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At some point it just feels like all of the effort you have to put in as a sub 8 male to luck out and even get a single used up woman is just not worth it at all.
If you don't use online, you're going out to bars constantly chatting up women only to be rejected and given the cold shoulder time and time again, or have basic interactions that lead to you becoming a beta orbiter at best (I've seen this type of guy when out far too much).
If you try online, then you're spamming out tons and tons of messages to girls that has a inflated ego from her 5000 likes on tinder and from tons of daily offers from chad on any social media(or swiping every girl on Tinder) that will lead to few replies and no dates even if you get a date it will only to wind up with the situation described above for face to face game. In either case you will be completely ignored in favor of a tall, good looking high LMS chad when one arrives on the scene. It's like you don't exist if there's a better guy around (this is especially true for ethnics since so few girls are open to ethnics anyway).
Add in the difficulty of working a social circle into all of the above when you don't have one (you more or less need one to open up the social opportunities to meet women), and it's far more effort than it's worth. The 8+ guys barely need to do anything while guys in the 5-7 range are simply competing for second place.
When do you just realize you're not meant to be the slayer with a packed social calendar and tons of girls you can rotate through? When do you just give up and call it quits? Could you actually wind up happier if you accepted your place rather than have a chip on your shoulder every time you meet somebody? Every piece of PUA/self-help nonsense comes from the frame of the guy having a chip on his shoulder with something to prove. The slayers are simply enough as they are and don't need to prove anything, which is why all of that shit is pointless.
Good luck competing with tall Chads who have years of sexual/social experience and can make her laugh all day and build up chemistry.
If you don't use online, you're going out to bars constantly chatting up women only to be rejected and given the cold shoulder time and time again, or have basic interactions that lead to you becoming a beta orbiter at best (I've seen this type of guy when out far too much).
If you try online, then you're spamming out tons and tons of messages to girls that has a inflated ego from her 5000 likes on tinder and from tons of daily offers from chad on any social media(or swiping every girl on Tinder) that will lead to few replies and no dates even if you get a date it will only to wind up with the situation described above for face to face game. In either case you will be completely ignored in favor of a tall, good looking high LMS chad when one arrives on the scene. It's like you don't exist if there's a better guy around (this is especially true for ethnics since so few girls are open to ethnics anyway).
Add in the difficulty of working a social circle into all of the above when you don't have one (you more or less need one to open up the social opportunities to meet women), and it's far more effort than it's worth. The 8+ guys barely need to do anything while guys in the 5-7 range are simply competing for second place.
When do you just realize you're not meant to be the slayer with a packed social calendar and tons of girls you can rotate through? When do you just give up and call it quits? Could you actually wind up happier if you accepted your place rather than have a chip on your shoulder every time you meet somebody? Every piece of PUA/self-help nonsense comes from the frame of the guy having a chip on his shoulder with something to prove. The slayers are simply enough as they are and don't need to prove anything, which is why all of that shit is pointless.
Good luck competing with tall Chads who have years of sexual/social experience and can make her laugh all day and build up chemistry.
