German culture is better than English culture

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Most people know the Grimm Brothers' fairy tales. Do the English have similar fairy tales in a collection?
The Hammer of Witches alone and the legend of Faust stand above Shakespeare in 16th-century art.

 

[Pancakecel]

There's no culture for either anymore, other than import brown people

 

[Dr. Autismo]

Most people know the Grimm Brothers' fairy tales. Do the English have similar fairy tales in a collection?
The Hammer of Witches alone and the legend of Faust stand above Shakespeare in 16th-century art.

English also like to think their gods gift because of their obnoxious faggot accents

 

[Trident]

English also like to think their gods gift because of their obnoxious faggot accents

bitish

 

[Dr. Autismo]

bitish

It's mostly the English who are the most guilty of this

 

[RandomGuy]

Both FAILed

 

[Nicusor_delaBraila]

Most people know the Grimm Brothers' fairy tales. Do the English have similar fairy tales in a collection?
The Hammer of Witches alone and the legend of Faust stand above Shakespeare in 16th-century art.

englands culture had been lost to modernist slop culture
in general urban areas tend to have monocultures across diferent cultural spheres
for example while the american rurual town and the english one are different their cities arent all too disimilar
that said for a nation to remain unique you need your population to not be all urbancels

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

englands culture had been lost to modernist slop culture
in general urban areas tend to have monocultures across diferent cultural spheres
for example while the american rurual town and the english one are different their cities arent all too disimilar
that said for a nation to remain unique you need your population to not be all urbancels

Even when I was reading European folklore and books as a child, English literature didn't resonate with me. However, fairy tales by the Brothers Grimm, Hoffmann's stories, legends about Faust, and others sparked my interest. I still enjoy reading German folklore.

 

[Trident]

englands culture had been lost to modernist slop culture

it's worldwide thing, due to globalization, internet.

 

[Nicusor_delaBraila]

Even when I was reading European folklore and books as a child, English literature didn't resonate with me. However, fairy tales by the Brothers Grimm, Hoffmann's stories, legends about Faust, and others sparked my interest. I still enjoy reading German folklore.

yea esp since english are living on an incel island
no wild beasts to fight no nothing
thats why a lot of their stories suck
largest carnivore in uk is a fox
also its very densely populated and they didnt have any contact with any empire so they dont have that many good adventurer tales

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

yea esp since english are living on an incel island
no wild beasts to fight no nothing
thats why a lot of their stories suck
largest carnivore in uk is a fox
also its very densely populated and they didnt have any contact with any empire so they dont have that many good adventurer tales

The only interesting legend that the English gave us is the legend of Beowulf.
But German legends and folklore are much deeper than just a hero slaying a monster. The legend of Faust gives you chills when you read it, imagine a story about a scientist who loved science so much that he sold his soul to the devil in exchange for knowledge about the world, only to be killed by the devil immediately after. Or German fairy tales. Where the stepmother can send the children away because the family has nothing to eat, and they end up in the house of a witch-ogress. Or the story of the Jewish swindler who was burned at the stake. The Brothers Grimm even had a fairy tale about a Jew in the thorns. German folklore is interesting because of its brutality and down-to-earth descriptions, with no idealism and a cold undertone. English legends, on the other hand, lack these elements.

 

[Nicusor_delaBraila]

The only interesting legend that the English gave us is the legend of Beowulf.
But German legends and folklore are much deeper than just a hero slaying a monster. The legend of Faust gives you chills when you read it, imagine a story about a scientist who loved science so much that he sold his soul to the devil in exchange for knowledge about the world, only to be killed by the devil immediately after. Or German fairy tales. Where the stepmother can send the children away because the family has nothing to eat, and they end up in the house of a witch-ogress. Or the story of the Jewish swindler who was burned at the stake. The Brothers Grimm even had a fairy tale about a Jew in the thorns. German folklore is interesting because of its brutality and down-to-earth descriptions, with no idealism and a cold undertone. English legends, on the other hand, lack these elements.

beowulf was made by german relatives too and at a time when england still had large animals

in our nation of romania we have tales about adventurers who forged their destinies , fought the devil, who were betrayed by their brothers and companions who served great kings , which kind of refrence the struggles of our people who managed to survive the slavic and turko-ungric invasions of the balkans and carpathia

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

beowulf was made by german relatives too and at a time when england still had large animals

in our nation of romania we have tales about adventurers who forged their destinies , fought the devil, who were betrayed by their brothers and companions who served great kings , which kind of refrence the struggles of our people who managed to survive the slavic and turko-ungric invasions of the balkans and carpathia

It's interesting that as a child, I had a collection of Russian fairy tales and a collection of German fairy tales by the Brothers Grimm in the original (with blood, brutality, and sex), and I preferred the latter much more. In German fairy tales, the characters mostly decide their own destinies, while in Russian fairy tales, the characters are always foolish and are given a magical artifact that solves their problems.

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

beowulf was made by german relatives too and at a time when england still had large animals

in our nation of romania we have tales about adventurers who forged their destinies , fought the devil, who were betrayed by their brothers and companions who served great kings , which kind of refrence the struggles of our people who managed to survive the slavic and turko-ungric invasions of the balkans and carpathia

In the German fairy tale Hansel and Gretel, the brother and sister use their wits to escape the witch and kill her, but in Russian fairy tales, they are always saved by someone else or use a magical tool.
In Russian folklore, the devil is always portrayed as foolish, and the main character constantly tricks him with simple tricks. In contrast, in German folklore and the Faust legend, Dr. Faust pays with his life for his desire to gain knowledge about the world.

 

[Nicusor_delaBraila]

In the German fairy tale Hansel and Gretel, the brother and sister use their wits to escape the witch and kill her, but in Russian fairy tales, they are always saved by someone else or use a magical tool.
In Russian folklore, the devil is always portrayed as foolish, and the main character constantly tricks him with simple tricks. In contrast, in German folklore and the Faust legend, Dr. Faust pays with his life for his desire to gain knowledge about the world.

ive noticed that the optimism of each culture is opposite in their tales
germans were mostly kind of sheltered from raids by barbarians or were themselves barbarians
meanwhile the rus had to deal with the horsemen of the steppes which were ruthless
my theory is that their stories were meant to inspire hope while the german ones were meant to remind the people that the world was a preety dark place
of course a lot of the dark stories could be based upon how devastating the catholic protestant wars were to germany

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

beowulf was made by german relatives too and at a time when england still had large animals

in our nation of romania we have tales about adventurers who forged their destinies , fought the devil, who were betrayed by their brothers and companions who served great kings , which kind of refrence the struggles of our people who managed to survive the slavic and turko-ungric invasions of the balkans and carpathia

In principle, to understand the soul of every nation, you need to read its fairy tales.

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

ive noticed that the optimism of each culture is opposite in their tales
germans were mostly kind of sheltered from raids by barbarians or were themselves barbarians
meanwhile the rus had to deal with the horsemen of the steppes which were ruthless
my theory is that their stories were meant to inspire hope while the german ones were meant to remind the people that the world was a preety dark place
of course a lot of the dark stories could be based upon how devastating the catholic protestant wars were to germany

That's the Russian mentality. It's all about fate and luck. Most fairy tales are about a fool who gets a magical fish that grants wishes. Or about an ordinary person who tricks the devil himself and gets a bunch of artifacts, transforming from a simple peasant into a king, and the king eventually gives his daughter to the peasant as a wife. It's all about luck, about finding a magical artifact or tricking the devil himself. Or having a king marry his daughter to a common peasant.

 

[Nicusor_delaBraila]

In principle, to understand the soul of every nation, you need to read its fairy tales.

true and to study its history
western europeans really had quite a good deal when compared to the rest of the world
slavs and balkaners got raided by turks and mongols
middle easterners had to face mongols
indians had to face numerous conquesrors
chinese had all those steppes
the indochinese had their local wars and also the mongols showed up at one point
ethipia had muslims fightin there
the americas and africa had brutal tribal warfare
the meds had barbary pirates and muslims
barbary had the spanish and turks to worry about

overall generally only japan and western europe have ever since the 1200-1300s had only civilized foes to fight

we can clearly see how these people who arent as needy for a strong communal system tend to develop more atheistic ideologies (protestantism, atheitsm, japanese buddhism mix)
most human populations are preety communal and religious
the western world (including scandinavia) and japan are really the exeption

however one exeption would be the americans since mostly farmers settled the usa early on meaning a lot of the martial prowess and religiousness of rural life made americans that way

 

[Nicusor_delaBraila]

That's the Russian mentality. It's all about fate and luck. Most fairy tales are about a fool who gets a magical fish that grants wishes. Or about an ordinary person who tricks the devil himself and gets a bunch of artifacts, transforming from a simple peasant into a king, and the king eventually gives his daughter to the peasant as a wife. It's all about luck, about finding a magical artifact or tricking the devil himself. Or having a king marry his daughter to a common peasant.

a lot of romanian tales are status pilled for example about a king needing to marry off his daughter and messaging some other king to send their sons over and only the chad youngest one whos high t and low inhib but also high iq does it

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

a lot of romanian tales are status pilled for example about a king needing to marry off his daughter and messaging some other king to send their sons over and only the chad youngest one whos high t and low inhib but also high iq does it

Russian fairy tales have the same thing, with one exception: the youngest son is stupid. He is literally called Ivan the Fool, who does stupid things and ends up succeeding not because of his intelligence, but because of his luck.

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

a lot of romanian tales are status pilled for example about a king needing to marry off his daughter and messaging some other king to send their sons over and only the chad youngest one whos high t and low inhib but also high iq does it

And yes, Ivan the Fool comes from the lowest social class of peasants, which does not prevent him from marrying the king's daughter. That is, it's all about luck.

 

[Nicusor_delaBraila]

And yes, Ivan the Fool comes from the lowest social class of peasants, which does not prevent him from marrying the king's daughter. That is, it's all about luck.

yeah it sometimes is like that
can understand them coping with the bluepill with how much they had to endure

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

yeah it sometimes is like that
can understand them coping with the bluepill with how much they had to endure

It's just a cultural code. The same goes for everything else. You either get lucky or you don't. In Western stories, there's always a heroic theme where the protagonist overcomes themselves, grows, and achieves something through hard work. In Eastern stories, you might encounter a "lamp with a genie" that grants your wishes or a stroke of luck that allows you to achieve your goals without much effort.

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

yeah it sometimes is like that
can understand them coping with the bluepill with how much they had to endure

Even if the main character of western folklore gets something easily, like Faust getting what he wanted from the devil, there is an inevitable price to pay. When Faust asks the devil to reveal the secrets of the universe, the devil tears the old man apart after giving him the knowledge.

 

[Jimb0]

Whatever is left of it in Germanistan

 

[Shark]

There's no culture for either anymore, other than import brown people

 

[Shark]

Germany? More like Goymanistan

 

[Shark]

Both FAILed

Yes bro. Kavkaz power!

 

[AutistSupremacist]

Who is the english equivalent of Wagner?

 

[underballer]

too late everyone speaks english

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Who is the english equivalent of Wagner?

Hell knows. English culture is soulless.

 

[Chairman Gonzolo]

The world is fucked up because of Anglo concepts.

 

[Chairman Gonzolo]

Who is the english equivalent of Wagner?

O9A

 

[Rapemaxxer]

too late everyone speaks english

 

[Defetivecuckachu]

And then he said, "German culture is better than English culture!"

 

[Roastie Crusher]

Hell knows. English culture is soulless.

Wagner took from the Arthurian legend that was created by a French guy and re-popularized by Queen Victoria(German).


Also, Vril was written by a Brit and adopted by the Thule society and the Nazis.


Shakespeare was most like written by written by a group of people led by a jewess.(Shakespeare wrote a play about Venice despite not being well traveled. Jews are known for their longstanding habitation of the Republic of Venice.)

German and Russian folkfore sounds a lot like Jewish folklore.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Yes, there are striking and well-documented overlaps between German, Russian, and Jewish folklore — especially in the Eastern European contact zone where Germans, Slavs, and Ashkenazi Jews lived side-by-side for almost a thousand years (roughly Poland, Ukraine, Belarus, Lithuania, Galicia, Bohemia, etc.).
The similarities are not because one tradition copied the other wholesale, but because of centuries of direct borrowing, bilingual storytelling, and shared cultural space.
Here are the clearest, best-studied parallels:

1. Demonology and household spirits​

Creature / motif	German / Austrian	Russian	Yiddish / East-European Jewish	Notes
House spirit that helps or punishes	Kobold, Heinzelmännchen, Nis	Domovoy	Shedik / sheyd (pl. sheydim)	All live behind the stove or in the walls, demand a bowl of porridge, get angry if you whistle or swear in the house
Forest spirit that leads people astray	Rübezahl, Wild Huntsman, Moss People	Leshy	Der Vilder Mann, Brodnitza	Same tricks: spinning people around, mimicking voices, tickling to death
Water spirit that drowns people	Nix / Nixe	Rusalka, Vodianoy	Vaser-nix, vaser-moyd	Often beautiful women who lure men into water

2. Magic objects and wonder-tales (ATU catalogue types)​

Many tale types are identical across the three traditions, often with only the names changed:

Tale type (Aarne-Thompson-Uther)	German (Grimm) example	Russian example	Yiddish example
ATU 313 – The Magic Flight	“The Devil with the Three Golden Hairs”	“The Firebird and Princess Vasilisa”	“Der yung mit der fliegnder shif”
ATU 480 – The Kind and Unkind Girls	“Frau Holle” (gold & pitch)	“Morozko” (Frost)	“Di tsneye un di shneye” (The two step-sisters and the witch)
ATU 709 – Snow-White	“Schneeweißchen”	“The Tale of the Dead Princess” (Pushkin)	“Shneyvitshke”
ATU 425 – Search for the Lost Husband	“The Frog King” (variant)	“The Frog Princess”	“Der frosht-prinz”

Yiddish versions are often closer to the Slavic ones than to the Grimm versions.

3. Specific shared figures and motifs​

• Lilith → German “Lille”, Russian “Lilit”, Yiddish “Lilis” – all the child-killing night demon.
• The Wandering Jew (Ahasver) appears in German chapbooks (1602), then migrates into Russian folklore as “Vechnyi Zhid” and Yiddish as “Der Eybiker Yid”.
• The Golem (Prague, 16th c.) has direct parallels in Russian tales of clay men animated by sorcerers (e.g., in Afanasyev) and German alchemical homunculi.
• “Master and Servant” trickster tales (where the clever servant outwits the devil) are almost identical in Yiddish (Hershele Ostropoler stories), German (Till Eulenspiegel), and Russian (Ivan the Fool vs. devils).

4. Why the overlap is so strong​

• 10th–19th century: Ashkenazi Jews spoke a Germanic language (Yiddish) while living in Slavic lands → constant bilingualism.
• Professional storytellers (German Spielmann, Yiddish badchan, Russian skomorokh) performed at the same markets and weddings.
• Jewish, German, and Slavic villages often shared the same forests, rivers, and abandoned castles → same “haunted” locations produced parallel legends.
• Printed chapbooks circulated in German, Yiddish, and Old Church Slavonic/Russian from the 17th century onward, translating stories back and forth.

Bottom line​

German, Russian, and Jewish (Ashkenazi) folklore in Eastern Europe form a single intertwined tradition for most practical purposes.
A Yiddish tale collected in 1910 in Volhynia can be nearly word-for-word the same as a Russian tale from the same region and a German tale from Silesia — just with different character names and one or two religious details swapped.
Scholars now often speak of an East-European fairy-tale continuum rather than three separate traditions.

 

[HeroinNihilism]

Most people know the Grimm Brothers' fairy tales. Do the English have similar fairy tales in a collection?
The Hammer of Witches alone and the legend of Faust stand above Shakespeare in 16th-century art.

i agree that american culture is bland af