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Blackpill [HARD TO SWALLOW EDITION] The worst thing that could happen to an incel is ascending

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When I have sex with a foid, it is never just me and the foid. There is always a third, imagined element. You look into the foid's eyes, and you imagine a gaze staring back at you. Sex is inherently exhibitionist.

Have you ever, in the middle of gooning to porn, stopped and wondered at the meaninglessness of the repetitive hand motion? In this moment, you have essentially broken the spell of fantasy. Fantasy is a structure that directs our desire towards a desired object. It distances ourself from the brutal meaninglessness of reality by structuring our world and our relation to the object so that the object is perceived as more than just for its material aspects. Central to the incel fantasy is the object of the foid. Our fantasy teaches us to desire foids not just for their bodies, but for the way we imagine they will make us feel.

Our lacking needs that we hope the object of our desire to fulfill is a medium by which fantasy orients itself, providing a foundation for desire that protects us from lack itself. This is how fantasy fills in the gaps of reality with fabricated coherence and unity, fulfilling the fundamental lack of social reality. One example of this is how the fantasy of a gf bridges the disconnect between outward behavior and inner thoughts and feelings. Often people who want a romantic relationship talk about the sense of belonging, being inwardly esteemed by another person, and being loved. However, there is no signifier in the world of appearances that the object of a foid can use to definitevely convey any of these (a point I developed in another thread). Another example is the impossibility of "love" itself: when we love someone, we only love them so much as they conform to our fantasy of them.

Ultimately, it is our fantasies themselves which offer an escape from this contradiction of social reality. It's not the desired object itself, it's the dream of us attaining it which makes us believe that attainment is a possibility. The enjoyment we would get from a gf (belonging, estimation, love) is impossible. One way that incels try to repress this idea is by projecting the dream of attainment onto an imagined other - chad - that enjoys the desired object in ways we can't experience but only imagine.

Freud says that a dream come true is a nightmare. Our fantasies create separation between us and the brutal meaninglessness of reality. When these are realized, it means we can no longer desire them. It's commonly talked about here how much foids fantasize about rape, but then when they are actually raped, they act like it's the worst thing in the world. It's not because they're retarded (they are retarded tho) but that in reality they can no longer manipulate how they imagine they will feel, and thus they are subject to the horrors of reality. When reality becomes too brutal, we escape to a world of our fantasies. But what is even worse is when our fantasies become too brutal, we can only escape by descending back to reality.
 
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Brutal sperg rant
 
at this point nothing is hard to swallow
 
read like half but agree
 
I completely agree with this.
 
When I have sex with a foid, it is never just me and the foid. There is always a third, imagined element. You look into the foid's eyes, and you imagine a gaze staring back at you. Sex is inherently exhibitionist.

Have you ever, in the middle of gooning to porn, stopped and wondered at the meaninglessness of the repetitive hand motion? In this moment, you have essentially broken the spell of fantasy. Fantasy is a structure that directs our desire towards a desired object. It distances ourself from the brutal meaninglessness of reality by structuring our world and our relation to the object so that the object is perceived as more than just for its material aspects. Central to the incel fantasy is the object of the foid. Our fantasy teaches us to desire foids not just for their bodies, but for the way we imagine they will make us feel.

Our lacking needs that we hope the object of our desire to fulfill is a medium by which fantasy orients itself, providing a foundation for desire that protects us from lack itself. This is how fantasy fills in the gaps of reality with fabricated coherence and unity, fulfilling the fundamental lack of social reality. One example of this is how the fantasy of a gf bridges the disconnect between outward behavior and inner thoughts and feelings. Often people who want a romantic relationship talk about the sense of belonging, being inwardly esteemed by another person, and being loved. However, there is no signifier in the world of appearances that the object of a foid can use to definitevely convey any of these (a point I developed in another thread). Another example is the impossibility of "love" itself: when we love someone, we only love them so much as they conform to our fantasy of them.

Ultimately, it is our fantasies themselves which offer an escape from this contradiction of social reality. It's not the desired object itself, it's the dream of us attaining it which makes us believe that attainment is a possibility. The enjoyment we would get from a gf (belonging, estimation, love) is impossible. One way that incels try to repress this idea is by projecting the dream of attainment onto an imagined other - chad - that enjoys the desired object in ways we can't experience but only imagine.

Freud says that a dream come true is a nightmare. Our fantasies create separation between us and the brutal meaninglessness of reality. When these are realized, it means we can no longer desire them. It's commonly talked about here how much foids fantasize about rape, but then when they are actually raped, they act like it's the worst thing in the world. It's not because they're retarded (they are retarded tho) but that in reality they can no longer manipulate how they imagine they will feel, and thus they are subject to the horrors of reality. When reality becomes too brutal, we escape to a world of our fantasies. But what is even worse is when our fantasies become too brutal, we can only escape by descending back to reality.
Read every damn word
 
imagined other - chad -
How are they imagined? Chads are real.
when they are actually raped, they act like it's the worst thing in the world.
Well yes, that is because the concept of rape in inherently relative. It is entirely dependant on whether or not the man is attractive (good looking). If an ugly man has unconsentual sex with a woman, then it's rape. If it's a Chad, it's not rape.;
Brutal sperg rant
 
Goood point, ascension is often not ascension
 
Have you ever, in the middle of gooning to porn, stopped and wondered at the meaninglessness of the repetitive hand motion? In this moment, you have essentially broken the spell of fantasy.
I distinctly remember this happening when I was younger and first started escortmaxxing
I think it's just when it is that new (or not new in the case of fapping) that it becomes absurd

The notion of skipping directly to sex with someone you just met IS kind of absurd though
At some point I became able to relate with them rather than just fucking and blocking out the awkwardness

Fantasy is a structure that directs our desire towards a desired object. It distances ourself from the brutal meaninglessness of reality by structuring our world and our relation to the object so that the object is perceived as more than just for its material aspects.
True and this is what oneitis really is at the extreme end
You fall in love with your own imagination and the actual foid is just a prop

Ultimately, it is our fantasies themselves which offer an escape from this contradiction of social reality.
I mean, sure but I don't think this is considered healthy
Creating an imaginary world, especially at a young age, is a behavior associated with serial killers

Freud says that a dream come true is a nightmare
I mean there is the possibility of real life not measuring up to your expectations
But the fact is a dream come true is more about comfort and security rather than a constant high

If you've ever taken opioids you'll understand what I mean
Opioids are a direct shortcut to the pleasure centers of your brain

There is typically a 'spike' of pleasure, especially if you are taking strong stuff
But eventually that plateaus and what comes after is really just a sense of peace and comfort

When reality becomes too brutal, we escape to a world of our fantasies. But what is even worse is when our fantasies become too brutal, we can only escape by descending back to reality.
I think the goal is shaping reality to match your imagination which is a long, dedicated processes
Gymcels will relate
 
I think the goal is shaping reality to match your imagination which is a long, dedicated processes
This is something that everybody does, both consciously and unconsciously. Ultimately it just falls into the same problem as I detailed in the OP. The problem is that there is no reality abstracted from your imagination. The goal is to find reality in the imagined world.
 
In the end, ascending for what?
 
When I have sex with a foid, it is never just me and the foid. There is always a third, imagined element. You look into the foid's eyes, and you imagine a gaze staring back at you. Sex is inherently exhibitionist.

Have you ever, in the middle of gooning to porn, stopped and wondered at the meaninglessness of the repetitive hand motion? In this moment, you have essentially broken the spell of fantasy. Fantasy is a structure that directs our desire towards a desired object. It distances ourself from the brutal meaninglessness of reality by structuring our world and our relation to the object so that the object is perceived as more than just for its material aspects. Central to the incel fantasy is the object of the foid. Our fantasy teaches us to desire foids not just for their bodies, but for the way we imagine they will make us feel.

Our lacking needs that we hope the object of our desire to fulfill is a medium by which fantasy orients itself, providing a foundation for desire that protects us from lack itself. This is how fantasy fills in the gaps of reality with fabricated coherence and unity, fulfilling the fundamental lack of social reality. One example of this is how the fantasy of a gf bridges the disconnect between outward behavior and inner thoughts and feelings. Often people who want a romantic relationship talk about the sense of belonging, being inwardly esteemed by another person, and being loved. However, there is no signifier in the world of appearances that the object of a foid can use to definitevely convey any of these (a point I developed in another thread). Another example is the impossibility of "love" itself: when we love someone, we only love them so much as they conform to our fantasy of them.

Ultimately, it is our fantasies themselves which offer an escape from this contradiction of social reality. It's not the desired object itself, it's the dream of us attaining it which makes us believe that attainment is a possibility. The enjoyment we would get from a gf (belonging, estimation, love) is impossible. One way that incels try to repress this idea is by projecting the dream of attainment onto an imagined other - chad - that enjoys the desired object in ways we can't experience but only imagine.

Freud says that a dream come true is a nightmare. Our fantasies create separation between us and the brutal meaninglessness of reality. When these are realized, it means we can no longer desire them. It's commonly talked about here how much foids fantasize about rape, but then when they are actually raped, they act like it's the worst thing in the world. It's not because they're retarded (they are retarded tho) but that in reality they can no longer manipulate how they imagine they will feel, and thus they are subject to the horrors of reality. When reality becomes too brutal, we escape to a world of our fantasies. But what is even worse is when our fantasies become too brutal, we can only escape by descending back to reality.
High IQ
 
How are they imagined? Chads are real.
Yes chad himself as just an attractive male is real. What is imagined is the dream of attainment that we project onto him. Attainment of things we lack but in reality are impossible. For example, the common statement “it’s cucked to pay for what chad gets for free”. The problem is that relationships are transactional by nature. There is no getting any love or sex for free. A point developed by @BlkPillPres. Instead of acknowledging this, lots of people just project it on an external figure, which becomes the object of our envy

Even now I’m starting to see more people get closer to this realization. But they just cope and say chad is just extremely rare
 
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To be honest, sex drive is pointless, if you think about it, btw. I wish I didn't have it at all.
 
“it’s cucked to pay for what chad gets for free”. The problem is that relationships are transactional by nature. There is no getting any love or sex for free. A point developed by @[UWSL] /data/avatars/s/4/4144.jpg?1635652057 [/UWSL]@BlkPillPres. Instead of acknowledging this, lots of people just project it on an external figure, which becomes the object of our envy

Even now I’m starting to see more people get closer to this realization. But they just cope and say chad is just extremely rare
Chads do get love for free. The "transaction" that you're talking about involves doing the most basic things for your partner like being there for each other. A lot of people have said that dogs love you conditionally, because they care about you only because you're their source of food, water and security. But seriously, if you have to push yourself to do something as basic as feeding your pet, giving it water and shelter, it's not that love is conditional. It's just that you're a shitty human being (not you personally)
 
brilliant thread OP.
the suffering is a big play on one's mine. the craving for one's object of desire, the belief that obtaining it will satisfy one...
 
Fantasy is a structure that directs our desire towards a desired object. It distances ourself from the brutal meaninglessness of reality by structuring our world and our relation to the object so that the object is perceived as more than just for its material aspects. Central to the incel fantasy is the object of the foid. Our fantasy teaches us to desire foids not just for their bodies, but for the way we imagine they will make us feel.
I think the teaching of sexual orientation is heavily influenced by socialization, to such an extent that a person's sexual orientation can be molded by social constructs and societal expectations. Had it not been for the massive surge in pro-LGBTQ+ campaigns in the West, I think some of the people in Western society who dont identify as heterosexual would have otherwise remained straight.
 
we hope the object of our desire to fulfill is a medium by which fantasy orients itself, providing a foundation for desire that protects us from lack itself. This is how fantasy fills in the gaps of reality with fabricated coherence and unity, fulfilling the fundamental lack of social reality. One example of this is how the fantasy of a gf bridges the disconnect between outward behavior and inner thoughts and feelings. Often people who want a romantic relationship talk about the sense of belonging, being inwardly esteemed by another person, and being loved. However, there is no signifier in the world of appearances that the object of a foid can use to definitevely convey any of these (a point I developed in another thread). Another example is the impossibility of "love" itself: when we love someone, we only love them so much as they conform to our fantasy of them.
It's like that famous quote from Itachi Uchiha. “Every human being relies on and is bounded by his knowledge and experience to live. This is what we call “reality”. However, knowledge and experience are ambiguous, thus reality can become illusion. Is it not possible to think that, all human beings are living in their assumptions?”
 
This is arguably the best post I have read on the forum since the beginning of the year. I think this observation about 'projection of fantasy' can be easily applied to other romantic shit like religion.

The 'fantasy projection' is like a paradox in the emotions. Like something that feels pleasant when you imagine and fantasize about it, but it easily causes you to feel disgust or disappointment when experienced in reality. Even when you come to dislike the reality of it, you can (and probably would if you are still :bluepill:) retreat to having the imaginary version of it, because it felt better when you imagined it, rather than when you actually saw it up close in its explicit form.

Sometimes it can be the mere fantasy of having something that brings more pleasure than actually having it.
 
To be honest, sex drive is pointless, if you think about it, btw. I wish I didn't have it at all.

If we didn't have them then we wouldn't be incels, we'd be volcels.

Our issue is that we desire something we can never attain. :blackpill::blackpill::blackpill: After chasing pussy relentlessly for so long, would it ever satisfy any of us? Could any toilet truly live up to all the stuff we've missed out and expected? :blackpill::blackpill::blackpill:
 
Will read later when im high :feelsohh:
 
If we didn't have them then we wouldn't be incels, we'd be volcels.
I feel like the term "volcel" can't be applied to asexuals, since it's not their choice either. They just don't have such a need.
After chasing pussy relentlessly for so long, would it ever satisfy any of us? Could any toilet truly live up to all the stuff we've missed out and expected? :blackpill::blackpill::blackpill:
I think it depends.
 
To be honest, sex drive is pointless, if you think about it, btw. I wish I didn't have it at all.
Same view here: garbage men can enjoy sex easily because women are throwing themselves at thugs and Dark Triad trash, whilst women in corpore can hold most men in captivity due to said urge. Blackpill is the issue, whitepill is the solution.
 

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