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SuicideFuel I don't understand oldcels who "ascend"

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This thread is going to be very negative and depressing, so leave now if you're trying to cope.

I've been thinking about some of the oldcels (22+) who "ascended" recently and I can't help but wonder what the fuck they're so happy about. Like no one cares, it isn't even an accomplishment at your age. You missed out on the best years of life. Most of your peers already experienced this a decade ago. They'll always see you as inferior and treat you like a retarded child who just learned to tie your shoes. You'll never be respected or loved. Your girl means the world to you but you're worthless to her. She gave her best years to other men who were superior to you in every way. She's already seen and done it all. What the fuck do you really have to offer? It's only a matter of time before she cheats or dumps your ass. Face it, there will always be a power imbalance in your relationship because of your inexperience. Your girl knows this and will probably use it to manipulate you. Why are you even doing this? You're just her ATM machine. Your relationship is a glorified form of prostitution.

I know it sounds stupid, but part of me wants to die a virgin so I never have to deal with this internal dialogue. And I'm not just talking out of my ass because something similar happened to me when I got certain social experiences I missed out on as a teen. At first you feel like you're in heaven but eventually you'll be reminded of how far behind you are from everyone else. And you'll want to fucking die again.

I feel like there's a point of no return, where it's too late to recover. People say life isn't a race, but that's bullshit. We're only here a short time and we're supposed to make the best of it. The agepill destroyed me. Happy holidays! :)
 
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Narcissists are never happy about what they get and always cry to have more. Chances are if you are like that you wouldn't even be happy if you started dating at 14, I have known people like that.
 
Goodbye
 
Nothing will ever repair your lonely outcast teenage years.
 
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This thread is going to be very negative and depressing, so leave now if you're trying to cope.

I've been thinking about some of the oldcels (22+) who "ascended" recently and I can't help but wonder what the fuck they're so happy about. Like no one cares, it isn't even an accomplishment at your age. You missed out on the best years of life. Most of your peers already experienced this a decade ago. They'll always see you as inferior and treat you like a retarded child who just learned to tie your shoes. You'll never be respected or loved. Your girl means the world to you but you're worthless to her. She gave her best years to other men who were superior to you in every way. She's already seen and done it all. What the fuck do you really have to offer? It's only a matter of time before she cheats or dumps your ass. Face it, there will always be a power imbalance in your relationship because of your inexperience. Your girl knows this and will probably use it to manipulate you. Why are you even doing this? You're just her ATM machine. Your relationship is a glorified form of prostitution.

I know it sounds stupid, but part of me wants to die a virgin so I never have to deal with this internal dialogue. And I'm not just talking out of my ass because something similar happened to me when I got certain social experiences I missed out on as a teen. At first you feel like you're in heaven but eventually you'll be reminded of how far behind you are from everyone else. And you'll want to fucking die again.

I feel like there's a point of no return, where it's too late to recover. People say life isn't a race, but that's bullshit. We're only here short time and we're supposed to make the best of it. The agepill destroyed me. Happy holidays! :)
30+ is definitely too late. If you are mid 25-28 it might still be worth trying, fact is you want to live together for a few yrs before having kids, maybe travel a bit, etc. The problem is you have no room for error, if you do get someone in the mid 20s u have to make it work. If you manage to get a 7+ woman though than it would be worth it. Fact is most mid 20 women who are even 3's can still have fucken higher standards.
 
Narcissists are never happy about what they get and always cry to have more. Chances are if you are like that you wouldn't even be happy if you started dating at 14, I have known people like that.
unfortunately I'm not a narcissist Mr. armchair psychologist. Been in the system for many years, I'm just a depressed motherfucker.
 
They all return, after the female leaves them, they return to the fold, weeping.

I have normies friends, sometimes I’m their emotional support, when they get a GF, they go into bluepill-mode, but after that emotional rollercoaster trip they come back, fucking bastards.

As an incel you better not bluepill yourself, you always have to think that you’re just a beta male, foids have a higher SMV than yours.
 
who cares about their validation? I want a hole to breed
 
They all return, after the female leaves them, they return to the fold, weeping.

I have normies friends, sometimes I’m their emotional support, when they get a GF, they go into bluepill-mode, but after that emotional rollercoaster trip they come back, fucking bastards.
same here bro. And that's exactly why I said what I did in @ColdLightOfDay 's recent thread. Retards think I'm coping but its the opposite.
 
Absolutely brutal
 
22+ is an oldcel? I’ve seen tons of people claim that you have to be that age to even be considered incel.

Which is it ffs?
 
You're just her ATM machine. Your relationship is a glorified form of prostitution.
By the only experience i had, I can confirm. And you'll ascend by having a former Becky/ high tier Becky that now looks like a bell and that have been previously fucked even by dogs.
 
unfortunately I'm not a narcissist Mr. armchair psychologist. Been in the system for many years, I'm just a depressed motherfucker.
That is to be seen, but I can't take seriously someone who keeps crying after getting sex and stuff just because they think about their teen years. Fakecel problems, as they say.
 
who cares about their validation? I want a hole to breed
then you're already ahead of the game. @BlkPillPres is right. The best thing is to kill your ego and focus on your biological needs. Easier said than done of course. I might have to kill myself first
 
It's not having sex early that's the appeal, I don't mind having sex late. As long as I can do it as part of the right community.
 
That is to be seen, but I can't take seriously someone who keeps crying after getting sex and stuff just because they think about their teen years. Fakecel problems, as they say.
what is to be seen? I have some of the top professionals in the state working on my case. You really feel you're more qualified? lol
 
same here bro. And that's exactly why I said what I did in @ColdLightOfDay 's recent thread. Retards think I'm coping but its the opposite.
That would depend on the PSL of your friends man, of course the lower down you are the harder it becomes. I know many normies around the mid tier and life is in no way hard for them in that way, to claim it’s endemic to society at all levels is just nonsense tbh.
 
That would depend on the PSL of your friends man, of course the lower down you are the harder it becomes. I know many normies around the mid tier and life is in no way hard for them in that way, to claim it’s endemic to society at all levels is just nonsense tbh.
I've mentioned this in the past, my friends are high-tier normies. One is a legit Chad. If they're struggling, it's beyond over for us. You want to think different because it gives you hope. You want to believe that going betabux will erase the pain. It won't.
 
what is to be seen? I have some of the top professionals in the state working on my case. You really feel you're more qualified? lol
Even if I were more qualified it would be silly to think that I could give a diagnosis based on a little exchange on the internet, obviously it was a tongue-in-cheek statement.
 
I've mentioned this in the past, my friends are high-tier normies. One is a legit Chad. If they're struggling, it's beyond over for us.
Likewise, and I see nothing of the sort, so I guess we must be living on different planets.

Do you live in some kind of rural shittown or some close-knit religious community? I can honestly think of no other reason your experience of life could be so vastly different from mine.
 
The whole point is that you are better than before. You are still a sad fuck? Well you are a sad fuck that got sex now.
 
Likewise, and I see nothing of the sort, so I guess we must be living on different planets.

Do you live in some kind of rural shittown or some close-knit religious community? I can honestly think of no other reason your experience of life could be so vastly different from mine.
I highly doubt that from the conversations we've had. I'm not about to post my location, but no, it's not religious at all. High degeneracy tbh. I went to a major party school
 
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This thread is going to be very negative and depressing, so leave now if you're trying to cope.

I've been thinking about some of the oldcels (22+) who "ascended" recently and I can't help but wonder what the fuck they're so happy about. Like no one cares, it isn't even an accomplishment at your age. You missed out on the best years of life. Most of your peers already experienced this a decade ago. They'll always see you as inferior and treat you like a retarded child who just learned to tie your shoes. You'll never be respected or loved. Your girl means the world to you but you're worthless to her. She gave her best years to other men who were superior to you in every way. She's already seen and done it all. What the fuck do you really have to offer? It's only a matter of time before she cheats or dumps your ass. Face it, there will always be a power imbalance in your relationship because of your inexperience. Your girl knows this and will probably use it to manipulate you. Why are you even doing this? You're just her ATM machine. Your relationship is a glorified form of prostitution.

I know it sounds stupid, but part of me wants to die a virgin so I never have to deal with this internal dialogue. And I'm not just talking out of my ass because something similar happened to me when I got certain social experiences I missed out on as a teen. At first you feel like you're in heaven but eventually you'll be reminded of how far behind you are from everyone else. And you'll want to fucking die again.

I feel like there's a point of no return, where it's too late to recover. People say life isn't a race, but that's bullshit. We're only here a short time and we're supposed to make the best of it. The agepill destroyed me. Happy holidays! :)

Well it is like somebody who spent 40 years in prison innocently. Has he lost his entire life? Yes! Is he still going to be happy he doesn't die in jail? Yes... This is just the way things are.
 
Well it is like somebody who spent 40 years in prison innocently. Has he lost his entire life? Yes! Is he still going to be happy he doesn't die in jail? Yes... This is just the way things are.
legit, that's a good analogy. What can you really do with your life at that point?
 
Beats rope. But yes, it's over for oldcels :cryfeels:
 
I highly doubt that from the conversations we've had. I'm not about to post my location, but no, it's not religious at all. High degeneracy tbh. I went to a major party school
You highly doubt that I would have a life outside this forum when you yourself are fucking NEET and one of the highest posters on the forum? JFL at that one dude.
 
legit, that's a good analogy. What can you really do with your life at that point?

Well at that age when you get out of jail even thouching the grass is a great event in your life because you haven't done it in 4 decades. Eventhough from the perspective of others your life is a joke for you it will still feel like paradies. And this is how oldcels feel when they get to fuck a used up roastie. For most people it is just a used up whore but for them it is like they stick their dick into paradise because they have been deprived of pussy all their lifes.
 
there no such thing as a relationship with a woman over 22 or so

she's been fucked out and gave her best years away. she's just some used up hooker at that point, and no, she doesn't like you, lmao
 
You highly doubt that I would have a life outside this forum when you yourself are fucking NEET and one of the highest posters on the forum? JFL at that one dude.
looks like I hit a nerve. I'm sure you can recall the conversation we had in the summer. Your response suggested you've never been to a festival or similar environment, so yeah, I think it's safe to say. Regardless of my current circumstances and the fact that I joined over a year ago.
 
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well as an oldcel at 38 i can give some insight

it's why i've changed my mind on SEAmaxxing

I could go to SEASIA and get a foid desperate to leave her country and will date literally any man.

but how is that ascending, failing to get any women in your own country just shows how pathetic you are, "ascending" with some foid who is only interested in your money and a visa out of their shithole

I would forever have an inner monologue of knowing it's fake relationship built on money, you can't complain about western women being gold diggers then go get a foid from a poor country who's only motivation is to move to a better life.

I feel like at my age staying incel is just the best option
 
looks like I hit a nerve. I'm sure you can recall the conversation we had in the summer. Your response suggested you've never been to a festival or similar environment, so yeah, I think it's safe to say. Regardless of my current circumstances and the fact that I joined over a year ago.

a lot of us on the board were puas in our 20s and went out to venues /clubs /events endlessly and got nothing for it.

going out and be social is completely pointless without looks
 
a lot of us on the board were puas in our 20s and went out to venues /clubs /events endlessly and got nothing for it.

going out and be social is completely pointless without looks
yeah I know. He's trying to imply that I don't know what I'm talking about, like I haven't been out there. He doesn't believe that even normies have it bad in 2018. JFL
 
a lot of us on the board were puas in our 20s and went out to venues /clubs /events endlessly and got nothing for it.

going out and be social is completely pointless without looks

tbh
 
looks like I hit a nerve. I'm sure you can recall the conversation we had in the summer. Your response suggested you've never been to a festival or similar environment, so I yeah I think it's safe to say. Regardless of my current circumstances.
The only one triggered around here is you buddy, I cannot help but laugh reading this because although I have stopped going to clubs the last few years, going to festivals in the summer is literally my high point of the year! I have been going to Glastonbury every year since I was 15 ffs! JFL when someone who’s NEET thinks they can trigger you over not getting out enough, lol (no offence to NEETcels intended)
 
There is more to life than femoids ,I'm 51 and am not dead inside, once must divert the energy from sex to hobbies and interests and causes like helping other younger men here for example now that I'm a member why be depressed all the time. God placed me here disabled and a man and sure I never had a femoid but I have self-respect. If your saying I should go off and die well you can go fuck yourself this is not about me its about you young men who may benefit from Oldcels on the Old side to me thirty is nothing a man gets good once they are mature some. I'm in physical pain and lived with it since birth and can't walk well without pain and have issues with emotional instability when under stress and have others issues you have it good and your complaining your not pretty or have other issues. I have far more problems. Why not try to help each other and more vital enlarge our part of the Manosphere since feminism and the Inquisition of the SJW's is now the enemy and we all need each other.

Many great men in history never had sex, and were real men. On the list is Kant, Tesla, Lewis Carroll, Newton and many other men chose to devote their energies away from sex now we might not choose but we can direct our energies to good things many of you could benefit from going to the public library and get educated. I spent my youth through now honing my mind by reading books on many topics. You know books they are paper bound in covers and you read words in them and then learn things. There do that.
 
The only one triggered around here is you buddy, I cannot help but laugh reading this because although I have stopped going to clubs the last few years, going to festivals in the summer is literally my high point of the year! I have been going to Glastonbury every year since I was 15 ffs! JFL when someone who’s NEET thinks they can trigger you over not getting out enough, lol (no offence to NEETcels intended)
I've only been NEET 2 months but keep coping. You're triggered af and it shows.
 
I've only been NEET 2 months but keep coping. You're triggered af and it shows.
Keep coping brother, I am physically incapable of being triggered by someone in your unenviable position - though pity will now prevent me from hammering home to you why.
 
Look at you ppl flexing at one another. On an incel forum of all places...
 
Look at you ppl flexing at one another. On an incel forum of all places...
no flex. He made a passive-aggressive comment suggesting that I don't have credibility, so I responded
Do you live in some kind of rural shittown or some close-knit religious community? I can honestly think of no other reason your experience of life could be so vastly different from mine.
like wtf is the point of this ^ reply? lol.
 
I think that oldcels wanting to "ascend" are waging the wrong war. Basically, ascending with a girl that loves you is relevant when you are a teen, as your goals during these days is building the most basic social, physical and intellectual skills.

From 22 to 35, the goals change : it is about starting well your career and reproducing in order to both honor and perpuate your genes, transmitted generation after generation for thousands of years.
(Edit : even after 36, it's still about career and passing your genes)

"Ascension" as described on these forums, which includes love and compassion, is completely pointless, as it is part of the previous step but not that one. Even if you are lagging behind in terms of skills and experience, you have to focus on only winning the current fight, not the one from teen years. However, if "ascension" simply means fucking and having a child (which is not ascension in my eyes but just reproduction) , then it is legitimate.
 
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One thing that's curious is that Chad will almost never marry a virgin foid. Celebrity Chads usually marry experienced degenerate roasties even though they could get someone younger and even though they don't even have to get married. Maybe they know something we don't?

Why not try to help each other and more vital enlarge our part of the Manosphere since feminism and the Inquisition of the SJW's is now the enemy and we all need each other.
We are incompatible with the red pillers and MGTOW even though we believe most of the same things about foids and society. And I don't want to be an ally of some plate juggling strutting sexhaving piece of shit.

many of you could benefit from going to the public library and get educated. I spent my youth through now honing my mind by reading books on many topics. You know books they are paper bound in covers and you read words in them and then learn things. There do that.
Shit, you are old. I'm also an oldcel at 36 but paper books are retarded and libraries are for homeless and mentally ill people.

Even if you are lagging behind in terms of skills and experience, you have to focus on only winning the current fight, not the one from teen years.
That's the most inspiring thing I read on this forum in months, maybe ever.
 
One thing that's curious is that Chad will almost never marry a virgin foid. Celebrity Chads usually marry experienced degenerate roasties even though they could get someone younger and even though they don't even have to get married. Maybe they know something we don't?
they have a similar level of experience, so of course it wouldn't bother them. The difference is that this hypothetical foid would actually like Chad. Mutual attraction is what makes a relationship worthwhile
 

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