The money that incels could add to the sex market is a drop in the bucket, no a drop in the ocean
I disagree.
Incels are 100% of the sex market.
Chad doesn't waste his wealth on shit he can get for free.
I think by incels you mean "members of communities like incels.co" but the vast majority (99+%) of incels aren't in communities like this one.
They are the isolated and uncongregated silent bluepilled incel majority who don't identify as incel.
( I don't blame them tbh because it's an exaggerated label to begin with: we do make small voluntary contributions that very slightly affect our options)
Blackpilled incels are a smaller minority so if you just mean us then yeah that's a smaller % of the sex market.
But we shouldn't talk like BPICs are the only ICs
I won't starve myself of sex for the sake of my ego like you (and nor will any incel that operates based on logic and reasoning)
You can't logic/reason what appeals to you romantically, of course.
Abiding the law aside, I think the unromanticness of escorts is what always gives me mixed feeling about it.
Like doing it would truly break my heart and make me breakdown and rope.
Maybe I'm of harder stuff but I guess I lack confidence in my jadedness/blackpillness that I figure to escortcel would be to truly embrace blackpill and kill my inner bluepilled weaboo and cause emotional collapse.
In the future they'll say buying a sexbot means you're not an incel.
At some point they'll be right, once they can compete.
Like would you not consider it "ascension" to be Hideki and take Chii's virginity?
Cuck is used to describe acts and/or circumstances in which an individual allows self degradation, self deprecation and/or disenfranchisement to happen to them
This is the worst possible definition because "allows" misses the whole point: when you're cucked you're DECEIVED by an external party.
The traditional human application of cuckolded is when your wife fucks the milkman and you pay to feed her milkman babies thinking they're your babies.
It's derived from the non-cuckoo mommy birds victimized by cuckoo birds who swap out their eggs so the cuckoo moms don't have to do shit (just go fuck more male cuckoos and lay more eggs) while the non-cuckkoo moms waste energy sitting on the egg and feeding wormies to the cuckoo babies once they hatch.
If you're actively CHOOSING to be degraded/deprecated/disenfranchised then that's SETTLING not "being cucked".
At best the analogy only works if we view it as something like "you were tricked into thinking you ought to settle" or "you were tricked into thinking these choices aren't settling".
But if done to excess this overlooks our own autonomy and sense of agency.
Deciding to date a non-virgin GF doesn't mean you necessarily think "this is just as good as a virgin" or "this is better than a virgin". You might well know it's not ideal, but still choose to do it. That's not cucked.
IE if someone tricks you into thinking bologna are as healthy/tasty as steak so you just eat nothing but bologna, that's being cucked.
But if you just decide to buy bologna because it's still moderately tasty (better than bread) and more affordable and easy to prepare than steak (true) that's not cucked.
You're not deceived (you know steak would be better) you're just settling.
This is why people who work for minimum wage are referred to as "wagecucks", because they are "cucking themselves" by working so many hours and putting in so much effort just to make barely any money at all
Again no, that's not cucked, you can be pragmatic and do this if it's your only feasible option for getting money if that's what's important to you.
What's cucked is thinking stuff like "this is the only honorable way to live" or "I shouldn't take advantage of every possible break like bux/foodbanks to increase my wealth".
Or maybe even stuff like "I shouldn't commit crimes to make money". I'm too high-inhib and fearful of law/subculture to be something like a drug dealer but I sort of understand that mindset TBH: why care about protecting a society that scorns you? That's why shows like Breaking Bad were so popular, people understand the Walter White apathy and hatred.
This is why I would never go to a strip club, I would own a strip club to make money off of blue pilled simps, but never spend money at one
Why the hell would someone pay to have their engine started but not be allowed to drive
so you can fap to it later, I guess?
kind of like how people pay to look at porn or fund some hentai productions
I would go to a strip club if it were cheap and had nice girls, but in practice you either get cheap w/ ugly girls or expensive w/ nice ones
You see this pattern with prostitutes so again it's just a cost/benefit analysis to me.
Sometimes I wonder if that's what keeps me from moneymaxing to get a GF: how much disproportionate provision would I need to give consecutive foids until one stuck with me, and if that's the reason then why would I even feel special?
Even if a girl loved me for me (ie split 50% tabs on dates) there's still this need to jump through hoops and show your ability to earn wealth which will ultimately go for nought when she dumps you.
Like if it only costs me 5 dollars to shop for a meal but I need to pay 20 bucks for a meal at some fancy restaurant to "date" a girl several times and then she doesn't want to be with me: why did I waste my time/money to be humiliated?
Chad doesn'tt need these hoops: they just meet up on Tinder and fuck, no expensive meals needed: she probably cooks him eggs in the morning from her own supply.
MAYBE I would pay like 20$ to fuck a prime 16 year old, but I won't pay fucking 100$ to fuck a 25 year old roastie with beef curtains
This feels like a LARP, hundred for a girl in 20s sounds fine to me, but even that is still way under market price.
Also I'm really not understanding the whole beef curtains meme tbh: are you thinking that labia get thicker/longer from sex?
All I can figure is maybe this happens with the inner labia if they fuck very girthy cocks.
I don't really know if promiscuity naturally leads to that though because the chads girls fuck might have pretty average dick sizes that just feel larger because of a foids' arousal making her tissues firmer.
Plus often the service is extremely shit and you only get starfish sex.
couldn't you just instruct a prostitute "my service requires you wrap your limbs around me and pull me into you?"
if she wants repeat business she'll do it
obviously it'd feel jaded to ask for stuff like that because you hope she'll do it instinctively, because you're LARPing that she'll overcome her initial apathy and get aroused and enjoy the sex with you
Jfl if you think you get anything comparable to Chads experience where his foid is actively wet/blushing/staring in his eyes/other physical reactions during sex.
I sometimes wonder about this: wouldn't some girls be so enamored by Chad she'd be embarassed to look at him?
A big thing about eye contact appeal to me woul be that my virgin GF is shy about sex and doesn't want to look in my eyes (maybe I am also nervous about looking in hers) but as we get comfortable with each other we gradually look at each other more and more (fewer and briefer look-aways) until we have that soulful mutual stare going on of full acceptance and pseudotelepathy.
You get a watered down experience for twice the price. (well even more since he gets it for free 
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you can't divide by zero
also Chad tends to get sex for "better than free" because foids will do other things of service to reward him for fucking her, like cooking him dinner
Paying to have sex with whores is supporting whores financially and contributing to their degenerate lifestyle
Women will often lead degenerate lifestyles even if they aren't engaged in prostitution, so this seems like a broader discussion than just frequenting sex workers.
IE if you generously tip a cute waitress who sucks up to you and she goes home to take anal from a seires of gigachads, you're doing essentially the same thing.
The broader solution is just to stop orbiting women and sucking up to them and giving them inflated wages for ANY occupation. IE give them the same career fairness and equal opportunity as men, instead of preferential treatment.
TBH if a girl wants to fuck a dozen gigachads but is actually competent at her job I don't care about paying her well for it.
But that's with useful jobs, essential services.
90% of stuff like waitressing is probably "get your customers to oneitis for you" rather than stuff like "bring food promptly" which is largely the problem, women's dominance in the service industry and other "people" jobs.
it will always be more exciting to fuck a new foid than your wife or gf
I don't think that's true. If you had a 10/10 virgin GF you'd fucked a dozen times I think you'd still prefer to fuck her than some 6/10 roastie you meet on a subway
Novelty is the hook, that's why you don't fap to the same girl.
actually TBH for my fapping needs I tend to rotate back to a couple core stories (one manga, one written)
the vast majority of new foids in new stories don't really make enough of an impact to enter into my regular rotation
>sticks his dick into a hole that has been creampied thousands of times
>pays for it
>how am i a cuck
It's only cucked to be deceived into overvaluing it.
IE to think "ascending" is so important ("must lose my virginity") that you value a 1000x creampied pussy at 500 bucks or something like that.
If you were paying 1-5 dollars to fuck that the 1000x creampied hole, that'd seem reasonable and non-cucked though: it'd be cheaper than buying an onahole and be a more authentic hands-free experience.
What's cucked isn't the act of paying just embracing the inflation.
What's "cucked" is essentially only if you are SIMPing.
SIMPing is cucked because you are a victim of mental deception : "idolizing" the "mediocre" when you should only idolize the goddess virgin.
The only way to bring back chastity to both the sexes is to take away women's right to work, own property and vote, until that happens nothing you and i want or do will matter
I don't think that would guarantee anything because you'd still have cucked husbands whose wives fuck chad milkman
but maybe it would move things in a better direction because women who are less empowered with wealth lack the motility to seek chad out, so at least chad has to become a milkman to get access to house-locked pussy instead of wife driving the car over to chad's house
more effort to seek foids on the part of chad milkman at least lowers the amount of pussies he can defile in a single week because of the added travel time
Though I agree that paying for prostitution is necessary for sexless men, its still cucked (because you assume a submissive position) to pay for it
assuming a submissive submission is not cucked because you can do that with full informedness: it's only cucked if you can explain how you are deceived in some way
Basically it's only cucked if you are tricked into believing that the submissive position is ideal, tricked into believing that it's unacceptable to resent it and want more
Being a cuck implies being submissive, paying for eat meat isn't submissive, since you couldn't get easily if you tried to, you have no strenght to that, while you have enough strenght to get sex from a foid without having to pay
getting a meat is easy if you are a wealthy cattle rancher or chicken farmer though, you just kill your livestock
or get one of your servants to kill it for you, the servants who deal with the minutiae of raising livestock like feeding them and cleaning their poo
I don't think I understand your analogy about strength TBH.
It's submissive to pay to fuck women because we're strong enough to rape them?
I'm strong enouch to snap a chicken's neck, so by your logic it's cucked to purchase chicken tendies instead of murdering/plucking my own chicken.
Basically things we can accomplish can still be troublesome tasks so we pay for convenience.
Even in pre-society where you could do shit like rape women and not get punished for it, it was still a troublesome thing to do if you could get cooperative sex in exchange for giving her a bushel of apples.
We see this in a wide variety of simians:
Seriously, what the heck?
www.zmescience.com
one of the researchers, during the chaotic episode mentioned earlier, observed how one of the monkeys exchanged money with another for sex. After the act was over, the monkey which was paid immediately used it to buy a grape…
I don't really think it's "cucked of the capuchin" to give up a grape's worth of wealth to sex.
I realize it has more than a grape's value in this case (taking int oaccount size it's probably like sacrificing a watermelon or a whole bushel of grapes for one sex act) but if it's preferable/easier to exchange your grape and get consent than to rape the capucin girl then why shou ld I look down on capucincel for making that choice?
I already explained, you give power to them, you are being submissive, therefore a cuck, let alone that you are shotting your own foot by doing that.
Submissiveness is soy but not cucked.
You can be an entirely dominant and non-submissive guy who makes no compromises and still get cucked: Chadlite who doesn't SIMP for any girl can still get cucked by Gigachad.
Cucking is about deceiving: into misappropriating your resources because of misconceptions.
It's not merely choosing to settle for something less than the ultimate ideal, because 100% of men do this.
The ideal is you have an unlimited harem of virgins worshipping you and no man ever achieves this, so every man settles and submits to a lesser-than-ideal reality.
There's nothing cucked about that, it's just pragmatism.
Cucked is just when you convince yourself that the lesser reality is the best reality. It's intracucking if you convince yourself that to cope, and extracucking when external forcs convince you.
Ask yourself, Is it cucked to pay for a foid to satisfy my sexual needs, therefore giving her power over me and my money? In my opinion, yes, it is
The natural extension of this ridiculous attitude is that doing anything of value whatsoever for a foid is cucked.
IE you can't even say she's pretty because you're wasting effort talking to her instead of fucking her.
Hell it'd be cucked to take a dominant position in sex like missionary position because you're expending energy fucking her when she should be expending energy ufcking you (cowgirl).
If it's all about relativism then you could even say it's cucked to accept free sex from foids because to be the ultimate alpha-male of non-submission should mean all foids pay for the privilege of fucking you.
It's a silly purity spiral.
