SuicideFuel I don't understand oldcels who "ascend"

[VictoryOrDeath]

That's the most inspiring thing I read on this forum in months, maybe ever.

Thanks bro. By the way, as I read you are 36, please let me tell you that the 35 upper boundary in my post is arbitrary. In fact, all years from 22 to retirement consist in winning your career and perpetuating well your genes. So it's not over for you at 36 with respect to that battle

 

[Deleted member 60]

From 22 to 35, the goals change : it is about starting well your career and reproducing in order to both honor and perpuate your genes, transmitted generation after generation for thousands of years.
(Edit : even after 36, it's still about career and passing your genes).

I can't imagine why anyone would want that. You're getting all the burdens of a relationship and none of the benefits.

 

[JackBurton]

Most of your peers already experienced this a decade ago. They'll always see you as inferior and treat you like a retarded child who just learned to tie your shoes. You'll never be respected or loved.

It depends! Normies and highly regarded members of our fucked up society (Chads, Stacies, millionaires, celebrities, etc) don't think like that.

Your whole argument is based on the presumption of someone who couldn't really ascend.

If you can REALLY ascend (looks wise, +7 and with some sort of social status like career, money) and you still look young in your 30s and 40s, maybe even in your early 50s, no one will give a shit about your past (teen years), because most people also hate their teen years; It's all a matter of, do they see you as a more powerful society member than they are?

People crave for that adulthood power and status and will do whatever they can to stay near you if they see you as a strong member of our society.

I saw that happening with a chadlite school mate of mine. He was a fat ass kid with braces and a lot of acne, probably uglier than I was back then, we were good friends because our ugliness made us equals at that moment of our lives, we just understood each other (our misery), so we were constantly playing videogames, exchanging sci-fi books and all the geek/nerd stuff, coping together, other kids were consistently making fun of our hideous looks, behavior and virginity.

While on college he somehow had the willpower to lose a ton of weight (+100 lbs) and looksmaxed (gym, roids, skin laser, tattoos... I even think that he did lipo and abdominoplasty, because his abs looked insane and he was a morbid obese years prior to that) and he received a ton of validation from bitches on college, that transformation took 3 years, he used that as a fuel and statusmaxed at his senior year, guess what? Women were throwing themselves at him, even some rich bitches. He was slaying and smartly decided to stay on university for more and more useless degrees, well, he got married to one of the most beautiful girl of his campus, he was early 30s and now he is doing his doctor's degrees and she is paying for that...

I am not saying this is the norm an we can all replicate that, au contraire, but If you can really ascend (physically and make a good money), you then can choose a happier life path later on, but yeah, most of us can't, because only a few here have problems that can be fixed through diet, surgery, procedures...

 

[Deleted member 60]

It depends! Normies and highly regarded members of our fucked up society (Chads, Stacies, millionaires, celebrities, etc) don't think like that.

Your whole argument is based on the presumption of someone who couldn't really ascend.

If you can REALLY ascend (looks wise, +7 and with some sort of social status like career, money) and you still look young in your 30s and 40s, maybe even in your early 50s, no one will give a shit about your past (teen years), because most people also hate their teen years; It's all a matter of, do they see you as a more powerful society member than they are?

People crave for that adulthood power and status and will do whatever they can to stay near you if they see you as a strong member of our society.

I saw that happening with a chadlite school mate of mine. He was a fat ass kid with braces and a lot of acne, probably uglier than I was back then, we were good friends because our ugliness made us equals at that moment of our lives, we just understood each other (our misery), so we were constantly playing videogames, exchanging sci-fi books and all the geek/nerd stuff, coping together, other kids were consistently making fun of our hideous looks, behavior and virginity.

While on college he somehow had the willpower to lose a ton of weight (+100 lbs) and looksmaxed (gym, roids, skin laser, tattoos... I even think that he did lipo and abdominoplasty, because his abs looked insane and he was a morbid obese years prior to that) and he received a ton of validation from bitches on college, that transformation took 3 years, he used that as a fuel and statusmaxed at his senior year, guess what? Women were throwing themselves at him, even some rich bitches. He was slaying and smartly decided to stay on university for more and more useless degrees, well, he got married to one of the most beautiful girl of his campus, he was early 30s and now he is doing his doctor's degrees and she is paying for that...

I am not saying this is the norm an we can all replicate that, au contraire, but If you can really ascend (physically and make a good money), you then can choose a happier life path later on, but yeah, most of us can't, because only a few here have problems that can be fixed through diet, surgery, procedures...

True, the competition never really ends. But you're kind of forced to settle down and I just don't see the appeal in that when you've been robbed of your youth.

 

[CIA nigger]

i want 2 die

I know it sounds stupid, but part of me wants to die a virgin

 

[JackBurton]

True, the competition never really ends. But you're kind of forced to settle down and I just don't see the appeal in that when you've been robbed of your youth.

I don't see it either...

I really don't think i can love a woman or have any meaningful female validation at this point...after all that they've put me through, after all the validation they've given to other men and let me rot, after all I had to discover by myself (actually I owe you guys) while they've tried to confuse and gaslighted me about personality and other sh*t they don't give a cr*p because they only seek looks...

...and I don't know how ex-incels can feel better after ascending! They've experienced firsthand women nature, deep down they know it's all about looks and status and how hypocritical women are.

 

[RopeMaXXer]

Nothing will ever repair your lonely outcast teenage years.

They're called formative years for a reason

 

[nice_try]

I agree with what has been said, but it's an accomplishment nontheless.

 

[Deleted member 677]

Happy holidays!

 

[Insomniac]

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tbh.

It’s Merry Christmas you soylent chugging cucks.

 

[Deleted member 60]

tbh.

It’s Merry Christmas you soylent chugging cucks.

well excuse me for thinking of Jews like @Master

 

[Darth Cialis]

One thing that's curious is that Chad will almost never marry a virgin foid. Celebrity Chads usually marry experienced degenerate roasties even though they could get someone younger and even though they don't even have to get married. Maybe they know something we don't?

Not so curious, they just don't have that value having been deepy immersed in degeneracy since their early teens.

 

[Salustio]

Many great men in history never had sex, and were real men. On the list is Kant, Tesla, Lewis Carroll, Newton and many other men chose to devote their energies away from sex now we might not choose but we can direct our energies to good things many of you could benefit from going to the public library and get educated. I spent my youth through now honing my mind by reading books on many topics. You know books they are paper bound in covers and you read words in them and then learn things. There do that.

I never understood the Tesla cope for MCTOWs, it’s pointless.

Tesla was highIQ, he was a special person, he was extremely highly educated, and a genius. On the other hand MSTOW’s Tesla cope is only focused on his sexless life, they only look at him noticing that he wasn’t married, and despite that fact he was still amazing and a great man. If MCTOWs are true Tesla-fans they should study his science, because it’s stupid to admire a great genius only for things related to his private life.

Most of us incels are total genetical garbage, both lowIQ and physically unfit, so it’s pointless to cope like MCTOWs are doing, it’s too stupid, it’s humiliating.

MCTOWs are bad copers and liars, they are sexless and divorce-raped, in other words they are incels in denial, all of them.

It’s useless to lie about your current situation, if you’re an incel you can’t pretend to be some sort of MGTOW alpha male if foids have SENT you your own way.

And, another thing: today’s lookists standards are much higher than before, social media and dating apps have ruined the sexual market. So, if youngcels feels miserable despite the fact they are in good health condition with a normie look is nothing to be surprised of.

 

[FinnCel]

Nothing will ever repair your lonely outcast teenage years.

It will haunt you for the rest of your life

 

[EthnicelNL]

I never understood the Tesla cope for MCTOWs, it’s pointless.

Tesla was highIQ, he was a special person, he was extremely highly educated, and a genius. On the other hand MSTOW’s Tesla cope is only focused on his sexless life, they only look at him noticing that he wasn’t married, and despite that fact he was still amazing and a great man. If MCTOWs are true Tesla-fans they should study his science, because it’s stupid to admire a great genius only for things related to his private life.

Most of us incels are total genetical garbage, both lowIQ and physically unfit, so it’s pointless to cope like MCTOWs are doing, it’s too stupid, it’s humiliating.

MCTOWs are bad copers and liars, they are sexless and divorce-raped, in other words they are incels in denial, all of them.

It’s useless to lie about your current situation, if you’re an incel you can’t pretend to be some sort of MGTOW alpha male if foids have SENT you your own way.

And, another thing: today’s lookists standards are much higher than before, social media and dating apps have ruined the sexual market. So, if youngcels feels miserable despite the fact they are in good health condition with a normie look is nothing to be surprised of.

You nibbas running around in circles tbh

 

[DarkKnight]

there no such thing as a relationship with a woman over 22 or so

she's been fucked out and gave her best years away. she's just some used up hooker at that point, and no, she doesn't like you, lmao

beggers can't be choosers ngl.

 

[lastchancel]

incels dont ascend they betabux

 

[DarkKnight]

incels dont ascend they betabux

we are always gonna have to pay for it regardless. Any chance to ascend is good.

 

[Albocel]

incels dont ascend they betabux

 

[NorthAfricanIncel]

This thread is going to be very negative and depressing, so leave now if you're trying to cope.

I've been thinking about some of the oldcels (22+) [...]

Ok so I'm 24. So I'm an oldcel already according to your definition ? Just fucking kill me already...

 

[MudslimeMo]

There is more to life than femoids ,I'm 51 and am not dead inside, once must divert the energy from sex to hobbies and interests and causes like helping other younger men here for example now that I'm a member why be depressed all the time. God placed me here disabled and a man and sure I never had a femoid but I have self-respect. If your saying I should go off and die well you can go fuck yourself this is not about me its about you young men who may benefit from Oldcels on the Old side to me thirty is nothing a man gets good once they are mature some. I'm in physical pain and lived with it since birth and can't walk well without pain and have issues with emotional instability when under stress and have others issues you have it good and your complaining your not pretty or have other issues. I have far more problems. Why not try to help each other and more vital enlarge our part of the Manosphere since feminism and the Inquisition of the SJW's is now the enemy and we all need each other.

Many great men in history never had sex, and were real men. On the list is Kant, Tesla, Lewis Carroll, Newton and many other men chose to devote their energies away from sex now we might not choose but we can direct our energies to good things many of you could benefit from going to the public library and get educated. I spent my youth through now honing my mind by reading books on many topics. You know books they are paper bound in covers and you read words in them and then learn things. There do that.

With all due respect, most of what you said is bluepilled coping. I'm not advocating the rope to incels, but there is no use pretending that you have been denied your second most basic biological urge after survival and are still happy : reproduction. We are inherently defective subhumans, and no amount of coping and sublimation will change that. You are a well known scientist or doctor in your field, but are incel? I'm not jealous in the slightest. Meanwhile, the 20 year old 6'2 hot bartender has more intrinsic value than you can ever dream of, AND will get a fairly well paying job using his looks.

The best thing to do as an incel - especially an oldcel - is to minimize your contribution to society as much as possible, and to maximize comfort and minimize responsibilities and stress. Why work a high stress job when you can just LDAR on an easy one that pays less, but is enough to sustain your rotting lifestyle?

 

[lastchancel]

beggers can't be choosers ngl.

beggars can and should be choosers.

 

[Michael15651]

who cares about their validation? I want a hole to breed

 

[Angryatsociety]

Dude tbh this along with Juggernaut law has the ability to fuck you up honesty id say just have sex once as a friend and get over it without any marriage vows then move on with looking forward to death.

 

[quinn24]

the optimistic case scenario still sucks shit and is not sufficient.

it is more realistic to cope

 

[Deleted member 11159]

There's no such thing as "ascending" after your teens. Like you said, it's just advanced escortcelling.

 

[Uther]

This thread is going to be very negative and depressing, so leave now if you're trying to cope.
I know it sounds stupid, but part of me wants to die a virgin so I never have to deal with this internal dialogue. And I'm not just talking out of my ass because something similar happened to me when I got certain social experiences I missed out on as a teen. At first you feel like you're in heaven but eventually you'll be reminded of how far behind you are from everyone else. And you'll want to fucking die again.

I feel like there's a point of no return, where it's too late to recover. People say life isn't a race, but that's bullshit. We're only here a short time and we're supposed to make the best of it. The agepill destroyed me. Happy holidays!

I have been having the same exact thoughts now for about 2 years. My "best years" between 12-19 were spent being bullied and escapism via video games, watching TV, youtube, pornography and forums. I attempted to ascend via the gym and I developed an eating disorder and after a year I had a mental breakdown, started drinking, still do. To cut the story short I started searching for the truth of my predicament and have learned and experienced much and improved much. I feel more 'enlightened' and 'aware' but at the same time less human, I seem to have lost my mind, naivety and hope. I feel like Adam after eating the fruit from the tree of knowledge.

Even if were to acquire a female companion who genuinely loved me, I feel as if I would have to fake it, I simply cannot un-know what I know or un-experience what I have experienced. I will never be able to experience that young naive love and live in blissful ignorance.