Discussion How do we argue with these sets of logical fallacies normies use on us?

[blackedpiller]

"Just stop calling yourself an incel, just say your a Virgin, why are you associated with a hate group"

"It's all in your head"

"Oh well I know some guy(s) that are short, ugly, stink but have Beautiful girlfriends so you're just making excuses"

"You aren't entitled to anything"

"Just be gay"

"Nobody thinks you're subhuman, act as if everyone is against you"

"Just go outside"

"Your a lonely loser Virgin aren't you?"

 

[LeFrenchCel]

"Just stop calling yourself an incel, just say your a Virgin, why are you associated with a hate group"

Bc my virginity is involuntary

"It's all in your head"

No

"Oh well I know some guy(s) that are short, ugly, stink but have Beautiful girlfriends so you're just making excuses"

Exceptions prove the rule

"You aren't entitled to anything"

Neither should anyone

"Just be gay"

No

"Nobody thinks you're subhuman, act as if everyone is against you"

Cope

"Just go outside"

I did, nothing happened

"Your a lonely loser Virgin aren't you?"

Yes

Hope this can help you

 

[blackedpiller]

Bc my virginity is involuntary


No


Exceptions prove the rule


Neither should anyone


No


Cope


I did, nothing happened


Yes

Hope this can help you

Well you did your best

 

[ShiiOfTheSPLC]

In Azerbaijan, both marriage by capture (qız qaçırmaq) and elopement (qoşulub qaçmaq) are relatively common practices. In the Azeri kidnap custom, a young woman is taken to the home of the abductor's parents through either deceit or force. Regardless of whether rape occurs or not, the woman is generally regarded as impure by her relatives, and is therefore forced to marry her abductor. ... spousal abuse is rampant and recourse to law enforcement for domestic matters is impossible. In Azerbaijan, women abducted by bride kidnapping sometimes become slaves of the family who kidnap them.

 

[blackedpiller]

In Azerbaijan, both marriage by capture (qız qaçırmaq) and elopement (qoşulub qaçmaq) are relatively common practices. In the Azeri kidnap custom, a young woman is taken to the home of the abductor's parents through either deceit or force. Regardless of whether rape occurs or not, the woman is generally regarded as impure by her relatives, and is therefore forced to marry her abductor. ... spousal abuse is rampant and recourse to law enforcement for domestic matters is impossible. In Azerbaijan, women abducted by bride kidnapping sometimes become slaves of the family who kidnap them.

That's pretty insane, this is why I hate shit skins and slavics

 

[Mecoja]

"Just stop calling yourself an incel, just say your a Virgin, why are you associated with a hate group"

Doesnt matter, i dont call myself either in real life

"It's all in your head"

Me being 36yo khhv is not only in my head

"Oh well I know some guy(s) that are short, ugly, stink but have Beautiful girlfriends so you're just making excuses"

Doesnt exists, never saw it in my day to day real life. Cherrypicking few rich celebrities out 8 billions of people doesnt count.

"You aren't entitled to anything"

No one is entitled to anything, good or bad

"Just be gay"

Your dad

"Nobody thinks you're subhuman, act as if everyone is against you"

No one needs to be against you or to call you a subhuman in your face to realize that other people dont respect you and dont want anything to do with you

"Just go outside"

Theres nothing outside for losers, you will walk or stand alone the same way like youre doing at home

"Your a lonely loser Virgin aren't you?"

Thats the whole goddamn point, isnt it?

 

[blackedpiller]

Doesnt matter, i dont call myself either in real life

Me being 36yo khhv is not only in my head

Doesnt exists, never saw it in my day to day real life. Cherrypicking few rich celebrities out 8 billions of people doesnt count.

No one is entitled to anything, good or bad

Your dad

No one needs to be against you or to call you a subhuman in your face to realize that other people dont respect you and dont want anything to do with you

Theres nothing outside for losers, you will walk or stand alone the same way like youre doing at home

Thats the whole goddamn point, isnt it?

That's the ticket

 

[xkcdCleftcel]

"Just stop calling yourself an incel, just say your a Virgin, why are you associated with a hate group"

Inceldom is not inherently a hate group. Yes, certain identified incels do espouse hateful rhetoric, but that does not represent the majority of incels. What Anti- incels see is forums like this which do espouse hate, but most incels don't use this forum, so you can't generalise. Saying you are a virgin is fine, but what we miss out on is a community, which is why we identify as incels. Being in a pack is natural human behaviour.

"It's all in your head"

It is not all in our head. It is obvious from day to day life that we are shunned people. Lookism is so clearly evident that this doesn't even deserve a proper response.

"Oh well I know some guy(s) that are short, ugly, stink but have Beautiful girlfriends so you're just making excuses"

Exceptions prove the rule

"You aren't entitled to anything"

neither are you

"Just be gay"

We're heterosexual so no

"Nobody thinks you're subhuman, act as if everyone is against you"

Everyone thinks it when they see us. It's just not socially acceptable to call someone else a subhuman and trying to deny this is plain wrong.

"Just go outside"

Most of us do. This doesn't change anything, it just proves us right even more when we're treated like shit based on our appearance.

"Your a lonely loser Virgin aren't you?"

Yes, you are correct. And if you think virginity is what entitles someone to be treated like a decent human being then you're proving the blackpill yet again.

 

[blackedpiller]

Inceldom is not inherently a hate group. Yes, certain identified incels do espouse hateful rhetoric, but that does not represent the majority of incels. What Anti- incels see is forums like this which do espouse hate, but most incels don't use this forum, so you can't generalise. Saying you are a virgin is fine, but what we miss out on is a community, which is why we identify as incels. Being in a pack is natural human behaviour.

It is not all in our head. It is obvious from day to day life that we are shunned people. Lookism is so clearly evident that this doesn't even deserve a proper response.

Exceptions prove the rule

neither are you

We're heterosexual so no

Everyone thinks it when they see us. It's just not socially acceptable to call someone else a subhuman and trying to deny this is plain wrong.

Most of us do. This doesn't change anything, it just proves us right even more when we're treated like shit based on our appearance.

Yes, you are correct. And if you think virginity is what entitles someone to be treated like a decent human being then you're proving the blackpill yet again.

 

[Autistic Uggo]

"Just stop calling yourself an incel, just say your a Virgin, why are you associated with a hate group"

Inceldom is not a movement or a hate group. It's a life circumstance like being homeless. We didn't stay virgins by choice; sex and intimacy are unattainable for us.

"It's all in your head"

Decades worth of scientific literature supports the conclusions of the . The is propped up by weak anecdotal evidence along with fallacies such as the Just world hypothesis and Survivorship bias.

"Oh well I know some guy(s) that are short, ugly, stink but have Beautiful girlfriends so you're just making excuses"

Lone anecdotes are not very convincing. There are always outliers to any statistical trend. Moreover, your anecdote doesn't paint a complete picture of this person's love life. For all we know, he could be getting cheated on.

"You aren't entitled to anything"

Most incels do not believe this. We merely want sex and relationships. As a side note, it's interesting how feminists aren't as opposed to the draft or male circumcision. What happened to bodily autonomy and consent?

"Just be gay"

You sound homophobic. We can't choose to be gay.

"Nobody thinks you're subhuman, act as if everyone is against you"

The Horn effect shows that ugly people are treat worse in all aspects of life. That includes income, legal sentencing and interpersonal relationships. It goes beyond your sex appeal. You can see similar effects for race and disability.

"Just go outside"

The majority of incels are not basement dwellers. We have hobbies and jobs, but we still can't find a partner.

"Your a lonely loser Virgin aren't you?"

Yes