Chimera Ant must have been agonising back in the day.
even if he comes back he'll just drop like 10 chapters of NPCs fighting with Nen Beasts, Kurapika wasting more time on bodyguard work, and chrollo looking for hisoka. that's where we've been for like 10 years.
togashi would need to switch to light novels for any hope of it finishing
There are some works that won't ever be finished, HxH being one of them. Gave up a long time ago
Imagine 10-20 more years of dripfeed only for the climax to be a flop.
Kurapika climax is all I need, Gyro and Dark Continent will prolly be flops. Maybe Dark Continent might be interesting if Melody gets her curse cured
his personal investment is no longer there it's genuinely impossible for him to maintain quality at this point (see Yu Yu Hakusho).
Yeah he just dosn't care anymore. Same with miura albeit he had other problems like perfectionism as well. Their series are already so fucking old coupled with the fact that they're also older, have other commitmets and the drive is no longer there.
I wonder why he dosn't just come out and say 'guys i don't really want to do HxH anymore, bye'. Because at this point it's not even funny. It's a pain to wait for chapters, i followed the series for a while but at some point i just could not be bothered anymore
I was also hyped for Kurapika's next chance at being the protagonist but the quality of the prince succession arc is leagues below that of the phantom troupe arc.
as evidenced by the significant quality drop observed in all chapters taking place after hisoka vs chrollo.
I’m in FUD over the recent 10 chapters but it seemed fine until then. Hisoka vs Chrollo was boring IMO
imo Berserk died after the Lost Children's Arc (featuring Jill). There were some decent berserker armor moments after and lots of gore but the actual plot pretty much stopped moving and became generic formulaic fantasy slop.
hisoka vs chrollo was the beginning of a new character arc for hisoka where he decided to become an avengER, making him a possible ally to kurapika (having their paths cross once more). togashi can't write politics so he shouldn't have tried so fucking hard.
Let's be honest, at that point we hardly cared about the plot. At the very least i didn't i just wanted to see what would happen when Guts encountered griffit again. Did you check the latest chapters? They are now done by Mori, Miura's best friend, He's an amazing mangaka with good works like Holyland and Suicide island
I would love to tell you that you'll get it, but i lost count on the dissapointments caused by mangakas at this point
I cared for the plot above all else which is why I think half of berserk is disgustingly overrated.
A bit. Guts has been MIA for like 2 years now so it's hard to care. The pacing in berserk post-lost children's arc is actual ass.
The current arc is phenomenal with the FFA situation. The way things are going the whole ship is going to sink and it will be a massive bloodshed with every human on that ship fighting their way to the top.
There's some progress going on, I wonder who he was looking for on the phone?
Dude is cooked. His mortal enemies are on the ship, he's teaching potentially dangerous randoms Nen, and he's also a bodyguard jockey target.
I don't feel like it's overrated, what dark fantasy would you consider that's as good or better? There's hardly anything comparable in the same genre and berserk dosn't pull any punches, it's wretched, sad and depressing. If i have any complains it's that it's waay too depressing at times, like come on sometimes there should be some sunshine.
There's a bit of an interesting development in the latest chapters, half the fanbase consider it murder and the other saw it coming. personally i really liked it
I guess with Succession War is, while the Chimera Ants were main threat and focus of the arc so the characterisation of each ant helped to contribute to the plot in Succession War I care more about Kurapika finding Tserridnich + the Troupe. IDC about kakin princes/mafia leaders and their goons killing each other much.hisoka vs chrollo was the beginning of a new character arc for hisoka where he decided to become an avengER, making him a possible ally to kurapika (having their paths cross once more). togashi can't write politics so he shouldn't have tried so fucking hard.
Yes it’s important but it’s like the mafia stuff Kurapika undertook in Yorknew, imagine if Yorknew was just nonstop mafia yapping politics with nothing interesting happening for dozens of chapters. But at the same time, it’s probably a setup for a glorious massacre that will pave the way for Kurapika to die in epic manner
Golden Age had pacing issues IMO. The thing is with Berserk is IDK if it had a direction to begin with, it started off as aimless demon hunting then a backstory then back to aimless demon hunting. Golden Age story was basically Guts slaughtering humans instead of demons + added character drama.
Miura seemed to just make it up as he went along. Tbh I never found the story or characters to be particularly good but the art was consistently fire up until like mid Fantasia. The transition to digital art was so rough
This is the problem. the show escalated too much he introduced like 50 new characters at the same time. when the scale's that big it's hard to care.The current arc is phenomenal with the FFA situation. The way things are going the whole ship is going to sink and it will be a massive bloodshed with every human on that ship fighting their way to the top.
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There's some progress going on, I wonder who he was looking for on the phone?
Dude is cooked. His mortal enemies are on the ship, he's teaching potentially dangerous randoms Nen, and he's also a bodyguard jockey target.
I could care less about nen beasts and curses tbh. The new characters are fine. I just hope we actually get to the Dark Continent and not beat around the bush.
ur right there's not much out there and I can't think of anything but u don't have to be a chef to know when your food's plain. I find a lot of the characters boring (sorpio, the kid, ppl on griffith's side, etc) and that too much screentime is wasted on pointless mobs fights.
im probably like 2-3 chapters behind.
Depressed gatsu?
I think the GA arc was fine. the gut's being the 100 man slayer thing and meeting casca was all setup for the betrayal scene and rise of femto (since the things guts achieved here filled griffith with envy and greed, making it easier for him to sacrifice the whole band).
this was criminal. reminds me of d gray man's art change but 100x worse.
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Yeah secondary characters suck ass, i like the mage girl and the nun but other than those 2 the others who gives a shit.
Yeah, this one. I think it makes perfect sense, but a lot of ppl were mad about it
ahhh I already know about that. to me it felt out of character.
After thinking about it yeah. Seems like a generic development but atp Miura is long dead so at least we’re getting something
I felt like it made perfect sense, i mean what was he supposed to do at that point? He's a human at the end of the day and no matter what he does he always loses, it's like he's an incel and he strives for stacy's affection but chad always comes and bangs her.
Better something than nothing for sure, i just want to see how it ends
guts was conveyed as a character who'd never go down without a fight. a couple hours or days of mourning his terribly one-sided defeat would be fine but guts LDARing like we do feels like character assassination to me.
I feel like it makes sense, he was already half dead, tired with grey hairs all over his skull and the only reliable ally he had was his sword, all his journey from the eclipse to where he get and he couldnt do anything.guts was conveyed as a character who'd never go down without a fight. a couple hours or days of mourning his terribly one-sided defeat would be fine but guts LDARing like we do feels like character assassination to me.
He's presenting something that's very human, which is despair. Something we did not ever see, but it feels warranted in this particular situation. At the end of the day guts it's not Sung jinwho, the aura farmer. He's a human, with humanlike goals and human emotions.
I did not like one bit what happened as i said, it's waay too depressing. But how he feels afterwards seems very relatable and i expect his friends to lift him back up, he already carried hard all of berserk. So there should be some meaning to the connections he made post eclipse
guts is not very human tho. the author can't just backpaddle on this now. guts was the living embodiment of vengeance and his carnal rage has always far surpassed his feelings of despair. I don't think it's a coincidence that guts changed to this extent the moment miura croaked.
He has quite a few inhumane characteristics, that's for sure. But after the eclipse the mood of the manga shifted, from a being of vengeance guts went to the far ends of the earth to cure casca. Thus changings his ultimate goal of vengeance to saving the one he loves, thus we can see how he underwent a character development in those chapters.
He's not how he was once before.
How would you have dealt with the blow of not being able to do anything to your worst enemy? What do you think would have been a better response? I can't really find what i would be able to do if that was the case, i know he's the struggler. But with the panels before we already see how battered and tired he already is, thus the response seems in tune with the chapters before.
If this was pre-eclipse or start eclipse then sure, he would've reacted as everyone would've liked.
How would you have preffered those sequence of chapters to go?
even considering all that gut's was a man of indomitable will. that metal scene where guts faces all of the god hand without any allies while forsaking his own arm just to get an inch closer to fight an impossible fight with his bare hand conveys that aspect of his character extremely well. this is not the first time guts was so powerless he didn't have any allies, a berserker armor, or a skull knight buddy to give him tips upon his first encounter with femto (and the whole fucking god hand). if Griffith stole his girl all the more reason not to despair. he could carry out his revenge at any pace but what's going to happen to casca (gangbang with the god hand this time)?
despair for a couple chapters then get his shit together. maybe witch loli could've help him up after 2 chapters of wallowing in self-pity.
Yes, but it's the first time he's truly and utterly powerless to do anything. First time he was powerless was in the eclipse and after getting the berserk armor, fighting countless demons and improving his swordsmanship it all resulted in being unable to touch griffith, i think it makes sense to get a little depressed.
At this point in time, what he fought against were monsters that could be cut down and bishops, but they all bled. It's the first time he can't push it thru like he did all of the other times, different it would have been if he lost but at least did some form of damage to griffon.
Literally his dragonslayer bounced of like nothing, he was utterly and completely powerless.
He lost her once, faced the worst of phisical tortures being hunted by demons 24/7, forsaken his revenge in the pursuit of restoring her sanity. And after doing all that the dude comes and steals her again right in front of his face, guts being unable to even touch him with his sword and re-enacts the eclipse all over again.
At that point i felt it too, his effort was truly for nothing.
He prolly will, but that's why it all makes more sense for him to be depresso for a little while. I mean, it's understandable.
always took guts for the die fighting type. he really just doesn't feel like guts without the tenacity. reminds me of when ichigo stood his ground against ulquiorra knowing he'd die 100%, never cowering and always smiling....
just to become a total bitch in the face of a 3rd rate villain.
He totally is, it's just that he has to save casca first. Which he can't due to a certain obsessed femboy ex gfalways took guts for the die fighting type. he really just doesn't feel like guts without the tenacity. reminds me of when ichigo stood his ground against ulquiorra knowing he'd die 100%, never cowering and always smiling....
just to become a total bitch in the face of a 3rd rate villain.
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At this point I just want Togashi alive bro, please just spoil us the end of HxH
Hunterchads, it's over
Dark continent is shit true. But Gyro? Nah man I'm here for Gyro. Dude sounds like a legit based villain. I hope we see more of him. Kurapika and phantam troupe arcs are still priorities though.
I really like the succession arc for its political intricacy and strategic complexity; Togashi went full Game of Thrones on this one. But yeah the pacing is horribly slow and there are wayyyy too many irrelevant characters.
Yeah that's why I think it's generic. He could've given up at any point in his life, why now? He's usually powerless to watch people he cares about suffer and never really accomplishes anything meaningful on his own while constantly experiencing pure agony, so this should be another tuesday to him. The way he reacted is like how a typical hotheaded driven protagonist would.
Tbh it's about the execution which Togashi has proven to be good at. But I doubt he'll keep it up, all manga will eventually crash out is pretty much law. With Gyro arc you obviously have the interactions between him and his reincarnated servants to look forward to and Welfin is a well written character so hopefully he puts in the work necessary to make the arc peak. However the Troupe are gone and Meteor City have shown themselves to be complete fodder without them (when that boobies ant bitch attacked them) so there's not much hype on that end. Also realistically Gyro arc is never happening unless Togashi passes his script down to another mangaka. And we can't guarantee we'll live another hour let alone the decades it will take to get there.
Depends on what you mean by irrelevant. It makes sense to develop Tserriednich's goons considering Tserriednich has what Kurapika is looking for and will most likely be a direct antagonist to him. But even then all we know about his goons is that they want him gone, nothing to really work with like hidden connections to other factions or personal lives/personalities to push them towards catching Tserriednich or towards their demise. It seems the Kakin princes are more like props/fodder designed to feed into the storyline rather than the storyline revolving around them which is good, the problem is we have yet to see any big payoffs and as you said with the current pacing it could take decades to see something big happen.
So basically all these newly introduced characters are just tools/fodder used to pop off crazy events which will hopefully involve the Troupe, Kurapika, Pariston (I need to know his endgame) and Melody (she's cool but will probably get shafted lol) at the centre of it. If Togashi manages to bring that Yorknew/Chimera Ant energy to this current arc expect further yapping between NPC and intrigue with not much movement until the final third which will presumably be a wild ride beyond anything we've seen yet with Requiem level massacres and Gon vs Pitou/'... Komugi?' type payoffs happening every chapter. But again, Togashi is human so this most likely won't happen.
Even if the storyline successfully lands every payoff, said payoffs may end up shafting the characters we actually care about and fail to develop/challenge them to instead prioritise the Kakin/mafia.
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I can't take it anymore
White took over and raped ulquiorra in 4 minutesalways took guts for the die fighting type. he really just doesn't feel like guts without the tenacity. reminds me of when ichigo stood his ground against ulquiorra knowing he'd die 100%, never cowering and always smiling....
just to become a total bitch in the face of a 3rd rate villain.
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