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While browsing the AskHistorians subreddit (Yes, I know.), I came across this post: "Are there historical accounts of women expressing interest in the physical appearance of men?" Being blackpilled, I expected there to be periods in history where women expressed their interest in looks; However, I wasn't prepared to see the absolute JFL content produced throughout history, even under different sets of social norms. The link to the thread:
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(Brutal JBW instance )Abbasid Iraq
The enslaved singing-girl 'Inān, active in the late 8th/early 9th century AD, was trained to exchange witty poetic repartee with men that was often flirtatious or downright erotic in nature. When she entertained the poet Hasan b. Wahb b. Sa'īd, they made love five times, but 'Inān was still unsatisfied. Hasan asked her to sing a popular song of the time about lovers with no hearts, but instead she composed this parody to express her dissatisfaction:
'Inān also exchanged many poems with the poet Abū Nuwās. The following exchange refers to the qibla, a spot in the mosque that indicated the direction of Mecca. Abū Nuwās wrote:O my two companion lovers have no cocks
and there is no pleasure in a lover who is unattainable
O host of lovers how excecrable is love
if there is flabbiness in the lover's prick.
'Inān:The Merciful has put a qibla in your face
so grant me to pray in your face and a kiss.
This exchange implies that 'Inān normally expects the men who kiss her to have handsome faces, and she teases Abū Nuwās (as they did in many of their exchanges with each other) that his ugly face isn't worthy of a kiss.Come and look you in a mirror
to see a comprehensive ugliness
Is it with such a face that you crave
a kiss from the fair of face?
Another 9th century enslaved singing girl poet, 'Arīb, was one of the most celebrated poets of her day. She fell in love with a soldier who was the guest of her master and wrote this of him, focusing on his appearance:
When asked what she looked for in a lover, 'Arīb once said that the most important requirements were a hard penis and sweet breath - if the lover was good-looking then that was a bonus.With my father I'd ransom every blue-eyed
Fair-skinned and blond man
My heart is besotted by him
and my being besotted is not blameworthy
Heian Japan
The women who worked as asobi, singers and prostitutes, composed many songs in the imayō genre. This genre became popular at the imperial court, which is how many examples survive. The asobi sang these songs while rowing little boats in pleasure districts, trying to attract the custom of aristocratic men on pilgrimage routes. Here is one example:
Another itinerant entertainer appears in Sei Shōnagon's The Pillow Book, dancing and singing while dressed as a nun in order to solicit patronage from the women of the court. Her songs were similarly erotic, though in this case also humourous:Wish I were a climbing vine
When I catch a glimpse of a beauty!
From roots to branches all entwined,
Cut and chop as you like,
My karma decrees from you
I'll not be torn.
Women who weren't sex workers or paid entertainers were not quite so explicit in their descriptions of men, but we still find passages in their writings that reflect on men's beauty and sexual appeal. Ono no Komachi was a famous aristocratic woman who lived in the 9th century. Very little is known about her life, but legends grew up around her poems once they were included in the imperial anthology Kokinshū. According to legend, this poem was written about a lover who died before the night they were meant to be together:The peak of Man Mountain stands proud in fame.
Its scarlet tip has quite a name!
In the 10th century we start getting more works written by women in the Heian court. Izumi Shikibu had some infamous love affairs during her time at court. Some of her poems are quite explicit about the physical desire she felt for her lovers. Here are two:Awake tonight
with loneliness,
I cannot keep myself
from longing
for the handsome moon.
Lying alone,
my black hair tangled,
uncombed,
I long for the one
who touched it first.
-
Why haven't I
thought of it before?
This body,
remembering yours,
is the keepsake you left.
Then in the semi-autiobiographical work The Pillow Book, author Sei Shōnagon discusses handsome men at various points. It's worth noting here that both men and women of the court tended to focus on the beauty of one's clothing more than on their physical attributes, although those were still noted. Here are various excerpts that deal with attraction to men:
A priest who gives a sermon should be handsome. After all, you're most aware of the profundity of his teaching if you're gazing at his face as he speaks. If your eyes drift elsewhere you tend to forget what you've just heard, so an unattractive face has the effect of making you feel quite sinful.
Counsellor Yosichika was looking even finer than usual, in fact simply marvellous. There he was, in the midst of these gorgeous colours [of others' clothing], such dazzling sheens of summer under-robes that there was no choosing among them for beauty, and he was simplicity itself in his single cloak. He kept looking across towards the ladies' carriages, and sending messages over to them. No one who saw him could have failed to find him delightful.
[describing a hypothetical ideal lover] He has slipped back his mist-drenched cloak from his shoulders, and his lacquered cap is pulled awkwardly down over sidelocks that are somewhat bushy and tangled from the night's escapade, lending him a negligent air.
It looks terrible when a handsome nobleman is a Board of Censors Officer [because the uniform is ugly].
Along Tadanobu duly came, looking magnificent. He wore a gorgeous damask cloak in the cherry-blossom combination, with an immaculate lustre to its inner lining, and his gathered trousers of rich, dark grape colour were woven through with a dazzling pattern of tangled wisteria vine. The scarlet colour and glossed silk effect of the inner robe positively shone, and layer upon layer of very pale violet-grey and other colours were visible beneath the cloak. The way he seated himself on the narrow veranda, with one foot hanging from its edge as he leaned in slightly toward the blind, made him look the absolute epitome of some splendid figure in a picture, or in the sort of marvellous scene you find described in a romance. [... later, when Shōnagon is visiting the empress] 'But no more of this talk of the men in old tales,' said Her Majesty. 'If only you'd seen Tadanobu when he came today, I imagine you would have been beside yourself over how splendid he looked.' 'Yes, it's quite true,' chimed in several ladies. 'He really did look even more marvellous than usual.' 'Actually,' I said, 'that is precisely what I came to tell you about, your Majesty, but this talk of tales distracted me.' And I proceeded to describe what had happened. 'Well, we all saw him,' they said, laughing, 'but who else took in such detail, down to the very threads and stitches?'
Things of elegant beauty - A slim, handsome young gentleman of noble birth wearing court dress.
Another elegant sight is of a handsome serving man walking past bearing a ceremonial narrow-bladed sword with a flat-weave ceremonial cord attached.
A good-looking man has spent the day engrossed in playing sugoroku, and now as night draws in he seems still intent on playing [...] The neck-band of his hunting-costume has ridden up till it rubs his face, and his other hand goes up to push it back into place. [...] How delightfully arrogant he looks!
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