LifeFuel I May Be Moving to Canada

[Deleted member 43188]

Yeah.

People will always be racist and that goes with the police.

It's human nature to judge other people based on their appearance or "membership" into a group, and to treat people differently who aren't one of their own.

Trump is already out, 'bout time people stopped talking to him.

Biden already is problematic due to his declining ability to reason and his cabinet instituting a Ministry of Truth.

>It's human nature to judge other people based on their appearance or "membership" into a group, and to treat people differently who aren't one of their own.

I believe we can squash out racism or at least greatly reduce it. I'm a Liberal at heart and think we can eradicate it from our psych.

>Trump is already out, 'bout time people stopped talking to him.

Trump still controls the Republican party from behind the scene, his power is still very close to that of Bidens. He has empowered DeSantis and Governor Abbott.

>Biden already is problematic due to his declining ability to reason and his cabinet instituting a Ministry of Truth.

I support that. It's not censorship, they just wanted to label misinformation as misinformation. If they were going to censor people I would be against it, but the ministry of misinformation was just to let people know what's true and false.

 

[Deleted member 43188]

Lucky, my parents are forcing me to studymaxx for the GRE and go to grad school
Was it difficult to get hired in financial consulting after only undergrad?

HOLY FUCK YES

I was literally worried i was going to go HOMELESS. I applied to so many places, possibly over 1000. Every night in college i would just be applying to different places and writing CVs... I got a few interviews, never led to any... then just before Grad i was about to give up and finally i got an offer. I jumped on it like no one knows.

 

[Monke]

Goodcuck with your endeavour.
I don't share your fear of guns, but you so you. Hope you'll enjoy it there

 

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HOLY FUCK YES

I was literally worried i was going to go HOMELESS. I applied to so many places, possibly over 1000. Every night in college i would just be applying to different places and writing CVs... I got a few interviews, never led to any... then just before Grad i was about to give up and finally i got an offer. I jumped on it like no one knows.

My parents also got me an internship at a major bank through connections with an executive at a bank. As an autist trucel who would probably not get the internship except for family connection, what should I expect?

 

[Alone75]

Oh good luck, hope things work out better for you in Canada. Also I think Canadian white foids are hotter than Amerimutts and obese Mexicunts that are the norm there now. But Canada has a lot of noodles and curries now too.

 

[Rambocel]

Thanks man, appreciate the gesture.


Canada is a free and safe country. A country that values democracy and human rights. America is a capitalist/fascist shithole run by oligarchs with zero human rights and where your life doesn't matter.

Well you got that right about this place. It's hardly a British colony. That shit is purely traditional. The UK or queen or whatever have zero sway here. Lots of people want to even get rid the whole thing. The only place you see the queen is on coins and the 20 bill. That will soon be changed as the 10 was.

Anyway, don't know what you're on about the physical attractiveness. I've spent lots of time in the States including NY and all up the east. I didn't see anyone that hot. Some but the same or even less than Canada. The foods her are a little less trashy and winter means their fragile skin isn't damaged as much as per little sunlight and lots of clothes.

But that's irrelevant. NY gets as shit as all of Canada. Except Vancouver at that area of BC. Only place where it rarely snows and hovers around 0 in winter. Rest of the country sees sub -10 all the way to -40 or worse on the regular in winter.

 

[Deleted member 43188]

My parents also got me an internship at a major bank through connections with an executive at a bank. As an autist trucel who would probably not get the internship except for family connection, what should I expect?

Oh then you're golden, you got your life set out for you, that' awesome.

 

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Oh then you're golden, you got your life set out for you, that' awesome.

The executive guy at the bank still hasn’t met me and might not like me or keep me around when he does. I just got this internship as a favor to my parents. What should I expect since this would be my first work experience in the “real world” ?

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

Escortceling here makes it so only the male gets in trouble. Imagine if only drug users got in trouble and not drug sellers. This is just blatant sexism and hatred against ugly and socially retarded males.

True, these cucked laws are designed to punish men since virtually the only group of people desperate enough to pay for sex are males. Females don't have to pay for sex obviously and females are always seen as victims.

White canadians mog white americans to oblivion.

This is because white americans are roughly 33% german, 30% irish whereas white canadians are mostly white anglos.

English-speaking "Canadians" are mostly Anglo-Scottish. French Canadiens are also a mix of Anglo and French.

>It's human nature to judge other people based on their appearance or "membership" into a group, and to treat people differently who aren't one of their own.

I believe we can squash out racism or at least greatly reduce it. I'm a Liberal at heart and think we can eradicate it from our psych.

Human nature is something that is very hard to overcome via nuture. Everyone is judgmental on people who look different from us, even yourself whether you want to admit it or not.

Now that doesn't mean that being racist is okay, but there will always be racist people.

>Trump is already out, 'bout time people stopped talking to him.

Trump still controls the Republican party from behind the scene, his power is still very close to that of Bidens. He has empowered DeSantis and Governor Abbott.

Trump still can't do anything right now. Sure, he might left his legacy and there might be people in politics that are inspired by him. But he's gone now and idk if he would ever run again.

>Biden already is problematic due to his declining ability to reason and his cabinet instituting a Ministry of Truth.

I support that. It's not censorship, they just wanted to label misinformation as misinformation. If they were going to censor people I would be against it, but the ministry of misinformation was just to let people know what's true and false.

It's still censorship. You can't tell what is truth and what is false, they have the power to label anything as "misinformation" that don't follow their agenda.

Well you got that right about this place. It's hardly a British colony. That shit is purely traditional. The UK or queen or whatever have zero sway here. Lots of people want to even get rid the whole thing. The only place you see the queen is on coins and the 20 bill. That will soon be changed as the 10 was.

Nah, "Canada" is still loyal to the Brits as a way to differentiate itself from Americans. "Canada" is basically a parallel America of what would happen if the Brits won the Revolutionary War and kept their colony.

If "Canada" ever wanted to get rid of its monarchy and become a republic, I don't know how else "Canada" can distingish itself from the U.S. without its "Britishness" (being in the Commonwealth, celebrating British holidays like Victoria Day, Boxing Day and Memorial Day and wearing red flower pins, using Union Jacks in its provincial flags, using British spelling, having places named after royalty).

Might as well get annexed by the U.S. at that point.

Anyway, don't know what you're on about the physical attractiveness. I've spent lots of time in the States including NY and all up the east. I didn't see anyone that hot. Some but the same or even less than Canada. The foods her are a little less trashy and winter means their fragile skin isn't damaged as much as per little sunlight and lots of clothes.

I don't know how healthy poutine is. Every Anglo country has an obesity problem.

But "Canadian" foids have more tendency of being one of those feminist rainbow-colored dykes with tattoos and piercings covering their entire bodies and armpit hair and smelling like fritos.

[UWSL]But that's irrelevant. NY gets as shit as all of Canada. Except Vancouver at that area of BC. Only place where it rarely snows and hovers around 0 in winter. Rest of the country sees sub -10 all the way to -40 or worse on the regular in winter.[/UWSL]

True. It's summer rn and very warm and it gets really cold here in winter.

Toronto ain't that far up in terms of latitude, it's almost the same as Boston.

 

[Deleted member 43188]

The executive guy at the bank still hasn’t met me and might not like me or keep me around when he does. I just got this internship as a favor to my parents. What should I expect since this would be my first work experience in the “real world” ?

I don't know the corporate culture at the bank but mine is basically HS all over again. The Chads and Stacies in the office openly flirt and touch each other and giggle and im just there.

I even got complained about for not fitting in with the corporate culture despite trying to fit in with everyone.

 

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I don't know the corporate culture at the bank but mine is basically HS all over again. The Chads and Stacies in the office openly flirt and touch each other and giggle and im just there.

I even got complained about for not fitting in with the corporate culture despite trying to fit in with everyone.

Sounds giga brutal I should probably be prepared for that
How do they treat you and how do you prevent HR for harassing or kicking you out for not “fitting in with corporate culture”

HS was brutal for me. I went to a “smart” high school but it was the same shit. Chads grabbing foids all day and I was getting bullied, even beat up sometimes.

 

[Deleted member 43188]

True, these cucked laws are designed to punish men since virtually the only group of people desperate enough to pay for sex are males. Females don't have to pay for sex obviously and females are always seen as victims.

English-speaking "Canadians" are mostly Anglo-Scottish. French Canadiens are also a mix of Anglo and French.

Human nature is something that is very hard to overcome via nuture. Everyone is judgmental on people who look different from us, even yourself whether you want to admit it or not.

Now that doesn't mean that being racist is okay, but there will always be racist people.

Trump still can't do anything right now. Sure, he might left his legacy and there might be people in politics that are inspired by him. But he's gone now and idk if he would ever run again.

It's still censorship. You can't tell what is truth and what is false, they have the power to label anything as "misinformation" that don't follow their agenda.

Nah, "Canada" is still loyal to the Brits as a way to differentiate itself from Americans. "Canada" is basically a parallel America of what would happen if the Brits won the Revolutionary War and kept their colony.

If "Canada" ever wanted to get rid of its monarchy and become a republic, I don't know how else "Canada" can distingish itself from the U.S. without its "Britishness" (being in the Commonwealth, celebrating British holidays like Victoria Day, Boxing Day and Memorial Day and wearing red flower pins, using Union Jacks in its provincial flags, using British spelling, having places named after royalty).

Might as well get annexed by the U.S. at that point.

I don't know how healthy poutine is. Every Anglo country has an obesity problem.

But "Canadian" foids have more tendency of being one of those feminist rainbow-colored dykes with tattoos and piercings covering their entire bodies and armpit hair and smelling like fritos.

True. It's summer rn and very warm and it gets really cold here in winter.

Toronto ain't that far up in terms of latitude, it's almost the same as Boston.

>Human nature is something that is very hard to overcome via nuture. Everyone is judgmental on people who look different from us, even yourself whether you want to admit it or not.

We've eradicated anti-Irish racism, anti-Italian racism, anti-Polish racism, why can't we do the same with others.

>If "Canada" ever wanted to get rid of its monarchy and become a republic, I don't know how else "Canada" can distingish itself from the U.S. without its "Britishness" (being in the Commonwealth, celebrating British holidays like Victoria Day, Boxing Day and Memorial Day and wearing red flower pins, using Union Jacks in its provincial flags, using British spelling, having places named after royalty).

But it doesn't matter if it's still a better country.

>Trump still can't do anything right now. Sure, he might left his legacy and there might be people in politics that are inspired by him. But he's gone now and idk if he would ever run again.

Trump is about to take control of the House of Representatives, he also has Manchin in his pocket on the Democratic side, the man is powerful as hell.

>It's still censorship. You can't tell what is truth and what is false, they have the power to label anything as "misinformation" that don't follow their agenda.

I disagree, I think censorship is blocking speech, not simply saying something is false

 

[Deleted member 43188]

Sounds giga brutal I should probably be prepared for that
How do they treat you and how do you prevent HR for harassing or kicking you out for not “fitting in with corporate culture”

HS was brutal for me. I went to a “smart” high school but it was the same shit. Chads grabbing foids all day and I was getting bullied, even beat up sometimes.

>How do they treat you and how do you

They just ignore me.

Don't respond when i speak, don't make eyecontact, etc. One time when we were out they explicitly laughed at me because my shit smelled bad and made a huge fuss about it, I wrote a thread about this.

And basically when H.R told me that i was just very apologetic "I'm very sorry i'll try my best to fit in more i didn't realize i will do this and that" and im just SUPER apologetic.

 

[Incline]

My condolences.

 

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>How do they treat you and how do you

They just ignore me.

Don't respond when i speak, don't make eyecontact, etc. One time when we were out they explicitly laughed at me because my shit smelled bad and made a huge fuss about it, I wrote a thread about this.

And basically when H.R told me that i was just very apologetic "I'm very sorry i'll try my best to fit in more i didn't realize i will do this and that" and im just SUPER apologetic.

Giga brutal, I don’t know how I will cope if my internship is like this. Hopefully the executive guy who got me the internship will protect me from this shit if this bank has a similar culture which it probably does

I would expect people to behave in a more civilized since they are working in a financial institution and getting paid a lot but I guess not

Also fuck HR. They are already causing me issues and I haven’t even officially started yet

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

>Human nature is something that is very hard to overcome via nuture. Everyone is judgmental on people who look different from us, even yourself whether you want to admit it or not.

We've eradicated anti-Irish racism, anti-Italian racism, anti-Polish racism, why can't we do the same with others.

They're all white European groups, but stereotypes still exist.

Africans are a very different group.

>If "Canada" ever wanted to get rid of its monarchy and become a republic, I don't know how else "Canada" can distingish itself from the U.S. without its "Britishness" (being in the Commonwealth, celebrating British holidays like Victoria Day, Boxing Day and Memorial Day and wearing red flower pins, using Union Jacks in its provincial flags, using British spelling, having places named after royalty).

But it doesn't matter if it's still a better country.

America will still be a better country both economically and in terms of civil rights.

>Trump still can't do anything right now. Sure, he might left his legacy and there might be people in politics that are inspired by him. But he's gone now and idk if he would ever run again.

Trump is about to take control of the House of Representatives, he also has Manchin in his pocket on the Democratic side, the man is powerful as hell.

Don't know much of what's going on in Congress. But there are other top Republicans besides Trump who might go against Biden in the next election.

>It's still censorship. You can't tell what is truth and what is false, they have the power to label anything as "misinformation" that don't follow their agenda.

I disagree, I think censorship is blocking speech, not simply saying something is false

Labeling something as false is still a form of censorship when applying it to something they don't like and calling their own lie as true.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

My condolences.

Doesn't your country own "Canada"?

 

[Deleted member 43188]

They're all white European groups, but stereotypes still exist.

Africans are a very different group.

America will still be a better country both economically and in terms of civil rights.

Don't know much of what's going on in Congress. But there are other top Republicans besides Trump who might go against Biden in the next election.

Labeling something as false is still a form of censorship when applying it to something they don't like and calling their own lie as true.

>Africans are a very different group.

This is where we differ, I see no differences in people. I think we are all one universal race. Black people are as different to Nordics as the Polish are to Germans.

>America will still be a better country both economically and in terms of civil rights.

For the super rich maybe, but for the working class, Canada is far better in both issues.

>Don't know much of what's going on in Congress. But there are other top Republicans besides Trump who might go against Biden in the next election

I know, and I hope they're more moderate Republicans, ones that can put past partisan differences and fight for a good future.

>Labeling something as false is still a form of censorship when applying it to something they don't like and calling their own lie as true.

I don't agree at all. Aren't you in that case censoring the Biden administration by calling what they say lies?

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

>Africans are a very different group.

This is where we differ, I see no differences in people. I think we are all one universal race. Black people are as different to Nordics as the Polish are to Germans.

Race is real. There are genetic and cultural difference between different ethnic groups. And those difference are important to their individual identity.

Not every human being is the same slate.

>America will still be a better country both economically and in terms of civil rights.

For the super rich maybe, but for the working class, Canada is far better in both issues.

America still has better wages and work opportunity. And we still have assistance like food stamps and medicaid.

>Don't know much of what's going on in Congress. But there are other top Republicans besides Trump who might go against Biden in the next election

I know, and I hope they're more moderate Republicans, ones that can put past partisan differences and fight for a good future.

True.

>Labeling something as false is still a form of censorship when applying it to something they don't like and calling their own lie as true.

I don't agree at all. Aren't you in that case censoring the Biden administration by calling what they say lies?

Any truth can be called and lie and people would believe it. Any lie can be called truth and people would believe it. Just because an authority said so and if everyone else believes in it then you should to.

 

[Deleted member 43188]

Race is real. There are genetic and cultural difference between different ethnic groups. And those difference are important to their individual identity.

Not every human being is the same slate.

America still has better wages and work opportunity. And we still have assistance like food stamps and medicaid.

True.

Any truth can be called and lie and people would believe it. Any lie can be called truth and people would believe it. Just because an authority said so and if everyone else believes in it then you should to.

>Race is real. There are genetic and cultural difference between different ethnic groups. And those difference are important to their individual identity.

Study after study has debunked this idea. There is no significant difference between races that stem from genetic components. Scientists have debunked this a long time ago.

>America still has better wages and work opportunity. And we still have assistance like food stamps and medicaid.

America's welfare state is far worse than Canada's, and no, wages are LOWER in the U.S. In the U.S, many McDonalds pay people $8/hour, in Canada, they pay $17/hour.

>Any truth can be called and lie and people would believe it. Any lie can be called truth and people would believe it. Just because an authority said so and if everyone else believes in it then you should to.

So was it censorship when Trump called the media "fake news"?

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

>Race is real. There are genetic and cultural difference between different ethnic groups. And those difference are important to their individual identity.

Study after study has debunked this idea. There is no significant difference between races that stem from genetic components. Scientists have debunked this a long time ago.

Humans are very closely related yes. But there are still subtle but real genetic differences that sets the races apart.

Every race has a different origin and admixture of ancient people groups that migrated to many different parts of the world over time.

Culture is real. A black person isn't just "a white person with dark skin". Blacks and whites have different origins and cultures. It doesn't mean one is inferior than the other, but they are different.

>America still has better wages and work opportunity. And we still have assistance like food stamps and medicaid.

America's welfare state is far worse than Canada's, and no, wages are LOWER in the U.S. In the U.S, many McDonalds pay people $8/hour, in Canada, they pay $17/hour.

"Canadian" rainbow tickets are worth much less than American greenbacks. And minimum wage isn't the same throughout the U.S.

>Any truth can be called and lie and people would believe it. Any lie can be called truth and people would believe it. Just because an authority said so and if everyone else believes in it then you should to.

So was it censorship when Trump called the media "fake news"?

Main stream media is all propaganda. Their priority isn't to tell the unbiased truth, they're there to make money and to push an agenda to keep people consuming and force a narrative. Whether it's CNN or Fox News, they're both bullshit and controlled opposition. Even if they are telling the truth, they still twist it in a way that they only tell you want they want you to believe and ignore other details that give you a different point of view.

And yeah, you do see fake news on social media because many are gullible and what gets spread around people tend to believe it without bothering to verify it.

 

[Deleted member 43188]

Humans are very closely related yes. But there are still subtle but real genetic differences that sets the races apart.

Every race has a different origin and admixture of ancient people groups that migrated to many parts of the world over time.

Culture is real. A black person isn't just "a white person with dark skin". Blacks and whites have different origins and cultures. It doesn't mean one is inferior than the other, but they are different.

"Canadian" rainbow tickets are worth much less than American greenbacks. And minimum wage isn't the same throughout the U.S.
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Main stream media is all propaganda. Their priority isn't to tell the unbiased truth, they're there to make money and to push an agenda to keep people consuming and force a narrative. Whether it's CNN or Fox News, they're both bullshit and controlled opposition. Even if they are telling the truth, they still twist it in a way that they only tell you want they want you to believe and ignore other details that give you a different point of view.

And yeah, you do see fake news on social media because many are gullible and what gets spread around people tend to believe it without bothering to verify it.

>ulture is real. A black person isn't just "a white person with dark skin". Blacks and whites have different origins and cultures. It doesn't mean one is inferior than the other, but they are different.

Ok tihs I agree with. But the thing is culture can change, it's flexible. We can import lots of blacks and raise them white under our education system and they will be no different. I don't think there is anything INTRINSICALLY different about a black person, but cultures are different for sure.

>"Canadian" rainbow tickets are worth much less than American greenbacks. And minimum wage isn't the same throughout the U.S.

This isn't really true, if you adjust for purchasing power parity, CAD is worth a lot more. In Canada food and rent is much cheaper compared to the U.S. My Canadian friends earn about the same wage as me but their lifestyle is a lot better.

>Main stream media is all propaganda. Their priority isn't to tell the unbiased truth, they're there to make money and to push an agenda to keep people consuming and force a narrative. Whether it's CNN or Fox News, they're both bullshit and controlled opposition. Even if they are telling the truth, they still twist it in a way that they only tell you want they want you to believe and ignore other details that give you a different point of view.

Ok so according to you, you are CENSORING MSN right now by calling it fake... because that's all Biden wants to do with his Ministry of Truth. He wants to call out fake news.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

>ulture is real. A black person isn't just "a white person with dark skin". Blacks and whites have different origins and cultures. It doesn't mean one is inferior than the other, but they are different.

Ok tihs I agree with. But the thing is culture can change, it's flexible. We can import lots of blacks and raise them white under our education system and they will be no different. I don't think there is anything INTRINSICALLY different about a black person, but cultures are different for sure.

Why would you want to make black people act "white"? Why would you want to change their own unique culture to be more Anglo/European instead of retaining their own African-American culture?

What benefit does it have to make everyone else the same in this country when America, being a melting pot and a land of immigrants, is composed of people with many different cultures?

Should Asians, Indians and Hispanics give up their culture to act more "white"?

>"Canadian" rainbow tickets are worth much less than American greenbacks. And minimum wage isn't the same throughout the U.S.

This isn't really true, if you adjust for purchasing power parity, CAD is worth a lot more. In Canada food and rent is much cheaper compared to the U.S. My Canadian friends earn about the same wage as me but their lifestyle is a lot better.

That's true of any place that's not the city. Living in the city in both countries will always be much more expensive than in the countryside.

>Main stream media is all propaganda. Their priority isn't to tell the unbiased truth, they're there to make money and to push an agenda to keep people consuming and force a narrative. Whether it's CNN or Fox News, they're both bullshit and controlled opposition. Even if they are telling the truth, they still twist it in a way that they only tell you want they want you to believe and ignore other details that give you a different point of view.

Ok so according to you, you are CENSORING MSN right now by calling it fake... because that's all Biden wants to do with his Ministry of Truth. He wants to call out fake news.

Well, that is what it is. And it's not like I have the power to declare what's real or what's fake for all people to believe in me.

But the press is clearly a tool that can be used to influence the way people view certain issues.

 

[Deleted member 43188]

Why would you want to make black people act "white"? Why would you want to change their own unique culture to be more Anglo/European instead of retaining their own African-American culture?

What benefit does it have to make everyone else the same in this country when America, being a melting pot and a land of immigrants, is composed of people with many different cultures?

Should Asians, Indians and Hispanics give up their culture to act more "white"?

That's true of any place that's not the city. Living in the city in both countries will always be much more expensive than in the countryside.

Well, that is what it is. And it's not like I have the power to declare what's real or what's fake for all people to believe in me.

But the press is clearly a tool that can be used to influence the way people view certain issues.

>What benefit does it have to make everyone else the same in this country when America, being a melting pot and a land of immigrants, is composed of people with many different cultures?

Lots of reasons

1) We get all the high-talent from around the world, we can bring in doctors, engineers, scientists, from abroad. When we don't discriminate, we don't limit our pool of talent to only those with a certain skin color

2) We can absorb the good cultural aspects of other races. For example, if we bring in people from India, we can let them keep their hollywood culture, let them open indian restaurants, but keep the bad stuff out (such as widow burning) and stuff like that. My point is that people are RAISED to their culture, not born with it. There's no reason to discriminate against an ethnic group because of a trend associated with their culture, we can just filter that out.

3) Keep our population up, whites are not having enough kids. We need to keep up our numbers to grow our economy so we can compete with Russia and China.

>That's true of any place that's not the city. Living in the city in both countries will always be much more expensive than in the countryside.

How is downtown Toronto a countryside?

>Well, that is what it is. And it's not like I have the power to declare what's real or what's fake for all people to believe in me.

Then you should have no problem with Biden creating his ministry to call out fake news.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

>What benefit does it have to make everyone else the same in this country when America, being a melting pot and a land of immigrants, is composed of people with many different cultures?

Lots of reasons

1) We get all the high-talent from around the world, we can bring in doctors, engineers, scientists, from abroad. When we don't discriminate, we don't limit our pool of talent to only those with a certain skin color

2) We can absorb the good cultural aspects of other races. For example, if we bring in people from India, we can let them keep their hollywood culture, let them open indian restaurants, but keep the bad stuff out (such as widow burning) and stuff like that. My point is that people are RAISED to their culture, not born with it. There's no reason to discriminate against an ethnic group because of a trend associated with their culture, we can just filter that out.

3) Keep our population up, whites are not having enough kids. We need to keep up our numbers to grow our economy so we can compete with Russia and China.

But are you saying that everyone should ascribe to one culture, namely an Anglo-European one? Also, what's bad in one culture might be good in another culture and they have different reason why it's so.

Culture is a product of their ancestry's land and contacts with other groups throughout time. Not saying that cultural exchange is bad, but different groups of people have their own culture. And culture being subjective, it doesn't impede one's ability to be a scientist or a doctor or an engineer. They are people in these fields of all kinds of ethnicities.

>That's true of any place that's not the city. Living in the city in both countries will always be much more expensive than in the countryside.

How is downtown Toronto a countryside?

Downtown Toronto is still expensive like any other city in North America.

>Well, that is what it is. And it's not like I have the power to declare what's real or what's fake for all people to believe in me.

Then you should have no problem with Biden creating his ministry to call out fake news.

The difference is that it's the U.S. government dictating what is and is not truth, which goes against freedom of speech and freedom of the press.

 

[Deleted member 43188]

But are you saying that everyone should ascribe to one culture, namely an Anglo-European one? Also, what's bad in one culture might be good in another culture and they have different reason why it's so.

Culture is a product of their ancestry's land and contacts with other groups throughout time. Not saying that cultural exchange is bad, but different groups of people have their own culture. And culture being subjective, it doesn't impede one's ability to be a scientist or a doctor or an engineer. They are people in these fields of all kinds of ethnicities.

Downtown Toronto is still expensive like any other city in North America.

The difference is that it's the U.S. government dictating what is and is not truth, which goes against freedom of speech and freedom of the press.

>But are you saying that everyone should ascribe to one culture, namely an Anglo-European one? Also, what's bad in one culture might be good in another culture and they have different reason why it's so.

They should ascribe to certain ASPECTS of the culture, namely

1) Belief in the rule of law

2) Putting the needs of society over those of immediete family (anti-nepotism)

3) Belief in the innate goodness of man

4) Belief in personal freedom

5) Faith in science

6) Belief in black-slate philosophy

7) Belief in democratic institutions

8) Hard work and sacrifice for future consumption

9) Materialism (The material world is all their is, problems must be solved NOW!)

10) Equality, the idea that humans are, on a soul-full level, equal

They can keep their food, but at least they must embrace these aspects. But i do believe Western culture is superior in creating optimal civilizations, there's just no reason why we can not integrate other civilizations into the Western sphere. Western Civilization is almost an expanding frontier, it can encompass more people in them and make them equal citizens, as if they were anyone else.

>Downtown Toronto is still expensive like any other city in North America.

Yes but not that much more expensive than NY. You said Canadian dollars are worthless? Well, they seem to go quite far for my Canadian friends.

>The difference is that it's the U.S. government dictating what is and is not truth, which goes against freedom of speech and freedom of the press.

So the U.S government can not do what it has done since it's founding? The U.S government has made "statements" since its conception.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

>But are you saying that everyone should ascribe to one culture, namely an Anglo-European one? Also, what's bad in one culture might be good in another culture and they have different reason why it's so.

They should ascribe to certain ASPECTS of the culture, namely

1) Belief in the rule of law

2) Putting the needs of society over those of immediete family (anti-nepotism)

3) Belief in the innate goodness of man

4) Belief in personal freedom

5) Faith in science

6) Belief in black-slate philosophy

7) Belief in democratic institutions

8) Hard work and sacrifice for future consumption

9) Materialism (The material world is all their is, problems must be solved NOW!)

10) Equality, the idea that humans are, on a soul-full level, equal

They can keep their food, but at least they must embrace these aspects. But i do believe Western culture is superior in creating optimal civilizations, there's just no reason why we can not integrate other civilizations into the Western sphere. Western Civilization is almost an expanding frontier, it can encompass more people in them and make them equal citizens, as if they were anyone else.

So you admit that Western civilization is superior and all other cultures should incorporate the above into their cultures.

Not that these ideas are bad, but different cultures still view some of these aspects in a different way (for instance individualism vs collectivism, materialism vs spiritualism, democracy vs royalism, etc.)

And some of these points still have cons or don't always work. For example science alone cannot explain philosophical or moral issues, the belief in a God or a soul, what moral codes should we sick to and why should we stick to them if there were no consequences to breaking them (that God set these morals or are based on "treating others like you treat yourself).

I also don't things human beings are innately good, instead people tend to follow their self-interests as much as possible. Whether you admit to it or not, humans IMO are just animals that desire what any other animal desires like food, sex, money, status, etc. Even if we hurt others because we all want something that that other people have and we compete for a limited supply of them, but morals are there to keep people from engaging in conflict (why is stealing wrong, why is lying and deceiving people wrong, why is being lazy and eating a dozen hamburgers and pizzas everyday wrong, why is having sex with whoever you want is wrong, is it greed to want money?, etc.) Why do people get fat? Why do some foids end up becoming single moms with a dozen bastard kids? Why do people become billionaires and use all their money for their own lavish lifestyles even if they don't need all that money?

Should people have the right to eat whatever they want and get fat if that's their choice, even if there's enough food in the world?

Should people have the right to have sex with whoever they want and as much sex as they want if there are birth control measures in place and they aren't irresponsibly having kids?

Also, democracy only works when you have a large state and there's a high enough cooperation between people, which can only be maintained if everyone's basic needs are able to be met in that society (food, housing, income, etc.) and of course money is one of those ways society is maintained (people don't maintain society out of virtue).

If it was a much smaller society or a tribal one, there will most likely be one leader who has the most status amongst his group.

And even humans being intrinsically equal is a debate especially here on an incel form. You see how Chads are treated differently from non-Chad men. How a man's looks and height affects how he's treated and the opportunities he has. And how foids select their mates and who they want to have sex with based on a man's physical attributes, status and resources.

>Downtown Toronto is still expensive like any other city in North America.

Yes but not that much more expensive than NY. You said Canadian dollars are worthless? Well, they seem to go quite far for my Canadian friends.

1. "Canadian" "dollars" are still worth less than American dollars.
2. Toronto is still more expensive than if you go into a more rural area and since most people in "Canada" live in cities, not to mention the increase of immigrants moving there, the cost of living are gonna go up. And even in the cities it might vary. It's more expensive living near downtown or a trendy hipster neighborhood than in a hood where minorities live.

[UWSL]>The difference is that it's the U.S. government dictating what is and is not truth, which goes against freedom of speech and freedom of the press.[/UWSL]

So the U.S government can not do what it has done since it's founding? The U.S government has made "statements" since its conception.

Yes, but this is about the transmission of information from private sources.

 

[Deleted member 43188]

So you admit that Western civilization is superior and all other cultures should incorporate the above into their cultures.

Not that these ideas are bad, but different cultures still view some of these aspects in a different way (for instance individualism vs collectivism, materialism vs spiritualism, democracy vs royalism, etc.)

And some of these points still have cons or don't always work. For example science alone cannot explain philosophical or moral issues, the belief in a God or a soul, what moral codes should we sick to and why should we stick to them if there were no consequences to breaking them (that God set these morals or are based on "treating others like you treat yourself).

I also don't things human beings are innately good, instead people tend to follow their self-interests as much as possible. Whether you admit to it or not, humans IMO are just animals that desire what any other animal desires like food, sex, money, status, etc. Even if we hurt others because we all want something that that other people have and we compete for a limited supply of them, but morals are there to keep people from engaging in conflict (why is stealing wrong, why is lying and deceiving people wrong, why is being lazy and eating a dozen hamburgers and pizzas everyday wrong, why is having sex with whoever you want is wrong, is it greed to want money?, etc.) Why do people get fat? Why do some foids end up becoming single moms with a dozen bastard kids? Why do people become billionaires and use all their money for their own lavish lifestyles even if they don't need all that money?

Should people have the right to eat whatever they want and get fat if that's their choice, even if there's enough food in the world?

Should people have the right to have sex with whoever they want and as much sex as they want if there are birth control measures in place and they aren't irresponsibly having kids?

Also, democracy only works when you have a large state and there's a high enough cooperation between people, which can only be maintained if everyone's basic needs are able to be met in that society (food, housing, income, etc.) and of course money is one of those ways society is maintained (people don't maintain society out of virtue).

If it was a much smaller society or a tribal one, there will most likely be one leader who has the most status amongst his group.

And even humans being intrinsically equal is a debate especially here on an incel form. You see how Chads are treated differently from non-Chad men. How a man's looks and height affects how he's treated and the opportunities he has. And how foids select their mates and who they want to have sex with based on a man's physical attributes, status and resources.

1. "Canadian" "dollars" are still worth less than American dollars.
2. Toronto is still more expensive than if you go into a more rural area and since most people in "Canada" live in cities, not to mention the increase of immigrants moving there, the cost of living are gonna go up. And even in the cities it might vary. It's more expensive living near downtown or a trendy hipster neighborhood than in a hood where minorities live.

Yes, but this is about the transmission of information from private sources.

>So you admit that Western civilization is superior and all other cultures should incorporate the above into their cultures.

Yes, I do admit that

>Not that these ideas are bad, but different cultures still view some of these aspects in a different way (for instance individualism vs collectivism, materialism vs spiritualism, democracy vs royalism, etc.)

I agree, but I don't think race determines culture

>And some of these points still have cons or don't always work. For example science alone cannot explain philosophical or moral issues, the belief in a God or a soul, what moral codes should we sick to and why should we stick to them if there were no consequences to breaking them (that God set these morals or are based on "treating others like you treat yourself).

Maybe these ideas aren't perfect, but they are the best we have at the moment. If those ideas are what led to our great civilization, than I see no problem with taking in more people who have them.

>I also don't things human beings are innately good, instead people tend to follow their self-interests as much as possible. Whether you admit to it or not, humans IMO are just animals that desire what any other animal desires like food, sex, money, status, etc. Even if we hurt others because we all want something that that other people have and we compete for a limited supply of them, but morals are there to keep people from engaging in conflict (why is stealing wrong, why is lying and deceiving people wrong, why is being lazy and eating a dozen hamburgers and pizzas everyday wrong, why is having sex with whoever you want is wrong, is it greed to want money?, etc.) Why do people get fat? Why do some foids end up becoming single moms with a dozen bastard kids? Why do people become billionaires and use all their money for their own lavish lifestyles even if they don't need all that money?

Very high IQ point. I guess the idea is that a society that views human beings as inherently evil is doomed to fail and fall into distrust, a society that sees the goodness in others can become very high trust. This is what builds tightknit socities.

>Also, democracy only works when you have a large state and there's a high enough cooperation between people, which can only be maintained if everyone's basic needs are able to be met in that society (food, housing, income, etc.) and of course money is one of those ways society is maintained (people don't maintain society out of virtue).

I totally agree, and this is why I'm a Liberal with some socialist tendencies.

>If it was a much smaller society or a tribal one, there will most likely be one leader who has the most status amongst his group.

I'm a globalist for this reason

>And even humans being intrinsically equal is a debate especially here on an incel form. You see how Chads are treated differently from non-Chad men. How a man's looks and height affects how he's treated and the opportunities he has. And how foids select their mates and who they want to have sex with based on a man's physical attributes, status and resources.

When I say humans are all equal, I don't mean we're all physically the same. Some people are stronger than others. Some people are smarter. What I believe is all humans are equally VALUABLE and should be TREATED equally. Egalitarianism doesn't mean we're all the same, it means we should all be treated the same.

>2. Toronto is still more expensive than if you go into a more rural area and since most people in "Canada" live in cities, not to mention the increase of immigrants moving there, the cost of living are gonna go up. And even in the cities it might vary. It's more expensive living near downtown or a trendy hipster neighborhood than in a hood where minorities live.

Ok, but it's still very very affordable, at least given the wages there.

>Yes, but this is about the transmission of information from private sources.

The government is allowed to make an opinion on what they think is true or not, they just can't block the flow of info.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

>So you admit that Western civilization is superior and all other cultures should incorporate the above into their cultures.

Yes, I do admit that

But given that Western civilization is the product of white European Christian philosophy, you admit that white culture is better than all other cultures and all non-white cultures should ascribe to white culture.

>Not that these ideas are bad, but different cultures still view some of these aspects in a different way (for instance individualism vs collectivism, materialism vs spiritualism, democracy vs royalism, etc.)

I agree, but I don't think race determines culture

Culture is a product of race and ethnicity as these people have to adapt to their own unique environment that's different from another environment that another group of people arrived from.

>And some of these points still have cons or don't always work. For example science alone cannot explain philosophical or moral issues, the belief in a God or a soul, what moral codes should we sick to and why should we stick to them if there were no consequences to breaking them (that God set these morals or are based on "treating others like you treat yourself).

Maybe these ideas aren't perfect, but they are the best we have at the moment. If those ideas are what led to our great civilization, than I see no problem with taking in more people who have them.

Yes. But I wouldn't rely on science alone.

>I also don't things human beings are innately good, instead people tend to follow their self-interests as much as possible. Whether you admit to it or not, humans IMO are just animals that desire what any other animal desires like food, sex, money, status, etc. Even if we hurt others because we all want something that that other people have and we compete for a limited supply of them, but morals are there to keep people from engaging in conflict (why is stealing wrong, why is lying and deceiving people wrong, why is being lazy and eating a dozen hamburgers and pizzas everyday wrong, why is having sex with whoever you want is wrong, is it greed to want money?, etc.) Why do people get fat? Why do some foids end up becoming single moms with a dozen bastard kids? Why do people become billionaires and use all their money for their own lavish lifestyles even if they don't need all that money?

Very high IQ point. I guess the idea is that a society that views human beings as inherently evil is doomed to fail and fall into distrust, a society that sees the goodness in others can become very high trust. This is what builds tightknit socities.

Yes, but there will always be people who will take advantage of the system for their own gain. People can only have high trust if they are around people who are like them and with whom they are familiar with. If you mix one group of people with a different group that aren't related and have their own interests, there will be mistrust and conflict. Just like in cities where no one knows each other or cares about each other. Why are certain neighborhoods white, others black, others full of Indians, others full of Asians, etc? It isn't just prejudice, people prefer to being around other people like themselves and don't trust others who are not like them.

Though, I'm generally a misanthropist and a cynic. Partly because I've been shitten on by everyone else. People don't do good just to do good. And why would they?

>Also, democracy only works when you have a large state and there's a high enough cooperation between people, which can only be maintained if everyone's basic needs are able to be met in that society (food, housing, income, etc.) and of course money is one of those ways society is maintained (people don't maintain society out of virtue).

I totally agree, and this is why I'm a Liberal with some socialist tendencies.

But should they work to obtain their needs, or should their basic needs be given out of virtue?

>If it was a much smaller society or a tribal one, there will most likely be one leader who has the most status amongst his group.

I'm a globalist for this reason

Nah, I don't like to live in a large state or society. I'm the type of person that prefers to be isolated from everyone else and just be on my own, without interference with other people.

When you have a large country, each region are going to have their own political inclinations, their own social and economic interests, etc. It would be a bad idea trying impose the same policy on a large group of people that might not agree with that idea. Or taking the wealth of one region and redistributing it with another.

Democracy is just the rule of the majority over the minority. It isn't a good system if it's too big.

A large society requires a lot of cooperation of labor, trade, technology and everything holding society together is bounded by a thin thread that can snap at any moment if there's a shortage of any essential resource (oil, food, labor, etc.)

Think about the fact that if you live in a city you don't grow your own food. You have to buy it from a supermarket or a grocery store which is shipped from hundreds of miles away on trucks. Which run on fossil fuels. The goods that you buy whether from a store or from Amazon a transported with trucks, freight trains, ships, etc. which run on fossil fuels. The electricity that keeps lights on, HVAC systems functioning, hospitals running, keeps the food refrigerated is generated with fossil fuels.

Think about where all the raw materials that go into our electronics come from, often mined in places like Africa that then get shipped to China where workers working in sweatshops assemble them before shipping the final products to the rest of the world.

It will be much better if things were much more localized and everything was consumed where it was produced. Would be much more efficient, less polluting on the environment, and it wouldn't be as fragile if a shortage or a problem with logistics happen.

>And even humans being intrinsically equal is a debate especially here on an incel form. You see how Chads are treated differently from non-Chad men. How a man's looks and height affects how he's treated and the opportunities he has. And how foids select their mates and who they want to have sex with based on a man's physical attributes, status and resources.

When I say humans are all equal, I don't mean we're all physically the same. Some people are stronger than others. Some people are smarter. What I believe is all humans are equally VALUABLE and should be TREATED equally. Egalitarianism doesn't mean we're all the same, it means we should all be treated the same.

So, how would you measure the value of a person? Is it how productive they are and much they can contribute to a society? Do you think every human being should be guaranteed a right to life?

And so, but when it comes to physical appearance and height foids still choose their mates and who gets to have sex. There's a reason why some guys get to have girlfriends and wives and have kids. There's a reason why guys get cucked. And there's a reason why men get no attention from foids at all. And is it their fault? Is it the foids right to tell a man whether he's fit to have kids or not?

>2. Toronto is still more expensive than if you go into a more rural area and since most people in "Canada" live in cities, not to mention the increase of immigrants moving there, the cost of living are gonna go up. And even in the cities it might vary. It's more expensive living near downtown or a trendy hipster neighborhood than in a hood where minorities live.

Ok, but it's still very very affordable, at least given the wages there.

If you make decent money over there, yeah like what you are right now. Doesn't mean that it's affordable for the average wageslave.

>Yes, but this is about the transmission of information from private sources.

The government is allowed to make an opinion on what they think is true or not, they just can't block the flow of info.

But you know people will follow what the government says and the government will obviously have a bias that supports their ruling gang.

 

[Deleted member 43188]

But given that Western civilization is the product of white European Christian philosophy, you admit that white culture is better than all other cultures and all non-white cultures should ascribe to white culture.

Culture is a product of race and ethnicity as these people have to adapt to their own unique environment that's different from another environment that another group of people arrived from.

Yes. But I wouldn't rely on science alone.

Yes, but there will always be people who will take advantage of the system for their own gain. People can only have high trust if they are around people who are like them and with whom they are familiar with. If you mix one group of people with a different group that aren't related and have their own interests, there will be mistrust and conflict. Just like in cities where no one knows each other or cares about each other. Why are certain neighborhoods white, others black, others full of Indians, others full of Asians, etc? It isn't just prejudice, people prefer to being around other people like themselves and don't trust others who are not like them.

Though, I'm generally a misanthropist and a cynic. Partly because I've been shitten on by everyone else. People don't do good just to do good. And why would they?

But should they work to obtain their needs, or should their basic needs be given out of virtue?

Nah, I don't like to live in a large state or society. I'm the type of person that prefers to be isolated from everyone else and just be on my own, without interference with other people.

When you have a large country, each region are going to have their own political inclinations, their own social and economic interests, etc. It would be a bad idea trying impose the same policy on a large group of people that might not agree with that idea. Or taking the wealth of one region and redistributing it with another.

Democracy is just the rule of the majority over the minority. It isn't a good system if it's too big.

A large society requires a lot of cooperation of labor, trade, technology and everything holding society together is bounded by a thin thread that can snap at any moment if there's a shortage of any essential resource (oil, food, labor, etc.)

Think about the fact that if you live in a city you don't grow your own food. You have to buy it from a supermarket or a grocery store which is shipped from hundreds of miles away on trucks. Which run on fossil fuels. The goods that you buy whether from a store or from Amazon a transported with trucks, freight trains, ships, etc. which run on fossil fuels. The electricity that keeps lights on, HVAC systems functioning, hospitals running, keeps the food refrigerated is generated with fossil fuels.

Think about where all the raw materials that go into our electronics come from, often mined in places like Africa that then get shipped to China where workers working in sweatshops assemble them before shipping the final products to the rest of the world.

It will be much better if things were much more localized and everything was consumed where it was produced. Would be much more efficient, less polluting on the environment, and it wouldn't be as fragile if a shortage or a problem with logistics happen.

So, how would you measure the value of a person? Is it how productive they are and much they can contribute to a society? Do you think every human being should be guaranteed a right to life?

And so, but when it comes to physical appearance and height foids still choose their mates and who gets to have sex. There's a reason why some guys get to have girlfriends and wives and have kids. There's a reason why guys get cucked. And there's a reason why men get no attention from foids at all. And is it their fault? Is it the foids right to tell a man whether he's fit to have kids or not?

If you make decent money over there, yeah like what you are right now. Doesn't mean that it's affordable for the average wageslave.

But you know people will follow what the government says and the government will obviously have a bias that supports their ruling gang.

>Yes, but there will always be people who will take advantage of the system for their own gain. People can only have high trust if they are around people who are like them and with whom they are familiar with. If you mix one group of people with a different group that aren't related and have their own interests, there will be mistrust and conflict. Just like in cities where no one knows each other or cares about each other. Why are certain neighborhoods white, others black, others full of Indians, others full of Asians, etc? It isn't just prejudice, people prefer to being around other people like themselves and don't trust others who are not like them.

Except humans do not have to define each other by race. Race is a social construct. What if we define each other by our values, rather than race. That would be much more accurate at predictability than race.

>But should they work to obtain their needs, or should their basic needs be given out of virtue?

Ideally they should work but there's reasons not everyone can do that.... unemployment, recession, disability, etc, these people shoud be taken care of.

>So, how would you measure the value of a person? Is it how productive they are and much they can contribute to a society? Do you think every human being should be guaranteed a right to life?

all humans have infinite value because we all have a soul

>A large society requires a lot of cooperation of labor, trade, technology and everything holding society together is bounded by a thin thread that can snap at any moment if there's a shortage of any essential resource (oil, food, labor, etc.)

That's why i support capitalism and democracy, i think they are the most stable and free and fari systems, certainly better than autocracy

>If you make decent money over there, yeah like what you are right now. Doesn't mean that it's affordable for the average wageslave.

There are no wageslaves there because even the lowest level workers make a lot of money

>But you know people will follow what the government says and the government will obviously have a bias that supports their ruling gang.

Yes, and you're allowed to disagree. I don't even think Milton Friedman would be opposed to this.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

>Yes, but there will always be people who will take advantage of the system for their own gain. People can only have high trust if they are around people who are like them and with whom they are familiar with. If you mix one group of people with a different group that aren't related and have their own interests, there will be mistrust and conflict. Just like in cities where no one knows each other or cares about each other. Why are certain neighborhoods white, others black, others full of Indians, others full of Asians, etc? It isn't just prejudice, people prefer to being around other people like themselves and don't trust others who are not like them.

Except humans do not have to define each other by race. Race is a social construct. What if we define each other by our values, rather than race. That would be much more accurate at predictability than race.

Yes, when it comes to their accomplishments, contributions or ability to do their jobs I think people should be accounted by their merit rather than race. This is also the reason why I'm against affirmative action.

But race and culture is also a part of people's identity.

>But should they work to obtain their needs, or should their basic needs be given out of virtue?

Ideally they should work but there's reasons not everyone can do that.... unemployment, recession, disability, etc, these people shoud be taken care of.

What do you think about things like UBI especially in a time where skilled jobs become more competitive (more supply of workers) on top of robots and AI replacing jobs? Do you think people must work or is work something that can be voluntary?

Do you think sex is an essential need?

>So, how would you measure the value of a person? Is it how productive they are and much they can contribute to a society? Do you think every human being should be guaranteed a right to life?

all humans have infinite value because we all have a soul

So let's say if a person is too disabled to work and is unable to contribute to society. Should society still invest in that person despite being a burden to the taxpayer? Or should that person's care be the responsibility of their families?

Or what if a child is born with a disability or birth defect that profoundly affects his quality of life? Should that child be euthanized even if he's unable to consent?

>A large society requires a lot of cooperation of labor, trade, technology and everything holding society together is bounded by a thin thread that can snap at any moment if there's a shortage of any essential resource (oil, food, labor, etc.)

That's why i support capitalism and democracy, i think they are the most stable and free and fari systems, certainly better than autocracy

It's still a fragile system that depends on many things working together, on top of all the exploitation and environmental damage that goes along with it.

>If you make decent money over there, yeah like what you are right now. Doesn't mean that it's affordable for the average wageslave.

There are no wageslaves there because even the lowest level workers make a lot of money

They make a lot of money like here in New York because the minimum wage is higher, but probably not enough to cope with the rising costs of living and money being even more inflated.

>But you know people will follow what the government says and the government will obviously have a bias that supports their ruling gang.

Yes, and you're allowed to disagree. I don't even think Milton Friedman would be opposed to this.

But still, people will tend to believe what an authority believes or what everyone else believes even if it's really false or heavily biased to follow the narrative of the ruling class, in order to maintain themselves in power and pacify the populace.

 

[Deleted member 43188]

Yes, when it comes to their accomplishments, contributions or ability to do their jobs I think people should be accounted by their merit rather than race. This is also the reason why I'm against affirmative action.

But race and culture is also a part of people's identity.

What do you think about things like UBI especially in a time where skilled jobs become more competitive (more supply of workers) on top of robots and AI replacing jobs? Do you think people must work or is work something that can be voluntary?

Do you think sex is an essential need?

So let's say if a person is too disabled to work and is unable to contribute to society. Should society still invest in that person despite being a burden to the taxpayer? Or should that person's care be the responsibility of their families?

Or what if a child is born with a disability or birth defect that profoundly affects his quality of life? Should that child be euthanized even if he's unable to consent?

It's still a fragile system that depends on many things working together, on top of all the exploitation and environmental damage that goes along with it.

They make a lot of money like here in New York because the minimum wage is higher, but probably not enough to cope with the rising costs of living and money being even more inflated.

But still, people will tend to believe what an authority believes or what everyone else believes even if it's really false or heavily biased to follow the narrative of the ruling class, in order to maintain themselves in power and pacify the populace.

>But race and culture is also a part of people's identity.

Lots of blond people have made great inventions, should i be proud of them if I'm also blond, what about left handed people? There's no reason to create these groups to divide us when we can consider all of human history our history.

>What do you think about things like UBI especially in a time where skilled jobs become more competitive (more supply of workers) on top of robots and AI replacing jobs? Do you think people must work or is work something that can be voluntary?

I fully support UBI, work should be voluntary but i think the issue will take care of itself if too many people stop working.... if too many people stop working, the dollar will be worth less since there will be fewer things to purchase. This will make the demand for labor go up relative to the dollar and people will start working again because it will become more attractive to work relative to UBI

>Do you think sex is an essential need?

I do, and that's why i support enforced monogamy.

>So let's say if a person is too disabled to work and is unable to contribute to society. Should society still invest in that person despite being a burden to the taxpayer? Or should that person's care be the responsibility of their families?

Society should care for them

>Or what if a child is born with a disability or birth defect that profoundly affects his quality of life? Should that child be euthanized even if he's unable to consent?

I am against euthanasia in all cases, even when people consent to it.

>It's still a fragile system that depends on many things working together, on top of all the exploitation and environmental damage that goes along with it.

It's still the best system we have, we can reduce the environmental damage with regulation and carbon taxes

>They make a lot of money like here in New York because the minimum wage is higher, but probably not enough to cope with the rising costs of living and money being even more inflated.

I'm adjusting for that, even after the inflation everything is still cheap

>But still, people will tend to believe what an authority believes or what everyone else believes even if it's really false or heavily biased to follow the narrative of the ruling class, in order to maintain themselves in power and pacify the populace.

Well then if they choose to believe that then im all for it.... and if we had Biden doing it it wouldn't be in the interests of the ruling class. Biden's administration has largely supported the efforts of the poor.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

>But race and culture is also a part of people's identity.

Lots of blond people have made great inventions, should i be proud of them if I'm also blond, what about left handed people? There's no reason to create these groups to divide us when we can consider all of human history our history.

Nothing wrong with being proud of someone in your race accomplishing something, but I don't think race isn't important when it comes to their accomplishments, that was my point.

A black scientist is just a scientist who happens to be black, as long as he can do his job well.

But separate from that culture, just like other things like language, is important to a person's identity to belonging to their group.

>What do you think about things like UBI especially in a time where skilled jobs become more competitive (more supply of workers) on top of robots and AI replacing jobs? Do you think people must work or is work something that can be voluntary?

I fully support UBI, work should be voluntary but i think the issue will take care of itself if too many people stop working.... if too many people stop working, the dollar will be worth less since there will be fewer things to purchase. This will make the demand for labor go up relative to the dollar and people will start working again because it will become more attractive to work relative to UBI

I see. But it would still be a problem if people aren't working essential jobs that society needs, like transporting food or maintaining infrastuctrue, unless there are self-driving cars doing it (but then you also have to make sure that said logistics are powered by renewables, we aren't there yet).

So what if you can't get food grown hundreds of miles away from your big city? Will you start growing your own food locally? Another thing is that traditional farming isn't as sustainable for a very large population compared to factory farms which is also problematic due to the abuse of animals, human exploitation, and pesticides in vegetables, and GMOs that go along with that.

And sure, growing your own food might not be a job that you do to get paid if you're not selling the surplus but you can still be able to feed yourself.

>Do you think sex is an essential need?

I do, and that's why i support enforced monogamy.

What about making prostitution legal? Or even government-sanctioned prostitutes?

>So let's say if a person is too disabled to work and is unable to contribute to society. Should society still invest in that person despite being a burden to the taxpayer? Or should that person's care be the responsibility of their families?

Society should care for them

Yeah. Though one can argue that people like that should be euthanized if there's no hope for them to be productive citizens who can't contribute back to society (the ones who view people in a utilitarian sense), I still think that yeah the family should be able to receive support to take care of a disabled relative.

>Or what if a child is born with a disability or birth defect that profoundly affects his quality of life? Should that child be euthanized even if he's unable to consent?

I am against euthanasia in all cases, even when people consent to it.

I believe voluntary euthanasia should be legal if that's one's personal choice (like if they have a terminal illness, it's much better to give them an option instead of putting them in hospice. If they don't want to be treated that should be their choice as well).

With children it's more complicated.

Do you think people with genetic defects and disabilities (like if they are born without libs, or even if they're autistic or have Down's syndrome) should have children? Or would it be selfish for them to pass on their disabilities to their offspring?

>It's still a fragile system that depends on many things working together, on top of all the exploitation and environmental damage that goes along with it.

It's still the best system we have, we can reduce the environmental damage with regulation and carbon taxes

It still a fragile system that depends on oil, global trade going smoothly, peace with other countries, etc.

This is why it's better to produce locally than rely on exports.

>They make a lot of money like here in New York because the minimum wage is higher, but probably not enough to cope with the rising costs of living and money being even more inflated.

I'm adjusting for that, even after the inflation everything is still cheap

Yeah, but a lot of people only work minimum wage and they don't have the opportunity to get a better job or save enough.

>But still, people will tend to believe what an authority believes or what everyone else believes even if it's really false or heavily biased to follow the narrative of the ruling class, in order to maintain themselves in power and pacify the populace.

Well then if they choose to believe that then im all for it.... and if we had Biden doing it it wouldn't be in the interests of the ruling class. Biden's administration has largely supported the efforts of the poor.

The government doesn't really care about it's citizens. That's the important part.

 

[Escthectrler]

Rittenhouse was based

 

[K9Otaku]

By and large, I understand your reasons for moving to Canada. A more "provincial" atmosphere (in the French sense) is always better for incels as opposed to big city life. But you could as well move to a second or third-tier city in the American heartland. The result would be the same.

However, there are a few points you mentioned below on which you appear to have been hoodwinked by the media:

4) Gun control... I am terrified of guns.

Come on, in New York!? The risk of being stabbed or shot by a thug is a million times higher there than being the victim of a shooter nut-job.

Thankfully New York has more restrictive gun policies but honestly it's not enough.

Typical MSM influence.

Look at Kyle Rittenhouse, a 17 year old who crossed state lines with an AR-15

He did not "cross states lines" One of his parents was living in Kenosha. He was there all the time. This "crossing states lines" thing has been peddled by the media to demonize Rittenhouse although it has no basis in fact.

... and murdered two people yet got off scot-free on every charge.

He shot in self defense. The trial established that. When you are attacked, you have the right to defend yourself. It is both morally correct and legal.

Above all, I think you should not fall for the attempts to paint Rittenhouse as a monster. Look at him. He is most likely an incel. The fact that there are many like him still in America is the very reason Incels are more tolerably treated in small town kinds of places. Rittenhouse is your FRIEND.

5) Mandatory Vaccinations. I have shitty genetics, and shitty genetics tends to come in a package.

Ok, this one is the nuttiest. Covid-19 is halfway between the common cold and the flu in terms of seriousness. If you believe in the "pandemic" narrative, you have been seriously misled. If the media had not talked about Covid, no one would have noticed. There might have been a spike in elderly death but people at that age can die of almost anything. That is the definition of being old. The Covid scare is a religious movement motivated by the loss of Christian faith. By the way, the fact that you fell for it means that you catholic "faith" is probably quite superficial (as I already said in the other thread).

 

[Deleted member 43188]

Rittenhouse was based

Rittenhouse was an evil murderer, who took his AR-15 to a protest provoked people into attacking him. You do NOT get to claim self defense when you provoked the attack.

 

[Deleted member 43188]

By and large, I understand your reasons for moving to Canada. A more "provincial" atmosphere (in the French sense) is always better for incels as opposed to big city life. But you could as well move to a second or third-tier city in the American heartland. The result would be the same.

LOL this is a major misonception. Toronto is actually denser than NY. Canada is actually WAYYY more urban and citylike than America. It's like Tokoyo.

However, there are a few points you mentioned below on which you appear to have been hoodwinked by the media

Come on, in New York!? The risk of being stabbed or shot by a thug is a million times higher there than being the victim of a shooter nut-job.

The difference is you can control for those risks by not going out at night, not going into shady areas. Basically you can protect yourself from those issues. It's mainly only gangs shooting other gangs here. When guns are illegal, they're only sold on the black market, to get your hands on them you need to have at least semi-decent social skills. A mass-shooter type likely won't even have the social skills to find guns, and they'll be kept out of their hands. I'm far more scared of that than I am of a gang with illegal weapons who is only concerned with smuggling more drugs.

Typical MSM influence.

Nope, I'm just thinking about the issue rationally and logically.

He did not "cross states lines" One of his parents was living in Kenosha. He was there all the time. This "crossing states lines" thing has been peddled by the media to demonize Rittenhouse although it has no basis in fact.

I believe it was established that an AR-15 did cross state lines. If im wrong on this I apologize

He shot in self defense. The trial established that. When you are attacked, you have the right to defend yourself. It is both morally correct and legal.

He provoked the attack, you do not get to claim self defense when you provoke the attack, as Binger established. And if he didn't break the law.... then we need to change the law. I think the real reason he got off is because the judge was clearly a biased Conservative and had Rittenhouse's back the whole time.

Above all, I think you should not fall for the attempts to paint Rittenhouse as a monster. Look at him. He is most likely an incel. The fact that there are many like him still in America is the very reason Incels are more tolerably treated in small town kinds of places. Rittenhouse is your FRIEND.

Rittenhouse is not one of us, he's certainly a nerd but he's no incel. He had a girlfriend, and bragged about banging Conservative milfs when he got out. He's the type to shit on incels for being losers now that he's become famous.

Ok, this one is the nuttiest. Covid-19 is halfway between the common cold and the flu in terms of seriousness. If you believe in the "pandemic" narrative, you have been seriously misled. If the media had not talked about Covid, no one would have noticed. There might have been a spike in elderly death but people at that age can die of almost anything. That is the definition of being old. The Covid scare is a religious movement motivated by the loss of Christian faith. By the way, the fact that you fell for it means that you catholic "faith" is probably quite superficial (as I already said in the other thread).

Ask healthcare professionals, ask all the people impacted from long-covid, ask the CCP why they are still locking down and shutting down production over their zero covid policy. Covid-19 is not just the flu, it's a very serious illness, possibly a bio-weapon, and it's designed to cripple a nation. To claim that it's just the flu is seriously misleading, you sound brainwashed by Conservative media.

 

[Deleted member 43188]

Nothing wrong with being proud of someone in your race accomplishing something, but I don't think race isn't important when it comes to their accomplishments, that was my point.

This is where we differ, I see it no different than eye color. I wouldn't segment people by their eye color... or hair color, or whether their earlobes are attacked. I see it the same way.

A black scientist is just a scientist who happens to be black, as long as he can do his job well.

Based, I agree

But separate from that culture, just like other things like language, is important to a person's identity to belonging to their group.

Language is a social construct. People can be taught new languages. If a black person knows English, believes in American values, and wants to move here, let him in.

I see. But it would still be a problem if people aren't working essential jobs that society needs, like transporting food or maintaining infrastuctrue, unless there are self-driving cars doing it (but then you also have to make sure that said logistics are powered by renewables, we aren't there yet).

The market will reflect that, if there's enough demand for a job, it will get done. There's nothing forcing farmers right now to grow food, they do it because the reward for doing so is higher than what they require to work... i.e the market is rewarding them with enough money to make it worth it. The same mechanism would exist in my world. If too many farmers or truckers drop our of the labor force, their wages will rise, encouraging them to join back.

So what if you can't get food grown hundreds of miles away from your big city? Will you start growing your own food locally? Another thing is that traditional farming isn't as sustainable for a very large population compared to factory farms which is also problematic due to the abuse of animals, human exploitation, and pesticides in vegetables, and GMOs that go along with that.

I would like to see more environmental regulation. I agree, that can come too.

And sure, growing your own food might not be a job that you do to get paid if you're not selling the surplus but you can still be able to feed yourself.

If you're a single businessman, i think that's a lot better, I would definitely still encourage single person businesses.

What about making prostitution legal? Or even government-sanctioned prostitutes?

I'd rather hav enforced monogamy than prostitution. In my ideal world prostitution would still be outlawed, we just wouldn't need it since we would have an easier time getting a wife.

Yeah. Though one can argue that people like that should be euthanized if there's no hope for them to be productive citizens who can't contribute back to society (the ones who view people in a utilitarian sense), I still think that yeah the family should be able to receive support to take care of a disabled relative.

I think they have infinite value regardless of their productive capacity. I still want them to live and experience life.

I believe voluntary euthanasia should be legal if that's one's personal choice (like if they have a terminal illness, it's much better to give them an option instead of putting them in hospice. If they don't want to be treated that should be their choice as well).

I disagree. Human life is so rare in the universe, consciousness is spare. We need to preserve it as long as we possibly can.

With children it's more complicated.

Do you think people with genetic defects and disabilities (like if they are born without libs, or even if they're autistic or have Down's syndrome) should have children? Or would it be selfish for them to pass on their disabilities to their offspring?

I support anyone having children as long as they physically can. I think human life is human life, this is the Catholic doctrine too. Life isn't about pleasure, what do you mean suffer? I don't like this argument that "they will suffer so they're better off dead", if that was the case would killing a homeless or ill person be justified because they don't have to live to suffer.

It still a fragile system that depends on oil, global trade going smoothly, peace with other countries, etc.

The free market is very efficient at managing that well

This is why it's better to produce locally than rely on exports.

I disagree, I support Milton Friedmans argument on free trade

Yeah, but a lot of people only work minimum wage and they don't have the opportunity to get a better job or save enough.

The government doesn't really care about it's citizens. That's the important part.

They do care though, they provide us with lots of social services and opportunities.

 

[Feargin]

>Then why do all the spics come over here and you won't find any spics over in "Canada"?

Because it has warmer weather and because it's way closer... obviously. A Mexican will fit in much better in Florida or Texas where there's tons of them rather than Canada that largely takes Chinese and Indian immigrants

>America is the true melting pot, the true land of immigrants. America is the land of gold.

Canada has multiculturalism enshrined in its constitution. It's the most diverse and multicultural country

>Then why does the world use American dollars instead of fake "Canadian" plastic rainbow tickets?''

This is a red herring, this is about geopolitical and military power and has nothing to do with which society is better to live in. American dollars are used because the U.S in the worlds biggest economy, it imposes the petrodollar on foreign states and demands all oil transactions be done in USD.... that doesn't mean the U.S is a better country for its inhabitants... especially considering the economic gains from having the world reserve currency are largely squandered on the military.

>All the jobs are in the U.S., we are still the best country to open businesses.

Because America has a higher degree of wealth inequality, of course you're going to find the "Best" jobs there, unfortunately that comes at the expense of everyone else. I know I'll never be the CEO of Goldman Sachs so I don't care if their CEOs are paid more. I'd rather live a comfortable life than grind away, only to never make it.

>Everyone milks "Canada" for their resources my dude. They're a colony after all.

They're a colony in the same way that Israel is a colony State of Britain. Is Britain exploiting Israel for its resources, or is it the other way around?

>COVID isn't even that serious. Imagine all the people that die from the flu yet people aren't forced against their will to take it in order to work.

I have no problem with vaccine mandates for the flu.

You say you are a financial analyst, yet your arguments on the petrodollar are literally brainlet level. No one is forcing anyone to buy USD. Countries freely negotiate with the US and amongst themselves to use USD in trade deals due to its relative stability up until 2022.

On the topic in general - Think about what it means to have a bigger government hanging over your head, which is also continuously virtue signaling about respecting womyns rights - if it happens that a foid interprets something you do as misogynist or even abusive, you will end up in much deeper shit than in the US.

Further, a government that isn't criticized openly will fade into corruption and incompetence. That's what we saw in the Nova Scotia attacks were a psycho Chad started one-pumping people under the nose of loser Canadian cops and mounty faggots.

 

[Deleted member 43188]

You say you are a financial analyst, yet your arguments on the petrodollar are literally brainlet level. No one is forcing anyone to buy USD. Countries freely negotiate with the US and amongst themselves to use USD in trade deals due to its relative stability up until 2022.

You clearly don't understand anything about geopolitics. I would suggest reading further. If a country stops using the petrodollar, the U.S will sanction and bomb it to oblivion.

On the topic in general - Think about what it means to have a bigger government hanging over your head, which is also continuously virtue signaling about respecting womyns rights - if it happens that a foid interprets something you do as misogynist or even abusive, you will end up in much deeper shit than in the US.

That's one way to look at it, another way to look at it is I have a bigger government serving my needs and making sure I'm doing ok. I won't be left out to dry.

Further, a government that isn't criticized openly will fade into corruption and incompetence. That's what we saw in the Nova Scotia attacks were a psycho Chad started one-pumping people under the nose of loser Canadian cops and mounty faggots.

I actually don't know what really happened here.

 

[Feargin]

You clearly don't understand anything about geopolitics. I would suggest reading further. If a country stops using the petrodollar, the U.S will sanction and bomb it to oblivion.

Give me one example of this

That's one way to look at it, another way to look at it is I have a bigger government serving my needs and making sure I'm doing ok. I won't be left out to dry.

No amount of Canadian welfare will allow you to buy a house there.

I actually don't know what really happened here.

Ok

 

[Deleted member 43188]

Give me one example of this

No amount of Canadian welfare will allow you to buy a house there.

Ok

>Give me one example of this

Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc

>No amount of Canadian welfare will allow you to buy a house there.

Good, you don't need a house.

As cringy as it is when IT talks about "entitlement", this is one example where entitlement is a problem.

You don't need a house, and the fact that every zoomer and millennial wants them is just evident as to how greedy this generation is. They don't want a decent living, they want to be the rich.

 

[Feargin]

>Give me one example of this

Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc

Nationalization does not mean they didn't use the petrodollar. In fact, Iraq held $10 billion in funds in order to buy food on the international market just before the war. It is true tho that saddam wished to convert to using the euro instead.

>No amount of Canadian welfare will allow you to buy a house there.

Good, you don't need a house.

As cringy as it is when IT talks about "entitlement", this is one example where entitlement is a problem.

You don't need a house, and the fact that every zoomer and millennial wants them is just evident as to how greedy this generation is. They don't want a decent living, they want to be the rich.

Yes, I've noticed you agree with IT on a lot of things. I guess if the new economic order tells you to stop consuming and start living in a concrete cubicle you'll do that too, like the soyboy you are.

Modern society makes decent living in a social context impossible. You're complaining about your colleagues in your own post. Now imagine living in a low-income area with low-inhib gangbanging chads playing loud music while the noise of them fucking their latina/nigger stacies pierces your walls.

 

[Deleted member 43188]

Nationalization does not mean they didn't use the petrodollar. In fact, Iraq held $10 billion in funds in order to buy food on the international market just before the war. It is true tho that saddam wished to convert to using the euro instead.



Yes, I've noticed you agree with IT on a lot of things. I guess if the new economic order tells you to stop consuming and start living in a concrete cubicle you'll do that too, like the soyboy you are.

Modern society makes decent living in a social context impossible. You're complaining about your colleagues in your own post. Now imagine living in a low-income area with low-inhib gangbanging chads playing loud music while the noise of them fucking their latina/nigger stacies pierces your walls.

>It is true tho that saddam wished to convert to using the euro instead.

And that's why they invaded him.... just because he had U.S bonds doesn't mean he was moving off it

>Yes, I've noticed you agree with IT on a lot of things. I guess if the new economic order tells you to stop consuming and start living in a concrete cubicle you'll do that too, like the soyboy you are.

I live in an apartment den already. I wish everybody else did too.

>Modern society makes decent living in a social context impossible

I live like a king and i only work like 40 hours a week

>You're complaining about your colleagues in your own post. Now imagine living in a low-income area with low-inhib gangbanging chads playing loud music while the noise of them fucking their latina/nigger stacies pierces your walls.

Fair, i guess that incentives you to get a job so you can move to a better place.

 

[K9Otaku]

LOL this is a major misonception. Toronto is actually denser than NY. Canada is actually WAYYY more urban and citylike than America. It's like Tokoyo.

You missed my point. It is second-tier like because NY and LA have drained all the Chads and Stacies away. You said it yourself. That aspect would also be the there in Milwaukee or Cheyenne.

Nope, I'm just thinking about the issue rationally and logically.

1 Cor 1:19 For it is written: I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the prudence of the prudent I will reject. 20 Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this world? Hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21 For seeing that in the wisdom of God the world, by wisdom, knew not God, it pleased God, by the foolishness of our preaching, to save them that believe. [...] 25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

"logic" and "reason" are often unreasonable. "logic" and "reason" are what Marxism is based on. Remember where it lead? Once again, you are revealing that your christianity is skin-deep.

The main contributor in the correct appreciation of reality is not "logic" and "reason"; It is choosing wisely who to trust. Once again, in Christianity, it is Faith (i.e Trust) that saves you, not "logic" and "reason". As I said, it appears you are trusting the wrong people.

I believe it was established that an AR-15 did cross state lines. If im wrong on this I apologize

Factually it is correct. One of his parents lived in Kenosha in Wisconsin, while his other parent lived just over the border in another state. Because he shuffled between his two parents houses, like most kids of divorced parents, yes most of his stuff must have crossed that particular state line on some occasion. But it is not illegal to do so in any of the two states in question.

Furthermore, this "he crossed state lines" mantra that the MSM repeated was designed to give the impression that he was purposefully in Kenosha to kill people while he had no business being there. That is absolutely not an accurate description of the situation. He was not doing anything illegal by being in Kenosha with an AR-15 that night and it was actually where he lived.

He provoked the attack,

What do you mean by that?

He came with a group of like-minded armed people to protect shops from looters and render first aid medical assistance. Whether or not this constitutes "provocation" depends on what your politics are. According to a large fraction of the American people, this is totally justified. This kind of vigilantism is deeply ingrained in the American tradition (Wild West, Small Town mutual help, etc.) Rittenhouse was then attacked physically by people who did not share his political opinions, none of who were blacks or looters.

If you decide it is indeed "provocation" to show up armed to a situation like this, it just means you are adopting the opposite political stance that Rittenhouse chose to display that day. Therefore, "provocation", in this case, is not a fact. It is a political interpretation of facts. At the trial, it was rightly determined that such political interpretations should be excluded from consideration. The only question put to the jury was "could Rittenhouse legitimately think that his life was in danger" (the key criterion of legitimate defence). Given that one of his attackers had a handgun and at least one other had large rocks with which they threatened to bash his head in, the jury answered in the affirmative, hence exonerating Rittenhouse.

Being in possession of a gun is not legally considered a provocation in itself. Whether or not this should be the case is, once again, a political opinion.

You have to remember that Jefferson famously said that "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Many Americans interpret this as meaning that they have a right to armed rebellion if the government becomes "tyrannical". They also believe that this right is enshrined in the second amendment to the constitution. Given the way that this amendment is phrased, it is hard to deny that this interpretation seems appropriate and historically grounded. This is what Rittenhouse's behavior expressed, and this is why there was so much outrage. America is divided down to the core. There is no denying it. You said it yourself.

By the way, guys like Rittenhouse are even easier to avoid than thugs: just don't go to a riot.

Rittenhouse is not one of us, he's certainly a nerd but he's no incel.

He is an incel in denial and a tradcuck. But he will soon realize his mistake, I am sure.

Like I said, the reason he had a girlfriend is because he lived in a small town where sexual competition is lessened by Stacy/Chad exodus to the coasts. Once again, you said it yourself.

Ask healthcare professionals,

They are all too scared to talk publicly. I asked a number of people I know in that field and they confirmed, privately, that the Covid-19 virus, although more virulent than ordinary common cold coronaviruses from which it derives, is less so than the flu virus.

ask all the people impacted from long-covid,

"Long Covid" is a psychosomatic syndrome created by the hysteria.

ask the CCP why they are still locking down and shutting down production over their zero covid policy.

This fits the paranoia of the CCP and its muscular attempts to keep the Chinese people under control. It has nothing to do with a realistic public health threat.

Covid-19 is not just the flu, it's a very serious illness, possibly a bio-weapon, and it's designed to cripple a nation.

That is a crazy conspiracy theory. If the virus indeed escaped from a lab, is it can hardly be anything but a typical industrial accident caused by corruption and poor safety practices.

To claim that it's just the flu is seriously misleading, you sound brainwashed by Conservative media.

Conservative Media was very slow to react to the Covid crisis. For the first 6 months, they clearly did not know what to think, and Trump did not either.

My sources of information are reputed virologists who reacted much earlier than anybody in the Media: Didier Raoult in France and Jay Bhattacharya in Stanford.

 

[Deleted member 43188]

You missed my point. It is second-tier like because NY and LA have drained all the Chads and Stacies away. You said it yourself. That aspect would also be the there in Milwaukee or Cheyenne.


1 Cor 1:19 For it is written: I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the prudence of the prudent I will reject. 20 Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this world? Hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21 For seeing that in the wisdom of God the world, by wisdom, knew not God, it pleased God, by the foolishness of our preaching, to save them that believe. [...] 25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

"logic" and "reason" are often unreasonable. "logic" and "reason" are what Marxism is based on. Remember where it lead? Once again, you are revealing that your christianity is skin-deep.

The main contributor in the correct appreciation of reality is not "logic" and "reason"; It is choosing wisely who to trust. Once again, in Christianity, it is Faith (i.e Trust) that saves you, not "logic" and "reason". As I said, it appears you are trusting the wrong people.

Factually it is correct. One of his parents lived in Kenosha in Wisconsin, while his other parent lived just over the border in another state. Because he shuffled between his two parents houses, like most kids of divorced parents, yes most of his stuff must have crossed that particular state line on some occasion. But it is not illegal to do so in any of the two states in question.

Furthermore, this "he crossed state lines" mantra that the MSM repeated was designed to give the impression that he was purposefully in Kenosha to kill people while he had no business being there. That is absolutely not an accurate description of the situation. He was not doing anything illegal by being in Kenosha with an AR-15 that night and it was actually where he lived.


What do you mean by that?

He came with a group of like-minded armed people to protect shops from looters and render first aid medical assistance. Whether or not this constitutes "provocation" depends on what your politics are. According to a large fraction of the American people, this is totally justified. This kind of vigilantism is deeply ingrained in the American tradition (Wild West, Small Town mutual help, etc.) Rittenhouse was then attacked physically by people who did not share his political opinions, none of who were blacks or looters.

If you decide it is indeed "provocation" to show up armed to a situation like this, it just means you are adopting the opposite political stance that Rittenhouse chose to display that day. Therefore, "provocation", in this case, is not a fact. It is a political interpretation of facts. At the trial, it was rightly determined that such political interpretations should be excluded from consideration. The only question put to the jury was "could Rittenhouse legitimately think that his life was in danger" (the key criterion of legitimate defence). Given that one of his attackers had a handgun and at least one other had large rocks with which they threatened to bash his head in, the jury answered in the affirmative, hence exonerating Rittenhouse.

Being in possession of a gun is not legally considered a provocation in itself. Whether or not this should be the case is, once again, a political opinion.

You have to remember that Jefferson famously said that "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Many Americans interpret this as meaning that they have a right to armed rebellion if the government becomes "tyrannical". They also believe that this right is enshrined in the second amendment to the constitution. Given the way that this amendment is phrased, it is hard to deny that this interpretation seems appropriate and historically grounded. This is what Rittenhouse's behavior expressed, and this is why there was so much outrage. America is divided down to the core. There is no denying it. You said it yourself.

By the way, guys like Rittenhouse are even easier to avoid than thugs: just don't go to a riot.

He is an incel in denial and a tradcuck. But he will soon realize his mistake, I am sure.

Like I said, the reason he had a girlfriend is because he lived in a small town where sexual competition is lessened by Stacy/Chad exodus to the coasts. Once again, you said it yourself.


They are all too scared to talk publicly. I asked a number of people I know in that field and they confirmed, privately, that the Covid-19 virus, although more virulent than ordinary common cold coronaviruses from which it derives, is less so than the flu virus.


"Long Covid" is a psychosomatic syndrome created by the hysteria.


This fits the paranoia of the CCP and its muscular attempts to keep the Chinese people under control. It has nothing to do with a realistic public health threat.


That is a crazy conspiracy theory. If the virus indeed escaped from a lab, is it can hardly be anything but a typical industrial accident caused by corruption and poor safety practices.


Conservative Media was very slow to react to the Covid crisis. For the first 6 months, they clearly did not know what to think, and Trump did not either.

My sources of information are reputed virologists who reacted much earlier than anybody in the Media: Didier Raoult in France and Jay Bhattacharya in Stanford.

The essence of this post can be summed up into two main components, Rittenhouse, and the virus, I will respond to them on their own.

1) Rittenhouse was a murderer.

He was a white nationalist terrorist who went to a peaceful protest to stir the pot. He fought against civil rights activist who were going out at night to demand equality for black Americans. You say "why not just don't go to a protest", going to a protest to fight for equality, something guaranteed under the constitution... is not only a right but a moral DUTY of all Americans. Rittenhouse firing upon that crowd, even though they were chasing him, was a very un-American thing to do.

When a crowd believes you are an active shooter, they will try to stop you. The people who do risk their lives to run after you should not be condemned as stupid for doing so, they should be hailed as heros. Rosenbaum is a hero for going after who he believed to be an ACTIVE SHOOTER, he wanted to save fellow activists from a right-wing shooter. That is commendable.

If someone has the right to shoot at anyone chasing after them, then we could end up with situations with a massive pile of bodies. Imagine if someone shoots someone, even in self-defense, and then when others come to disarm him he shoots them too, and then others come to disarm them and he shoots them too. The inevitable result is a massive pile of bodies. In my ideal world once a crowd deems you an active shooter you should turn yourself in, it's the only way to ensure some semblance of peace.

2 The Virus is serious business.

I don't take my info from anonymous virologists of whom you claim to know, I listen to Dr Fauci and Birx. I trust the experts who deem Covid-19 a very serious thread to public safety. The lockdowns and masking was needed to prevent the virus from infecting more people and possibility mutating into something super deadly, which it did with the Delta Strain. Professor Lederberg wrote about the problems with pathogens, he wrote that the biggest threat to mankind is the virus. As society becomes more complex, bigger, more urban, and more integrated, the possibility of terrible viruses spring up more. This is why cities were so dirty and were essentially death factories before we invented vaccines and sanitation standards. Without modern medicine humans would be screwed living in massive cities.

When we live in a globally connected integrated and urban world, deadly viruses springing up are inevitable and the only way to deal with these is to accept perpetual lockdowns, masking, and vaccine mandates as part of our daily life. It is no different than requiring fire departments when you live in an area with buildings, or snowplows in an area with high snowfall. When you live in a world like ours, we need responses to pandemics and disease control.

 

[Feargin]

>Modern society makes decent living in a social context impossible

I live like a king and i only work like 40 hours a week

Then why do you give a shit about welfare? Your SMV would actually decrease then by moving to cuckada because now every foid can get free stuff without having to put out for any of it

 

[Deleted member 43188]

Then why do you give a shit about welfare? Your SMV would actually decrease then by moving to cuckada because now every foid can get free stuff without having to put out for any of it

My SMV is already zero, I'm not moving to Canada to get toilets.

 

[K9Otaku]

The essence of this post can be summed up into two main components, Rittenhouse, and the virus, I will respond to them on their own.

1) Rittenhouse was a murderer.

He was a white nationalist terrorist who went to a peaceful protest to stir the pot. He fought against civil rights activist who were going out at night to demand equality for black Americans. You say "why not just don't go to a protest", going to a protest to fight for equality, something guaranteed under the constitution... is not only a right but a moral DUTY of all Americans. Rittenhouse firing upon that crowd, even though they were chasing him, was a very un-American thing to do.

When a crowd believes you are an active shooter, they will try to stop you. The people who do risk their lives to run after you should not be condemned as stupid for doing so, they should be hailed as heros. Rosenbaum is a hero for going after who he believed to be an ACTIVE SHOOTER, he wanted to save fellow activists from a right-wing shooter. That is commendable.

If someone has the right to shoot at anyone chasing after them, then we could end up with situations with a massive pile of bodies. Imagine if someone shoots someone, even in self-defense, and then when others come to disarm him he shoots them too, and then others come to disarm them and he shoots them too. The inevitable result is a massive pile of bodies. In my ideal world once a crowd deems you an active shooter you should turn yourself in, it's the only way to ensure some semblance of peace.

2 The Virus is serious business.

I don't take my info from anonymous virologists of whom you claim to know, I listen to Dr Fauci and Birx. I trust the experts who deem Covid-19 a very serious thread to public safety. The lockdowns and masking was needed to prevent the virus from infecting more people and possibility mutating into something super deadly, which it did with the Delta Strain. Professor Lederberg wrote about the problems with pathogens, he wrote that the biggest threat to mankind is the virus. As society becomes more complex, bigger, more urban, and more integrated, the possibility of terrible viruses spring up more. This is why cities were so dirty and were essentially death factories before we invented vaccines and sanitation standards. Without modern medicine humans would be screwed living in massive cities.

When we live in a globally connected integrated and urban world, deadly viruses springing up are inevitable and the only way to deal with these is to accept perpetual lockdowns, masking, and vaccine mandates as part of our daily life. It is no different than requiring fire departments when you live in an area with buildings, or snowplows in an area with high snowfall. When you live in a world like ours, we need responses to pandemics and disease control.

Instead of answering the assertions I made, you retreat into an ideological tirade.

The upshot is clear:

You don't worship God, you worship Fauci.
You don't worship God, you worship the State.
You don't worship God, you worship "logic and reason".

You are not a Christian. You are just another hypocrite Catholic.

@Billowel, what do you think about this? (please read the whole exchange)

 

[JayGoptri]

Rittenhouse firing upon that crowd, even though they were chasing him,

Don't know how I missed this. This is kek for sure. Rittenhouse may have been young, confused, and sufferring from a form of "Superman hero syndrome" but, in a legal sense his actions were in the right. Furthermore,

was a very un-American thing to do.

Clearly you are unsure as to what makes America different compared to other countries. This was very much the American-thing-to-do !

2 The Virus is serious business.

This is Top Kek !