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how come europeans gave up their guns

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Shouldn't they have objected
 
Meaningful large scale societal opposition of government legislation almost never occurs in developed countries. The vast majority of people are simply too scared of repercussions to oppose the government in any significant way, and it's not like simple acts of protest would work in preventing what the government wants.
 
Most European countries didn't really have something like the 2nd amendment. Saying that they "gave up their guns" is incorrect since they never really "had guns" in the first place
 
Rather not have some retard shoot up a place because muh liberty
 
Rather not have some retard shoot up a place because muh liberty
And their liberty in question is going shooting on the weekeds.
If I saw someone open carrying irl I'd just fucking run, but I guess they trust any retard with a clean criminal record to not go ballistic for some random reason.
It's so mind boggling.
 
but what if someone stronger than u attacks you? ur fucked without a gun
Then you'll let yourself get beaten up; if you defend yourself, you're considered a "Nazi" here anyway. :feelshaha:
 
We have never had guns. We have always been slaves. First to kings and now the Jewish pedo banks
 
Most European countries didn't really have something like the 2nd amendment. Saying that they "gave up their guns" is incorrect since they never really "had guns" in the first place
In Germany, before the end of WW II gun ownership was normal, afaik.

Only Jews weren't allowed to own guns, afaik, by the Nazis.

After Germany had lost the war, slowly the new "german" government would more and more castrate the right to own guns.

Nowadays bureaucracy and costs have made it practically impossible for most Germans to own even a handguns, stored in a safe, which isn't easily accessible in case of an emergency.

And afaik, you are not even allowed to shoot an intruder with your gun. The firearm will be seized, you at least fined and your right to own guns revoked.

Also concealed carry licences are only given to very specific people with certain professions.
Self defense is not considered a good enough reason to received a concealed carry licence.

We desperately need a 2nd amendment, now more than ever. I won't say more because of badge niggers watching.
 
And their liberty in question is going shooting on the weekeds.
If I saw someone open carrying irl I'd just fucking run, but I guess they trust any retard with a clean criminal record to not go ballistic for some random reason.
It's so mind boggling.
Absolute freedom comes with absolute responsibility and absolute risk.

If you want to trade freedom for security, you will get neither in the end, which can be ibserved in the UK and Germany.
 
Absolute freedom comes with absolute responsibility and absolute risk.

If you want to trade freedom for security, you will get neither in the end, which can be ibserved in the UK and Germany.
That's just not true, there's no reason to look at things in absolutes. There also isn't absolute freedom in USA seeing as absolute freedom would imply lawlessness. Just because people are not allowed to have guns doesn't mean the government is more powerful, ESPECIALLY in liberal societies.
Truth is Americans like to larp, and they are sacrificing their safety for it. You aren't that guy lil bro.
Also UK and Germany have so much more complicated problems than "muh guns", and are also A LOT safer than USA.
 
That's just not true, there's no reason to look at things in absolutes. There also isn't absolute freedom in USA seeing as absolute freedom would imply lawlessness. Just because people are not allowed to have guns doesn't mean the government is more powerful, ESPECIALLY in liberal societies.
Truth is Americans like to larp, and they are sacrificing their safety for it. You aren't that guy lil bro.
Also UK and Germany have so much more complicated problems than "muh guns", and are also A LOT safer than USA.
Don't you ever call me lil bro.
I could be your father.

Most of you guys are in your twenties at best.

And it is what it is. I would rather have guns.
And it is not just about the government. This is about me wanting to be able to defend myself against stronger threats successfully, if necessary.

I don't want to have to rely on cops who take up to 40 minutes to arrive to the scene.

Besides, criminals have never cared about gun laws. kek

And that too they are proving here in Germany and the UK.
 
Don't you ever call me lil bro.
I could be your father.

Most of you guys are in your twenties at best.

And it is what it is. I would rather have guns.
And it is not just about the government. This is about me wanting to be able to defend myself against stronger threats successfully, if necessary.

I don't want to have to rely on cops who take up to 40 minutes to arrive to the scene.

Besides, criminals have never cared about gun laws. kek

And that too they are proving here in Germany and the UK.
You aren't John Wick lil bro, also I doubt you are walking strapped 24/7. Truth is, every retard can get a gun in America, and when a mentally ill person decides today is the day, not having a gun at the fucking Walmart might be a good thing. Also if he starts blasting, you can't expect almost anyone to have a gun in a school, college, grocery store etc. Also, you can have a gun in other countries the process is just much more stricter.
 
Most European countries didn't really have something like the 2nd amendment. Saying that they "gave up their guns" is incorrect since they never really "had guns" in the first place
This.

They had no "wild territories" full of dangerous critters and feral humans...

The whole "2nd amendment" was a cheap way to get national defense.
 
The whole "2nd amendment" was a cheap way to get national defense.
True. A large, standing U.S. army is pretty recent. For much of the country’s history state militias were expected to be fight wars.

The very existence of a peacetime federal army was controversial among the founders.
 
You can always get it from a..."special" source.
 
Truth is, every retard can get a gun in America, and when a mentally ill person decides today is the day, not having a gun at the fucking Walmart might be a good thing.
That’s not true, retard. You’re either a clueless foreigner or have never attempted to buy a firearm before in your life.

In my state, for example, a plethora of regulations and background checks are required to purchase a firearm. I myself have been barred from purchasing a firearm because of this.
 
That’s not true, retard. You’re either a clueless foreigner or have never attempted to buy a firearm before in your life.

In my state, for example, a plethora of regulations and background checks are required to purchase a firearm. I myself have been barred from purchasing a firearm because of this.
I over exaggerated, retard. I know background checks exist. My point still stands. It's WAY easier for people who shouldn't get guns to own guns in America. And America is more dangerous than any liberal European society for that reason.
School shootings are extremely rare anywhere else compared to America. And little Timmy isn't going to school with a little Tommy to shoot down his classmate, but it's worth it because "muh liberty". Also it's much easier for criminals to get guns in America than anywhere else.

YOU CAN ALSO GET GUNS IN OTHER COUNTRIES. I understand an American can't comprehend this because they think that's an unique right USA has, but people own guns everywhere. And the amount of guns doesn't necessarily scale with liberty believe it or not. At best it scales up to a point (for example there are probably no guns in North Korea and China, but there are also guns in all Arabic countries, places like Serbia, Bosnia, etc meaning countries that aren't very free).
TLDR: American gun laws are to loose, and other countries allow possession of firearms also. Americans just like to larp because they are fat consumer faggots who got nothing better to do.
Retard.
 
I over exaggerated, retard. I know background checks exist. My point still stands. It's WAY easier for people who shouldn't get guns to own guns in America. And America is more dangerous than any liberal European society for that reason.
School shootings are extremely rare anywhere else compared to America. And little Timmy isn't going to school with a little Tommy to shoot down his classmate, but it's worth it because "muh liberty". Also it's much easier for criminals to get guns in America than anywhere else.
It really isn’t in many jurisdictions where arms are very much restricted. You have no idea what you’re talking about.

Furthermore, you fail to understand that the vast majority of gun violence and crime in general is committed by niggers and other ethnics, which is why America is so dangerous compared to relatively homogeneous Western Europe. In fact, if all non-whites were removed and only whites counted, America's overall violent crime rate would be on a par with Canada and the Czech Republic, and lower than France's. It all comes down to race, not the guns themselves, which the founders wanted to see carried only by responsible whites.
I understand an American can't comprehend this because they think that's an unique right USA has
I can, in fact. The right to bear arms has its origins in the English Bill of Rights.

Also, in Switzerland, all male citizens are required by law to have a firearm in their home. Almost everyone is armed, but widespread gun violence is unknown. The reason? They live in a homogeneous and very trusting society, which is not the case in America for the reason I mentioned.

Americans just like to larp because they are fat consumer faggots who got nothing better to do.
Retard.
Seething ESL nigger
 
which is why America is so dangerous compared to relatively homogeneous Western Europe.
The emphasis here is really on "relatively." I can't put it any other way. The number of non-whites, especially in younger age groups, is incredibly high here (in West Germany). Instead of guns, they prefer knives/bladed weapons, and these shitskins often attack in packs. The idea that Western European cities are homogeneous or safe is often a thing of the past. There are certain neighborhoods you should definitely avoid.
 
It really isn’t in many jurisdictions where arms are very much restricted. You have no idea what you’re talking about.

Furthermore, you fail to understand that the vast majority of gun violence and crime in general is committed by niggers and other ethnics, which is why America is so dangerous compared to relatively homogeneous Western Europe. In fact, if all non-whites were removed and only whites counted, America's overall violent crime rate would be on a par with Canada and the Czech Republic, and lower than France's. It all comes down to race, not the guns themselves, which the founders wanted to see carried only by responsible whites.

I can, in fact. The right to bear arms has its origins in the English Bill of Rights.

Also, in Switzerland, all male citizens are required by law to have a firearm in their home. Almost everyone is armed, but widespread gun violence is unknown. The reason? They live in a homogeneous and very trusting society, which is not the case in America for the reason I mentioned.


Seething ESL nigger
I'm not reading all of that shit
 

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