Growing a social circle

[CaptainRussia]

I give up. for months i have been trying to grow a social circle. i contacted people i know, former friends, even relatives and tried to organize activities with them. they usually just say stuff like "i need to see when i got time" and then i never hear from them again.
today is the birthday of one special sucker. he used to chat me up quite often when he needed something. when i chat him up occasionally to ask if hes alright, he treats me like im a lesser human. Once he wanted to go on a trip, where they drive you around in a bus to different companies and you attend and information presentation. he didnt want to go alone, so i agreed to give hime company even though i was busy as fuck. on that trip he met another guy, that he apparently asked prior but who declined. he sat next to him in the bus and wouldnt talk to me for the rest of the day. he probably only asked me because nobody else wanted to go with him. we agreed to go for a drink two years ago but he claims he is so busy he couldnt find one single day to see the guy who put in days accumulated to help him with his stuff. i blocked him after knowing him for 8 years. the best thing is he for sure doesnt give a fuck.

an old "friend" of mine who i knew for 10 years and have been trying to meet for about 6 months sent me the "i need to see when i got time" about 2 months ago.
My two female cousins, who i chatted up a month ago and who i invited for a walk agreed both, but i havent heard from them for over a month. when they needed their laptops fixed they were quick to ask and quick to respond, but nowadays they can respond to two texts a day max.
I chatted up a dude who asked me for favors prior. i asked him if he would like to go grab a beer. he left me on read and answered one day later "im very busy during workdays and cant chat. got a lot to do". this dude is literally online all day. this was a month ago.
i chatted up about 12 people and stopped intitiating conversations one month ago. i havent heard of one of them since.
fuck this shit. im gonna die friendless and alone

 

[metal]

this is very brutal

 

[Demir]

It never began

 

[itsmemario]

Go to gym, do some sport, join a club or start a class. These things can benefit you and give you chances to get new friend. Thats what i did, went to gym, joined a movie club, went to a graphic designer class.

 

[CaptainRussia]

Go to gym, do some sport, join a club or start a class. These things can benefit you and give you chances to get new friend. Thats what i did, went to gym, joined a movie club, went to a graphic designer class.

i did martial arts for years and im gymcelled. i look like i lift. im narrow shoouldered, broad hipped, babyfaced, recessed chin, bug eyes at 12%bf. i have average t i got that checked.

 

[acnescarcel]

friendship is cancer. going out is cancer.

 

[Incellectual]

Go to gym, do some sport, join a club or start a class. These things can benefit you and give you chances to get new friend. Thats what i did, went to gym, joined a movie club, went to a graphic designer class.

That only helps so much. I've never found them to introduce me to friends, even when I went specifically to make friends.

 

[itsmemario]

i did martial arts for years and im gymcelled. i look like i lift. im narrow shoouldered, broad hipped, babyfaced, recessed chin, bug eyes at 12%bf. i have average t i got that checked.

12%, nice bro, i never got under 14%.
Did you try to interract with other gym goers or someone in the martial arts trainig?

 

[CaptainRussia]

12%, nice bro, i never got under 14%.
Did you try to interract with other gym goers or someone in the martial arts trainig?

during martial arts training yes. but same problem. if i didnt approach people i wouldnt have a sparring partner. ever. when i spared with someone they seemed annoyed as fuck.
the best way to make friends is to have friends. no one wants to have anything to do with someone who has no friends.
i have a home gym now.
12% is my max i think. my strength dipped hard and i dont think i could go to 10% without getting rid of all my muscles first.

 

[itsmemario]

That only helps so much. I've never found them to introduce me to friends, even when I went specifically to make friends.

I know that lot of you view me as a blackpilled normie but trust me i had to put tonnes of effort in soicalising to get to the point when i got invited out. I was the weid guy who timidle asked for advices just to start a smalltalk, and eventually got some people know enough to start conversations about, music, games movies ... finding common interests besides working out. Listening to theyr highschool storyes. It didin just happened like, me going to the gym and chads come to me to make friends.

during martial arts training yes. but same problem. if i didnt approach people i wouldnt have a sparring partner. ever. when i spared with someone they seemed annoyed as fuck.
the best way to make friends is to have friends. no one wants to have anything to do with someone who has no friends.
i have a home gym now.
12% is my max i think. my strength dipped hard and i dont think i could go to 10% without getting rid of all my muscles first.

Yes, without gear you will loose strength and muscle mass at low BF, i got bakc to around 17% so i can make gains again.

 

[CaptainRussia]

i think its all due to my babyface. people just dont have any respect towards me. they see me and get the urge to pick on me.
would you want to be friends with someone who looks like 16 if you are a grown as man closer to 30 than to 20?

 

[Life Wasted]

Social circle game requires high levels of NT and some status to pull off. You likely lack both, also most people already have their social circles established and arent looking to make a new one. You have a better shot at joining a social circle than growing a new one but good luck doing that.

 

[Boatman]

Same here. Any attempts I make to find new friends always ends in total failure. Hanging out with the friends I do have just get worse every time. At best I'm the guy they talk to when they have literally nothing else to do.

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

i think i spent all summer trying to get something going with what i had in my phone, absolutely nothing came of it. i got a reply from someone after more than two months.

 

[CaptainRussia]

about 6 months ago i wondered why people would treat me like a kid and have no respect for me. now i know. its because i look like a fucking kid. i was all into the personality bullshit. all the lies i got fed my whole life. just be yourself. be nice to people. you can be nice all you want. if you dont look intimidating people will take you to pieces. its looks or bust.

 

[happiless]

Try to some normies. They'll love you

 

[CaptainRussia]

Try to some normies. They'll love you

the "friend" i knew for 10 months was married for one month. he married his gf of 5 years and one month later she cheated on him. a couple of months later he moved together with his new gf. one year later she is pregnant.
you cannot blackpill people who are too low iq.

 

[grayjedi90]

I give up. for months i have been trying to grow a social circle. i contacted people i know, former friends, even relatives and tried to organize activities with them. they usually just say stuff like "i need to see when i got time" and then i never hear from them again.
today is the birthday of one special sucker. he used to chat me up quite often when he needed something. when i chat him up occasionally to ask if hes alright, he treats me like im a lesser human. Once he wanted to go on a trip, where they drive you around in a bus to different companies and you attend and information presentation. he didnt want to go alone, so i agreed to give hime company even though i was busy as fuck. on that trip he met another guy, that he apparently asked prior but who declined. he sat next to him in the bus and wouldnt talk to me for the rest of the day. he probably only asked me because nobody else wanted to go with him. we agreed to go for a drink two years ago but he claims he is so busy he couldnt find one single day to see the guy who put in days accumulated to help him with his stuff. i blocked him after knowing him for 8 years. the best thing is he for sure doesnt give a fuck.

an old "friend" of mine who i knew for 10 years and have been trying to meet for about 6 months sent me the "i need to see when i got time" about 2 months ago.
My two female cousins, who i chatted up a month ago and who i invited for a walk agreed both, but i havent heard from them for over a month. when they needed their laptops fixed they were quick to ask and quick to respond, but nowadays they can respond to two texts a day max.
I chatted up a dude who asked me for favors prior. i asked him if he would like to go grab a beer. he left me on read and answered one day later "im very busy during workdays and cant chat. got a lot to do". this dude is literally online all day. this was a month ago.
i chatted up about 12 people and stopped intitiating conversations one month ago. i havent heard of one of them since.
fuck this shit. im gonna die friendless and alone

I feel you. Im 28 and never had any friends because im too socially retarded. No matter what i try i can't get people to like me or get into social circles.

 

[oldcellcopecell]

You can forget about getting friends easily as you get above college age.

Your best shot is turning a work friend into a regular friend, second by getting involved in some kind of sports or hobby org and volunteer stuff.

We also have to be realistic here, real friendships are built over shared experiences, many of which are in youth, such as getting in a fight agains others or chasing girls together etc. As we age, new friendships will more be based on common values than shared experience. It's a different type of friendship, but imo easier to get going. I found it rather easy to talk to people when I was SEAmaxxing, cause everyone was kind of similar in being mostly redpilled/blackpilled and into the same stuff such as trying to make money to stay there and escortcelling. Politics, which people call bluepill, can also help with this. Adults are far more likely to seek out people with the same political viewpoints.

In any case, it seems unlikely to me to make real friendships post college age easily. The best bet is to try to just find drinking buddies, sports buddies etc.

 

[Getlooksordie]

as with anything in life, if you want to be successful your best bet is a wraparound jaw implant.

 

[IsolationHurts]

I feel you. Im 28 and never had any friends because im too socially retarded. No matter what i try i can't get people to like me or get into social circles.

Litteraly the same. 28 and never had a friend.
Anyway, keep trying OP.

 

[CaptainRussia]

i blocked everyone

 

[The Abyss]

Fucking normans for ya, everybody loves a sucker but suddenly become unavailable when it's for mutual benefit or you're the one needing a favour.

Fuck those ppl mang, hanging around them will just be to your detriment as you know; hopefully they end up in a predicament & there's no fucker around to assist one day.

 

[rabitter]

I give up. for months i have been trying to grow a social circle. i contacted people i know, former friends, even relatives and tried to organize activities with them. they usually just say stuff like "i need to see when i got time" and then i never hear from them again.
today is the birthday of one special sucker. he used to chat me up quite often when he needed something. when i chat him up occasionally to ask if hes alright, he treats me like im a lesser human. Once he wanted to go on a trip, where they drive you around in a bus to different companies and you attend and information presentation. he didnt want to go alone, so i agreed to give hime company even though i was busy as fuck. on that trip he met another guy, that he apparently asked prior but who declined. he sat next to him in the bus and wouldnt talk to me for the rest of the day. he probably only asked me because nobody else wanted to go with him. we agreed to go for a drink two years ago but he claims he is so busy he couldnt find one single day to see the guy who put in days accumulated to help him with his stuff. i blocked him after knowing him for 8 years. the best thing is he for sure doesnt give a fuck.

an old "friend" of mine who i knew for 10 years and have been trying to meet for about 6 months sent me the "i need to see when i got time" about 2 months ago.
My two female cousins, who i chatted up a month ago and who i invited for a walk agreed both, but i havent heard from them for over a month. when they needed their laptops fixed they were quick to ask and quick to respond, but nowadays they can respond to two texts a day max.
I chatted up a dude who asked me for favors prior. i asked him if he would like to go grab a beer. he left me on read and answered one day later "im very busy during workdays and cant chat. got a lot to do". this dude is literally online all day. this was a month ago.
i chatted up about 12 people and stopped intitiating conversations one month ago. i havent heard of one of them since.
fuck this shit. im gonna die friendless and alone

The sad thing is that if you were Chad they'd be begging to meet with you - not just foids but other men as well.

 

[The Abyss]

Funny how those with no social circle can't get even one friend then conversely you have those with tons of ppl they use all lining up to get a piece of that action. Fucking ridiculous, humans are such hypocritical pieces of shit trying to pretend we're good natured, welcoming & open minded.

 

[grayjedi90]

Litteraly the same. 28 and never had a friend.
Anyway, keep trying OP.

im tired of trying and the older i get the more i feel like it's a hopeless endeavor

 

[Deleted member 677]

Social circle is cope.

 

[IsolationHurts]

im tired of trying and the older i get the more i feel like it's a hopeless endeavor

Ive already given up tbh. I know ill live and die in complete isolation, and im trying to get used to it.
Its truly hopeless as a ugly male. I just hope that i die as soon as possible.

 

[micropenis29]

You sound way too desperate and people can sense that and are likely repelled by you for that reason. Yes, most of this is lookism (like everything else) but you're even gonna scare other uglies away by being so aggressive.

You need to just do shit you enjoy doing and other uglies nearby will approach you and want to be your friend.

 

[rabitter]

You need to just do shit you enjoy doing and other uglies nearby will approach you and want to be your friend.

>just be urself bro

 

[micropenis29]

>just be urself bro

It works if we're talking about attracting people that are as ugly as you are and the same sex as you.

 

[rabitter]

It works if we're talking about attracting people that are as ugly as you are and the same sex as you.

Ugly people stay at home these days. How do you think we all have so much time to shitpost on incel forums?

The Outside is only for normies, Chads, and foids.

 

[CaptainRussia]

You sound way too desperate and people can sense that and are likely repelled by you for that reason. Yes, most of this is lookism (like everything else) but you're even gonna scare other uglies away by being so aggressive.

You need to just do shit you enjoy doing and other uglies nearby will approach you and want to be your friend.

i keep myself busy. i dont run after anyone. im not acting desperate. i offer to go out to different people. people who dont know each other. i send an invite and one month later a second invite. the rest ist smalltalk but i dont text more than twice a week.

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

Ugly people stay at home these days. How do you think we all have so much time to shitpost on incel forums?

The Outside is only for normies, Chads, and foids.

only males tbh

 

[micropenis29]

Ugly people stay at home these days. How do you think we all have so much time to shitpost on incel forums?

The Outside is only for normies, Chads, and foids.

That's not really true. Only ugly and asocial people stay at home. There are plenty of ugly but social people that approach me all the time IRL (men, not foids) if I don't actively try to avoid them.

Making ugly male friends should not be nearly as difficult as OP is making it.

i keep myself busy. i dont run after anyone. im not acting desperate. i offer to go out to different people. people who dont know each other. i send an invite and one month later a second invite. the rest ist smalltalk but i dont text more than twice a week.

I wouldn't ask anyone to do anything since the very act of asking--all else being equal--signals that you're the needy one. Let them ask you for now. Once you have a small circle of friends, you can then begin asking people because it will be obvious you're not needy at that point even though you're the one asking.

 

[CaptainRussia]

That's not really true. Only ugly and asocial people stay at home. There are plenty of ugly but social people that approach me all the time IRL (men, not foids) if I don't actively try to avoid them.

Making ugly male friends should not be nearly as difficult as OP is making it.

no one is approaching me ever. i have no idea what you are talking about. no one ever initiates contact with me. ever.

 

[rabitter]

Go to gym, do some sport, join a club or start a class. These things can benefit you and give you chances to get new friend. Thats what i did, went to gym, joined a movie club, went to a graphic designer class.

When you do all that but still end up friendless

The only people who have messaged me in the past 6 months are my parents. And in one of those texts, my father even misspelled my name. You know it's over when your own parents don't say your name right.

 

[micropenis29]

no one is approaching me ever. i have no idea what you are talking about. no one ever initiates contact with me. ever.

What do you do? Like what do you do for a job? And what do you do for fun?

 

[CaptainRussia]

What do you do? Like what do you do for a job? And what do you do for fun?

i used to do martial arts(club, not anymore), swimming(club, 2 years ago), riding my bike (alone), going to bars(about once a month, alone) used to play a tcg(tournament, 6 months ago, long story, got matched with a dude every tournament for many months and won every time. he got mad and started to pick on me and got other people joining him. had to leave, no other tournaments in my area. so much for finding other uggo friends) and the rare dinners which i organize (about once every two months, but i stopped inviting)

 

[micropenis29]

i used to do martial arts(club, not anymore), swimming(club, 2 years ago), riding my bike (alone), going to bars(about once a month, alone)

Why'd you stop doing martial arts and swimming?

used to play a tcg(tournament, 6 months ago, long story, got matched with a dude every tournament for many months and won every time. he got mad and started to pick on me and got other people joining him. had to leave, no other tournaments in my area. so much for finding other uggo friends)

Sounds like you may have been too sensitive here. You left because they were "picking on you?" Did you spaz or something? I'm just curious.

and the rare dinners which i organize (about once every two months, but i stopped inviting)

Why'd you stop inviting?

 

[rabitter]

Why'd you stop doing martial arts and swimming?



Sounds like you may have been too sensitive here. You left because they were "picking on you?" Did you spaz or something? I'm just curious.



Why'd you stop inviting?

Will you stop with the bluepilled nonsense, normie? I bet you're here from either IncelTears or from one of those YouTube videos that make fun of incels.is posters. Fuck normies like you.

 

[CaptainRussia]

Why'd you stop doing martial arts and swimming?



Sounds like you may have been too sensitive here. You left because they were "picking on you?" Did you spaz or something? I'm just curious.



Why'd you stop inviting?

i stopped martial arts and swimming because i was thirdwheeling. in martial arts if i didnt approach people to be my sparring partners i'd have no sparring partners at all. and this after years of martial arts training with the same people. same for swimming. they would organize activities without me even knowing after they met.

i did not spaz out. dude just started to make up bs rules, like trowing two cards at once on the board and saying too late when i want to counter one one of them. and hes the second judge, so playing makes no sense. its like you are playing chess and your opponent just wipes your board and yells checkmate.

i stopped inviting because people just wouldnt invite me back, text me or even reply in most cases. if theyd want to go out they had one month to invite.

 

[micropenis29]

Will you stop with the bluepilled nonsense, normie? I bet you're here from either IncelTears or from one of those YouTube videos that make fun of incels.is posters. Fuck normies like you.

Being blackpilled doesn't mean we're not allowed to ask questions and offer advice.

And while we incels shouldn't expect to attract women, we shouldn't sell ourselves short either by expecting to be repulsive to other low status/ugly men.

 

[rabitter]

Being blackpilled doesn't mean we're not allowed to ask questions and offer advice.

And while we incels shouldn't expect to attract women, we shouldn't sell ourselves short either by expecting to be repulsive to other low status/ugly men.

Ugly men treat other ugly men like shit. Especially if you're an ugly ethnic male. That's the real black pill.

 

[micropenis29]

i stopped martial arts and swimming because i was thirdwheeling. in martial arts if i didnt approach people to be my sparring partners i'd have no sparring partners at all. and this after years of martial arts training with the same people. same for swimming. they would organize activities without me even knowing after they met.

Sounds like these individual sports are, unfortunately, almost designed to ultimately isolate people like you. Have you considered team sports ever?

i did not spaz out. dude just started to make up bs rules, like trowing two cards at once on the board and saying too late when i want to counter one one of them. and hes the second judge, so playing makes no sense. its like you are playing chess and your opponent just wipes your board and yells checkmate.

Then these people were clearly not serious about whatever game this was. I would find a more serious league if one's available, or else find something in which you can be a part of a team (if you're as skilled as it sounds like you are, your teammates will appreciate you rather than hate on you like these guys).

i stopped inviting because people just wouldnt invite me back, text me or even reply in most cases. if theyd want to go out they had one month to invite.

You shouldn't invite people with the built-in expectation that they'll reciprocate. They can sense that and it's a turn-off.

Ugly men treat other ugly men like shit. Especially if you're an ugly ethnic male. That's the real black pill.

This is just not my experience at all and fails a basic logical test as well. Ugly men are generally some of the nicest people (they have to be, since they have literally nothing else going for them and thus they wouldn't even survive if they weren't ultra friendly).

 

[CaptainRussia]

Being blackpilled doesn't mean we're not allowed to ask questions and offer advice.

And while we incels shouldn't expect to attract women, we shouldn't sell ourselves short either by expecting to be repulsive to other low status/ugly men.

i agree with you, except for the status part. i get stomped on by cashiers. its definetly looks. people look at me and think im a loser. i would need to proof myself to strangers.
i get into strangers faces quite often, or at least more often then i like, because they see my babyface and think they can do with me whatever they want. then i have to defend myself. they think im a pushover. no one wwants to have anything to do with someone who gets made fun of.
i see other people walking around without fear of beeing humiliated by strangers. without the slalom, because people make space. without the straight out insults.

an anecdote. i was going for a walk near the woods, with my wallet bulging out my jeans (i didnt care, its the woods), when an old man with his wife passed me. the old man turned to me and asked me "excuse me, i was wondering if you got some pebbles (reference to my bulging jeans)". i got in his face and said "yeah, a whole fist full" and formed a fist with my hand. then he got butthurt and threatened to call the police. shit like this happens to me daily and im sick of it. people think they can make fun of me, because they dont expect me to defend myself.

Sounds like these individual sports are, unfortunately, almost designed to ultimately isolate people like you. Have you considered team sports ever?



Then these people were clearly not serious about whatever game this was. I would find a more serious league if one's available, or else find something in which you can be a part of a team (if you're as skilled as it sounds like you are, your teammates will appreciate you rather than hate on you like these guys).



You shouldn't invite people with the built-in expectation that they'll reciprocate. They can sense that and it's a turn-off.


This is just not my experience at all and fails a basic logical test as well. Ugly men are generally some of the nicest people (they have to be, since they have literally nothing else going for them and thus they wouldn't even survive if they weren't ultra friendly).

the game is simple. you buy the new cards you win. you dont buy the new cards you dont win.

during martial arts training we had lots of team games for warmup. for swimming, we sometimes made team games too.

 

[micropenis29]

i agree with you, except for the status part. i get stomped on by cashiers. its definetly looks. people look at me and think im a loser. i would need to proof myself to strangers.

Who gives a fuck? You don't need to "prove yourself." That's normie blue-pilled nonsense. Stop giving a fuck about the way others look at you.

i get into strangers faces quite often, or at least more often then i like, because they see my babyface and think they can do with me whatever they want. then i have to defend myself.

This is your problem. Right here.

they think im a pushover. no one wwants to have anything to do with someone who gets made fun of.

No, you're very mistaken. No one wants to have anything to do with someone who seems insecure. And you're acting insecure every single time you get made fun of and react in a big emotional feelzy way to it. You need to shrug/laugh these idiots off.

an anecdote. i was going for a walk near the woods, with my wallet bulging out my jeans (i didnt care, its the woods), when an old man with his wife passed me. the old man turned to me and asked me "excuse me, i was wondering if you got some pebbles (reference to my bulging jeans)". i got in his face and said "yeah, a whole fist full" and formed a fist with my hand. then he got butthurt and threatened to call the police. shit like this happens to me daily and im sick of it. people think they can make fun of me, because they dont expect me to defend myself.

They think they can get a spastic reaction out of you, and they're right. You're failing the basic test of not giving a fuck when people try to trigger you. You're providing them a lot of free entertainment as well, while also making yourself appear extremely insecure to everyone around you. No wonder even the uglies don't want to be friends with you; they're afraid that you'll spaz at them.

the game is simple. you buy the new cards you win. you dont buy the new cards you dont win.

during martial arts training we had lots of team games for warmup. for swimming, we sometimes made team games too.

I'm talking about team sports, where it's literally impossible for you to not be on the same team as the people you're playing with. Individiual sports aren't going to work for you until you get your emotions in check.

 

[rabitter]

Sounds like these individual sports are, unfortunately, almost designed to ultimately isolate people like you. Have you considered team sports ever?



Then these people were clearly not serious about whatever game this was. I would find a more serious league if one's available, or else find something in which you can be a part of a team (if you're as skilled as it sounds like you are, your teammates will appreciate you rather than hate on you like these guys).



You shouldn't invite people with the built-in expectation that they'll reciprocate. They can sense that and it's a turn-off.


This is just not my experience at all and fails a basic logical test as well. Ugly men are generally some of the nicest people (they have to be, since they have literally nothing else going for them and thus they wouldn't even survive if they weren't ultra friendly).

You're white. I'm not. That explains our different experience.

 

[CaptainRussia]

Who gives a fuck? You don't need to "prove yourself." That's normie blue-pilled nonsense. Stop giving a fuck about the way others look at you.



This is your problem. Right here.



No, you're very mistaken. No one wants to have anything to do with someone who appears insecure. And you're appearing insecure every single time you get made fun of and react in a big emotional feelzy way to it. You need to shrug/laugh these idiots off.



They think they can get a spastic reaction out of you, and they're right. You're failing the basic test of not giving a fuck when people try to trigger you. You're providing them a lot of free entertainment as well, while also making yourself appear extremely insecure to everyone around you. No wonder even the uglies don't want to be friends with you.



I'm talking about team sports, where it's literally impossible for you to not be on the same team as the people you're playing with. Individiual sports aren't going to work for you until you get your emotions in check.

back in the day i would not give a fuck about anything. the issue is (and this is why i brought this anecdote) that people (like the old man) dont want to provoke a reaction. the old man stands no chance if he manages to "provoke a reaction". they want to put other people down to feel superior. and im killing their fun. same thing with the tournament. when the second judge started to make up bs rules i finished the game and said no word. great mistake. he got the tournament prize. i should've ruined his fun.

i wouldnt get into strangers faces when they would just leave me alone. if they wouldnt insult me i wouldnt need to defend myself. im not a psycopath who beats up random people. but i hit back if you hit me first.

but thats besides the point. i never made a fuzz in front of the people i invite.
there is alwas an excuse for beeing left out. but standing up for yourself isnt one of them. i got bullied physically for 10 years and i know what happens if you dont stand up for yourself. if someone touches me im gonna tear them a new one.
but this only applies to my thug neighbourhood. i never got in the faces of the people i invite.

 

[micropenis29]

You're white. I'm not. That explains our different experience.

Maybe. So you're saying that ugly men in your culture are just assholes to one another?

back in the day i would not give a fuck about anything. the issue is (and this is why i brought this anecdote) that people (like the old man) dont want to provoke a reaction. the old man stands no chance if he manages to "provoke a reaction". they want to put other people down to feel superior. and im killing their fun. same thing with the tournament. when the second judge started to make up bs rules i finished the game and said no word. great mistake. he got the tournament prize. i should've ruined his fun.

i wouldnt get into strangers faces when they would just leave me alone. if they wouldnt insult me i wouldnt need to defend myself. im not a psycopath who beats up random people. but i hit back if you hit me first.

These people didn't hit you though. They were just trolling you. The answer to your problems is to stop hanging around trolls and to stop feeding trolls. If you really felt superior to them (which you should since you're presumably wouldn't do the things they're doing) then you'd treat them the way foids treat us: like they don't even exist.