It really doesn't matter if you're objectively right or wrong in terms of how others will treat you and/or respond to your stating X position. What matters regarding that is simply the social norm/default position where you live for example.
For example, if I go into some backwoods African tribe where they believe in the great JuJu under the Mountain for their religion, it's probably gonna be irrelevant to the vast majority of them if someone goes in and explains how and why their belief is irrational. Anyone that would do such a thing is likely to be shunned and shamed and assumed incorrect by most there odds are and this is something you can apply in general to most groups and topics has been my observation.
Blackpill science/studies are a great example of this where the vast majority of western countries and their populace actively believe delusions/things that just aren't true when it comes to sex/relationships/popularity and rejection, success (etc), but there are other things too such as the modern mass view on transgerism bullshit (no, a transwoman is not in fact a woman -- not unless you loosen and alter the definition so much that it no longer resembles itself) or even some of the takes regarding Floyd and all that jazz.
My point being that just because one holds the same exact positions as everyone else in their group, this doesn't actually mean they're correct. Yet people assume that it does and the moment the majority position is challenged everybody pulls a Le Reddit moment and lobs Ad Hom bombs like there's no tomorrow. It's all so tiresome.
That whole expression that goes, "You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into to begin with" makes more sense to me as time goes on. People just aren't worth arguing with -- they don't care about what's true, for most if not all of us, reason is just a tool for meeting emotional needs and by nature perhaps we're rationalizing not rational.
It's exhausting being made to feel like crap just because I don't agree with mainstream view X and hold a different position on Z or Y than the majority in my country for example. You can never reveal said positions publicly either for fear of being scorned and treated like dogshit (you can literally get fired where I live just for not towing the status quo line/saying something too controversial lol). I seem to hold a lot of minority positions relative to the mainstream on things where I end up constantly questioning myself since everyone is always insisting that my own observations and reasoning are incorrect (or even "monstrous"). But the thing is, those in the majority view don't seem to do that as often -- because their views are never challenged since everyone mostly agrees and espouses that same view publicly seems to me. Just because you hold the same position as everybody around you doesn't mean that it's the correct one. There are definitely cases where the truth is very unpopular and only acknowledged by a relative few.
For example, if I go into some backwoods African tribe where they believe in the great JuJu under the Mountain for their religion, it's probably gonna be irrelevant to the vast majority of them if someone goes in and explains how and why their belief is irrational. Anyone that would do such a thing is likely to be shunned and shamed and assumed incorrect by most there odds are and this is something you can apply in general to most groups and topics has been my observation.
Blackpill science/studies are a great example of this where the vast majority of western countries and their populace actively believe delusions/things that just aren't true when it comes to sex/relationships/popularity and rejection, success (etc), but there are other things too such as the modern mass view on transgerism bullshit (no, a transwoman is not in fact a woman -- not unless you loosen and alter the definition so much that it no longer resembles itself) or even some of the takes regarding Floyd and all that jazz.
My point being that just because one holds the same exact positions as everyone else in their group, this doesn't actually mean they're correct. Yet people assume that it does and the moment the majority position is challenged everybody pulls a Le Reddit moment and lobs Ad Hom bombs like there's no tomorrow. It's all so tiresome.
That whole expression that goes, "You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into to begin with" makes more sense to me as time goes on. People just aren't worth arguing with -- they don't care about what's true, for most if not all of us, reason is just a tool for meeting emotional needs and by nature perhaps we're rationalizing not rational.
It's exhausting being made to feel like crap just because I don't agree with mainstream view X and hold a different position on Z or Y than the majority in my country for example. You can never reveal said positions publicly either for fear of being scorned and treated like dogshit (you can literally get fired where I live just for not towing the status quo line/saying something too controversial lol). I seem to hold a lot of minority positions relative to the mainstream on things where I end up constantly questioning myself since everyone is always insisting that my own observations and reasoning are incorrect (or even "monstrous"). But the thing is, those in the majority view don't seem to do that as often -- because their views are never challenged since everyone mostly agrees and espouses that same view publicly seems to me. Just because you hold the same position as everybody around you doesn't mean that it's the correct one. There are definitely cases where the truth is very unpopular and only acknowledged by a relative few.
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