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Maybe. So you're saying that ugly men in your culture are just assholes to one another?

I live in a white-majority country you dingus. I'm saying that men and women in western countries treat ugly ethnics like me with contempt and derision.

inb4 bluepilled advice of 'just go to a different country bro!'.
 
This is your problem. Right here.

this sounds like cucktears. "its always your fault no matter what"
if you are calm, you need to be more outgoing. if you are outgoing you need to be more calm. there is always an excuse, always a justification.
 
Who gives a fuck? You don't need to "prove yourself." That's normie blue-pilled nonsense. Stop giving a fuck about the way others look at you.



This is your problem. Right here.



No, you're very mistaken. No one wants to have anything to do with someone who seems insecure. And you're acting insecure every single time you get made fun of and react in a big emotional feelzy way to it. You need to shrug/laugh these idiots off.



They think they can get a spastic reaction out of you, and they're right. You're failing the basic test of not giving a fuck when people try to trigger you. You're providing them a lot of free entertainment as well, while also making yourself appear extremely insecure to everyone around you. No wonder even the uglies don't want to be friends with you; they're afraid that you'll spaz at them.



I'm talking about team sports, where it's literally impossible for you to not be on the same team as the people you're playing with. Individiual sports aren't going to work for you until you get your emotions in check.

I'm really tempted to report you to the mods for being an IncelTears infiltrator. The language you use makes it super obvious you're a normie, not a fellow incel.
 
Maybe. So you're saying that ugly men in your culture are just assholes to one another?


These people didn't hit you though. They were just trolling you. The answer to your problems is to stop hanging around trolls and to stop feeding trolls. If you really felt superior to them (which you should since you're presumably wouldn't do the things they're doing) then you'd treat them the way foids treat us: like they don't even exist.


your recipe of not responding to beeing made fun of will get you bullied if you are babyfaced. i know what im talking about. i started doing martial arts and bodybuilding because i was bullied. and the way i made it stop was quite painful. i dread the days when i have to wear a jacket and people will try to mess with me physically again.
 
this sounds like cucktears. "its always your fault no matter what"
if you are calm, you need to be more outgoing. if you are outgoing you need to be more calm. there is always an excuse, always a justification.

We're not talking about attracting foids here. We're talking about getting other ugly men to not treat you like shit. So I'm sorry but yeah, it is kind of your fault here. At a certain low point you have to be willing to admit you're doing something wrong.
I'm really tempted to report you to the mods for being an IncelTears infiltrator. The language you use makes it super obvious you're a normie, not a fellow incel.

Go ahead and report me you cuck. If the mods want to take action it's their loss.
 
this sounds like cucktears. "its always your fault no matter what"
if you are calm, you need to be more outgoing. if you are outgoing you need to be more calm. there is always an excuse, always a justification.

Yep.

If you approach they say you're being too desparate and that normies don't approach people.
If you don't approach they say you're being too aloof and that normies approach people.

And the kicker is that these numales fail to see the holes in their "logic". They're a bunch of pea-brained brainlets.
you're doing something wrong.
.

Might as well just tell him to rope.
 
seriously why did you stop inciting and you seem desperate mix good together.
i guess stopping inviting will get people to invite me, right?

We're not talking about attracting foids here. We're talking about getting other ugly men to not treat you like shit. So I'm sorry but yeah, it is kind of your fault here.

again, i never made a fuzz or dropped a bad word in front of the people i invite. they see my babyface and think im a loser. no one wants to have anything to do with a loser.

a comprehensive example. the birthday guy asked me to do him a favor. we texted back and forth until i finished doing him a favor. the next day i asked him if he'd like to grab a few beers next friday. he answered "i need to see if i got time" i replied "tell me when youre free". haven't heard of him until he asked me for another favor. what do?
 
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I am really lucky. I met %99 of my friends bec. of cycling or games. And i am still very close to my friends(one of them is a blackpilled incel-he is worse than me-)
 
Might as well just tell him to rope.

I could've said "rope lolz" but instead I gave him practical, straightforward advice. He doesn't want to hear it, since he'd rather pretend that he was destined to get rejected even by the ugliest men in society.

If this community is so fatalistic as to believe that incels don't even have a chance to be friends with other incels, then I would gladly accept a permanent ban. That's just dogmatic lunacy and I want no part of it.
 
I could've said "rope lolz" but instead I gave him practical, straightforward advice. He doesn't want to hear it, since he'd rather pretend that he was destined to get rejected even by the ugliest men in society.

If this community is so fatalistic as to believe that incels don't even have a chance to be friends with other incels, then I would gladly accept a permanent ban. That's just dogmatic lunacy and I want no part of it.

for sure ugly guys can be friends. i have tried inviting everyone under te sun. no response.
 
I could've said "rope lolz" but instead I gave him practical, straightforward advice. He doesn't want to hear it, since he'd rather pretend that he was destined to get rejected even by the ugliest men in society.

If this community is so fatalistic as to believe that incels don't even have a chance to be friends with other incels, then I would gladly accept a permanent ban. That's just dogmatic lunacy and I want no part of it.

99% of us here are friendless losers. Some do have acquaintances, some do make the effort to hang out with randoms but pretty much no one has a true friend here. Lookism doesn't just affect your interactions with women, but also your interactions with other men.
 
99% of us here are friendless losers. Some do have acquaintances, some do make the effort to hang out with randoms but pretty much no one has a true friend here. Lookism doesn't just affect your interactions with women, but also your interactions with other men.

Not your interactions with other ugly men. Do you see why? It becomes a self-fulfilling and inherently contradictory death spiral.

It'd be like complaining, "We uglies can't make any friends because we're ugly and therefore we're assholes to each other!"

And please stop the relentless strawmanning by the way.
 
Not your interactions with other ugly men. Do you see why? It becomes a self-fulfilling and inherently contradictory death spiral.

It'd be like complaining, "We uglies can't make any friends because we're ugly and therefore we're assholes to each other!"

And please stop the relentless strawmanning by the way.

I, like OP, have done everything in my control to get a social life going. But I've always failed, just like OP. I've heard the platitudes you're giving to OP before. They never work.

Take that BS advice and shove it you normie numale.
By the way, the only legit advice to OP would be to get jaw surgery, start roidcelling and improve his looks. Every other way does not work.
 
Take that BS advice and shove it you normie numale.
By the way, the only legit advice to OP would be to get jaw surgery, start roidcelling and improve his looks. Every other way does not work.

No, that would be going way overboard. Again, you're acting as if we're talking about attracting normies or foids here. We're not.

We're talking about attracting other uglies of the same sex. This does not require jaw surgery, roidcelling, or anything else. It requires not being a spastic overly-aggressive maniac. That is all.

It's analogous to retaining a job at McDonalds. You really don't need to do anything except show up on time and not leave until your shift is over. And OP is refusing to even do that, and you're defending his irrational refusal.
 
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No, that would be going way overboard. Again, you're acting as if we're talking about attracting normies or foids here. We're not.

We're talking about attracting other uglies of the same sex. This does not require jaw surgery, roidcelling, or anything else. It requires not being a spastic overly-aggressive maniac. That is all.
You know, I completely understand why a lot of men are attracted to reactionary politics these days. You normie numales need to be sent to gulag.
 
You know, I completely understand why a lot of men are attracted to reactionary politics these days. You normie numales need to be sent to gulag.

I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.
 
this is very brutal
Socialising with other people takes so much time and energy.
It’s not that I have no opportunities myself anymore, it’s more that I don’t have the will.
Men abandon you the second you need them and women actively exploit you.
It is painful to be alone, but easier now.
 
We're not talking about attracting foids here. We're talking about getting other ugly men to not treat you like shit. So I'm sorry but yeah, it is kind of your fault here. At a certain low point you have to be willing to admit you're doing something wrong.

a comprehensive example. the birthday guy asked me to do him a favor. we texted back and forth until i finished doing him a favor. the next day i asked him if he'd like to grab a few beers next friday. he answered "i need to see if i got time" i replied "tell me when youre free". haven't heard of him until he asked me for another favor. what do?

what did i do wrong here?
 
what did i do wrong here?

Your reply is where you went wrong. Never reply "tell me when you're free" imo. You may not realize it, but "tell me when you're free" translates to "I'm so desperate to meet up with you that I'll literally meet you at any time you choose, just make sure to get back to me." It's cucky.

You want to be coming from a place of strength, not of desperation. Even if you really are desperate, that's okay, but create an illusion that you're not. It's just how the social world works; people respond well to those who seem secure and strong and not at all needy or clingy.

I know that's not what you want to hear, but it's true as far as I understand. It won't be as true once you have an established social circle and stuff. At that point it will become easier. But social rules are complicated and you've got to be patient and navigate this calmly for now. Don't get impulsive and try to force things.
 
Your reply is where you went wrong. Never reply "tell me when you're free" imo. You may not realize it, but "tell me when you're free" translates to "I'm so desperate to meet up with you that I'll literally meet you at any time you choose, just make sure to get back to me." It's cucky.

You want to be coming from a place of strength, not of desperation. Even if you really are desperate, that's okay, but create an illusion that you're not. It's just how the social world works.

I know that's not what you want to hear, but it's true as far as I understand. It won't be as true once you have an established social circle and stuff. But social rules are complicated and you've got to be patient and navigate this calmly. Don't get impulsive and try to force things.

thats some pua grade stuff right here, but alright. what was i supposed to say?
 
If you dont get social circle before you finish school, the social game is over.

I have accepted the fate of even spending my vacation alone.
 
But social rules are complicated and you've got to be patient and navigate this calmly for now. Don't get impulsive and try to force things.
Good advice.
The difficulty is figuring out when you can go out of the boundaries of the rules and when you need to follow them. Just try to act like a normie and do some trial and error in the things you say and see how people react
 
thats some pua grade stuff right here, but alright. what was i supposed to say?

He'd already said, "I need to see if I got time." So the ball was in his court. Your job was done at that point; no need to do anything except wait.

Also, as a general guideline, you're never "supposed" to say anything. So get that out of your head. Imagine if you were Chad. Would you ever feel that you were "supposed" to say something? Of course not. That's a cuck idea that there are "hard and fast rules" or "proper etiquette."

Now you're obviously not Chad, which means you've got to create a stronger illusion because people won't buy into your bluff if they don't think you have anything to actually back it up with. But this shouldn't be a problem for you as long as you're patient. People will test your patience. They're just doing this to make sure you're legit not a desperate cuck. They might blow you off, not respond, whatever. But again, you've got to not be bothered when this happens or you'll permanently signal to them that you're needy, causing them to want to stay far, far away from you.
 
He'd already said, "I need to see if I got time." So the ball was in his court. Your job was done at that point; no need to do anything except wait.

Also, as a general guideline, you're never "supposed" to say anything. So get that out of your head. Imagine if you were Chad. Would you ever feel that you were "supposed" to say something? Of course not. That's a cuck idea that there are "hard and fast rules" or "proper etiquette."

Now you're obviously not Chad, which means you've got to create a stronger illusion because people won't buy into your bluff if they don't think you have anything to actually back it up with. But this shouldn't be a problem for you as long as you're patient. People will test your patience. They're just doing this to make sure you're legit not a desperate cuck. They might blow you off, not respond, whatever. But again, you've got to not be bothered when this happens or you'll permanently signal to them that you're needy.

i had this "i need to see if i got time" quite often. sometimes i left it at that, but i never got a response after a month.
i claim that if they would want to go out with me they would have contacted me. since they did not contact me they dont want to.
 
i had this "i need to see if i got time" quite often. sometimes i left it at that, but i never got a response after a month.
i claim that if they would want to go out with me they would have contacted me. since they did not contact me they dont want to.

I wouldn't try to read their minds or read into it at all. They could easily just be busy or stressed or whatever.

The important thing is that you are signaling strength and confidence (despite not feeling strong and confident). That's what social games are all about. This won't be enough to make foids or Chadlites want to be friends with you obviously (blackpill and all that), but it will be more than enough to get other uglies to want to be friends with you, since the vast majority of them feel like shit themselves and will sense that you're a good ally to have since you otherwise wouldn't be so stoic. This is all grounded in evolutionary psychology.

Again, the social game is a complicated one, and I generally find others to be extremely annoying and so prefer to be alone, which is why I choose not to play. But if you're going to play, at least play it well.
 
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I wouldn't try to read their minds or read into it at all. They could easily just be busy or stressed or whatever.

The important thing is that you are signaling strength and confidence (despite not feeling strong and confident). That's what social games are all about. This won't be enough to make foids or Chadlites want to be friends with you obviously (blackpill and all that), but it will be more than enough to get other uglies to want to be friends with you, since the vast majority of them feel like shit themselves and will sense that you're a good ally to have since you otherwise wouldn't be so stoic. This is all grounded in evolutionary psychology.

Again, the social game is a complicated one, and I generally find others to be extremely annoying and so prefer to be alone, which is why I choose not to play. But if you're going to play, at least play it well.

i have unblocked everyone, but i wont text them anymore. lets see if anyone of them texts me.
 
I experienced the exact same shit you do. Even when I had a social circle they treated me terribly so I stopped talking to them. Sitting in front of the computer and not going outside is the best circumstance for dog shit ugly males. It's so fucking annoying. People get mad at you because you don't talk to them and then when you do talk to them they give you 1-3 word replies that don't add anything to the conversation. ldar it's over. :fire::fire::fire::fire::woke::fire::fire:
back in the day i would not give a fuck about anything. the issue is (and this is why i brought this anecdote) that people (like the old man) dont want to provoke a reaction. the old man stands no chance if he manages to "provoke a reaction". they want to put other people down to feel superior. and im killing their fun. same thing with the tournament. when the second judge started to make up bs rules i finished the game and said no word. great mistake. he got the tournament prize. i should've ruined his fun.

i wouldnt get into strangers faces when they would just leave me alone. if they wouldnt insult me i wouldnt need to defend myself. im not a psycopath who beats up random people. but i hit back if you hit me first.

but thats besides the point. i never made a fuzz in front of the people i invite.
there is alwas an excuse for beeing left out. but standing up for yourself isnt one of them. i got bullied physically for 10 years and i know what happens if you dont stand up for yourself. if someone touches me im gonna tear them a new one.
but this only applies to my thug neighbourhood. i never got in the faces of the people i invite.
If you don't defend yourself then people call you a pathetic pushover if you are ugly. When people make fun of an ugly guy they think that you're too scared and afraid to say anything back, not that oh he gives zero affects wow what I did didn't affect him. Being ugly makes being around other humans nothing but pain and misery.
 
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