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I came across this video on kikestagram upon opening the site. The woman above has freed herself from a betabuxx relationship with a cuck she never desired, and is now free to sleep around with Chads at 33. But I wasn't fixiated on the video more than I was the comment section.
These are just a few of the comments she's receiving.
this comment summed it up best, apart from the "violence against women statistics". jfl. women aren't getting into relationships anymore because they can't LTR with Chad, not because of "muh physical violence".
Women DO NOT care about family, or having children. The birth rates are plummeting, divorce rate is 50% and largely initiated by women. Women are in no rush to start a family with a sub-Chad. Women's lives revolve around three things, Money, Status, and Chad. Always remember that. That is their three motives in life. Everything they do, their every action, is in pursuit of those three things.
This whole comment section is filled with retarded normies who think women are wasting their prime years sleeping around instead of starting a family. When women DON'T GIVE A SHIT. They have literally aborted 1/3 of gen-z. You think they give a fuck about children and family life?! JFL
I came across this video on kikestagram upon opening the site. The woman above has freed herself from a betabuxx relationship with a cuck she never desired, and is now free to sleep around with Chads at 33. But I wasn't fixiated on the video more than I was the comment section.
this comment summed it up best, apart from the "violence against women statistics". jfl. women aren't getting into relationships anymore because they can't LTR with Chad, not because of "muh physical violence".
Women DO NOT care about family, or having children. The birth rates are plummeting, divorce rate is 50% and largely initiated by women. Women are in no rush to start a family with a sub-Chad. Women's lives revolve around three things, Money, Status, and Chad. Always remember that. That is their three motives in life. Everything they do, their every action, is in pursuit of those three things.
This whole comment section is filled with retarded normies who think women are wasting their prime years sleeping around instead of starting a family. When women DON'T GIVE A SHIT. They have literally aborted 1/3 of gen-z. You think they give a fuck about children and family life?! JFL
great thread, I love that you mentioned how women aborted 1/3 of gen Z, insane numbers. Since Roe v. Wade in the 70s, women have aborted billions of people. A large chunk of the world population is simply missing. And yet, even advanced level MRA's like the guy who wrote the high quality "the empathy gap" book on how society is gynocentric, even he will not admit that abortion is murder.
If men admitted to themselves that women deleted billions of humans from existence like its nothing and that this is in fact worthy of being called a crime, then their entire worldivew would topple. It would mean women are borderline psycho towards babies, it would mean women disproportionally out-shine men when it comes to violence, murder, callousness, narcissism - the entire image of "woman good, man bad" would staunchly invert into "man victim, woman literally Satan."
The inherent simp-drive in men is so strong that they can smell this roast burning in the oven when tackling abortion and infancy murder stats, but still wont commit to saying the obvious, which is that women are historically the most violent group, the most murderous group, that women have inherent in-group bias, despise men and openly undermine and attack them. Women are the class enemy of men.
If we count abortion as murder then women have killed more people in the last 50 years than all human wars of all previous 6000 years of recorded history combined. Let that sink in. Women have committed a genocide that would have on paper 250x the victim count of the holocaust, if we accept the six million figure for that.
And worse: Men enabled them to do this. Male doctors, men just watched and even celebrated it. And right wingers, MRA's and all these secret-crypto simps just twiddled their thumbs and didnt even call them out. Because men do not care about children either. It is always about the woman. The woman comes first, then the children, that's why guys get into relationships.
In research, men desire relationships and marriage more than women, but this does not indicate they want to have kids. They want female validation. If you grew up in family with mother and father you know this. Your own dad worships your mom and other women over his own kids, well, over his own sons lmao, cuz they also worship the daughters. The woman decides whether the couple has kids or not, the man is just a servant. Men gave women contraception, the pill and abortion to please them, hoping this would garner them favors with the opposite sex. It doesn't. They inherently hate you, you fucking dumb shit (writing in case some of these idiots read this).
I have stated it before and will again: The drive to worship women is so intense in both genders that they will never blame women. Never. Watch for these copes when women's evil is addressed:
1. using the word "modern" to conotate that this was different in the past, and its only "modern" women that are like this, or "modern society"
2. instead of saying "women did XYZ" you see them switch from gendered terms to "society," "people did," "the culture"
3. blaming some group of other men for "ruining" women, as in the jews, blacks, "the elites" etc as if women just few years ago were these divine spirits that would just suck men's dick and be inherently friendly and have personality of a fucking golden retriever, when we have 6000 years of men making exactly the same complaints about women, which is a sign that
a) human nature hasnt changed ever
b) ergo, gender relations havent changed
c) men even back then were powerless and resorted to impotent groveling and coping just like now - "omg women are gonna end up lonely and men will walk away bla bla" "omg women are inferior gender, men are like so much better, women need men" - cope cope and cope again, your balls should be dipped in magma for such foul and wretched coping. Admit to yourself you worship women, they are your entire reason to exist, work, they are your identity, your galactic nexus, you are like billions of particles of star dust, each dust mote representing a drifting male, slowly orbiting this center of female gravity. Stop the cope, return to earth, stand on your own two feet, grab your fucking dick and say no to it for once you rat.
Another hilarious cope is that normies think that being a pornstar or being promiscous somehow ruins a girls life. Its insane. In reality they still have exactly same number of simps as before, they can still get married, settle and nobody socially shames them at all. Here is a video of a girl being interviewed after working as a pornstar for half a year. She says she expected social backlash but received the opposite, people even defend her:
The channel soft white underbelly has recently released two videos of women talking about having extremely promiscuous lifestyles and enjoying it. 90% of the comments on both videos claim that these women just have heavy trauma, were abused as children, that their life must take some terrible turn in future bla bla - notice, normies literally can not fathom that a woman might no be this pure, sexless angel.
If a woman does anything considered icky, she must have been abused, tortured, raped, usually by a man. Some mans corrupting influence made her that way, because everyone just knows, normal women are not into sex and other such nasty things that only dirty disgusting "porn addicted" men are into.
It does not even occur to them that these may simply just be normal women and they like sex and they love getting paid 1000s upon 1000s for a few minutes of sexual intercourse, no shit. Here are the videos:
This idea that prostitutes and promiscuous women all are somehow damaged because all women are born in perfect pristine state until men corrupt them with the evil penis, it goes back centuries. Even in the 1800s they had these moral panics and kept claiming prostitutes would all end in gutter and die alone in some hovel, riddled with STDs. This has never been the case. Prostitutes are not forced into it by poverty, they earn more than minimum wage workers, they dont have to pay taxes if they get paid in cash and gifts, its a low intensity, low labor job - in short, being a prostitute is a privilige for all intends and purposes, considering the alternatives.
I argue that many prostitutes have boyfriends, maybe even families and that this is way more common than we think. What happens to all the young prostitutes out there right now once they get older? Are we actually supposed to believe that millions upon millions of young prostitutes just vanish POOF into a cloud of fairy dust once they hit a certain age, or that they all go to the elephant graveyard, some mystical place whereto worn out whores pilgrimage once their time has come?
Here is the truth - they settle and have normal lives. Perfectly normal. Its the same as with personality vs looks - promiscuity is not visible, you cant see a girls past. One time I saw a documentary interview with a whore in amsterdam, she was from the carribean and said she is saving up and buying land in the carribean and already owns a plantation. This bitch was fucking white dudes while owning fucking land in her home country. Where do you think this woman will go when shes done being a whore? Davey Jones locker? She will go home and settle on her fucking plantation.
The same applies to drugs. Most normies think once you touch drugs you are fucked for life and become toothless hobo on corner screaming at people. The facts are different. Most drug users are normies, teachers, truck drivers, doctors, police officers - normal people. You cant spot them, there are no signs. Most drug users do not become addicted and quit on their own before age 40, like 90%. The people normies refer to are extreme outliers that had shit lives to begin with, and due to systemic life failure on every level end up in rehab clinics and prison over and over.
Drugs are a co-incidental to the 1000 other issues plagueing these people but normies reduce everything to one factor, while ignoring that they, half their friend group and their own fucking parents all played with drugs at one point or another and live perfectly normal lives. In the same vein, most prostitutes, escorts, OF girls live perfectly normal lives and will die in 50 years surrounded by whatever level of family they chose to have without anyone ever knowing they did this shit (even if they knew, nobody would care).
The normie however can not conceptualize this, so he imagines that these women end up alone on crack in a house full of trashbags and 20 dead cat corpses and shit and piss if you get me. If they admited to themselves that any woman could be like the women in those videos, then they would have to look at their wifes, gfs, mothers, sisters very differently, it undermines their entire concept of women as a whole. So they must special plead, engage in special pleading about these openly promiscuous women, by claiming they are just outliers and only act like that because they were abused by men and "normal healthy well adjusted" women are not like that, no no.
On kiwifarms this prettyboy chad once posted his face, said incels are right BP is true and then laid out how many girls he fucked and is planning to fuck. The replies? Shit like "these were not real women, its easy to fuck sluts, real women would never lower themselves to something like this" - notice, exactly the same special pleading as in the other cases. They cant imagine women being promiscuous and enjoying it because it's like flinging poop on an altar, on a religious object. Their worship of women is that deep and zealous.
Naturally, they apply the inverse retard logic to men. Good men cant exist, all men are by default suspect, incomplete humans, hyper-sexual cretins ready to explode into sexually frustrated rage and this is in their view the "natural state" and if a man does not act like this, he is defect, gay, dangerous. However, if the man openly expresses sexual frustration he is called incel, looser, creepy. Damned if you damned if you dont.
Another few things about this whole pattern: Men claiming these women will end up unhappy, deranged and alone in old age is male projection. Men face actual isolation constantly because men, unlike women, have no inherent in-group. Men are always in an unstable competitive outgroup, where they compete with other men to get access to the female in-group. For men, social isolation is a very real threat. Unlike women, men can get socially ostracized, which women can not because of women worship in society.
Just consider that HR departments are 70% staffed by vagina goblins. If you want to succeed in this society, you must pleasure women in some form, pay tribute to them. Competing with other men, aka punching down on lower status men to gain status yourself so you can fly up, up into the delirious blue sky, hoping that one day you too might touch the face of "god" (getting accepted by women as a group), even this is just blatant foid worship.
Women worship status and power, so men go like DUH OK MAM I SHALL TOO WHATEVER YOU SAY BAWSS and again, society then claims this is "natural" and that men are just inherently more competitive and violent and women passive, cute, tender soft home makers. Men imitate women in the hope of being accepted by women. Just like christians imitate jesus, men imitate women by trying to be hypergamous like women, by appealing to female sensibilities, in the hope of gaining the much desired female grace. Alongside that blessed grace you receive many societal priviliges.
We all know that married men get treated better by women. It is easier to get jobs when you have a girlfriend or wife. People stop seeing you as a creep if you are a "kept" man. Notice these things, etch them into the inside of your skull. The average man is a spiritual tranny, he has no identity apart from women, so he is basically an extension of women already, he sees himself as a failed woman that needs to complete herself to gain "female citizenship" in a sense, he wants to become a naturalized citizen of "united states of women," he wants that green card. Society, right wingers, -> women are society - they created the foundation for MtF trannies by telling men that they can be "half-men" aka "not real men" for falling short of female expecations. If you can be a genderless nothing because you fail to please women, then you are half-way to being a tranny.
Think about how insane that is. Women and right wing men with their hate of men literally created MtF trannies. They are responsible for that. Men want to be women because they can never feel like they are fully human, since only women are seen as being inherently human. So the natural logical response for many is to become women. The average coping male who goes to gym and worships power is also a tranny, but he directs his tranny drive not into becoming a woman in body, but in spirit, by relentlessly shitting on other men, trying to push them out of the rat race, flexing status symbols and so on. His entire life is dedicated to achieving female approval.
Imagine it like this: A hunter desperate to catch his prey. He is hungry. He keeps failing to catch his prey. His measures become more and more intense. He studies the preys ways, it's eating habits. In his desperation to catch the prey, he begins to adopt it's ways. He smears himself in prey poop, wears prey skin to look like it. Since he is constantly stalking the prey, his lifestyle begins matching the prey's, even his sleep cycle. After years of this, he has basically become the prey. This is men. The prey are women. Male MtF trannies are just a symptomp of this. Most men are trannies, but instead of cutting their dick off they change their entire persona, try to stop masturbating, watching porn, they cut their friends off, they torture their body in gym, use roids - they are testing different strategies to get the preys attention, but nothing works.
When the man finally gets what he wants, he is at first overjoyed. Finally he has gotten her, finally he can live under female dominion! WEEEE! But stark his is disilusionment when he realizes that he was the prey all along and women were watching his stupid efforts from a far, laughing. At tihs point men start coping about being slaves to their gfs and wifes by claiming they have matured, they have responsibilities now, this is just how marriage has to be, this is normal, the abuse they suffer is natural bla bla. Many start looking down on unmarried single men and glory in their own submissive state to their "better half" or as they often call her, "the boss." There is an old african proverb: "A man chases a woman until she catches him."
Anyway, this is why women being alone and not marrying and having kids - it threatens men. Because it means these women are happy without them, which then implies that the man is gonna be isolated from society, because women dont need him. This is the origin of that whole shit like "the wall" cope and the cat lady cope. Women prefer the company of other women to company of men and this triggers existential dread in men, because women are an existential object to men, that is how deep the worship goes. Women fulfill a similar function to god, which man falls short of. But women see themselves as goddesses by default who can do no wrong.
Here is another reddit thread where someone asked, you know, what happens to all the whores after they retire? Do they just atomize, turn into a fine spray and vanish into the south wind?
I was a sex worker in my early 20s. I went to a coding bootcamp and got a job as a software developer. Now I'm back in college learning AI. It's very common for sex workers to save up money over the years and get into real estate when they're older. You've probably met plenty and didn't even know it.
I’m 50, I was a stripper for 20 years. Now I own my own house and 2 cars. I live with my 32 year old boyfriend. I work at a sandwich shop. I don’t need to make much money anymore cause everything is paid for.
I want to stress this - only men see promiscuous women as bad and destined to fail, because promiscuous women trigger male existential insecurity because these women arent fucking them, so they must be fucking other guys = I am outside the game, looking in, like a cuck, and I will die alone. Women do not see promiscuity as bad at all because they benefit from it with zero downsides.
In the 1700s there was an infamous british whore called Priss Fotheringham. She was known all over england and when she was older she used her savings to buy a pub and start a business, which was successful. She then hired younger girls to do sexual stunts for customers, like doing handstands and having people drop coins and wine into the girls pussy.
This is far from some abnormal trajectory. Again, where did all those whores back then go? There were millions of whores in the 1800s, it was one of the great social ills of the time. Did they all hit a critical mass of STD overload and then turn into lovecraftian horror creatures that dwelled in the victorian sewers and then they send dr. who down there to fucking kill them? Does too much dick trigger divine kill switch where the girl just dies and her body decomposes within 10s and disappears without a trace? - No, it is ludicrous to propose that the majority of these girls all died and vanished somehow. They all went on to live normal, inconspicuous lives and nobody cared.
The book is City of Eros: New York City, Prostitution, and the Commercialization of Sex, 1790-1920 by Timothy Gilfoyle. You can find it on LibGen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Gilfoyle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_Genesis Chapter 3: "The Whorearchy", the best JBpill chapter...
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These girls would basically finance party lifestyle by being whores and then just live normal life later. The idea that prostitution is inherently destructive to women is on same level as the belief that rape must have immediate lifelong hyper-destructive consequences for the victim, which leads to comical level distortion where the average person now thinks rape is literally worse than having mexican cartel perforate your eyeballs with a screwdriver.
Another two examples, I really want to drive this nail into any man's skull who is reading this, so it sticks and itches, that they may not forget this: Women socially, mentally, sexually and financially dominate men. You are a man. You are a slave. Never cope that you control women or that men somehow ever controlled women. They did not, not even in islam, or india. There was never a patriarchy. Human society is matriarchial, it rotates around women.
TLDR - women are in SUPPLY position of validation, sex etc and men are in DEMAND (customer) position. Who knows more about human nature, customer or supplier who studies customers to sell them and has to deal with retarded customer daily? Good, now that we have established that women must inherently know more about human nature and men than men know about women and themselves, we can move on to the video content.
In the video, the women call out fake right wing christian larpers and these podcats where women get "roasted" for being promiscous, like fresh and fit, whatever podcast and others. The women openly state that they know these are cope-shows and that the men that watch them later subscribe to their OF. Unlike the coping men watching these podcasts, the women know this because their OF subscriber counts baloon after each apperance on these shows, which is something men can not know, becaues men do not have access to "supplier" side of things. If you go into supermarket, do you know how much any of these products are really worth, how many units are sold in this location per week?
Women know what they can get away with, they know the price men are willing to pay. They know every male cope, they have seen the same stupid dozen tricks that men try to pull on them 1000s of times. You can not win as a man, it is monopoly, you can not beat the bank you retard. Men know that they can not fail and that men give them whatever they want if they just ask, more on this historical precedent later.
The fat tiddied woman in the video that comes in later, yeah, shes a lawyer. Before any of your retard scream muh liberal leftism socialism world economic forum DEI - you are dumb and I can hear your pea brain roll around the inside of your skull through my screen. These programs, all of these hiring programs were pushed and primarily benefit women. They are not hiring black guys, black men are the least employed group. Gender bias against men and in favor of women is VASTLY stronger than racial biases. All gender of all races disproportionally prefer women over men. These programs that shell out degrees to women are enabled by women and men alike. It has nothing to do with agendas, its inherent female in-group bias + male simping that enables all of this shit.
We know this because it is not a "muh modern world is magically different from all previous history of last 100000 years" and "muh human nature did a complete 180° turn in the last 50 years bruh" level retardation statements - we know that it is not some modern agenda, jews or whatever because women in the past displayed exactly the same behavior and achieved their goals in the same way. Look up the lex oppia in ancient rome, a law that was removed from legal code because the women of rome revolted and forced the senate to cuck to them.
In the 1800s women had this to say about their powerlevel, long read but maximally important to understand human nature and yourself:
One early believer in the idea was anti suffragist Catharine Beecher, who from the 1840s worked to open the teaching profession to women. Although she never joined an anti suffrage organization, Catharine Beecher was a dedicated anti, but at the same time she was also an indomitable campaigner for women’s education and economic equality.
Her method of changing society was “first convincing intelligent and benevolent women that what I aimed at was right and desirable, and then securing their influence with their fathers, brothers, and husbands, and always with success” (italics added). Her fifty years of campaigning convinced her that all reasonable men “are not only willing but anxious to provide for the good of our sex. They will gladly bestow all that is just, reasonable, and kind, whenever we unite in asking” (italics added).39 The idea of women uniting for the common good, rather than dividing along party lines as men did, was a major theme of the women antis. ...
Although lobbying by 1,700,000 organized clubwomen resulted in the passage of many new laws, there is a widespread misconception that women were powerless to influence lawmakers before they could vote. Anti-suffrage women never accepted this view, and as proof, they repeatedly argued that laws favoring women, such as those prohibiting night work and long hours for women factory workers, were better in non-suffrage states than in suffrage states. From 1908 to 1910, fifty-four laws to protect women workers were enacted in non-suffrage states, versus only one such law in suffrage states, according to Minnie Bronson
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Even without voting, clubwomen around 1900 actively supported political candidates, lobbied for better laws, circulated petitions, and conducted educational campaigns on dozens of issues, but without connections to any political party. People understood the distinction between women having influence over lawmakers, as clubwomen did, and entering the male world of partisan politics, as suffragists advocated. It is an important point, and not one of the fifteen college textbooks makes this distinction.
video View: https://youtu.be/WQpC_5Ha7Ng PDF from video is attached here: https://mega.nz/file/8vdG0JqK#0_5wwaI_fB_wgON5h3wwM8utFrk-YwENUoWs7YtlJA4 TLDR - women know their privileges and power. Voting rights for women seemed to take that power from them, and make them equal to men...
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So even without le magical rights, which somehow supersede human nature in retards worldview and do not submit to it, women easily passed legislation by simply appealing to omega simp-drive in men, who then bent the knew YES MY QUEENS ANYTHING FOR YOU MY KWEENS, LET ME LICK YOUR TOES MY QUEENS and just passed the laws on behalf of women. Women do not need rights if men will just simp and enact pro-female legislation on their behalf, please think about this you swine, you imbeciles that still believe women were powerless in the past. Just think, where did rights come from jackass? willie wonkers chocolate factory? human nature comes FIRST and rights are bent and bludgeoned into shape serve it, hence women get lighter sentences and so on.
I could write about this for ages, but the point is - women are happier than men, women have always lived easier lives than men, women are not lonely, promiscuity does not ruin womens ability to enjoy life and settle, women of any age can easily make friends, get sex and relationships. Stop coping and projecting your own male fears of misery, social isolation and financial destitution onto women that suffer not the yoke you were born under.
great thread, I love that you mentioned how women aborted 1/3 of gen Z, insane numbers. Since Roe v. Wade in the 70s, women have aborted billions of people. A large chunk of the world population is simply missing. And yet, even advanced level MRA's like the guy who wrote the high quality "the empathy gap" book on how society is gynocentric, even he will not admit that abortion is murder.
If men admitted to themselves that women deleted billions of humans from existence like its nothing and that this is in fact worthy of being called a crime, then their entire worldivew would topple. It would men women are borderline psycho towards babies, it would mean women disproportionally out-shine men when it comes to violence, murder, callousness, narcissism - the entire image of "woman good, man bad" would staunchly invert into "man victim, woman literally Satan."
The inherent simp-drive in men is so strong that they can smell this roast burning in the oven when tackling abortion and infancy murder stats, but still wont comitt to saying the obvious, which is that women are historically the most violent group, the most murderous group, that women have inherent in-group bias, despise men and opleny undermine and attack them. Women are the class enemy of men. If we count abortion as murder then women have killed more people in the last 50 years than all human wars of all previous 6000 years of recorded history combined. Let that sink in. Women have committed a genocide that would have on paper 250x the victim count of the holocaust, if we accept the six million figure for that.
And worse: Men enabled them to do this. Male doctors, men just watched and even celebrated it. And right wingers, MRA's and all these secret-crypto simps just twiddled their thumbs and didnt even call them out. Because men do not care about children either. It is always about the woman. The woman comes first, then the children, that's why guys get into relationships. In research, men desire relationships and marriage more than women, but this does not indicate they want to have kids. They want female validation. The woman decides whether the couple has kids or not, the man is just a servant. Men gave women contraception, the pill and abortion to please them, hoping this would garner them favors with the opposite sex. It doesn't. They inherently hate you, you fucking dumb shit (writing in case some of these idiots read this).
I have stated it before and will again: The drive to worship women is so intense in both genders that they will never blame women. Never. Watch for these copes when women's evil is addressed:
1. using the word "modern" to conotate that this was different in the past, and its only "modern" women that are like this, or "modern society"
2. instead of saying "women did XYZ" you see them switch from gendered terms to "society," "people did," "the culture"
3. blaming some group of other men for "ruining" women, as in the jews, blacks, "the elites" etc as if women just few years ago were these divine spirits that would just suck men's dick and be inherently friendly and have personality of a fucking golden retriever, when we have 6000 years of men making exactly the same complaints about women, which is a sign that
a) human nature hasnt changed ever
b) ergo, gender relations havent changed
c) men even back then were powerless and resorted to impotent groveling and coping just like now - "omg women are gonna end up lonely and men will walk away bla bla" - cope cope and cope again, your balls should be dipped in magma for such foul and wretched coping. Admit to yourself you worship women, they are your entire reason to exist, work, they are your identity, your galatic nexus, you are like billions of particles of star dust, each dust mote representing a drifting male, slowly orbiting this center of female gravity. Stop the cope, return to earth, stand on your own two feet, grab your fucking dick for once and say no to it for once you rat.
Another hilarious cope is that normies think that being a pornstar or being promiscous somehow ruins a girls life. Its insane. In reality they still have exactly same number of simps as before, they can still get married, settle and nobody socially shames them at all. Here is a video of a girl being interviewed after working as a pornstar for half a year. She says she expected social backlash but received the opposite, people even defend her:
The channel soft white underbelly has recently released two videos of women talking about having extremely promiscuous lifestyles and enjoying it. 90% of the comments on both videos claim that these women just have heavy trauma, were abused as children, that their life must take some terrible turn in future bla bla - notice, normies literally can not fathom that a woman might no be this pure, sexless angel.
If a woman does anything considered icky, she must have been abused, tortured, raped, usually by a man. Some mans corrupting influence made her that way, because everyone just knows, normal women are not into sex and other such nasty things that only dirty disgusting "porn addicted" men are into.
It does not even occur to them that these may simply just be normal women and they like sex and they love getting paid 1000s upon 1000s for a few minutes of sexual intercourse, no shit. Here are the videos:
This idea that prostitutes and promiscuous women all are somehow damaged because all women are born in perfect pristine state until men corrupt them with the evil penis, it goes back centuries. Even in the 1800s they had these moral panics and kept claiming prostitutes would all end in gutter and die alone in some hovel, riddled with STDs. This has never been the case. Prostitutes are not forced into it by poverty, they earn more than minimum wage workers, they dont have to pay taxes if they get paid in cash and gifts, its a low intensity, low labor job - in short, being a prostitute is a privilige for all intends and purposes, considering the alternatives.
I argue that many prostitutes have boyfriends, maybe even families and that this is way more common than we think. What happens to all the young prostitutes out there right now once they get older? Are we actually supposed to believe that millions upon millions of young prostitutes just vanish POOF into a cloud of fairy dust once they hit a certain age, or that they all go to the elephant graveyard, some mystical place whereto worn out whores pilgrimage too once their time has come?
Here is the truth - they settle and have normal lives. Perfectly normal. Its the same as with personality vs looks - promiscuity is not visible, you cant see a girls past. One time I saw a documentary interview with a whore in amsterdam, she was from the carribean and said she is saving up and buying land in the carribean and already owns a plantation. This bitch was fucking white dudes while owning fucking land in her home country. Where do you think this woman will go when shes done being a whore? Davey Jones locker? She will go home and settle on her fucking plantation.
The same applies to drugs. Most normies think once you touch drugs you are fucked for life and become toothless hobo on corner screaming at people. The facts are different. Most drug users are normies, teachers, truck drivers, doctors, police officers - normal people. You cant spot them, there are no signs. Most drug users do not become addicted and quit on their own before age 40, like 90%. The people normies refer to are extreme outliers that had shit lives to begin with, and due to systemic life failure on every level end up in rehab clinics and prison over and over.
Drugs are a co-incidental to the 1000 other issues plagueing them but normies reduce everything to one factor, while ignoring that they, half their friend group and their own fucking parents all played with drugs at one point or another and live perfectly normal lives. In the same vein, most prostitutes, escorts, OF girls live perfectly normal lives, have no tatoos, piercings, nose rings and will die in 50 years surrounded by whatever level of family they chose to have without anyone ever knowing they did this shit.
The normie however can not conceptualize this, so he imagines that these women end up alone on crack in a house full of trashbags and 20 dead cat corpses and shit and piss if you get me. If they admited to themselves that any woman could be like the women in those videos, then they would have to look at their wifes, gfs, mothers, sisters very differently, it undermines their entire concept of women as a whole. So they must special pleading, engage in special pleading for these women, by claiming they are just outliers and only act like that because they were abused by men.
On kiwifarms this prettyboy chad once posted his face, said incels are right BP is true and then laid out how many girls he fucked and is planning to fuck. The replies? Shit like "these were not real women, its easy to fuck sluts, real women would never lower themselves to something like this" - notice, exactly the same special pleading as in the other cases. They cant imagine women being promiscuous and enjoying it because it's like flinging poop on an altar, on a religious object. Their worship of women is that deep and zealous.
Naturally, they apply the inverse retard logic to men. Good men cant exist, all men are by default suspect, incomplete humans, hyper-sexual cretins ready to explode into sexually frustrated rage and this is in their view the "natural state" and if a man does not act like this, he is defect, gay, dangerous. However, if the man openly expresses sexual frustration he is called incel, looser, creepy. Damned if you damned if you dont.
Another few things about this whole pattern: Men claiming these women will end up unhappy, deranged and alone in old age is male projection. Men face actual isolation constantly because men, unlike women, have no inherent in-group. Men are always in an unstable competitive outgroup, where they compete with other men to get access to the female in-group. For men, social isolation is a very real threat. Unlike women, men can get get socially ostracized, which women can not because of women worship in society.
These women being alone and not marrying and having kids - it threatens men. Because it means these women are happy without them, which then implies that the man is gonna be isolated from society, because women dont need him. This is the origin of that whole shit like "the wall" cope and the cat lady cope. Women prefer the company of other women to company of men and this triggers existential dread in men, because women are an existential object to men, that is how deep the worship goes. Women fulfill a similar function to god, which man falls short of. But women see themselves as goddesses by default who can do no wrong.
Here is another reddit thread where someone asked, you know, what happens to all the whores after they retire? Do they just atomize, turn into a fine spray and vanish into the south wind?
I want to stress this - only men see promiscuous women as bad and destined to fail, because promiscuous women trigger male existential insecurity because these women arent fucking them, so they must be fucking other guys = I am outside the game, looking in, like a cuck, and I will die alone. Women do not see promiscuity as bad at all because they benefit from it with zero downsides.
In the 1700s there was an infamous british whore called Priss Fotheringham. She was known all over england and when she was older she used her savings to buy a pub and start a business, which was successful. She then hired younger girls to do sexual stunts for customers, like doing handstands and having people drop coins and wine into the girls pussy.
This is far from some abnormal trajectory. Again, where did all those whores back then go? There were millions of whores in the 1800s, it was one of the great social ills of the time. Did they all hit a critical mass of STD overload and then turn into lovecraftian horror creatures that dwelled in the victorian sewers and then they send dr. who down there to fucking kill them? Does too much dick trigger divine kill switch where the girl just dies and her body decomposes within 10s and disappears without a trace? - No, it is ludicrous to propose that the majority of these girls all died and vanished somehow. They all went on to live normal, inconspicuous lives and nobody cared.
The book is City of Eros: New York City, Prostitution, and the Commercialization of Sex, 1790-1920 by Timothy Gilfoyle. You can find it on LibGen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Gilfoyle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_Genesis Chapter 3: "The Whorearchy", the best JBpill chapter...
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These girls would basically finance party lifestyle by being whores and then just live normal life later. The idea that prostitution is inherently destructive to women is on same level as the belief that rape must have immediate lifelong hyper-destructive consequences for the victim, which leads to comical level distortion where the average person now thinks rape is literally worse than having mexican cartel perforate your eyeballs with a screwdriver.
Another two examples, I really want to drive this nail into any man's skull who is reading this, so it sticks and itches, that they may not forget this: Women socially, mentally, sexually and financially dominate men. You are a man. You are a slave. Never cope that you control women or that men somehow ever controlled women. They did not, not even in islam, or india. There was never a patriarchy. Human society is matriarchial, it rotates around women.
TLDR - women are in SUPPLY position of validation, sex etc and men are in DEMAND (customer) position. Who knows more about human nature, customer or supplier who studies customers to sell them and has to deal with retarded customer daily? Good, now that we have established that women must inherently know more about human nature and men than men know about women and themselves, we can move on to the video content.
In the video, the women call out fake right wing christian larpers and these podcats where women get "roasted" for being promiscous, like fresh and fit, whatever podcast and others. The women openly state that they know these are cope-shows and that the men that watch them later subscribe to their OF. Unlike the coping men watching these podcasts, the women know this because their OF subscriber counts baloon after each apperance on these shows, which is something men can not know, becaues men do not have access to "supplier" side of things. If you go into supermarket, do you know how much any of these products are really worth, how many units are sold in this location per week?
Women know what they can get away with, they know the price men are willing to pay. They know every male cope, they have seen the same stupid dozen tricks that men try to pull on them 1000s of times. You can not win as a man, it is monopoly, you can not beat the bank you retard. Men know that they can not fail and that men give them whatever they want if they just ask, more on this historical precedent later.
The fat tiddied woman in the video that comes in later, yeah, shes a lawyer. Before any of your retard scream muh liberal leftism socialism world economic forum DEI - you are dumb and I can hear your pea brain roll around the inside of your skull through my screen. These programs, all of these hiring programs were pushed and primarily benefit women. They are not hiring black guys, black men are the least employed group. Gender bias against men and in favor of women is VASTLY stronger than racial biases. All gender of all races disproportionally prefer women over men. These programs that shell out degrees to women are enabled by women and men alike. It has nothing to do with agendas, its inherent female in-group bias + male simping that enables all of this shit.
We know this because it is not a "muh modern world is magically different from all previous history of last 100000 years" and "muh human nature did a complete 180° turn in the last 50 years bruh" level retardation statements - we know that it is not some modern agenda, jews or whatever because women in the past displayed exactly the same behavior and achieved their goals in the same way. Look up the lex oppia in ancient rome, a law that was removed from legal code because the women of rome revolted and forced the senate to cuck to them.
In the 1800s women had this to say about their powerlevel, long read but maximally important to understand human nature and yourself:
video View: https://youtu.be/WQpC_5Ha7Ng PDF from video is attached here: https://mega.nz/file/8vdG0JqK#0_5wwaI_fB_wgON5h3wwM8utFrk-YwENUoWs7YtlJA4 TLDR - women know their privileges and power. Voting rights for women seemed to take that power from them, and make them equal to men...
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So even without le magical rights, which somehow supersede human nature in retards worldview and do not submit to it, women easily passed legislation by simply appealing to omega simp-drive in men, who then bent the knew YES MY QUEENS ANYTHING FOR YOU MY KWEENS, LET ME LICK YOUR TOES MY QUEENS and just passed the laws on behalf of women. Women do not need rights if men will just simp and enact pro-female legislation on their behalf, please think about this you swine, you imbeciles that still believe women were powerless in the past. Just think, where did rights come from jackass? willie wonkers chocolate factory? human nature comes FIRST and rights are bent and bludgeoned into shape serve it, hence women get lighter sentences and so on.
I could write about this for ages, but the point is - women are happier than men, women have always lived easier lives than men, women are not lonely, promiscuity does not ruin womens ability to enjoy life and settle, women of any age can easily make friends, get sex and relationships. Stop coping and projecting your own male fears of misery, social isolation and financial destitution onto women that suffer not the yoke you were born under.
I have another thing to add - not even the church gives two fucks about abortion. Nowadays everyone thinks that after roe v. wade, churches in the US went crazy about this and it sparked the ongoing abortion drama that is still running amok today. I have seen counter evidence to this narrative. Allegedly, after roe v. wade was passed, most churches didnt give a single fuck. The reason is simple: They did not see it affecting their congregations. Christians dont get abortions anyway, so why give a fuck if some two shilling hooker gets an abortion in Tijuana? So when did this change? Apparently not until a decade later. There was a motion that threatened the tax exemption status of churches and this somehow led to the abortion issue being used as a weapon in order to protect church monopoly on remaining tax free.
They were also apparently more concerned with keeping blacks out than abortion kek, if this article is true:
The history of that movement, however, is more complicated. White evangelicals in the 1970s did not mobilize against Roe v. Wade, which they considered a Catholic issue. They organized instead to defend racial segregation in evangelical institutions, including Bob Jones University.
According to Paul Weyrich, a conservative activist and architect of the Religious Right, the movement started in the 1970s in response to attempts on the part of the Internal Revenue Service to rescind the tax-exempt status of whites-only segregation academies (many of them church sponsored) and Bob Jones University because of its segregationist policies.
Among those affected was Jerry Falwell, who referred to the civil rights movement as “civil wrongs” and who had opened his own segregation academy in 1967. The IRS actions against racially segregated institutions, not abortion, is what mobilized evangelical activists in the 1970s, and they directed their ire against a fellow evangelical, Jimmy Carter, in the run-up to the 1980 presidential election.
So, if this is true then it again would support what I wrote in the other reply - humans do not care about abortion, women are over children. You can also see that online, with videos where doctors had to choose between letting pregnant mother die or saving the baby - virtually every single reply says, kill the baby, let the mother live. There was another case where this woman went into coma while pregnant and the doctors decided to let her come to term before unplugging her. People were livid that they saved the baby and said the doctors had comitted sacrilege against the woman. The baby btw afaik is healthy and alive.
I cant be assed to look up other videos on this case, but comments are all in same vein as this one. They would rather have the mother and child die than have the mother be dead and the child alive. People worship women to insane degree. 50% of society is women, women have inherent in-group bias that is massive. Now include simps who worship women to point of death. At end of day the number of men who dont worship women is miniscule. This is one of the most important BP findings - society IS women, there is no escape, to succeed you must worship women. And "success" itself is defined by the group-collective and enforced by the system through punishment and reward backed by power. That's it.
I have another thing to add - not even the church gives two fucks about abortion. Nowadays everyone thinks that after roe v. wade, churches in the US went crazy about this and it sparked the ongoing abortion drama that is still running amok today. I have seen counter evidence to this narrative. Allegedly, after roe v. wade was passed, most churches didnt give a single fuck. The reason is simple: They did not see it affecting their congregations. Christians dont get abortions anyway, so why give a fuck if some two shilling hooker gets an abortion in Tijuana? So when did this change? Apparently not until a decade later. There was a motion that threatened the tax exemption status of churches and this somehow led to the abortion issue being used as a weapon in order to protect church monopoly on remaining tax free.
They were also apparently more concerned with keeping blacks out than abortion kek, if this article is true:
So, if this is true then it again would support what I wrote in the other reply - humans do not care about abortion, women are over children. You can also see that online, with videos where doctors had to choose between letting pregnant mother die or saving the baby - virtually every single reply says, kill the baby, let the mother live. There was another case where this woman went into coma while pregnant and the doctors decided to let her come to term before unplugging her. People were livid that they saved the baby and said the doctors had comitted sacrilege against the woman. The baby btw afaik is healthy and alive.
I cant be assed to look up other videos on this case, but comments are all in same vein as this one. They would rather have the mother and child die than have the mother be dead and the child alive. People worship women to insane degree. 50% of society is women, women have inherent in-group bias that is massive. Now include simps who worship women to point of death. At end of day the number of men who dont worship women is miniscule. This is one of the most important BP findings - society IS women, there is no escape, to succeed you must worship women. And "success" itself is defined by the group-collective and enforced by the system through punishment and reward backed by power. That's it.
"The Handmaid's Tale in action" . I am among a few non-feminists who actually read that book. I read it randomly several years ago, having no idea about its reputation and what it was about. I don't really know how to describe it. It was just some kind of weird dystopian female gooner fantasy book the way I interpreted it, I was shocked to find out that it had anything to do with feminism after I looked it up afterwards. It was all written from a wonky first person perspective, and most of it was just in the female protagonist's mind, it even went back and forth between dreams occasionally. Looking back on it it was a pretty scary glimpse into the female mind, because it was just as empty, shallow and perpetually unsatisfied as it appears from the outside.
But yeah, how mothers are valued more than their children is very brutal. It is illogical too really, since without children our species will cease to exist. Great example of just how hardwired simping for women is in everyone.
As for the Church specifically, it's even more of a joke in Europe than it is in the US, though I guess that goes without saying. I remember there being a study in Sweden where they asked the priests if they believed in God and around half admitted that they don't. Religion is a complete joke in Sweden.
Also, sorry for not replying to this comment a week or so ago:
This sentence is so true I just listened to Ibn Fadlan's journey to The Saqlaba for preaching Islam, he met the vikings there. When he saw them from a distance he was amazed, they were true chads. They had tall strong bodies, they were white and blond. Ibn Fadlan said he has never seen guys...
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I have some things to add onto your reply there, and I will reply eventually.
"The Handmaid's Tale in action" . I am among a few non-feminists who actually read that book. I read it randomly several years ago, having no idea about its reputation and what it was about. I don't really know how to describe it. It was just some kind of weird dystopian female gooner fantasy book the way I interpreted it, I was shocked to find out that it had anything to do with feminism after I looked it up afterwards. It was all written from a wonky first person perspective, and most of it was just in the female protagonist's mind, it even went back and forth between dreams occasionally. Looking back on it it was a pretty scary glimpse into the female mind, because it was just as empty, shallow and perpetually unsatisfied as it appears from the outside.
But yeah, how mothers are valued more than their children is very brutal. It is illogical too really, since without children our species will cease to exist. Great example of just how hardwired simping for women is in everyone.
As for the Church specifically, it's even more of a joke in Europe than it is in the US, though I guess that goes without saying. I remember there being a study in Sweden where they asked the priests if they believed in God and around half admitted that they don't. Religion is a complete joke in Sweden.
Also, sorry for not replying to this comment a week or so ago:
This sentence is so true I just listened to Ibn Fadlan's journey to The Saqlaba for preaching Islam, he met the vikings there. When he saw them from a distance he was amazed, they were true chads. They had tall strong bodies, they were white and blond. Ibn Fadlan said he has never seen guys...
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I have some things to add onto your reply there, and I will reply eventually.
thats funny that you actually read the book because I also read few of these foid books like 50 shades of grey and shit, yeah, tells you alot of about women that this shit resonates with them. Another feature about stories made by and for women is the constant self-inserting. They cant help it. Also constant relationship dynamics with dark triad elements, there is often also a cuck element where some lower status men gets cucked by higher status gigachad who ends up fucking the plain normal MC foid - she has to be average becky so the women reading can self insert their fantasy of divine giga chad striking their pussy down with his 25 inch flaming sword of a power dick, because he is just this obsessed with them for no reason, because female narcissism makes them actually believe that they deserve that.
great thread, I love that you mentioned how women aborted 1/3 of gen Z, insane numbers. Since Roe v. Wade in the 70s, women have aborted billions of people. A large chunk of the world population is simply missing. And yet, even advanced level MRA's like the guy who wrote the high quality "the empathy gap" book on how society is gynocentric, even he will not admit that abortion is murder.
If men admitted to themselves that women deleted billions of humans from existence like its nothing and that this is in fact worthy of being called a crime, then their entire worldivew would topple. It would mean women are borderline psycho towards babies, it would mean women disproportionally out-shine men when it comes to violence, murder, callousness, narcissism - the entire image of "woman good, man bad" would staunchly invert into "man victim, woman literally Satan."
The inherent simp-drive in men is so strong that they can smell this roast burning in the oven when tackling abortion and infancy murder stats, but still wont commit to saying the obvious, which is that women are historically the most violent group, the most murderous group, that women have inherent in-group bias, despise men and openly undermine and attack them. Women are the class enemy of men.
If we count abortion as murder then women have killed more people in the last 50 years than all human wars of all previous 6000 years of recorded history combined. Let that sink in. Women have committed a genocide that would have on paper 250x the victim count of the holocaust, if we accept the six million figure for that.
Women love to say men are violent, "I'd choose the bear", men are abusive in relationships, etc. I'd like to cite The Milgram Experiment, and what you wrote in one of your posts,
An actor pretends to be electrocuted by screaming while participants turn a dial to control how much shock he receives. Most people turn the dial a little bit, hear him scream and stop. The research assistant standing next to them then says: “The experiment requires that you continue.” Over 70% of the people involved promptly turn the shock up to a lethal dose. In the ABC Channel’s recreation of the experiment, it turned out that women were more likely than men to electrocute a man to death. Shocker, forgive my pun, but in the light of what I’ve laid out so far, is this surprising in the least?
Another hilarious cope is that normies think that being a pornstar or being promiscous somehow ruins a girls life. Its insane. In reality they still have exactly same number of simps as before, they can still get married, settle and nobody socially shames them at all. Here is a video of a girl being interviewed after working as a pornstar for half a year. She says she expected social backlash but received the opposite, people even defend her:
The biggest takeaway is these whores are making 7-8 figures. Not all, but even the average woman on the street could sell her nudes and at least pay off her rent.
Another few things about this whole pattern: Men claiming these women will end up unhappy, deranged and alone in old age is male projection. Men face actual isolation constantly because men, unlike women, have no inherent in-group. Men are always in an unstable competitive outgroup, where they compete with other men to get access to the female in-group. For men, social isolation is a very real threat. Unlike women, men can get socially ostracized, which women can not because of women worship in society.
Not sure if you are familiar with the "hiplet" trend going around xitter and soycial media platforms. But it's men trying to make women feel insecure about having hip dips. But it's exactly as you said. Men projecting their insecurities (half the replies of these posts will have men saying, "Women can want 6ft men! We want a woman with wide hips!"). Men are trying to create something out of thin air because in reality, most men don't give a fuck about hip dips, and womens SMV won't even take a tiny hit from this trend. meanwhile, being sub 6ft in 2026 is detrimental to your dating life.
We all know that married men get treated better by women. It is easier to get jobs when you have a girlfriend or wife. People stop seeing you as a creep if you are a "kept" man. Notice these things, etch them into the inside of your skull. The average man is a spiritual tranny, he has no identity apart from women, so he is basically an extension of women already, he sees himself as a failed woman that needs to complete herself to gain "female citizenship" in a sense, he wants to become a naturalized citizen of "united states of women," he wants that green card. Society, right wingers, -> women are society - they created the foundation for MtF trannies by telling men that they can be "half-men" aka "not real men" for falling short of female expecations. If you can be a genderless nothing because you fail to please women, then you are half-way to being a tranny.
Being an incel is liberating, even though it's a horrible fate for a man who's imperative desire is to reproduce. Seeing the shit from an outside perspective at what happens in this clown world, even in my personal life. I'm so glad I'm not stuck in one of these cuck marriages, forced to cater to every female whim.
I know I mentioned how womens drive in life is for three things (Money, Power, Chad). But for men it's no different. They LIVE for female validation. It's pretty apparent, men are being rejected constantly, many failed cold approaches, and instead of dropping out of this fucked dating market, they chase every crumb of attention from women they can get.
When the man finally gets what he wants, he is at first overjoyed. Finally he has gotten her, finally he can live under female dominion! WEEEE! But stark his is disilusionment when he realizes that he was the prey all along and women were watching his stupid efforts from a far, laughing.
I want to stress this - only men see promiscuous women as bad and destined to fail, because promiscuous women trigger male existential insecurity because these women arent fucking them, so they must be fucking other guys = I am outside the game, looking in, like a cuck, and I will die alone. Women do not see promiscuity as bad at all because they benefit from it with zero downsides.
So, if this is true then it again would support what I wrote in the other reply - humans do not care about abortion, women are over children. You can also see that online, with videos where doctors had to choose between letting pregnant mother die or saving the baby - virtually every single reply says, kill the baby, let the mother live. There was another case where this woman went into coma while pregnant and the doctors decided to let her come to term before unplugging her. People were livid that they saved the baby and said the doctors had comitted sacrilege against the woman. The baby btw afaik is healthy and alive.
this is a brutal truth. I do believe this is only specific to younger children (< 3, most people don't view younger children as human because they aren't fully conscious). "Oh you can always make another kid with your wife broooo!"
This is the same thing with men who chase women, and go into the relationship wanting female attention and sex. It's obviously for women, but after a while men will bring up wanting children. It's pretty apparent in late marriages when men are fed up with their wives, and only keep the relationship together for their kids. Or if they do get divorceraped, try desperately to claim custody of the children from their wives. When their children start to gain some type of identity, I feel that's when man begin to value their children. correct me if I'm wrong
thats funny that you actually read the book because I also read few of these foid books like 50 shades of grey and shit, yeah, tells you alot of about women that this shit resonates with them. Another feature about stories made by and for women is the constant self-inserting. They cant help it. Also constant relationship dynamics with dark triad elements, there is often also a cuck element where some lower status men gets cucked by higher status gigachad who ends up fucking the plain normal MC foid - she has to be average becky so the women reading can self insert their fantasy of divine giga chad striking their pussy down with his 25 inch flaming sword of a power dick, because he is just this obsessed with them for no reason, because female narcissism makes them actually believe that they deserve that.
Female "Romance novels" (if you can even call it that) are basically women falling in love with dark triad demi-humans. And the novels have hardly any romantic elements. It's fully smut. It's pathetically bad compared to manga which is catered for men, and the male MC takes care of his girlfriend/girlfriends.
The biggest takeaway is these whores are making 7-8 figures. Not all, but even the average woman on the street could sell her nudes and at least pay off her rent.
another huge male cope is when they say shit like "only fans girls on averge only make 150 dollars a month" nigga the cope. Imagine photos of your stinky male asshole were worth 150 dollar a month to retards. That is a huge amount of money for the work required to get it. Basically work few minutes per week to take 50 pics, then upload it to OF and done. And I am betting my ass most of these women dont even put effort into running their OF or privately talking and baiting men, women are lazy as fuck with shit like this.
Another thing is that women are leeching off men by virtue of existing already - welfare state and other such programs disproportionately favor women over men, even when men are statistically equally affected. For example there is data showing men and women suffer equal amounts of domestic abuse, yet 80% of the money goes to women. So the meager 150 dollars a month is actually like tip of an iceberg of benefits women receive by simply existing, which amounts to billions upon billions spent on them for merely being women. "In 2024, OnlyFans transferred approximately $5.8 billion to its creators." What did women offer to deserve this? nothing. Just pictures of their body. There is no male equivalent to this, there is nothing a man can do to trigger the same level of wealth transfer to himself from the opposite sex.
Not sure if you are familiar with the "hiplet" trend going around xitter and soycial media platforms. But it's men trying to make women feel insecure about having hip dips. But it's exactly as you said. Men projecting their insecurities (half the replies of these posts will have men saying, "Women can want 6ft men! We want a woman with wide hips!"). Men are trying to create something out of thin air because in reality, most men don't give a fuck about hip dips, and womens SMV won't even take a tiny hit from this trend. meanwhile, being sub 6ft in 2026 is detrimental to your dating life.
I saw a little bit of it yesterday, some video title and thumbnail, but its omega cope. Women take shit like that, say thank you, and then capitalize on male suffering even more. First, they will claim victim status and use it as evidence for women being good and men evil. Second, they will turn it into a fetish product and men will pay for pictures of women with hip dips. Net result, as always: Total female victory, total male destruction.
The trad wife shit was never oppression, fuck it basically didnt even exist, for most of history women worked as much as men out of necessity for survival. Even in islam sharia law it says women can earn their own money and keep it and are under no obligation to share their money with anyone, not even family. I thought middle east was horrific patriarchal oppression lands for women? how is this possible? The trad wife vs whore girl shit is literally just a debate about which faction has monopoly on worshiping women their way. From the male side, it's a debate between men about who idolizes women correctly, and on the female side it is just a debate about who has the most effective way of exploiting men. Neither side attacks women, they are all in agreement, yes, men must submit, women must dominate.
this is a brutal truth. I do believe this is only specific to younger children (< 3, most people don't view younger children as human because they aren't fully conscious). "Oh you can always make another kid with your wife broooo!"
I mentioned this in some thread I think - this is actually the human position for most of history in most cultures. Infants and children up to age of 5-7 were not seen as human and often killed through exposure to elements. You would abandon the child in forest or somewhere else and just leave it to die. This is the origin of the Hansel and Gretel fairy tale, it is based on reality. There is a super long documented history of humans in all cultures worldwide engaging in exactly this behavior. The romans and greeks did not believe children had a soul up to age five or so and were surprised when the egyptians valued every single life and saved children the romans had thrown on literal dung piles.
In Egyptian households, at all social levels, children of both sexes were valued and there is no evidence of infanticide.[17] The religion of the ancient Egyptians forbade infanticide and during the Greco-Roman period they rescued abandoned babies from manure heaps, a common method of infanticide by Greeks or Romans, and were allowed to either adopt them as foundling or raise them as slaves, often giving them names such as "copro -" to memorialize their rescue.[18]Strabo considered it a peculiarity of the Egyptians that every child must be reared.[19]Diodorus indicates infanticide was a punishable offence.[20]
This behavior of abandoning or killing already born children was common until very recently. In the 1800s you had baby farms, where parents could abandon the child with the understanding that it would be "taken care of" aka killed through exposure and added to the high infant mortality statistics quietly. I am not stupid enough to believe that human nature magically did a 180° degree turn in the last century. People may not outright kill their kids now, but they instead simply dump them in public schools, nurseries and other places instead of taking care of them. Remember that shit in the 80s on american TV - "its 10pm do you know where you children are?" - the reason was that adults would literally lock the kids outside for like 12h and only then let them back in for dinner. There was no concern for saftey.
Another extremely common think Gex X people remember is being told shit like "if you are thirsty, drink from the garden hose" before mom locked the fucking door behind them. Incredible.
This is the same thing with men who chase women, and go into the relationship wanting female attention and sex. It's obviously for women, but after a while men will bring up wanting children. It's pretty apparent in late marriages when men are fed up with their wives, and only keep the relationship together for their kids. Or if they do get divorceraped, try desperately to claim custody of the children from their wives. When their children start to gain some type of identity, I feel that's when man begin to value their children. correct me if I'm wrong
I agree and think this is high IQ observation. Yeah the kids are used as bargaining chip by the woman against the husband, who basically has to pay a ransom to keep access to them. The woman is holding the kids hostage. A relationship is basically a cult for two, the guy worships the woman, she manipulates him using sex, the children etc.
Also yeah when the kids get older past a certain point, then men start caring more because the child becomes a source of validation and supply that he usually doesnt have. Young babies are highly demanding and unresponsive, they take much and give little outside of looking cute. This slowly shifts later as they gain autonomy and become capable of being manipulated into worshipping the parents, in particular the mom. Virtually all children prefer the mom over dad in surveys + women enforce gender stereotypes more than men.
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In 1800s there was a saying, "the hand that rocks the cradle is the hand that rules the world."
This phase then lasts for 5-10 years until the kids hit puberty. At this stage, the girls abandon dad (insert "there is nothing more cucked than having a daughter pasta") and the sons and fathers become estranged due to male-on-male hostility rising, they become competitors. The dad wouldnt mind if the daughter lived with him forever, but he wants the son out as soon as possible, fending for himself.
thats funny that you actually read the book because I also read few of these foid books like 50 shades of grey and shit, yeah, tells you alot of about women that this shit resonates with them. Another feature about stories made by and for women is the constant self-inserting. They cant help it. Also constant relationship dynamics with dark triad elements, there is often also a cuck element where some lower status men gets cucked by higher status gigachad who ends up fucking the plain normal MC foid - she has to be average becky so the women reading can self insert their fantasy of divine giga chad striking their pussy down with his 25 inch flaming sword of a power dick, because he is just this obsessed with them for no reason, because female narcissism makes them actually believe that they deserve that.
Wow, that meme summarises that book very well . Like I said before, I had no idea what I was getting into when I read it. At the time I was checking out hard Sci-Fi books like Greg Egan and similar, and I saw many people on Soyditt recommending Margaret Atwood as another good Sci-Fi author. That's why I thought The Handmaid's Tale might be worth reading. I didn't think much of the cover or the title going in, I assumed that it would be some kind of metaphor since the supposed genre was "Sci-Fi", but I guess I should have known better given that most foid authors aren't any good.
From what I remember from the book, it was much like that meme. It basically starts off with the Becky protagonist arriving at a farm of sorts, where she's going to be one of three wives for a man high up in the government. She's going to be the wife who bears his children, meanwhile the other two wives take care of everything else in the household.
There's a lot of staring into the wall and completely empty introspection from the Becky protagonist before the impregnation scenes starts, as referenced in the meme. Several attempts are made by the betabuxx government man but the Becky never becomes pregnant. After a while the other two wives decide that the Becky protagonist should cuck her government husband, and instead be impregnated by a Chad workhand at the farm. She does this, and probably becomes pregnant finally.
After that there's dreamy flashbacks to the Becky protagonist and her dyke friend, who grew up just before this three-wife system and so on would be enacted in the US. Her dyke friend rebelled against these changes, and were taken away, her current wherabouts and status unknown to the Becky protagonist.
Once the Becky protagonist gets some respect around the farm, she gets to go out and visit the city occasionally. On one of these trips there are some tourist Chinese girls or similar, who are dressed scantily, and can walk around freely in the city as if it's an amusement park. Those tourist girls take some kind of picture of themselves. The Becky protagonist observes this and is reminded of how much the US has changed, how she used to be like those girls. Or she might not have observed that, I don't remember. Either way I remember this as being a strange but memorable scene in the book.
Eventually some other foid reveals herself to be some kind of resistance member to the Becky protagonist. The Becky joins the resistance, and joins the company of this resistance foid when she takes trips into the city. One one of these trips there is some kind of public execution of male sympathisers to this resistance movement. Oh and yeah, the Chad workhand was probably also a resistance member.
Somehow the Becky protagonist is taken to some brothel hotel that all the government people apparently use. There she finds her old dyke friend, who probably dies shortly after, I don't remember.
After that things go haywire, but nothing is really clear. It is not clear if the Becky protagonist is caught and dies, or if the resistance is shut down or wins, but something like that happens. It is up for interpretation. At the end there's an extra page which says that The Handmaid's Tale itself was told by the Becky protagonist on an audiotape, and that they are analysing it to understand their own history, and this is far in the future of the events of the book. I guess the idea there was to justify the dreamy, odd and unclear things as being missing entries in the audiotapes.
Either way I did think it was interesting enough to keep reading until the end, but if I knew that this is all it was about I would have never finished it, and I would never read it again. What kept me going was my hope that it would have some cool Sci-Fi idea in it or similar, but it never came. Both the story and the writing style was very wonky, slow and uneventful really.
Once I looked up the motivation behind the book being that Margaret Atwood thought that the world in this book is what all men apparently secretely wanted, it made a little more sense. Of course that's anything but true, I think it should be clear to anyone that this is like a typical foid gooner fantasy, really. In reality it's very clearly all about being a foid who has loads of attention on her, both by women and other men and so on. Atwood apparently on the other hand claims that the inspiration behind the book was about making an accurate prediction of the future, according to research about the world she has done.
It's impressive that you've read 50 Shades Of Grey and similar, I don't think I could handle going into a book like this knowingly, even though foid books are excellent blackpill sources. I did however used to observe how women act between themselves online, but I have a difficult time wanting to understand foid minds in depth these days. Trying to comprehend everything about women is damaging to the psyche, because they are so vile.
TL;DR: my summary of The Handmaid's Tale's story. I read it many years ago, so I probably misremembered a few things. If you're interested in learning about it my recalling of it might be useful though. I think very few people have actually read it all the way through, even the feminists who give it a lot of lip service. I don't they would associate it as heavily with feminism if they actually read it as is.
another huge male cope is when they say shit like "only fans girls on averge only make 150 dollars a month" nigga the cope. Imagine photos of your stinky male asshole were worth 150 dollar a month to retards. That is a huge amount of money for the work required to get it. Basically work few minutes per week to take 50 pics, then upload it to OF and done. And I am betting my ass most of these women dont even put effort into running their OF or privately talking and baiting men, women are lazy as fuck with shit like this.
Another thing is that women are leeching off men by virtue of existing already - welfare state and other such programs disproportionately favor women over men, even when men are statistically equally affected. For example there is data showing men and women suffer equal amounts of domestic abuse, yet 80% of the money goes to women. So the meager 150 dollars a month is actually like tip of an iceberg of benefits women receive by simply existing, which amounts to billions upon billions spent on them for merely being women. "In 2024, OnlyFans transferred approximately $5.8 billion to its creators." What did women offer to deserve this? nothing. Just pictures of their body. There is no male equivalent to this, there is nothing a man can do to trigger the same level of wealth transfer to himself from the opposite sex.
I saw a little bit of it yesterday, some video title and thumbnail, but its omega cope. Women take shit like that, say thank you, and then capitalize on male suffering even more. First, they will claim victim status and use it as evidence for women being good and men evil. Second, they will turn it into a fetish product and men will pay for pictures of women with hip dips. Net result, as always: Total female victory, total male destruction.
The trad wife shit was never oppression, fuck it basically didnt even exist, for most of history women worked as much as men out of necessity for survival. Even in islam sharia law it says women can earn their own money and keep it and are under no obligation to share their money with anyone, not even family. I thought middle east was horrific patriarchal oppression lands for women? how is this possible? The trad wife vs whore girl shit is literally just a debate about which faction has monopoly on worshiping women their way. From the male side, it's a debate between men about who idolizes women correctly, and on the female side it is just a debate about who has the most effective way of exploiting men. Neither side attacks women, they are all in agreement, yes, men must submit, women must dominate.
I mentioned this in some thread I think - this is actually the human position for most of history in most cultures. Infants and children up to age of 5-7 were not seen as human and often killed through exposure to elements. You would abandon the child in forest or somewhere else and just leave it to die. This is the origin of the Hansel and Gretel fairy tale, it is based on reality. There is a super long documented history of humans in all cultures worldwide engaging in exactly this behavior. The romans and greeks did not believe children had a soul up to age five or so and were surprised when the egyptians valued every single life and saved children the romans had thrown on literal dung piles.
This behavior of abandoning or killing already born children was common until very recently. In the 1800s you had baby farms, where parents could abandon the child with the understanding that it would be "taken care of" aka killed through exposure and added to the high infant mortality statistics quietly. I am not stupid enough to believe that human nature magically did a 180° degree turn in the last century. People may not outright kill their kids now, but they instead simply dump them in public schools, nurseries and other places instead of taking care of them. Remember that shit in the 80s on american TV - "its 10pm do you know where you children are?" - the reason was that adults would literally lock the kids outside for like 12h and only then let them back in for dinner. There was no concern for saftey.
Another extremely common think Gex X people remember is being told shit like "if you are thirsty, drink from the garden hose" before mom locked the fucking door behind them. Incredible.
I agree and think this is high IQ observation. Yeah the kids are used as bargaining chip by the woman against the husband, who basically has to pay a ransom to keep access to them. The woman is holding the kids hostage. A relationship is basically a cult for two, the guy worships the woman, she manipulates him using sex, the children etc.
Also yeah when the kids get older past a certain point, then men start caring more because the child becomes a source of validation and supply that he usually doesnt have. Young babies are highly demanding and unresponsive, they take much and give little outside of looking cute. This slowly shifts later as they gain autonomy and become capable of being manipulated into worshipping the parents, in particular the mom. Virtually all children prefer the mom over dad in surveys + women enforce gender stereotypes more than men.
The gender stereotype that says “boys don’t cry” is being perpetuated implicitly by mothers more than fathers, a new University of Guelph study has revealed. Prof. Kristel Thomassin found mothers may…
news.uoguelph.ca
In 1800s there was a saying, "the hand that rocks the cradle is the hand that rules the world."
This phase then lasts for 5-10 years until the kids hit puberty. At this stage, the girls abandon dad (insert "there is nothing more cucked than having a daughter pasta") and the sons and fathers become estranged due to male-on-male hostility rising, they become competitors. The dad wouldnt mind if the daughter lived with him forever, but he wants the son out as soon as possible, fending for himself.
Always brutal how poorly children have always been treated, and continue to be treated. I've never seen anyone who didn't have a fucked up childhood, to some degree. It varies of course, but it is always far from ideal. If I could see as little as a single family or a single person who was actually raised right then I could have some hope for the world, but I doubt I'll ever see that.
If you've ever seen the old Nicolas Cage movie "Raising Arizona" I quite like the ending monologue from that movie:
That night I had a dream. I dreamt I was as light as the ether, a floatin' spirit visiting things to come. The shades and shadows of the people in my life wrassled their way into my slumber. I dreamt that Gale and Evelle had decided to return to prison. Probably that's just as well. I don't mean to sound superior, and they're a swell couple guys, but maybe they weren't ready yet to come out into the world.
And then I dreamed on, into the future, to a Christmas morn in the Arizona home where Nathan Junior was openin' a present from a kindly couple who preferred to remain unknown. I saw Glen a few years later, still havin' no luck getting the cops to listen to his wild tales about me and Ed. Maybe he threw in one Polack joke too many. I don't know. And still I dreamed on, further into the future than I'd ever dreamed before, watching Nathan Junior's progress from afar, taking pride in his accomplishments, as if he were our own, wonderin' if he ever thought of us, and hopin' that maybe we'd broadened his horizons a little, even if he couldn't remember just how they got broadened.
But still I hadn't dreamt nothin' about me 'n Ed, until the end. And this was cloudier, 'cause it was years, years away. But I saw an old couple bein' visited by their children, and all their grandchildren too. The old couple wasn't screwed up, and neither were their kids or their grandkids... And I don't know. You tell me. This whole dream, was it wishful thinkin'? Was I just fleeing reality like I know I'm liable to do? But me and Ed, we can be good, too. And it seemed real. It seemed like us, and it seemed like, well, our home. If not Arizona, then a land not too far away, where all parents are strong and wise and capable, and all children are happy and beloved. I don't know. (H.I. opened his eyes) Maybe it was Utah.
How he says "the old couple wasn't screwed up, and neither were their kids or their grandkids..." and "where all parents are strong and wise and capable, and all children are happy and beloved." encompasses what I would like to see in the world. That would be my bluepill dream.
On one of these trips there are some tourist Chinese girls or similar, who are dressed scantily, and can walk around freely in the city as if it's an amusement park. Those tourist girls take some kind of picture of themselves. The Becky protagonist observes this and is reminded of how much the US has changed, how she used to be like those girls. Or she might not have observed that, I don't remember. Either way I remember this as being a strange but memorable scene in the book.
I think I read about a scene like that on its TVTropes page, but then didn't even think of it when talking about my thoughts on it later, when I really should have. Considering that it's all but said in that epilogue that North America is now ruled by Indigenous people, I wonder if her idea was that non-whites, at least the foreign ones, are genuinely unaffected by whatever is causing the women in Gilead to be sterile so often?
I guess the idea of ethnics having extinction-level birth rates was genuinely unimaginable in the 80s, but still, it's just wild for something like that to be explored so little in a story. Like, there doesn't seem to have been any ruminating from any of the characters on the fact that they are on the way to extinction, while different people are just looking on unbothered and waiting for them to die off.
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