Blackpill How the story of Travis the chimp relates to the estrangement that consumes us

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RIP Travis the Chimp!
[Thread started by Lanza.]
This is among the most hilarious things I've seen in my life. It's a tribute video to a
chimpanzee who snapped and went on a biting spree a couple of years ago. The humor
that I find in this is the way the video itself and its comments are parallel to the kind of
tributes you can find on YouTube for murderers like Alyssa Bustamante, where there
are comments saying, "It's not her fault! She's mentally ill and needed help!", and others
saying, "This cold-blooded emo bitch deserves to get hanged!".

Travis (chimpanzee) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

My favorite comments:
"That's a beautiful tribute to Travis I cried! Thanks so much for making it and sharing it.
We love you Travis!"

"The true murderer is the zanax travis was on. If that can do bad things to humans than
its worse for chimps."
"This video is a homage to a MURDERER. Fucking monkey, I'm glad you're DEAD."
"Travis belonged to the jungle with his fellow chimps ! HE is the victim of human
egotism and exploitation ! RIP in Heaven's Jungle Travis + Best wishes of recovery to
Charla Nash!"

RIP Travis the Chimp!
I think I just serendipitously came across Travis in his younger days.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVZwAPqFLTQ&t=0m28s

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Despite the main "chimp" being an orangutan, I wonder if Travis ever stayed up late to
watch this.

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Дивіться відео, слухайте улюблену музику, завантажуйте оригінальний вміст і діліться всім цим із друзями, рідними й цілим світом на YouTube.

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RIP Travis the Chimp!
Enculturing human children is already terrifying enough, but enculturing other apes is
something out of the cruelest nightmare. I don't know of anything more worthy of crying
over. Rest in peace, little buddy. You're free from the rape of civilization now.

RIP Travis the Chimp!
I should call in on John Zerzan's radio program about Travis. I'm really surprised that I
haven't been able to find anything he's written or said about the incident, considering how
often he brings up random acts of violence. It seems like Travis would be a poster-chimp
of his philosophy.

Transcript:

https://schoolshooters.info/sites/default/files/lanza_anarchyradio_1.2.pdf

LANZA: Civilization isn’t something which just happens to gently exist without us having
to do anything, because every newborn child -human child- is born in a chimp-like state,
and civilization is only sustained by conditioning them for years on end so that they’ll accept
it for what it is.

And since we’ve gone through this conditioning, we can observe a human
family raising a human child, and I’m sure that even you have trouble intuitively seeing it
as something unnatural, but when we see a chimp in that position, we [visually?] know that
there’s something profoundly wrong with the situation. And it’s easy to say there’s something
wrong with it simply because it’s a chimp, but what’s the real difference between us and our
closest relatives? Travis wasn’t an untamed monster at all.

Um, he wasn’t just feigning domestication, he was civilized. Um, he was able to integrate into society, he was a chimp actor
when he was younger, and his owner drove him around the city frequently in association with
her towing business, where he met many different people, and got along with everyone. If
Travis had been some nasty monster all his life, it would have been widely reported, but to
the contrary, it seems like everyone who knew him said how shocked they were that Travis
had been so savage, because they knew him as a sweet child. And — there were two isolated
incidents early in his life when he acted aggressively, but summarizing them would take
too long, so basically I’ll just say that he didn’t act really any differently than a human child
would, and the people who would use that as an indictment against having chimps live as
humans do wouldn’t apply the same thing to humans, so it’s just kind of irrelevant.

LANZA:
But anyway, look what civilization did to him: it had the same exact effect on him as
it has on humans. He was profoundly sick, in every sense of the term, and he had to resort
to these surrogate activities like watching baseball, and looking at pictures on a computer
screen, and taking Xanax. He was a complete mess.

RIP Travis the Chimp!

I must have forgotten about Tyke because I spend most of my time thinking about
primates, but I just remembered that I saw her video several years ago. The revolution
transcends taxonomic order!
http://www.heart-animals.com/2009/07/de ... phant.html

Tyke (elephant) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Funny scene from Human Nature:

https://dump.video/i/SmzJfG.mp4

The Five Stages of Collapse (excerpts)

Anarchy's charms:

The Status Syndrome

The introduction begins the argument by suggesting that health inequalities are pervasive, probably increasing, and likely to be a consequence of a particular group's degree of control over, and participation in, society.

Marmot makes much of the gradient in health. Each step in the SES hierarchy is characterized by its members as being less healthy than the SES group above it, and of better health than the group below. This directs attention away from poverty as a cause of diminished health to factors associated with the continuum of socioeconomic inequalities. Chapter 1 is an extension of this latter argument, discussing the nature of the gradient and considering what it is about the gradient that is important. It is interesting that ‘Academy Award-winning actors and actresses live an astonishing four years longer’ than equivalent distinguished actors and actresses, but does this help us understand why clerical workers live longer than, say, cleaners? Marmot would seem to argue that it does, and points to a common denominator—social control.

Chapter 2 summarizes some findings from the Whitehall studies. Here he documents both the magnitude of socioeconomic inequalities and discusses the biological and social correlates of these inequalities. It is pleasing to see an analysis of the nature/nurture debate which acknowledges the deep and pervasive impact they have on each other. Chapter 3 comprises a discussion of income inequalities as a possible basis for health inequalities. Income is described as not so much a way of acquiring more material possessions, but rather as a way of ‘keeping score’ of one's social position and one's social value. No doubt higher income does lead to greater control.

Chapter 4 presents as a Weberian inspired discussion of occupational standing. Status hierarchies are ubiquitous, have a biological basis, and mental and physical health consequences. Chapter 5 continues the Weberian theme with a discussion of power inequalities and the impact these have on health. There is, in this Chapter, a thoughtful consideration of the concept of stress and ways that stress might be more usefully measured. Control of one's environment relative to the demands under which one operates is seen as central to understanding the health consequences of stress. Chapter 6 constitutes a discussion of the health consequences of social networks (gossip to humans, we are informed, is arguably equivalent to grooming by monkeys—it facilitates the formation of social groups). There is also a restatement of the ‘general susceptibility’ argument here in the context of the health benefits of close social ties and social networks. Perhaps the case is overstated and the evidence quoted somewhat selective. Chapter 7 is Marmot's analysis of the association between ‘social capital’ and health. The physical environment can, it is argued, contribute to a sense of trust and cohesiveness with somewhat predictable health consequences. The case for the importance of social capital seems, on the evidence presented, overstated. Chapter 8 takes the recent decline in health in the Soviet block as its focus. The point, of course, is that rapid change in social life (and control?) may have massive health consequences. Chapter 9 considers the case for the fetal and childhood origins of adult health, locating some adult health inequalities in the fetal and childhood period.

The final chapter has two themes, one questioning the moral basis of health inequalities, the other a consideration of policy options. The appendix is a reproduction of the recommendations of the Acheson inquiry.

Marmot's book is a valuable source of material on health inequalities. It is an engaging piece of work which is not only informative about the field but also about Marmot himself.

https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/34/2/497/747145

 

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Well that's one hell of a first post.

 

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Did you even read one line from the excerpts tbqh?