highschool.  Thats what brought us close in the first place, was that we were the only ones our age.  (at that time 14/15)  It is very annoying that she gets hit on by 20 year old scumbags at the school, anyway to fix that?

 

[nausea]

In either case she has given her body to another man

you are obviously right but there is people on this forum who just pretend your postion is cope, and why? because they are degenerate themselves OR they think they won't be disgusted by it

in other words they are cucking themselves already in their minds, they just think " if I get this\that female I will be happy\satisfied no matter the degeneration"

they deluded fools

they are the philosophers of this forum, also notice their behaviour around

 

[ItheIthe]

Ok. Also, both of us are in community college, not highschool.  Thats what brought us close in the first place, was that we were the only ones our age.  (at that time 14/15)  It is very annoying that she gets hit on by 20 year old scumbags at the school, anyway to fix that?

Ask her out, but not right away. Build up to it through a week or two of texts

 

[Chadwitha5head]

Ask her out, but not right away. Build up to it through a week or two of texts

I plan to ask her out soon, and I have been building it up for months.  I know that she has had a crush on me for a few months.  I was the one slowing things down. She has dropped hints, and her friend told me that she said she thought I was cute.  My fear was that I could not do right by her, and I stalled asking her out cus of my depression. My sinful past was something that held me back.  I was sinning litteraly before I new what It was, and that shit messed me up.  But I think I am mentally in a place where I can really give her my heart.

 

[ItheIthe]

I plan to ask her out soon, and I have been building it up for months.  I know that she has had a crush on me for a few months.  I was the one slowing things down. She has dropped hints, and her friend told me that she said she thought I was cute.  My fear was that I could not do right by her, and I stalled asking her out cus of my depression. My sinful past was something that held me back.  I was sinning litteraly before I new what It was, and that shit messed me up.  But I think I am mentally in a place where I can really give her my heart.

There is nothing more special than being each other's first. It's a true love. If you really love her then you shouldn't have much of a problem stopping porn. Definitely ask her out. PM me for help if you need some in a relationship. Don't get full of self-doubt either.

And remember that whatever happens in a relationship (Except for her cheating), stick by her. So many guys will move on out of irritation or boredom and it's just so foolish.

 

[Chadwitha5head]

There is nothing more special than being each other's first. It's a true love. If you really love her then you shouldn't have much of a problem stopping porn. Definitely ask her out. PM me for help if you need some in a relationship. Don't get full of self-doubt either.

And remember that whatever happens in a relationship (Except for her cheating), stick by her. So many guys will move on out of irritation or boredom and it's just so foolish.

Well she is not my first if you mean gf, I once had a long distance gf.  But yeah, I have stayed clear of porn pretty well over the last year. (and again I never had a porn addiction, only a masterbaiton one, so I never lusted for any of the girls I saw.) I will try to stick by her.  It way be hard beacuse I will tranfer away in a few months, and then I will be about 45 minutes away, but as long as she is happy I will not care.

 

[ItheIthe]

Well she is not my first if you mean gf, I once had a long distance gf.  But yeah, I have stayed clear of porn pretty well over the last year. (and again I never had a porn addiction, only a masterbaiton one, so I never lusted for any of the girls I saw.) I will try to stick by her.  It way be hard beacuse I will tranfer away in a few months, and then I will be about 45 minutes away, but as long as she is happy I will not care.

Find a way to make it work bro