Discussion How do you explain your inceldom to people?

[lennox]

In being an incel in this normie, neurotypical world, I've felt ashamed of myself and my strange existence.
In being so different, people drag us into the light of their normie worlds. We're told to hit the gym and get a job. We might get pulled into hangouts and bars, but I'm always leaving alone. We're often the only people they know to still be a virgin. Everyone is talking to me about their last hookups and nights out and attempts with girls, but I feel like we're speaking different languages. I continue my nodding— I say "I understand" when I don't. We are in each others' lives, but exist in different planes. This charade I participate in, with the strangers that come and go, isn't quite helping. I'm putting myself into uncomfortable situations for personal growth, but that one special thing about me hasn't changed. We feel like we're fundamentally different from normal people, especially those of us who are neurodivergent like myself. The activities, the tricks, and the games that work for them don't work for us.
How can I explain to people that I'm just different from them?

 

[lifesucksandyoudie]

I use my medical conditions as an excuse to hand wave away their pestering concerns

 

[Moroccancel]

You can't explain to a sexhaver a life without sexhaving. Their heads explode.

 

[laanda]

for me, only my parents care to know, and I tell them it's because I am ugly. They get upset but are oblivious to the blackpills controvercy so they don't think there's anything radical about saying it, and also don't claim I'm wrong, it's just an uncomfortable subject whenever it is broached
noone else cares so I haven't had to tell them

 

[lennox]

You can't explain to a sexhaver a life without sexhaving. Their heads explode.

No one can explain meaning without sex. There is no life, no existence when you're lonely

 

[lennox]

for me, only my parents care to know, and I tell them it's because I am ugly. They get upset but are oblivious to the blackpills controvercy so they don't think there's anything radical about saying it, and also don't claim I'm wrong, it's just an uncomfortable subject whenever it is broached
noone else cares so I haven't had to tell them

When people try to encourage a change in your life situation, do you keep optimistic?

 

[psyop]

You can't explain to a sexhaver a life without sexhaving. Their heads explode.

You can get away with “Zina’s haram” until a certain age. Better than nothing

 

[laanda]

When people try to encourage a change in your life situation, do you keep optimistic?

they don't really. Again noone else cares and at this point my parents don't have any suggestions left. I already tried travel, trying new jobs, they already saw me looksmax and try to date for years, at this point all they could say is 'try again' and they know that would be a bit rough to say. Over
Bluepillers tell me to, but they do so while assuming shit about my life they don't know so that advice is flawed to begin with

 

[Moroccancel]

You can get away with “Zina’s haram” until a certain age. Better than nothing

That's knowledge when you reach puberty.

Chads fuck them all, foids then "repent" and look for a husband.

 

[Karakol96]

I don't talk to people I do talk to my parents but whenever a serious topic comes up I ignore it and don't talk about

 

[Karakol96]

Why would you want to explain it to normfags anyways? They will see you as a lesser human and either give stupid advice or make fun of you

 

[Karakol96]

And why are you ashamed? Is it your fault that the world is the way it is? Ive never been ashamed of myself and I never will because im not the problem

 

[Enigmaz]

Theres no explaination to make normies understand and worst case scenario they just laugh in your face. I just avoid talking about sex in real life altogether.

 

[SubhumanGamer]

I don't. If you bring this up to any normie you will get seen as a weird outcast almost immediately, then whoever you brought this up to will vanish from you life quicker than a black father.

 

[lennox]

Why would you want to explain it to normfags anyways? They will see you as a lesser human and either give stupid advice or make fun of you

normfags = everyone we know, and they keep trying to give me advice because I stand out for not talking to girls

 

[lennox]

I don't. If you bring this up to any normie you will get seen as a weird outcast almost immediately, then whoever you brought this up to will vanish from you life quicker than a black father.

I'm young and people at my age are still new to dating. I'm just not progressing, but they're all talking about it because it's the new hype for them

 

[Karakol96]

normfags = everyone we know, and they keep trying to give me advice because I stand out for not talking to girls

And that's why I avoid them

 

[SubhumanGamer]

I'm young and people at my age are still new to dating. I'm just not progressing, but they're all talking about it because it's the new hype for them

Get a AI girlfriend or something so you can be involved in the conversations but just make sure to lie by ommission and be as vague as you can.

 

[laanda]

they don't really. Again noone else cares and at this point my parents don't have any suggestions left. I already tried travel, trying new jobs, they already saw me looksmax and try to date for years, at this point all they could say is 'try again' and they know that would be a bit rough to say. Over
Bluepillers tell me to, but they do so while assuming shit about my life they don't know so that advice is flawed to begin with

When people try to encourage a change in your life situation, do you keep optimistic?

i am simply lucky to have oblivious parents. They don't consume much media which tells them that saying lookism exists is a bad thing. My dad likely suffered lookism of his own. He should have been more open about this with me but atleast he didn't try bluepill me about it.
People talk often here about their parents being massive bluepillers. Shit makes me mad. Imagine gaslighting your own kid that they have flaws they do not have and that is why they are incel. That is the opposite of what parents are supposed to do.
Thankfully even when growing up while my parents did not tell me that looks matter they also never tried to tell me they don't. That would have been rough.

 

[lennox]

And why are you ashamed? Is it your fault that the world is the way it is? Ive never been ashamed of myself and I never will because im not the problem

I didn't make myself ugly and autistic but the results from that feel like a personal failure. Looks and social ability can be changed to some degree, so the pressure is on me to ascend

 

[lennox]

Get a AI girlfriend or something so you can be involved in the conversations but just make sure to lie by ommission and be as vague as you can.

Do they talk as if they're already interested in you? Is it like a challenge to get them to like you? That can be useful where you can improve your personality without having the looks requirements for conversation

 

[Failed Pullout]

I don't or I lie.

 

[lennox]

And that's why I avoid them

If we wanted to be lonely we wouldn't be on here. Perhaps you should be more honest about your feelings

 

[Karakol96]

If we wanted to be lonely we wouldn't be on here. Perhaps you should be more honest about your feelings

I am lonely but there is no person I want to be around, especially not normfags

 

[laanda]

I didn't make myself ugly and autistic but the results from that feel like a personal failure. Looks and social ability can be changed to some degree, so the pressure is on me to ascend

putting pressure on someone to do something they literally cannot is their problem. You don't need to be on the same page and almost all users just exist with an accepted gap in between them and anyone who tells them bluepills. Even their parents

I don't or I lie.

my strategy when I used to talk to other people
they can't prove you're lying and if they say out loud they suspect you are lying because of your stats then they have dug their own grave

 

[SubhumanGamer]

Do they talk as if they're already interested in you? Is it like a challenge to get them to like you? That can be useful where you can improve your personality without having the looks requirements for conversation

Some of them require some investment of time (and money sometimes) for them to cozy up to you.

 

[SubhumanGamer]

I am lonely but there is no person I want to be around, especially not normfags

 

[Karakol96]

I didn't make myself ugly and autistic but the results from that feel like a personal failure. Looks and social ability can be changed to some degree, so the pressure is on me to ascend

Why would you want to fix your "social abiliy"? To hang out with normfags and become one of them? I dont know about you but my social ability is shit because of social isolation and social isolation is the only option for me because I will get treated badly if I try to fit in. I dont want to fix it

 

[Karakol96]

I didn't make myself ugly and autistic but the results from that feel like a personal failure. Looks and social ability can be changed to some degree, so the pressure is on me to ascend

Your looks can be fixed to a point. You may become mtn after surgeries and then what? Chad is still slaying while you struggle to find someone. And if you do you will be an oofy doofy

 

[lennox]

I don't or I lie.

I'm too honest. Plus it could be horrific if a ton of girls come to the hangouts

putting pressure on someone to do something they literally cannot is their problem. You don't need to be on the same page and almost all users just exist with an accepted gap in between them and anyone who tells them bluepills. Even their parents

If my only option is to boost my attraction rating by half a point, then that's all I can do

Why would you want to fix your "social abiliy"? To hang out with normfags and become one of them? I dont know about you but my social ability is shit because of social isolation and social isolation is the only option for me because I will get treated badly if I try to fit in. I dont want to fix it

If you resolve whatever made you isolated in the first place, even by other guys, then the whole social isolation issue would resolve itself by just not isolating

 

[Kinkcel1]

Why would you want to fix your "social abiliy"? To hang out with normfags and become one of them? I dont know about you but my social ability is shit because of social isolation and social isolation is the only option for me because I will get treated badly if I try to fit in. I dont want to fix it

 

[Karakol96]

If you resolve whatever made you isolated in the first place, even by other guys, then the whole social isolation issue would resolve itself by just not isolating

And you will just ignore the years and years of bullying, humilation and getting treated like shit? Being an incel teaches you a lot about people and after seeing how fucked up the world is I don't want to socialise

 

[lennox]

Your looks can be fixed to a point. You may become mtn after surgeries and then what? Chad is still slaying while you struggle to find someone. And if you do you will be an oofy doofy

You've got to think in terms not of a binary but a spectrum. It can't be that every somewhat looksmatched couple is a betabuxx or settling situation. There are multiple factors to attractiveness when you acknowledge the factor of NT/ND outweighs looks. Status and experience are big ones. For example, all foids like it when guys get with lots of girls, even if those girls aren't particularly attractive.

 

[Karakol96]

You've got to think in terms not of a binary but a spectrum. It can't be that every somewhat looksmatched couple is a betabuxx or settling situation. .

No she may use him for other purpose just for company or someone to talk to whatever.

 

[lennox]

And you will just ignore the years and years of bullying, humilation and getting treated like shit? Being an incel teaches you a lot about people and after seeing how fucked up the world is I don't want to socialise

Those bullies are gone now. Everything outside your life has moved. You can make something new for yourself, where you include the people you want

 

[Karakol96]

Those bullies are gone now. Everything outside your life has moved. You can make something new for yourself, where you include the people you want

Read the last sentence of my response

 

[Grey Man]

How do you explain your inceldom to people?​

You don't. It is honestly a huge waste of time to explain a completely new system of logic to someone who has never been in our shoes. What do you get from it anyways?

 

[lennox]

You don't. It is honestly a huge waste of time to explain a completely new system of logic to someone who has never been in our shoes. What do you get from it anyways?

I want them to stop bugging me like we're anything alike. I'd also like for them to be more sympathetic to people like us

 

[lennox]

Read the last sentence of my response

well there's something you're doing to yourself as it currently stands

 

[Karakol96]

well there's something you're doing to yourself as it currently stands

What do you mean?

 

[lennox]

What do you mean?

Meet some good people, then there'd be one of many barriers to inceldom out of the way. This thing where people introduce me to others hasn't worked for me but could for others

 

[Grodd]

I don't talk to people I do talk to my parents but whenever a serious topic comes up I ignore it and don't talk about

 

[lennox]

I don't talk to people I do talk to my parents but whenever a serious topic comes up I ignore it and don't talk about

You can't ignore this because it won't go away. Not if you leave it alone.

 

[Grey Man]

I want them to stop bugging me like we're anything alike. I'd also like for them to be more sympathetic to people like us

Not possible since the ER incident. The second they ever hear the about a virgin man any civil discussion is thrown out the window.

 

[lennox]

Not possible since the ER incident. The second they ever hear the about a virgin man any civil discussion is thrown out the window.

They seem more open when they do know that you try, like going to places where normies congregate (hangouts, bars as stated). Then you're sort of placed outside the "complete incel box" to them

 

[HomicidalSuicidal88]

You can't explain to a sexhaver a life without sexhaving. Their heads explode.

 

[Grey Man]

They seem more open when they do know that you try, like going to places where normies congregate (hangouts, bars as stated). Then you're sort of placed outside the "complete incel box" to them

Ok I sort of get it. If you ever talk to them about issues like these just try making them put themselves into our shoes.

 

[Shitskin=Shitlife]

I don't need to explain it. They just look at my face and know.

 

[PolskiKartofel]

You can't explain to a sexhaver a life without sexhaving. Their heads explode.

 

[PolskiKartofel]

I don't need to explain it. They just look at my face and know.

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