Omega Cope. Hitler wouldn't even send you to the gas chamber, he'd blend you alive.
Veganism is a sign of Nobility, that which you lack by being a divisive cuck.
And do you have any points for your argument?
Veganism is a sign of Nobility, that which you lack by being a divisive cuck.
You're vegan? You should like the Nazis then, it's the main thing that made me realize they were the good guys.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_welfare_in_Nazi_Germany
Yea I'm vegan
Brah I am an NS Aryanist and unlike you a real NS and not a Jewish Backlash tool...
He is a sand nigger muslim.
That doesn't make any sense. Why would you support race mixing if you're a National Socialist? At least you're vegan, that's good. Everyone should be.
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All men have it worse than their female equivalent.
This comes across more as wistful fantasy than as a plan to operate within the constraints imposed by the world as it is. It is no use daydreaming about the world as it should be and never will be.
The main issue is how exactly you imagine yourself coming to a position in which you're even able to cull the summed herd of humanity. People infinitely more powerful than you aren't able to do that.
Let's go further though and say that each and every one of the numerous and unlikely conditions necessary for your ascendancy is fulfilled. How exactly do you intend to pursue the rational engineering of humankind? "Well, I'm going to take the strongest, smartest, and most dogged members of each race and mix them together and I am going to get superhumans because all traits are perfectly heritable, independent, and additive and I am going to give them an identity myself and it will all be perfect because I won't allow tribalism to divide us and, truly, we have reached the end of history!"
Come on. Nothing is a perfectly manipulable closed system.
Race-to-culture is universal - it is not only "imperfect" cultures that exhibit this. It is not a conscious decision, it is an inexorable dialectical sublimation. You're a proud Indian and that's good, but why has Indian culture developed in the way it has? Why does it possess the features it does? For what reason has Indian culture become distinct from others? "Just because. Some guys were on this patch of land and some others were over on this one and they all just happen to have completely different ways of living and seeing the world". Every culture develops contingently. The genetic variation of the human species and its multiplicity of distinct cultures are unavoidably related.
Strange you mention Jews, who are infamously rootless - the itinerant tribe. The parasitic cliquishness they're said to exhibit, in fact, is more than likely a mechanism to assuage the nihilism and relatively weak sense of tradition that has inevitably come from restless peregrination. Now in the cosmopolitan, multicultural societies they have had no small part in creating, everyone else comes closer and closer to this state themselves.
Again, "there happened to be some people here and some people there who were identical to each other and then foids made them cucks (? - how?) and then they started attacking each other." Come on.
By implication, you consider yourself the best of the best then? How are you so sure you'll make the cut when it comes time to implement utopian eugenic policies? Maybe the IQ threshold gets set a point above you. Maybe only men over 6' get to make it. Too bad.
Really, societies survive on the mutual obligation of a ruling/intellectual class and a swarming mass of subjects. The former tends to not be especially fecund or robust, making them better as managers of the citizenry from which new generations arise. Many, many examples throughout history and the present of great leaders and thinkers making poor sires.
Even as fantasy, this is all a bit unclear. Ideally, in a world without cuckoldry, no one would be incel in the first place and there would be no "Incelistan" as such.
You mean implementation of English as a global lingua franca? The issue runs much deeper than that.
You've got me wrong if you think that I'm defending the "honor" of the White womyn. Under current conditions, in fact, miscegenators should proceed apace so as to allow for easy and voluntaristic elimination of stupid, impulsive whores from our genetic stock. Let them have their hedonistic fun and make tragic mulattos - I just want to have somewhere as to be able to get away from it.
See, this misses the crux of the issue entirely. Shared heritage, diluted in varying degrees from family to community to ethnicity to race to Homo sapiens, is a primeval part of human fulfillment in groups. Denied it, people scramble to replace it (or more aptly, end up having it replaced by exploitative agents) with superficial and mutable identities - like hair color and favorite cartoon. Issue is twofold in that it doesn't work and that this allows for the expedient and transient definition of values by demagogues.
The will toward commonality is not so easily subdued. It is better to acknowledge it and finds ways to deal with it. Even if you think you are above it, most are not and never will be whether or not they admit it.
"There's never been a totally free market in advanced societies."
"True Communism has never been tried."
Schemes for social and economic engineering do not translate from the pages of a book to perfect implementation. The endlessly ramifying network of existence is not reducible to neat theories.
Systematic control of life has never produced the exact outcome it was supposed to.
Is that everyone who posts threads like "[SuicideFuel] It's always been over for ethnics - my sister spat a White man's cum in my eyes today" then?
I agree that this is counterproductive and is an impulse that needs to be reigned in, but I do think that the frustration comes from a valid place ultimately.
The human male has the mental faculties necessary to keep sluts in their place. Racial autonomy does not have to devolve back to intertribal sniping when reproductive resources are secure. The other issue is territory, which as I've said is a question of scale. The current trajectory we've followed was probably unavoidable due to unchecked population growth. It is a natural process that civilizations distend and die over time. Again, I am hoping for and expecting collapse, not reaction.
What nation?
And don't cast aspersions without reason, especially with a bugman buzzword like "racism". You'll have to take my word for it, but I appreciate many works produced by many different traditional cultures. All the more reason to respect their right to exist as they are, not as some imperial vision of a global rap hamburger.
There are no constructive solutions - it is not an issue of motivation, it is an issue of tractability. Propaganda is the answer. Get people mad, watch them defect or raze the world to the ground.
But yeah, all of this is not relevant to the world we live in. Latch hands together and pull everything down.
What is degeneracy but the transgression of communal or religious mores? Without a common religion and without community, on what ground can you stand to condemn degeneracy? When you let normies play games of "choose your own values", they inevitably end up choosing nothing.
Not addressed to me, but Hitler would have loved my phenotype so much as to personally furnish me with a foid of my choosing.
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Ironically the olny half white half Asian I know is a legit 8/10, high cheek bones good jaw, blue eyes and hes 6'0-6'2 and has very pale skin, Race mixing isnt inherently bad and yes I realize this is anecdotle but it's an example of how whenl t comes to breeding, IQ and and physical health should be put over ethnicity.
Don't worry man, this is what is waiting for them --
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You say that, but as a curry, I'd fuck and impregnate any foid inside my race or outside my race that was interested in me for me.
Hapas deserve compensation.Don't worry man, this is what is waiting for them --
I went to a Korean/Japanese restaurant and watched as the staff kept going over to one table and touching this little kid's hair and taking pictures of him. I went to check it out and the kid looked like a blonde hair blue eye Asian. The dad looked Asian or part asian and the mom was white.
I’d argue black men have it better from a sexual perspective. They’re shit on in all other aspects however
Good point actually, although I actually think most couples do end up IQmatched, it’s very hard to get on with someone consistently who is too far beyond or below one’s IQ range without one party getting bored or confused.
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Asian/White kids will never have blue eyes and blonde hair if Asian is pure.
Brown eyes ALWAYS win out.
Second generation is very different, you can look basically white after just one generation mixed.
That is why I said the dad looked asian/part asian. Some Asian/White people just look Asian, know what I mean.
this tbh
fakecel otherwise
Kek, yup.
Or euthanasia
I hate seeing hot white women with incel tier ethnics a full foot shorter than me. Wtf is the secret formula to be on the receiving end of virtue signalling, cause obviously some ethnics are hated.
Everything women do is designed to frustrate the mind and crush your spirit. If only chads got girls then it would not be as much of a mind/self esteem fuck, and there would be no plausible deniability.
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Why? They're always dating massively below their looksmatch.
It's called niggamaxxing. Brown ethnics can play the exotic thug nigga game, where they act all street n shieet.
You can call it wishful thinking all you want. A duty is a duty, no matter how difficult it seems. You're here on Incels.me because you know that no matter how hard the struggle is, it's the moral thing to do. Cuckoldry, as easy as it is, is simply not an option. There's more to life than hubris and fear.
All bullshit. The only race-to-culture there is are some ethnostate cucks who think that by fighting their fellow incels that foids will all of a sudden fall head-over-heels for them.
Certainly not because we locked India up to the brown folk and skinned anyone who didn't look like us, contrary to that, the religions of India and it's cultures welcomed everyone and practiced Advaita Vedanta towards all, even if others remained evil. That's why Indian culture is so beautiful, not because we're allegedly immoral just like everyone else "should" be, but because we at all times remained upright and moral.
Not quite, even India is full of cultures so different from one another, yet at the end of the day, we respect that and remain a united nation instead of dividing ourselves into the millions of fragments that it would otherwise be.
They're super endogamic and super tribalistic. The fact that they haven't grown up in one land means nothing. If anything, such an ethnostate, as modern history shows, only allows for a greater base to declare war in.
It's easy to take something good and make it terrible. Robespierre's involvement in the French Revolution should be an example. They have taken multiculturalism and used it as a breeding ground for the alt-right, black panthers, etc. so we can become divided again, this time with new renowned vigour. Jews control both sides, after all, so it should be no surprise what they are trying to do.
Don't try to misquote me. My words are simple. Women have always used tribalism, not just on the ethnic basis but on all fronts to get betacucks to work for their every bidding and get the profit. Your "pure white race" is an example of that. Nothing more than a way to reap the rewards of sending innocent betacucks to fight other betacucks of a different tribe for profit.
Where did you get that from? I'd like to know, since I find it hilarious you would ever ask a 5'7" midget that.
The likelihood of a good sire coming from a great ruler yet remain better than a good ruler coming from the low-quality masses. As for your masses-ruler analogy, that's kind of why Hitler's NS government would work best, getting rid of those ignobles ASAP is a noble goal indeed.
It is not fantasy but our task, no matter what. Sadly, the world isn't a paradise but a hell, hence Incelistan has to exist for us to achieve our goal of transcending the world.
No I literally just wanted you to elaborate on your point kek
Perhaps you do not yet know of the Jewish tactics women use. This is just their phase for you and other betacucks to fight other betacucks of a different ethnicity for their material and possibly genetic profit. You have not yet escaped the pendulum of the Jew, forgive me for ever imagining that you would have escaped the pendulum of the female.
You missed my point. thankfully you see why dividing on hair color and favorite cartoon would be a total disaster, I'm arguing taht it would be equally stupid to divide on race. As for replacing identities, I'd gladly do it by drilling into them their full patriotism into Incelistan. I don't deny nature and the tribalistic nature, but I do not accept it as good.
The difference here is that both of us admit that meritocracy has not been used in the current era, and that ethnostates have existed long throughout history, all of them always going to war and commingling acts of evil. I don't know why it is YOU, and not Blackpill101, per se, that is making that point.
Yet a duty remains a duty. Even a war cannot be won, it's your job to fight in it.
Observing how women divide is fine. Adhering to their divisions as a method for running society is madness.
Yet it's inevitable to do so. Every example in history and biology has proven it so. We may have evolved to greater metal understanding of concepts like mathematics, science, etc. but we're socially speaking our old, same, tribal selves. The difference now is that our new technology just makes wars more devastating, yet tribalist countries, even in the modern day don't care about expendables or their foe so long as their ethnicity remains alive.
Why even bother going through total collapse? Don't you have the obligation to your country to make sure that it lives? You don't have to burn all of it down to rebuild...
Any non-ethnostate you can think of. Perhaps it's the US, perhaps it's Incelistan. The list goes on.
And I seek to improve them. They're always room for improvement. Don't leave it here, let's continue. Look to the future, not the past. The past is a female obsession, after all.
Maybe it's hit you that I don't think the answer to solving our problems is to create more of them and then try to solve all of them at once. I'm not interested in burning down the world and staring 100% anew, I'm interested in fixing the problems it has.
Incelistan is the way to fix the world. I don't see why you're so obsessed with burning it all down.
Man, I don't even know how many brain cells I lost by reading that. By your logic, even "degenerate" cultural practices are fine because it's a cultural thing. Anti-degeneracy is pro-logic, we have fine grounds on why what is degenerate and what is not.
How would I have known that a rightist (you) would point to the false left (non-cels) as a strawman? My grounds for daming degeneracy is a true and fine logic of anti-degeneracy. Neither God nor India need tell me why hypergamy, racism, cuckoldry, etc. is wrong.
As for the normies choosing their values bit, this part from http://aryanism.net/philosophy/arya/conservatism-liberalism-radicalism/ sums it up perfectly. Don't trust the false left for shit.
Seeing your tribalism, Hitler himself would have executed you. If the holocaust would've ever actually happened (which would've been a great thing, really), he would toss you in right with the jews.
What's a duty? Trying, by rational selective breeding, to create rootless superhumans and graft new roots onto them? I could call it my duty to pull the sky down on whores, but despite it being a laudable task, it is not something that is possible to achieve.
My point isn't that "perfect cultures develop in isolation". It is that there exist no causal determinants outside of genotype and environment. If we are to describe the genesis of Indian culture(s), it is necessary to locate an origin. From where did it come in the first place? Why is it what it is and not something else, and how have spatial, environmental, and genetic factors shaped its assumption of a unique form?
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/11/12/what-happens-when-jews-intermarry/
Among the married Jewish women surveyed, 47% say they have a non-Jewish spouse. Among the married Jewish men, 41% say they have a non-Jewish spouse.
Maybe Orthodox Jews, but when people talk about Jews in banking, media, etc., you think they mean this guy?
Or this guy?
"Divided again".
The Black Panthers have existed since Brown v Board of Education.
My point is not "SAVE THE WHITE RACE", it is "people self-sort and feel a loyalty that strengthens in parallel with phenotypic (a proxy for genetic) proximity. If you think you can get around it (and certainly, some could), most cannot"
So if you're going to be engineering humanity, will you attempt to keep yourself simply a cold and dispassionate manipulator? Eliminating weakness and ugliness from the world, a noble task in the tradition of eugenicist cripple Joseph Goebbels, incidentally a man who couldn't keep himself from siring six children:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goebbels_children
Hitler's an interesting case study against your point. The son of a petty civil servant who I remember saying something like (I'm paraphrasing) "I do not regard it the task of a distinguished man to produce children. Just look at Goethe's son! A totally worthless man!"
It was in Alan Bullock's Hitler and Stalin: Parallel Lives, but I don't have it with me.
Indeed, which is why I don't see it as being amenable to (another in a long, abortive series of) utopian schemes.
How do we pilfer from among the mixed heap of values what is "purposeful" and who do we trust to do it?
Do you envision your ideal society being a "supraculture" or a "superculture"? The former would be a pluralistic attempt to corral disparate cultures and expect them to function harmoniously - not likely. I don't really know anything about the state of India, so you're of course welcome to share any insight here, but my understanding is that it is not a model of stability - which, I would hypothesize, is at least to some degree related to forcing together cultures under a totalizing "nation".
The latter is largely what I have spent my time arguing against and what I thought you were arguing for. The development of a new man and with him a de novo culture. I would contend that jarring "integration" schemes do not work and that this is seized upon by those who wish to confuse and erode native populations. By the quote above, I was referring to how you seemed to want to shave off "antiquated" elements of traditions and cobble the "good parts" together to make some kind of chimera. What are the "good parts"? Who decides? Is it a reasonable substitute for the work done by many and distinguished forbearers?
JFL. Their "phrase". Do women desire to "trick" us and themselves into a world where they're kept on a tight leash and ostracized swiftly for transgressions? If so, let them. Maybe I didn't give them enough credit.
People right now have the same idea about "American/Western/democratic" values and can't seem to get it to work. There's something to kinship, diluted however much, that binds people more tightly than abstract values conjured from the pages of a book or the mind of an idler.
I don't accept it as good either - things would be better, certainly easier, if these things could be different. The nature of allegiance does change - in scale - but according to gradual temporal progression. Without harsh coercion, it's not an immediate "one-shot" deal.
Meritocracy might well be beneficial, but is it actually practicable? Seems like the ideal way to structure your society - wonder why no one's been able to do it?
Do you contend that a fairly universal flaw of human nature is due entirely to female manipulation? Intertribal warfare was more common when foids were violently kept in line.
Any coincidence that the world's preeminent war machine is also a 56% "melting pot"? Hardly a tribalist country, but rather one that can't seem to keep itself extricated from the rest of the world. In fact, your point in this paragraph should serve to remind that "rationality, the forces of progress, etc., etc., etc." are nothing in the face of tribal essentialism. The issue is to deal with it, not to pretend that it doesn't exist.
The collapse might not even begin within my lifetime. Regardless, this is the inevitable course that civilizations take. I'm only 150 pages into Spengler's Decline of the West, otherwise I could offer more description here.
Hardly creating more problems when a lot of what exists would better not.
Again, it will happen regardless.
There is a logic to a lot of it (gays are often promiscuous GRIDS vectors, female emancipation destabilizes relationships, etc.), but how do you intend to justify it to anyone else? They won't understand. The "education" of the masses just produces dumb credulity and the worship of "fact", however fungible, desultory, and incomplete it might be. This is the sort of scientism we have now - "rationality" as a secular religion, where Redditors rattle off "studies" to you that they haven't read themselves, where consensus is swallowed whole and washed down with tomes of bureaucratic justification and cross-referencing (peer-review, citations, the bloated corpus of record, a substrate for endless proliferation of conclusions and backup) that has no function but as a palliative.
People need tradition and order. Not "knowledge".
Very doubtful. I am not even politically engaged.
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Can you please stop bumping this I don't want to be this angry this late at night.
Imagine my despair. I literally pass by hundred of white men who i easily skull mog to oblivion with nice ethnic girlfriends in a DAILY basis. Fucking mouthbreathers, it makes my blood boil.
I had to respond to an earnest interlocutor, but the whole discussion is indeed tangential enough to be better suited to another thread/PMs.
@ProudIncelistani, you're welcome to do either if you choose.
LA is pure suicide fuel for this alone. JBW 4/10s are actively chosen over 6-7/10 asian dudes on the reg.
But yeah, Crazy Rich Asians am I right???
But yeah, Crazy Rich Asians am I right???
I’ll go with you cap'n, we can find our waifus together
I’ll go with you cap'n, we can find our waifus together
Setting sail for the grand line! (Japan)
Why the hell would it be hypocritical ? A lot of happas hate their mother white worshiping.
Due to how shitty my life and parental situation is, I identify as a hapa.
I hate that sight too but it's a constant reminder that those white men probably cant't succeed with their own women so they have to date asian women.
LA is pure suicide fuel for this alone. JBW 4/10s are actively chosen over 6-7/10 asian dudes on the reg.
But yeah, Crazy Rich Asians am I right???
are there even white people in LA?
Lol it's all true. You just know the white guy would be incel if it wasn't for a noddlewhore. It's like seeing a rich guy with a hot girl, the only difference is that the incel white guy was born lucky.
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