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Serious i actually think girls are more attractive in their late teens/early 20s than they are at 13/14.

Busty women are usually just fat. If not, then ugly. It's like "buff" dudes, it usually doesn't happen unless they're just fat so it doesn't even really count
There are average/skinny foids with ample tits and tits don’t make a foid attractive but they’re a bonus.
 
Nope opposite for me. But respect your opinion OP
what age group do you prefer?
Tbh the difference is not that big but I usually find them the most attractive around 14. The decrease in attractiveness for me is very slight till the early 20s, I admit it's more about pureness and being untainted and amenable than about looks (even though looks are also better when younger).

If I get with the girl while she's still young, I want to commit and stay by her side as she ages.
women become less hot when they get in their 30s
 
They lose a ton of appeal by 20.
 
Good luck in prison talking about how much you like 12 year olds you might get your dick shoved down your throat
 
Girls aren't done growing in their early teens.
 
at the risk of sounding like an IT-fag, i actually don't think a 13/14 year old is more attractive than an 18 year old or even a 16 year old. Post-pubescent girls are more attractive than pubescent girls in my opinion. Girls tend to finish puberty at ages 15-17 and at 12-14, they actually are still developing secondary sex characteristics. i'm pretty sure most men find an 18 year old more attractive than a 14 year old or 13 year old.

most men do find 15-17 year olds attractive sometimes and I find them attractive sometimes, too. it's very common. i can find a 14 year old girl attractive but it's usually when they look old for their age, like a 14 year old who looks 20. 14 year olds who look younger I might find attractive but less attractive than older-looking 14 year olds. when girls get to 15-17, that's when they look like they could be 21 or 22. i don't understand how a 13 year old is hotter than an 18 year old. while many here prefer a 13 year old, I actually think post-pubescent teens and young adults are more attractive. i think at ages 15-25, women are most attractive. 13 year old girls often still have braces, tiny breasts and are tiny. when they get to 15-17 they are post-pubescent.

i've read studies about men being attracted to minors. all studies unanimously agree that men find post-pubescent teens sexually attractive. NO study questions that at all. but hebephilia? it's more complicated. Some studies show that men find girls most attractive at 14 or that men do think middle school girls are hot, but some studies show that this isn't as common as ephebophilia. it's something to have a debate over. but men are definitely attracted to post-pubescent teens. that is a proven fact.

one study shows that 16% of men are hebephiles and 82% of men are ephebophiles/teleiophiles. (ephebophilia is an attraction to post-pubescent teens and teleiophiles are attracted to young adults. hebephiles are attracted to pubescent kids. just remember in order to be a hebephile, you need to have a primary or exclusive attraction to pubescent kids. i think men find older teens more attractive than 13 year olds.

as a guy still hoping to find someone someday, i actually feel weirded out by the idea of sex with a 13 year old. i cannot go after 13 year olds to stop my inceldom. i wouldn't be interested in a 13 year old. i am in college and i don't mind dating a 21 year old girl who has had sex before. if that cured my inceldom, i'd be okay with it.
That's fair. I find girls most attractive in mid-late teen around 15-16, and that is also when most girls finish puberty so it would be their natural peak. There are many late bloomers though that imo peaks in their early 20s rather than 15. I also think most 13 year old girls are too petite and childlike.
 
Late teens/early 20s are prime age after all. Kids can have increased risk of physical problems if they are born to mothers younger than 15 years old
The you ones are more for novelty and getting them during their whole prime.
 
I think a lot of people on this board are infatuated with girls in early teens because they're more likely to be virgins. So the "halo" effect comes into play here. In the same way good looks halos perceived "personality", the increased likeliness of virginity halos perceived beauty.
 
I understand OP and it's true that some men prefer 20-25 year olds to 13-17 year olds, but what I hate is when numales lie to themselves and others. They're trying to convince themselves that they are absolutely not attracted to anything younger than 16 and even 18, not even 1% attraction. It's pathetic.
most men do find 15-17 year olds attractive sometimes
Almost every man is capable of getting a boner to a 12-13 year old and so are you, let alone 14+. ALL healthy men are attracted to adolescents to a certain degree, not some or most. As you said, a high % of men respond sexually to even pre-pubescent children and we're talking about 12-17 year olds? Lmao.
All men are attracted to these ages. When I say "attracted" I also mean capable of reacting sexually to stimuli involving minors of almost all ages. While many will cope and say "I'm not attracted to 13 year olds, that'd disgusting" what they really mean is they aren't allowed to be attracted to these ages, even on anonymous forums. The social stigma is too high. Many are in complete denial and actually delude themselves into thinking they feel absolutely nothing.
i don't understand how a 13 year old is hotter than an 18 year old.
It's preference, but it's a fact that most men get boners when looking at pictures of young girls posing in a slightly sexual manner. There was a study in the 70s that confirmed this. It's normal, but male sexuality is extremely repressed and shamed.
one study shows that 16% of men are hebephiles
Everyone needs to keep in mind this is exclusive hebephiles meaning they only feel attraction towards pubescent females. Almost all men are non-exclusive hebes meaning they're attracted to 12-17 year olds, but also to "adult" women. I'd wager at least 20% are non-exclusive pedophiles (attracted to pre-pubescent children along with other ages), possibly much more.
 
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I understand OP and it's true that some men prefer 20-25 year olds to 13-17 year olds, but what I hate is when numales lie to themselves and others. They're trying to convince themselves that they are absolutely not attracted to anything younger than 16 and even 18, not even 1% attraction. It's pathetic.

Almost every man is capable of getting a boner to a 12-13 year old and so are you, let alone 14-15. ALL healthy men find 15-17 year olds sexually attractive, not some or most.

It's preference, but it's a fact that most men get boners when looking at pictures of young girls posing in a slightly sexual manner. There was a study in the 70s that confirmed this. It's normal, but male sexuality is extremely repressed and shamed.

I wouldn't say I feel 0 attraction to sub 14 year olds, but the idea of sex with them creates some weird vibe in my head. In terms of preference, 14-25 is hottest for me
 
but the idea of sex with them creates some weird vibe in my head
It feels wrong because it's heavily punished by society. Men who are attracted to girls younger than 16-18 are seen as the most evil creatures in the world.
Since society views it as something that's much worse than even murder of an innocent adult, of course it messes with your head and makes it uncomfortable to even think about it. You can't imagine being so evil and disgusting. What would others think of you? You know exactly what they'd think of you. Many people would want to see you tortured and killed for even thinking about doing anything sexual with a minor.

Just thinking about it is seen as an incredibly evil act and no one wants to admit they sometimes think about it. It's social suicide. Men suppress their sexuality to an insane degree. Men are in complete denial about their sexuality, but many deep down know the truth and it makes them feel terrible. Some actually do delude themselves into thinking they feel absolutely nothing when looking at <16 year olds. They don't want to be disgusting evil predators, worse than mass murderers even.

All of this creates a feeling of disgust among men because they're confused and even angry with themselves. Numales hear all about how incredibly evil the things they think about are and they can't accept they're having those thoughts.

They don't know if most other men have these thoughts and desires, but they assume that very few do since after all it's such an abnormal and evil thing, it must be a very small minority of men. They hear about statistic and how only 1-3% of men are pedophiles (today this word includes hebes too.) They can't accept it, so they go full denial mode. In reality it's not 1-3% of men, it's more like at least 50% if not all healthy males are somewhat sexually attracted to <16 girls be it non-exclusively or exclusively.

This is what society is. A bunch of men trying to completely ignore a part of their sexuality to the point of insanity and extreme paranoia. It's pure delusion and denial.
 
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It feels wrong because it's heavily punished by society. Men who are attracted to girls younger than 16-18 are seen as the most evil creatures in the world.

True, and also because I see them as little kids, they're not developed as much as late teens girls
 
True, and also because I see them as little kids, they're not developed as much as late teens girls
This is also part of this entire coping mechanism that men have. I'm not saying you're wrong, it's just a way for you and many other men to rationalize their denial.
"I don't find them attractive because they're just kids, bro." This means nothing. If your dick and mind react when exposed to stimuli (in this case images, photos, videos or presence of minors, especially if it's slightly sexual in nature) it means there's some level of sexual attraction involved. It's the way it works and nature is sometimes simple like that.

Of course almost no man will ever admit to this. It's social suicide. Instead many men will suppress these thoughts so much to the point of paranoia. They accuse everyone of being a disgusting creep pedophile, even men who date younger women (Leonardo DiCaprio for example.)
 
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This is also part of this entire coping mechanism that men have. I'm not saying you're wrong, it's just a way for you and many other men to rationalize their denial. "I don't find them attractive because they're just kids, bro." This means nothing. If your dick and mind react when exposed to stimuli (in this case images, photos, videos or presence of minors.) It's the way it works and nature is sometimes simple like that.

Once again, I never said "I don't find them attractive" I said I don't find them AS attractive.
 
Once again, I never said "I don't find them attractive" I said I don't find them AS attractive.
I know that. I was specifically referring to "I see them as little kids." I only used what you said as an example of how most men cope and rationalize their extreme denial of reality.
 
6ft blonde Stacy or nothing
 
6 foot is too tall. I like girls 5'7 or below
Idk bro I want a girl who is geneticsmaxxed and also because women are extremely picky so I will be extremely picky and any girl who isn’t my type is a automatic 0/10
 
Didn’t read lol :dab: :dab: :dab: Femorloids are gay

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this chick, you wouldn't bang at 5'7?
 
I agree the ugly part is that every 20 yo whore is a roastie
 
Volcel if you wouldn't

She's a fucking supermodel. The hot chick from the blurred lines video.

Even ER with his love of stacies would fight tooth and nail to bang her
 
It feels wrong because it's heavily punished by society. Men who are attracted to girls younger than 16-18 are seen as the most evil creatures in the world.
Since society views it as something that's much worse than even murder of an innocent adult, of course it messes with your head and makes it uncomfortable to even think about it. You can't imagine being so evil and disgusting. What would others think of you? You know exactly what they'd think of you. Many people would want to see you tortured and killed for even thinking about doing anything sexual with a minor.

Just thinking about it is seen as an incredibly evil act and no one wants to admit they sometimes think about it. It's social suicide. Men suppress their sexuality to an insane degree. Men are in complete denial about their sexuality, but many deep down know the truth and it makes them feel terrible. Some actually do delude themselves into thinking they feel absolutely nothing when looking at <16 year olds. They don't want to be disgusting evil predators, worse than mass murderers even.

All of this creates a feeling of disgust among men because they're confused and even angry with themselves. Numales hear all about how incredibly evil the things they think about are and they can't accept they're having those thoughts.

They don't know if most other men have these thoughts and desires, but they assume that very few do since after all it's such an abnormal and evil thing, it must be a very small minority of men. They hear about statistic and how only 1-3% of men are pedophiles (today this word includes hebes too.) They can't accept it, so they go full denial mode. In reality it's not 1-3% of men, it's more like at least 50% if not all healthy males are somewhat sexually attracted to <16 girls be it non-exclusively or exclusively.

This is what society is. A bunch of men trying to completely ignore a part of their sexuality to the point of insanity and extreme paranoia. It's pure delusion and denial.
this moral panic over pedophilia didn't exist until the progressive era (1890-1920). seriously. pedophiles weren't always the outcasts of society. i read a bit of a book in an online preview. it talks about the moral panic over pedophilia. before the progressive era, people didn't care about pedophilia. the moral panic over pedophilia got worse in the 1930s, and even much worse in the 70s. the 70s was when it became just as bad as it is nowadays.
 
Everyone needs to keep in mind this is exclusive hebephiles meaning they only feel attraction towards pubescent females. Almost all men are non-exclusive hebes meaning they're attracted to 12-17 year olds, but also to "adult" women. I'd wager at least 20% are non-exclusive pedophiles (attracted to pre-pubescent children along with other ages), possibly much more.
I believe that, but feminism and the government pumping estrogen daily into their veins has mentally castrated them into being submissive herd followers who deny themselves from having any genuine thoughts or feelings, that aren't in line with 2020 npc cucked morality.
 
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I believe that, but feminism and the government pumping estrogen daily into their veins has mentally castrated them into being submissive herd followers who deny themselves from having any genuine thoughts or feelings, that aren't in line with 2020 npc cucked morality.
nowadays with fourth wave feminism, even finding college-age girls attractive is considered pedophilia.
 
nowadays with fourth wave feminism, even finding college-age girls attractive is considered pedophilia.
I'm happy they're extremely irrational so more people can realize they're crazy and ignore their bitching.
 
I'm happy they're extremely irrational so more people can realize they're crazy and ignore their bitching.
many people don't know they're crazy.
 
many people don't know they're crazy.
They will realize it sooner or later. The truth always gets out. That's why they try their best to censor dissenters whenever they can.
 
They will realize it sooner or later. The truth always gets out. That's why they try their best to censor dissenters whenever they can.
they'll know the truth a few decades later
 
Who’s even attracted to prepubescent girls? They’re like neither boy nor girl, neither man nor woman. Like subhumans who aren’t fully human yet. A different category.

all men are attracted to post puberty girls, even if they pretend not to be for fear of being labeled pedophiles, or because they don’t what to contend with the fact that they cannot have that which they are most attracted to. A post puberty foid is in her final form. Every male has jacked off to his hot 14 year old classmate when he was 14.. so at one king you found them attractive and did not have to hide it because it was socially acceptable... but are we really supposed to pretend that our mate choice criteria changed from 14 to 18? Is a male primate supposed to not want to fuck a fully mature, fertile female?
 
15-18 is the sweet spot of female attractiveness. When they go to college, they drink, stay up all night, and suck dick all day, so their looks are ruined by the time they turn 19. I youthmog literally every female on my campus because I still look like a high school freshman.
 
Who’s even attracted to prepubescent girls? They’re like neither boy nor girl, neither man nor woman. Like subhumans who aren’t fully human yet. A different category.

all men are attracted to post puberty girls, even if they pretend not to be for fear of being labeled pedophiles, or because they don’t what to contend with the fact that they cannot have that which they are most attracted to. A post puberty foid is in her final form. Every male has jacked off to his hot 14 year old classmate when he was 14.. so at one king you found them attractive and did not have to hide it because it was socially acceptable... but are we really supposed to pretend that our mate choice criteria changed from 14 to 18? Is a male primate supposed to not want to fuck a fully mature, fertile female?
finding 15-17 year olds attractive is normal. most men just don't act on it. even finding a 14 year old attractive is pretty common and it's definitely common if the 14 year old looks 20. most men don't wanna admit they find jb attractive
15-18 is the sweet spot of female attractiveness. When they go to college, they drink, stay up all night, and suck dick all day, so their looks are ruined by the time they turn 19. I youthmog literally every female on my campus because I still look like a high school freshman.
i think women look less attractive once they turn 30
I think if this site stays up it will be a lot sooner than that.
people won't listen to us
 
Not facially, they peak at 14-17. After reaching 18, they go downhill.
 
Not facially, they peak at 14-17. After reaching 18, they go downhill.
so you believe they have the best-looking face at 14-17? i'm confused by what you mean by "not facially".
 
so you believe they have the best-looking face at 14-17? i'm confused by what you mean by "not facially".
Yes, their facial beauty starts to peak at 14 and goes on for 3 more years; 15, 16 and 17.
 
wondering why you typed "not facially"?
>I actually think girls are more attractive in their late teens/early 20s

So I implied I agreed partially, just not facially, not every girl is fully developed at 14/15. For instance, my ex-oneitis' tits grew twice their original size at 16.
 
>I actually think girls are more attractive in their late teens/early 20s

So I implied I agreed partially, just not facially, not every girl is fully developed at 14/15. For instance, my ex-oneitis' tits grew twice their original size at 16.
i think girls look best facially when they're like 15-24. although some girls in their 20s these days put on eyebrow makeup that makes their eyebrows thick and black and weird looking.
 

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