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Serious I don't mind being ethnic, because, I have what people desire about being white.
Like I said, a some southern ones have some MENA phenos:
but most have distinctly European ones and look White
(ignore the obvious)
That's not Andronovo directly. Because majority of steppe (70%) in India isn't R1a-Z types that was present in steppe samples but R1a L657 that is native to India. Also avoid ad hominems.
L657 is itself a mutation of Z93 you nigtard
No, faggot. You do it all the time
Exactly, this particular mutation of it isn't present in any other ancient steppe sample or modern populations except India
I am not doing it now with you
Doesn’t matter, it mutated from Z93, which is from the Steppe. Either the mutation arose within South Asian Steppe descendants or potentially within 1 Eurasian Steppe population that all migrated downward and left none behind
Yes no one's denying this. That Swat Valley steppe which shows female mediation is different from the steppe present in modern Indians.
But Steppe and Indo-Aryan culture in Modern Indians isn't directly Andronovo people. Lot of it was borrowed from BMAC people they interacted with.
That seems like a very improbable hypothesis
Even so, those people descended from Proto-Indo-Europeans on the paternal line if they were able to pass down R1a1a Y-haplogroups
Okay but the point is this disproves a large scale invasion/migration directly from Andronovo culture alone. If anything Andronovo specific haplogroups are mostly from female biased contribution
This debate again @anandkonda ?
Genetic Evidence on the Origins of Indian Caste Populations
The origins and affinities of the ∼1 billion people living on the subcontinent of India have long been contested. This is owing, in part, to the many different waves of immigrants that have influenced the genetic structure of India. In the most ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
"However, admixture with West Eurasian males was greater than admixture with West Eurasian females, resulting in a higher affinity to European Y chromosomes.
"The high affinity of caste Y chromosomes with those of Europeans suggests that the majority of immigrating West Eurasians may have been males. As might be expected if West Eurasian males appropriated the highest positions in the caste system, the upper caste group exhibits a lower genetic distance to Europeans than the middle or lower castes."
Vast majority of North Indians share a common materal ancestry and Europe related MtDNA is very low in India.
"Less than 10% of the maternal lineages of the caste populations had an ancestor outside India in the past 12,000 years (Kivisild et al. 1999a, 1999b). mtDNA profiles from a larger set of populations all over the subcontinent have bolstered the view of fundamental genomic unity of Indians (Roychoudhury et al. 2001). In contrast, the Y-chromosome genetic distance estimates showed that the chromosomes of Indian caste populations were more closely related to Europeans than to eastern Asians (Bamshad et al. 2001). The tendency of higher caste status to associate with increasing affinities to European (specifically to eastern European) populations hinted at a recent male-mediated introduction of western Eurasian genes into the Indian castes' gene pool."
Source : https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC379225/
Did you even read what we were discussing? The discussion was on whether Andronovo people directly migrated/invaded in Indian subcontinentThis debate again @anandkonda ?
Genetic Evidence on the Origins of Indian Caste Populations
The origins and affinities of the ∼1 billion people living on the subcontinent of India have long been contested. This is owing, in part, to the many different waves of immigrants that have influenced the genetic structure of India. In the most ...
"However, admixture with West Eurasian males was greater than admixture with West Eurasian females, resulting in a higher affinity to European Y chromosomes.
"The high affinity of caste Y chromosomes with those of Europeans suggests that the majority of immigrating West Eurasians may have been males. As might be expected if West Eurasian males appropriated the highest positions in the caste system, the upper caste group exhibits a lower genetic distance to Europeans than the middle or lower castes."
Vast majority of North Indians share a common materal ancestry and Europe related MtDNA is very low in India.
"Less than 10% of the maternal lineages of the caste populations had an ancestor outside India in the past 12,000 years (Kivisild et al. 1999a, 1999b). mtDNA profiles from a larger set of populations all over the subcontinent have bolstered the view of fundamental genomic unity of Indians (Roychoudhury et al. 2001). In contrast, the Y-chromosome genetic distance estimates showed that the chromosomes of Indian caste populations were more closely related to Europeans than to eastern Asians (Bamshad et al. 2001). The tendency of higher caste status to associate with increasing affinities to European (specifically to eastern European) populations hinted at a recent male-mediated introduction of western Eurasian genes into the Indian castes' gene pool."
Source : https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC379225/
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No one gives a fuck, this is an incel forum, if your so-called white features didn't give you a foid to fuck with then why even bothER
Don't know if they were Andronovo or not but my second article clearly states that European gene flow in India was male mediated and that female mediated gene flow was very low in the last 12,000 Years.
The point isn't about the Modern steppe in Indians. The point was if the Andronovo steppe in particular is male or female mediated. And direct Andronovo isn't the steppe source for modern Indians. If anything it's female mediated
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