How are normal men so fucking strong?

[crew2]

While genetics determine a lot there is also a lot of pressure to look bigger these days so there are a lot of guys on steroids.

I've been going the gym for a couple of years and have only recently had my diet on point for the last few months but have only got a bit leaner due to the cleaner diet and put on a little muscle.

It takes years to see a real difference even with an ideal diet unless you are on steroids. Over the years the only guys that I have seen make very fast progress have been on steroids and openly talk about it as I know them quite well.

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

Thats a skewed analogy and you know it.

Bullshit. It's the exact same thing. If you just keep increasing the weight you lift and eating more when your body refuses to make more muscle mass all that happens is:

1) you get fatter
2) you risk injuring yourself

Been there for both.

Just because your genes let you put on endless muscle doesn't mean the rest of us have the same thing. Might as well try to give advice on how to be taller while you're at it.

 

[Figthcel]

Bullshit. It's the exact same thing. If you just keep increasing the weight you lift and eating more when your body refuses to make more muscle mass all that happens is:

1) you get fatter
2) you risk injuring yourself

Been there for both.

Just because your genes let you put on endless muscle doesn't mean the rest of us have the same thing. Might as well try to give advice on how to be taller while you're at it.

Exactly.

I've been at the point of "getting fat, while excercising daily", and it is ridiculous. I was eating like 4000 kcal daily and having cramps from the protein.

I will also add that when after 3 years I managed to bench 80 kg, within 2 weeks I promptly injured my shoulder doing so. KEK

For some reason my real life avatar is obviously supposed to be a WIZARD/MAGE class, but there is no magic to be had, so there's no point.

 

[Deleted member 60]

genetics. I feel you OP. I have to put in 100x more effort than most people to see results.

 

[EthnicelNL]

While genetics determine a lot there is also a lot of pressure to look bigger these days so there are a lot of guys on steroids.

I've been going the gym for a couple of years and have only recently had my diet on point for the last few months but have only got a bit leaner due to the cleaner diet and put on a little muscle.

It takes years to see a real difference even with an ideal diet unless you are on steroids. Over the years the only guys that I have seen make very fast progress have been on steroids and openly talk about it as I know them quite well.

Just use steroids theory confirmed

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

Just use steroids theory confirmed

Yeah except even for that its a shitshow. Need to have perfect hair genetics or you'll go bald at an incredible rate on them. I already have to work to keep my hair in good shape.

Rather have hair and be skinny than be bald and have a barely acceptable physique.

Even that one buff white guy people post Connor Murphy I think that does videos on beaches and stuff is going bald as hell.

This was a long while ago:

He's much worse now. At least he's white, tall, and has a perfect face/body.

You can't go bald if you have none of those things.

 

[crew2]

Just use steroids theory confirmed

Yep. I mean don't get me wrong there are some people who are just freaks strength wise. There is a guy I know who is only a little bit bigger than me but lifts almost 2 and a half times as much on some machines. I also know a guy who is 58 and lifts 450 pounds on the bench press. He has been on steroids for half his life due to being a former bouncer but he said when he was 17 when he first started the gym he was a natural and could lift 280 back then.

As for getting ripped and increasing actual muscle very fast though e.g. The Rock or Zac Efron = 100% steroids.

Yeah except even for that its a shitshow. Need to have perfect hair genetics or you'll go bald at an incredible rate on them. I already have to work to keep my hair in good shape.

Rather have hair and be skinny than be bald and have a barely acceptable physique.

Even that one buff white guy people post Connor Murphy I think that does videos on beaches and stuff is going bald as hell.

This was a long while ago:

He's much worse now. At least he's white, tall, and has a perfect face/body.

You can't go bald if you have none of those things.

This too. I won't go into science but basically everything that is known to be bad for your hair in the body is apparently increased drastically on steroids.

I also know a guy that got leukemia from taking them and now doctors say he has to actually stay on them to maintain testosterone levels.

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

Yep. I mean don't get me wrong there are some people who are just freaks strength wise. There is a guy I know who is only a little bit bigger than me but lifts almost 2 and a half times as much on some machines. I also know a guy who is 58 and lifts 450 pounds on the bench press. He has been on steroids for half his life due to being a former bouncer but he said when he was 17 when he first started the gym he was a natural and could lift 280 back then.

As for getting ripped and increasing actual muscle very fast though e.g. The Rock or Zac Efron = 100% steroids.

Zac Efron probably has some of the best hair genetics on the planet. Perfect low thick Nw0 hairline from birth. And even after hitting hard drugs for years at most he's lost maybe 1-2 cm at the corners and doesn't even seem to be progressing from there.

Insane. Especially for a white guy.

Usually the only guys that can do that are Chinese guys like Mike chang, squattin casanova or frank yang.

So many Chinese guys get incredible hair genetics.

 

[Figthcel]

Regarding steroids, I know a manlet, who has really gotten into bodybuilding and with steroids managed to achieve quite something.

At that point, I just think that if you are unhappy with your life and you are looking for chances to improve it, steroids could be one of those chances.

Sometimes you need to take a risk or even take losses in order to at least have a chance to be happy Better than just LDAR ?

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

Regarding steroids, I know a manlet, who has really gotten into bodybuilding and with steroids managed to achieve quite something.

At that point, I just think that if you are unhappy with your life and you are looking for chances to improve it, steroids could be one of those chances.

Sometimes you need to take a risk or even take losses in order to at least have a chance to be happy Better than just LDAR ?

I actually tried testosterone injections but my hair started shedding like crazy so I stopped. Not counting Chinese people probably 70% of us have balding genetics so playing with steroids is playing with massive fire.

This is the sick nature of life. You can't even find a way to cheat what nature gives you because everything you try comes at a potentially bigger cost somewhere else.

 

[Welcumtotherealworld]

But is close to everything. Main benefit of gymcelling is leaning out your face and giving you a better leaner frame, moreso than gaining muscle and strength.

No fucking no and fucking no. Igor can still get a nice wife.

 

[Figthcel]

I actually tried testosterone injections but my hair started shedding like crazy so I stopped. Not counting Chinese people probably 70% of us have balding genetics so playing with steroids is playing with massive fire.

This is the sick nature of life. You can't even find a way to cheat what nature gives you because everything you try comes at a potentially bigger cost somewhere else.

Yea it is frustrating.

I am trying to find other copes than gym, but it is all hard. Even making money.

I still hope I have some talents that I can use.

 

[June3cel2]

No fucking no and fucking no. Igor can still get a nice wife.

Who is Igor mayne?

 

[Welcumtotherealworld]

Who is Igor mayne?

Typical big strong polish man with potato face but gets away with it because of his strength.

 

[PleaseKillMeLoseSkin]

Get your T checked muh dude and stop drinking faucet water

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

No fucking no and fucking no. Igor can still get a nice wife.

I'd fucking kill to be some big strong guy. Must feel amazing.