JFL I have more facial fat at a BMI of ~20 than some of the people on TLC's My600lblife

[masterwizard]

Body fat distribution is mostly genetic, and its possible to lose that lottery like with everything else. I have almost an inch of double chin despite having partial abs visible. I can lean down a bit more, but why do I have the doublechin of a morbidly obese 50 year old? I have to diet like an anorexic now again, just to get rid of it. I have been 9 stone at 5'ft10 and still had noticeable facial fat.

And no, its not fucking bloat. Its fat.

One reason is genetics, but I think another big reason is childhood obesity. I was fat as a child, and as a result I have a higher number of adipocytes than someone who was never fat at any point in their life. You can reduce the size of adipocytes through losing weight, but never reduce the actual number of cells, which is why fat people suffer from a lifetime propensity of weight gain. Their weight is inherently unstable and prone to increase due to higher adipocyte count. The body can more easily grab energy and store it as fat.

You can always see it in people that have lost weight, especially large amounts of weight - they often retain quite high bodyfat% in certain areas especially their face / cheeks / chin. They can look quite lean, but they still have a fat looking face. Go and browse the 'sucess' stories on /r/loseit and see what I mean.

 

[StormlitAqua]

Skinnymax then get facial fat removed via surgery/ liposuction. I suffer from the same thing you do (I have the cheek fat of a 400lb man despite being 180lbs), and I plan on getting it done (In Mexico more than likely to save $$$). I can't guarantee it will work, but I've seen result pics that look great for facialbloatcels.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

My face looks fat even when I'm slightly underweight, it's probably due to being fat as a school aged kid, not sure though

 

[yung incel]

Skinnymax then get facial fat removed via surgery/ liposuction. I suffer from the same thing you do (I have the cheek fat of a 400lb man despite being 180lbs), and I plan on getting it done (In Mexico more than likely to save $$$). I can't guarantee it will work, but I've seen result pics that look great for facialbloatcels.

This, but also know buccal fat naturally reduces greatly with age. Just keep that in mind before going under the knife. You might just have to wait a little.

 

[StormlitAqua]

This, but also know buccal fat naturally reduces greatly with age. Just keep that in mind before going under the knife. You might just have to wait a little.

I'm 23 nibba how much longer do I have to wait?

 

[masterwizard]

I plan on getting it done In Mexico.

You can't pick a country where they wash their hands?

I think lipo is really the only option though. Unless I get to 8% bodyfat but im low energy so I will just lose all my muscle because im too tired to workout because im starving to death.

 

[yung incel]

I'm 23 nibba how much longer do I have to wait?

30s at LEAST. Also if you were a late/slow bloomer you might want to wait longer. I know you're anxious to get better-looking NOW NOW NOW but buccal fat pad removal will likely make you look like shit in older age. Better wait. You should focus on your mental health right now. So by the time you're older and better looking you'll be socially adjusted and whatnot. At least that's my plan.

30s at LEAST. Also if you were a late/slow bloomer you might want to wait longer. I know you're anxious to get better-looking NOW NOW NOW but buccal fat pad removal will likely make you look like shit in older age. Better wait. You should focus on your mental health right now. So by the time you're older and better looking you'll be socially adjusted and whatnot. At least that's my plan.

EDIT: Also I forgot to mention. Many men's voices get EVEN DEEPER with age.
Prime example:

Johnny Depp 20s

Johnny Depp now (55)

So don't rush it, take it easy. You're going to be okay.

 

[StormlitAqua]

You can't pick a country where they wash their hands?

I think lipo is really the only option though. Unless I get to 8% bodyfat but im low energy so I will just lose all my muscle because im too tired to workout because im starving to death.

I'm not a fan of mexico or mexicans tbh but the cost in America is ridiculously more than in Mexico. We'll see.

30s at LEAST. Also if you were a late/slow bloomer you might want to wait longer. I know you're anxious to get better-looking NOW NOW NOW but buccal fat pad removal will likely make you look like shit in older age. Better wait. You should focus on your mental health right now. So by the time you're older and better looking you'll be socially adjusted and whatnot. At least that's my plan.

EDIT: Also I forgot to mention. Many men's voices get EVEN DEEPER with age.
Prime example:

Johnny Depp 20s

Johnny Depp now (55)

23 is already old enough man. I'm so unlikely to get a virgin girl right now (I can't get any girl tbh) and at 30 it will be legit impossible. Why will it look bad when I'm old?

As for my mental health, I have Asperger's Syndrome so I will not be solving that. Additionally, I do not suffer from any mental illness to my knowledge, like things such as clinical depression, OCD, etc.

As for my voice, that life fuel I guess.

 

[yung incel]

I'm not a fan of mexico or mexicans tbh but the cost in America is ridiculously more than in Mexico. We'll see.



23 is already old enough man. I'm so unlikely to get a virgin girl right now (I can't get any girl tbh) and at 30 it will be legit impossible. Why will it look bad when I'm old?

As for my mental health, I have Asperger's Syndrome so I will not be solving that. Additionally, I do not suffer from any mental illness to my knowledge, like things such as clinical depression, OCD, etc.

As for my voice, that life fuel I guess.

Let me give you some more life fuel. I used to be very acoustic. So I decided to work hard and the past 2 years have been a skyrocketing experience for me. You can learn people intellectually and eventually it becomes second nature. You can do it!
Also I would drop the virgin girl thing, it ain't gonna happen (not that I think it matters anyway, I could go in detail about that for hours).

 

[StormlitAqua]

Let me give you some more life fuel. I used to be very acoustic. So I decided to work hard and the past 2 years have been a skyrocketing experience for me. You can learn people intellectually and eventually it becomes second nature. You can do it!
Also I would drop the virgin girl thing, it ain't gonna happen (not that I think it matters anyway, I could go in detail about that for hours).

Yeah man, I've tried being not autistic but it don't fucking work. I find I'm the happiest when I bee myself and just show my autism, trying to hide it just makes it worse.

As for the virgin girl thing, its actually not impossible for me. I am a regular churchgoer to a traditional Lutheran church, and you will see girls past 20 that remain virgins. They're still not incredibly common and often aren't single, but they do exist. At my current juncture, I'd only date a virgin tbh. You cannot trust women from a sexual and relationship standpoint if they are not chaste, they will most certainly be unfaithful.

 

[Damo the incel]

Facial fat also looks worse if you have weak facial features

 

[masterwizard]

Facial fat also looks worse if you have weak facial features

Part of my doublechin problem, I have a weak chin anyway so any chin fat looks twice as bad.

 

[yung incel]

Yeah man, I've tried being not autistic but it don't fucking work. I find I'm the happiest when I bee myself and just show my autism, trying to hide it just makes it worse.

No I don't mean hiding it. I mean actually adopting a normie mind. There's a big difference. I even made a thread about it. I get dumber intellectually as I get smarter socially lol.

As for the virgin girl thing, its actually not impossible for me. I am a regular churchgoer to a traditional Lutheran church, and you will see girls past 20 that remain virgins. They're still not incredibly common and often aren't single, but they do exist. At my current juncture, I'd only date a virgin tbh. You cannot trust women from a sexual and relationship standpoint if they are not chaste, they will most certainly be unfaithful.

I'd say if they're a virgin in 2018 they're lying or crazy, or in very rare cases a unicorn (which you'll never find). And you can't know how committed they'd actually be in a relationship as you have no reference to go by. It's completely possible for a girl to love you and start a family without her being a virgin. Just make sure her past relationships have been taken seriously and she's been mature about it.

 

[StormlitAqua]

I'd say if they're a virgin in 2018 they're lying or crazy, or in very rare cases a unicorn (which you'll never find). And you can't know how committed they'd actually be in a relationship as you have no reference to go by. It's completely possible for a girl to love you and start a family without her being a virgin. Just make sure her past relationships have been taken seriously and she's been mature about it.

Women are generally not loyal as non-virgins due to the fact that their largest oxytocin release is during their virginity loss; it attaches them to their first partner. They cannot be trusted, in my opinion, otherwise. Additionally, I value chastity in women more than pretty much anything else. It is the greatest gift a woman can possess. These women, by the nature of being in the church, value commitment in a relationship and the chastity of a man as well (believe it or not).

If she was "mature about it", she would've remained a virgin until marriage. These women, while uncommon, exist in the church world. I have known 4 women in the church who were all virgins past 21. One of them was my most recent oneitis. None of them liked me though JFL.

 

[yung incel]

Women are generally not loyal as non-virgins due to the fact that their largest oxytocin release is during their virginity loss; it attaches them to their first partner. They cannot be trusted, in my opinion, otherwise. Additionally, I value chastity in women more than pretty much anything else. It is the greatest gift a woman can possess. These women, by the nature of being in the church, value commitment in a relationship and the chastity of a man as well (believe it or not).

If she was "mature about it", she would've remained a virgin until marriage. These women, while uncommon, exist in the church world. I have known 4 women in the church who were all virgins past 21. One of them was my most recent oneitis. None of them liked me though JFL.

Although I respect your opinion, I think it's a little extreme to autistically obsess over that. Got a source on that oxytocin thing btw? I've heard it parroted but never seen it myself. I'd also add that life's too short to be scared of things going wrong, take risks ffs. It's not gonna kill you to have a bad relationship. But I respect your opinion nonetheless.

 

[LebaneseCel]

Want a blackpill?

Maybe that “double chin” that you’re talking about is actually a receding chin!

 

[StormlitAqua]

Although I respect your opinion, I think it's a little extreme to autistically obsess over that. Got a source on that oxytocin thing btw? I've heard it parroted but never seen it myself. I'd also add that life's too short to be scared of things going wrong, take risks ffs. It's not gonna kill you to have a bad relationship. But I respect your opinion nonetheless.

Googled around and couldn't find a source (I'm at work), but to my understanding, it works the same as dopamine. If you get too many consistent dopamine rises, your receptors burn out and require a higher level of stimulation to be satisfied. Like many men burn out their dopamine receptors though excessive porn use (probably 90% of this forum tbh). I've been told it works the same with oxytocin.

I'm afraid of a bad relationship in a certain sense, but at the same time, no woman had ever given me a chance to have a relationship at all. No woman has ever been attracted to me. Aslo, I've asked out maybe 4 girls for sure and been soft rejected many times. I've taken risks and it's gotten me nothing but shame and disgust.

 

[PM_ME_STRIPPERS]

its over dude just LDAR