Discussion Has inceldom risen in the past 12 years due to smartphones, dating apps, social media, or are men just becoming volcels?

[Personalityinkwell]

That's from 2018, and you saw how it was rising rapidly, my guess is that it's around a third at this point, (maybe even more).

So what is the cause for less and less men getting sex? They just would rather browse memes on facebook than fulfill their biological purpose?

 

[Transcended Trucel]

volcel is meme. very few volcels

 

[UKhapacel]

If you think not wanting to fuck a landwhsle with no self-discipline is volcel, then sure volcels have increased. But realistically average men are unable to get average slim foids

 

[EyesAreSoCold]

Millions of men simultaneously just lost interest in sex around 2008.

 

[Cowcel]

It's due to dating apps and social media since that's what has made women so picky daters.

 

[Hate_my_life]

Millions of men simultaneously just lost interest in sex around 2008.

And they'd rather watch video games and play porn supposedly

 

[ReturnOfSaddam]

That just seems crazy that it was as low as 8% in 2008. That's the sort of number it should be though, or at least closer to it. It's basically a third now and likely much higher.

The world ha changed massively though with all the pansexual tranny SJW shit.

 

[Uglymuggly]

And they'd rather watch video games and play porn supposedly

Jfl

 

[Deleted member 27159]

Almost nobody is a volcel. It’s just that foid hypergamy has increased drastically

 

[BraincelsRefugee]

absolutely it's risen. I'd guess 35-40% of males are incel now

 

[Jazzcel]

volcel is meme. very few volcels

This. If you gave a hot girl to any vocel, no strings attached, they wouldn't be a vocel after a few hours.

 

[Iwanttolive]

Millions of men simultaneously just lost interest in sex around 2008.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

This. If you gave a hot girl to any vocel, no strings attached, they wouldn't be a vocel after a few hours.

@Edmund_Kemper thoughts?

 

[pyromancer1234]

It's the former. As the dating scene becomes globalized and less geographically disjoint, inequality increases due to the same hypergamy in a larger pool size.

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

Hypergamy is nothing new. Literally any boomercel says that it was the same a few decades ago. Also, iPhones didn’t get popular until the early 2010s. According to graph, it started skyrocketing a bit before tinder in 2012.

also half of single men say they don’t feel like being in a relationship. They aren’t coping.Many men don’t crave sex as much as we do. Most men are so addicted to social media and YouTube and internet memes that they refuse to talk to people and thus are isolated

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Hypergamy is nothing new. Literally any boomercel says that it was the same a few decades ago. Also, iPhones didn’t get popular until the early 2010s. According to graph, it started skyrocketing a bit before tinder in 2012.

also half of single men say they don’t feel like being in a relationship. They aren’t coping.Many men don’t crave sex as much as we do. Most men are so addicted to social media and YouTube and internet memes that they refuse to talk to people and thus are isolated

This. If you gave a hot girl to any vocel, no strings attached, they wouldn't be a vocel after a few hours.

adress that @Edmund_Kemper

 

[HeroinNihilism]

Looks theory has always existed but smartphones and dating apps blew it up.

 

[Dregster]

@Edmund_Kemper thoughts?

Kys

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Kys

excuse me?

 

[GoffSystemQB]

Millions of men simultaneously just lost interest in sex around 2008.

That's how absurd it sounds tbh, the existence of this forum and others in itself is proof that the problem is growing. I do not think in the 20th century there were many incel town hall meetings but maybe that's just me.

I think it is quite bluepilled to believe that social media did not make people far more superficial, shallow, and that the efficiency of dating apps didn't leave men behind. Let alone the modern changes in society such as young women making more than men and the value of wealth being reduced drastically as a factor.

Hypergamy is nothing new. Literally any boomercel says that it was the same a few decades ago. Also, iPhones didn’t get popular until the early 2010s. According to graph, it started skyrocketing a bit before tinder in 2012.

also half of single men say they don’t feel like being in a relationship. They aren’t coping.Many men don’t crave sex as much as we do. Most men are so addicted to social media and YouTube and internet memes that they refuse to talk to people and thus are isolated

With all due respect many of them can be classed as extreme mentalcels at least in how they are now. Whether that mental damage was the cause of their inceldom or result of it is up for debate. There are many boomercels on here who were not coherent in the slightest...

Autists were fucked pre-OLD if anything OLD has actually helped them probably the same for many non-NT people.

 

[Uglymuggly]

absolutely it's risen. I'd guess 35-40% of males are incel now

Hypergamy is nothing new. Literally any boomercel says that it was the same a few decades ago. Also, iPhones didn’t get popular until the early 2010s. According to graph, it started skyrocketing a bit before tinder in 2012.

also half of single men say they don’t feel like being in a relationship. They aren’t coping.Many men don’t crave sex as much as we do. Most men are so addicted to social media and YouTube and internet memes that they refuse to talk to people and thus are isolated

Jfl boomercels don’t know what the fuck they are talking about and what is this cope about how men don’t crave sex

 

[Dregster]

excuse me?

 

[your personality]

If you think not wanting to fuck a landwhsle with no self-discipline is volcel, then sure volcels have increased. But realistically average men are unable to get average slim foids

It's the former. As the dating scene becomes globalized and less geographically disjoint, inequality increases due to the same hypergamy in a larger pool size.

 

[Strong One]

I do believe smartphones had something to do with the rise of inceldom. Smartphones made the internet more accessible, before the only reason you'd want internet was if you had a computer which people today have more smartphones than computers.

The internet made it easier to get in touch with people from anywhere, this alongside the increase of accessibility made it easier for women to find Chad.

 

[metabuxx]

volcel is meme. very few volcels

 

[Kurt Gödel]

Facebook also made it easy for women to friend and private message Chad, without being exclusively a dating app.

 

[EyesAreSoCold]

Hypergamy is nothing new. Literally any boomercel says that it was the same a few decades ago. Also, iPhones didn’t get popular until the early 2010s. According to graph, it started skyrocketing a bit before tinder in 2012.

Every single incel here has a father who had sex. All my uncles had sex and got married. My dad got his first gf when he was 12.

also half of single men say they don’t feel like being in a relationship. They aren’t coping.Many men don’t crave sex as much as we do. Most men are so addicted to social media and YouTube and internet memes that they refuse to talk to people and thus are isolated

Thats why every girl online gets thousands of orbiters and can make money out of being around men on the internet, and why many memes depicts sexual frustration and loneliness.

There is no man, except maybe the 1% that is allegedly asexual but even they would want company, that is so "addicted to social media and memes" that he doesn't bother having sex. Being excessively on the internet is a cope for when you can't have sex.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

volcel is meme. very few volcels

 

[MaxZM98]

idk man i guess men just dont wanna have sex anymore. i feel bad for women because it must be hard for them to find a boyfriend given how many men choose to remain virgins. this data says it all...

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

Nobody here has proven that most men are incels.

the percent of incel men is NOT 35-40%. It’s much lower. If only 28% of young men below 30 havent fucked since age 18 and yet only 12.6% of 26 year olds are virgins, then they clearly fucked in hs before the early (or mid) 2010s. Back before social media made most men too lazy to get up and find a gf. And you can’t say it is still skyrocketing to 40% because that’s a hypothetical argument with NO evidence.

and also stop saying “but if volcels were given the chance to fuck a hot girl they won’t resist”. It’s like saying that if we were given a million dollars we wouldn’t resist but that doesn’t mean most people are trying to become super rich.Half of single men literally said they choose to be single, and don’t say “but that’s cope” because it isn’t. Not all men crave sex. And the only reason this forum is barely popular (20000 members isn’t popular) is because of the media talking about it. Incel forums existed in the 2000s too, before tinder. Sub5 men were always incel. It’s nothing new. And stop saying “boomercels are lying because they’re boomers” because that identity fallacy doesn’t work and you can’t generalize boomers like that. Zoomers aren’t that smart themselves. And notice how all the 30+ incels here were still incel.

most people don’t use tinder. And guess what? Many tinder users say they don’t even use it to get dates, they just use it to boost confidence.

most men are just so addicted to social media and internet memes and forums and watching youtube videos all day to the point where they can’t get off their phone and go out and find a gf. That’s what causes them to be celibate. It’s no coincidence that men starting fucking less when social media took over in the early 2010s. In the 2000s people used internet in moderation

 

[Personalityinkwell]

yet only 12.6% of 26 year olds are virgins

prove this using recent data

most men are just so addicted to social media and internet memes and forums and watching youtube videos all day to the point where they can’t get off their phone and go out and find a gf.

well if they are truly addicted, then that's just mentalceldom, which is still legit incel

 

[Neggr]

Volcels obviously

 

[Deleted member 26884]

Almost nobody is a volcel. It’s just that foid hypergamy has increased drastically

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

prove this using recent data

well if they are truly addicted, then that's just mentalceldom, which is still legit incel

It’s data from 2018. Also addiction isn’t true mentalceldom. A person can simply get off their phone and talk to people. Unlike mental illness, which makes it difficult if you’re sub8

 

[grondilu]

most men are just so addicted to social media and internet memes and forums and watching youtube videos all day to the point where they can’t get off their phone and go out and find a gf. That’s what causes them to be celibate. It’s no coincidence that men starting fucking less when social media took over in the early 2010s. In the 2000s people used internet in moderation

You may be right, though I don't like the way you seem to insinuate that finding a gf is as simple as going out.

I would say instead that internet has become a form of entertainment which has supplanted social activities that used to provide a context favorable to the encounter of mating prospects.

I know, I sound pedantic, but I fucking hate the idea that to find a gf you just have to "go out". It's dumb AF. I've spent lots of time in my youth wandering aimlessly outside. If going out was the way to score, I would have slayed thousands of females.

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

Volcels obviously

Half of single men right now are volcels according to data. The rest probably had a gf in the past and are busy with other things. I bet 20 years ago it was the same thing, some men were dating and some were single but previously dating and will possibly date again later on

You may be right, though I don't like the way you seem to insinuate that finding a gf is as simple as going out.

I would say instead that internet has become a form of entertainment which has supplanted social activities that used to provide a context favorable to the encounter of mating prospects.

Most normies can go out and find someone. We can’t.

 

[Speedloader]

Millions of men simultaneously just lost interest in sex around 2008.