Serious I resent society not because it values beauty, but because it lies about it

[Fontaine]

I can't claim to speak for every "incel" on this forum, but personally, what causes anger in me is not celibacy or being ugly. It's the lies society likes to tell about physical appearance.

Celibacy, having to live with ugliness and deformity: it doesn't cause anger in me. Just cold resignation. I got the short stick in the genetic lottery, I understand that; at my age you stop caring so much about it, and you learn to live with it like someone would live with a wooden leg or a blind eye.

However, the lies people tell about all this: it definitely still causes anger to rise up inside me. Because it makes me think you're either stupid or malicious.

Unless you truly are stupid, you know that physical appearance is what matters most in dating (I mean, it has been recognized as fact for millenia: the first matchmaking services revolved solely on pictures). So if you deny it, I can only assume you're trying to hurt the ugly by feeding them false hopes, or demeaning their legitimate defeatism. A kind of faux empathy that just serves your virtue signaling, makes you feel superior to them, and doesn't help them at all. If you truly want to help, help them improve their looks. Their personality may suck too, but focusing solely on their bad personality is both unfair and demeaning. Especially when they probably have a bad personality as a result of past bad treatment.

 

[Incellectual]

I feel similarly tbh. I've accepted my fate long ago but the fact that others pretend to be blind to what I have to go through makes me rage.

 

[Aarvind]

Yes, what is also infuriating is the outright ignorance within better looking people, of just how difficult it is for less attractive people, MEN ESPECIALLY.

For 7,8,9 and 10/10 people, its SO EASY for them to think "I have a normal healthy social lifestyle and romantic interest from people and have had many dates, these incels are just antisocial, insecure people with shitty personalities", and they have NO idea what its like to be judged, silently targeted, condemned and rejected because of your facial appearance.

 

[Initium]

What’s worse is how men are always publicly shamed for judging women based on appearance when studies show women are way more ruthless then men.

Not to mention the sexism when it comes to cosmetics, a foid can wear extensions, a wig and most have facial makeup down to a fukkin science. But if I wanna use foundation for a legitimate reason.....to cover my acne scars and redness I’m a fukkin weirdo and gay. If a baldcel wears a toupee or a wig he is ruthlessly made fun and devalued etc.

With all the talk about sexism these points are never brought up, because men can’t be victims and if they are they are made fun of and viewed as weak. But women are oppressed 24/7

 

[FiveFourManlet]

There is a reason why people are bluepilled and not blackpilled as a whole.

 

[Fontaine]

For 7,8,9 and 10/10 people, its SO EASY for them to think "I have a normal healthy social lifestyle and romantic interest from people and have had many dates, these incels are just antisocial, insecure people with shitty personalities"

The fact that empathy, true empathy, is so rare in humans proves our species is flawed.

Antisocial, insecure people - you're confusing cause and result. They became antisocial and insecure because they tended to be mistreated in the past, not the other way around. The fact you can't even understand that is proof you're not even aware of all your privileges.

 

[Aarvind]

The fact that empathy, true empathy, is so rare in humans proves our species is flawed.

Antisocial, insecure people - you're confusing cause and result. They became antisocial and insecure because they tended to be mistreated in the past, not the other way around. The fact you can't even understand that is proof you're not even aware of all your privileges.

Did you see my blackpill thread on value for attractiveness?

99.9% of people have zero empathy except for an attractive member of the opposite sex. Its virtually unheard of to meet people in real life who truly care for you with no expectation of anything in return. True, genuine empathy and care for your fellow human being doesnt exist anymore, except in rare individuals, and the rest of the population when they want to fuck a hot person

The fact that empathy, true empathy, is so rare in humans proves our species is flawed.

Antisocial, insecure people - you're confusing cause and result. They became antisocial and insecure because they tended to be mistreated in the past, not the other way around. The fact you can't even understand that is proof you're not even aware of all your privileges.

Im not confusing anything dude, im saying thats the way that normies think, and normies get confused on it. eg YOU CANT GET LAID COS UR AN ASSHOLE
>not a single moment of critical thought as to what may be the cause for someone developing into an asshole

Gee I wonder, maybe years of rejection, mistreatment, bullying and isolation could be a factor? O_o fucking normies man.

 

[Life Wasted]

Society is based on lies. We as a species are primarily looks based. If you come up short in that regard you are at severe disadvantage. It is cruel to try to delude the genetically inferior with nonsensical platitudes that personality is all you need. The truth is often preferable to the lie no matter how uncomfortable it may be. At least then we can go about trying to address the problem honestly.

 

[Deleted member 10124]

I can't claim to speak for every "incel" on this forum, but personally, what causes anger in me is not celibacy or being ugly. It's the lies society likes to tell about physical appearance.

Celibacy, having to live with ugliness and deformity: it doesn't cause anger in me. Just cold resignation. I got the short stick in the genetic lottery, I understand that; at my age you stop caring so much about it, and you learn to live with it like someone would live with a wooden leg or a blind eye.

However, the lies people tell about all this: it definitely still causes anger to rise up inside me. Because it makes me think you're either stupid or malicious.

Unless you truly are stupid, you know that physical appearance is what matters most in dating (I mean, it has been recognized as fact for millenia: the first matchmaking services revolved solely on pictures). So if you deny it, I can only assume you're trying to hurt the ugly by feeding them false hopes, or demeaning their legitimate defeatism. A kind of faux empathy that just serves your virtue signaling, makes you feel superior to them, and doesn't help them at all. If you truly want to help, help them improve their looks. Their personality may suck too, but focusing solely on their bad personality is both unfair and demeaning. Especially when they probably have a bad personality as a result of past bad treatment.

Boom. This.

I feel similarly tbh. I've accepted my fate long ago but the fact that others pretend to be blind to what I have to go through makes me rage.

 

[Deleted member 1042]

Since there’s talk of empathy and there being a bit of a relationship between that and altruism, I just wanna say true altruism is very much a mental illness.

 

[blackerthancoal]

I'm still hopeful

 

[incelgration]

Don't judge book by it's cover teehee.

 

[StaroRavager]

For 7,8,9 and 10/10 people, its SO EASY for them to think "I have a normal healthy social lifestyle and romantic interest from people and have had many dates, these incels are just antisocial, insecure people with shitty personalities", and they have NO idea what its like to be judged, silently targeted, condemned and rejected because of your facial appearance.

“It’s like we’re living in two different worlds”-Eggy

 

[Deleted member 10124]

Society is based on lies. We as a species are primarily looks based. If you come up short in that regard you are at severe disadvantage. It is cruel to try to delude the genetically inferior with nonsensical platitudes that personality is all you need. The truth is often preferable to the lie no matter how uncomfortable it may be. At least then we can go about trying to address the problem honestly.

The fact that empathy, true empathy, is so rare in humans proves our species is flawed.

Antisocial, insecure people - you're confusing cause and result. They became antisocial and insecure because they tended to be mistreated in the past, not the other way around. The fact you can't even understand that is proof you're not even aware of all your privileges.

 

[Deleted member 4159]

I completely agree. The average person isn't butthurt over not becoming a pro athlete, because they never had that expectation to begin with. Not only does society lie to you about something you have no control over, they judge you for not being able to make it happen. What makes it worse is that people will not talk about it, and other people in the same situation as you lie about it, making you feel even more alone.

 

[Anger]

Normalcucks prefer to live in world made of lies than face reality since their little egos and beliefs would crumble.

 

[VisVoi]

"High IQ"

 

[jerrycan dan]

Good post tbqhwu, it would be much better if society took the realities of blackpill into account instead of doubling down on bluepill thinking whenever possible.

 

[A10n3]

Good thread. This remind me how, from my youngest age, I hated being told lies, even kind ones. I think it only hurted me more than anything. The humans aren't designed to tell lie, it causes only despair, suffering, treachery and entropy.
And once again, Nietzsche spoke about this too. He said a man who is admittedly doing evil things is much more respectable than someone who is doing good things but for the sole purpose of dressing himself with a veil of morality. Authenticity, wether in bad or good deeds, is much more respectable than hypocrisy.

 

[TakeTheBlackPill]

Hypergamy, sexual freedom, etc is what makes me mad

 

[CountNeon]

Society is based on lies. We as a species are primarily looks based. If you come up short in that regard you are at severe disadvantage. It is cruel to try to delude the genetically inferior with nonsensical platitudes that personality is all you need. The truth is often preferable to the lie no matter how uncomfortable it may be. At least then we can go about trying to address the problem honestly.

Incredible post brother, should be archived.

 

[Inbuddhist]

High IQ like usual.

 

[GeneticDysfunction]

Nibba they dont care we are meant to wagecuck and suffer in silence then die anything else is bp or trp bullshit

 

[Socratescel]

Only men are called shallow for caring about looks, because society thinks women can't be wrong, when in reality the opposite couldn't be more true - men care about their femoid's personality and want her to be cute and submissive, or at least nice while femoids will go with abusive chads or criminals because of their looks

 

[Hunter]

this.

 

[Smallus Dickus]

So much yes. It never began for me, but people lied to me about it and I've lost so much time, money and I've been hurt so many times. If I could travel back to teenage me 15 years ago and just told my younger self that it's over, my life and mental health would be much better. But nobody really cared about me, my parents thought that if I have food and shelter that's all I need and never really even talked with me. If I complied there were always 'you are fine, stop complaining. Also looks aren't important, be confident'.
And of course they were complaining 24/h, usually about finances. And that still angers me so much, people complain about fucking money, just earn more. I can't change my chronic pain or that I'm ugly etc. If you have average amount of money it's enough, and if it's not enough for you just work harder and more. I have some money but I don't care because I can't buy anything I want.