Fucking hell

[inceloser]

you ever wake up from a dream where you're fucking the love of your life?
i was sleeping soundly enjoying my dream and all of a sudden my alarm went off. holy fuck, the amount of RAGE. the alarm was quite literally MOCKING my incel ass
"Wake up nigga, wake up to reality."

 

[Logic55]

Having sex with your crush? CHAD ONLY

 

[Ahnfeltia]

you ever wake up from a dream where you're fucking the love of your life?

No. The last I dreamt of having sex was about a year ago I think and I've never had a oneitis.

 

[Ahnfeltia]

unless you nofap, your dreams will often be symbolic metaphores that are a byproduct of your mind processing material, this whole "dream as wish fulfilment" is holywood nonsense, I've recorded hundreds of dreams and they have never been anything like that

I've always considered my dreams pretty random. You're saying you've found parallels between the contents of your dreams and your daily life?

 

[inceloser]

You're saying you've found parallels between the contents of your dreams and your daily life?

Yes I have, I often have dreams that become a reality. Like when I dreamt I'd get jumped by this black guy after school, It fucking happened.

 

[SmhChan]

no. never.

unless you nofap, your dreams will often be symbolic metaphores that are a byproduct of your mind processing material, this whole "dream as wish fulfilment" is holywood nonsense, I've recorded hundreds of dreams and they have never been anything like that

so you're probably lying

Yeah! Never had one either. Weird and surprising considering the extreme feelings I used to have.

 

[FinnCel]

No, because almost all of my dreams are nightmares

 

[HeinrichHimmler]

I suspect that dream sexual intercourse is fake and actually based on memories of masturbating during our waking hours. Because it seems impossible for our brains to accurately simulate an experience we've never had.

 

[Ahnfeltia]

I suspect that dream sexual intercourse is fake and actually based on memories of masturbating during our waking hours. Because it seems impossible for our brains to accurately simulate an experience we've never had.

Now that you mention it. Astutely noted. You're probably right.

 

[HeinrichHimmler]

Now that you mention it. Astutely noted. You're probably right.

Another theory I have about dreaming is that the sensation of flying in a dream is based on memories of irl experiences of an upthrust force, like swimming or riding the elevator. Basically anything you experience irl can also be simulated in a dream, which is why pinching yourself to wake up won't work.

 

[incelmadara]

WARNING: BLACKPILL SUICIDE FUEL!

Imagine this curry from 2:03


View: https://youtu.be/ENobjHWciVk?si=v8qFtpp01ZcFQdWd


Do you think he dreams about kissing women just to wake up in suicidal thoughts?

Yes reality sucks. I hate having sexdreams just to wake up as an ethnic loser.

Man im glad I dont have low enough testosterone/autism to just laugh about it.

Listen: if a woman puts you in a friendzone it is the natures way of saying that your genes are too shity. Over.

 

[Ahnfeltia]

I was psychologymaxxing for a while, the dreams are symbolic and there were recurring patterns for sure, it's not random at all.

there are my daydreams, which fall into two kinds:
1. maladaptive fantasies (not always pleasant)
2. the random thoughts that occur to me

and then there are
3. night dreams

fantasies are rather repetitive, some emotional complex or repressed emotion acted out / an itch is scratched

random thoughts (say I think about "Bane" from the batman movies) - seem random at first, I can say: "well this is just some character from a movie, I don't have time for this shit"
but then if I try to assume my subconscious gave it to me for a reason, I can see that
"Bane" is a symbol, that is associated with many topics:
morality (villain), politics, charisma, lookism, trauma and pain shaping a person
the list goes on - all the sudden it's not longer "goofy bad guy from movie/ childish"

so the subconscious can pack a lot of information into one symbol like that,
it can seem meaningless and silly if you discredit it straight away
it also doesn't fit into your schedule and current TODO list like you'd want

now a night dream takes this to the max: it can probably be about shit that happened to you when you were just a child and has shaped your life every single day - your attitude, beliefs.. Something that is invisible to you, like the air you breath

note that you can also have a nightmare where you daily worries leak into the dreamstate, so it will be some straightforward shit like a dream about "running out of money" when you're literally about to be broke IRL

but we do forget dreams by default, which makes me question the point of thinking about them in conscious life

the process was extremely painful, and I'm not enlightened. I gave up but if you're still self-improoving you can look into that kind of shit, it's interesting for sure (unfortunately very painful though)

I was mostly talking about night dreams. I'm well aware my daydreams are anything but random. As you said, they tend to fall into one of several oft-revisited catagories.

While I don't care about self-improoving -- I actually quite liked my recent dreams -- I am curious as to what makes me tick subconsciously. Why I dream of what I dream. Why I dream more often (or remember more often) during autumn and winter. Why my night dreams are nothing like my daydreams. Etc.

Thanks for your elaborate response. Maybe I'll try analyzing of what I'm dreaming about a little bit. I doubt I'll find the answers to the aforementioned questions, but where's the harm in trying... is what I was about to say until I remembered you said it was painful for you. Could I ask you why?

 

[Ahnfeltia]

Another theory I have about dreaming is that the sensation of flying in a dream is based on memories of irl experiences of an upthrust force, like swimming or riding the elevator.

That reminds me. At least once I dreamt of flying when I was younger. While I hardly remember anything of my past, I vividly remember a few excerpts from that (those) dream(s). I don't think it felt like swimming or riding an elevator. But, like I said, my recollection is mostly gone, so who really even knows. In particular, I tend to remember the course of events more than how I felt.

Basically anything you experience irl can also be simulated in a dream, which is why pinching yourself to wake up won't work.

I've never once tried pincing myself in a dream I don't think. You?

 

[HeinrichHimmler]

That reminds me. At least once I dreamt of flying when I was younger. While I hardly remember anything of my past, I vividly remember a few excerpts from that (those) dream(s). I don't think it felt like swimming or riding an elevator. But, like I said, my recollection is mostly gone, so who really even knows. In particular, I tend to remember the course of events more than how I felt.

Whenever I dreamed about flying it felt like swimming, riding in a fast-moving vehicle, bouncing on a trampoline or being pushed up by an elevator, i.e. being acted on by an external force.

I've never once tried pincing myself in a dream I don't think. You?

I remember getting kicked in a dream and it actually hurt but I didn't wake up from the pain lol.

 

[Ahnfeltia]

the subconscious shit is where all your pain is, buried under coping mechasims
coping mechanisms are like deals with the devil: you avoid something extremely painful but you pay interest on it, distorting yourself always leaves this itch you can't scratch, a splinter in your mind
so undoing that is opening a jack in the box, it unleashes emotions that are physically and psychologically painful to express and experience, it can last months
there are limits to how often you can put effort into it before the subconscious begins to resist you (it tries to perseve your personality) / the body needs rest from shoveling up trauma (yelling / shaking / crying is exhausting)
and I'm not even sure if it's worth it - I gave up after all, instead of finding some inner strength and a positive spiral I became even more blackpilled.
I did get some exteremly incredible peak experiences - but they only served to highlight to me how good things can get, and how I don't have that.

there's also something unnatural and maddening about it: like a snake eating it's own tail
you start questioning every thought you have, and then the doubts you have about the doubts you have
you're not sure if that inner dialogue is you or some rogue entity in your mind

Sounds like you really had a rough time with it. Sorry to hear it brocel.

don't get me started bro... lol.

I won't. Just one more question, about me. From what I understood, you said that the subconscious, which houses our pains, informs our night dreams, yet, between my daydreams and night dreams, the former are the more gloomy ones. How do I rhyme that? Sounds like my conscious is more pained than my subconscious.

 

[Ahnfeltia]

Whenever I dreamed about flying it felt like swimming, riding in a fast-moving vehicle, bouncing on a trampoline or being pushed up by an elevator, i.e. being acted on by an external force.

Interesting. Did you fly like Superman or like a bird?

I remember getting kicked in a dream and it actually hurt but I didn't wake up from the pain lol.

That sucks. Still beats having to pee in your dream tho

 

[HeinrichHimmler]

Interesting. Did you fly like Superman or like a bird?

Like Superman, no wings or jetpack needed.

 

[Ahnfeltia]

Like Superman, no wings or jetpack needed.

My flying was more birdlike. Flapping my arms like wings if I recall correctly. Perhaps that explains the difference? I doubt it tbh, but still.

 

[HeinrichHimmler]

Still beats having to pee in your dream tho

I've never had to pee in a dream, tho I worry if I ever do I'll end up emptying my bladder irl too

 

[Ahnfeltia]

Yes I have, I often have dreams that become a reality. Like when I dreamt I'd get jumped by this black guy after school, It fucking happened.

Sounds hard to believe tbh, but who am I to doubt. Sorry for derailing your thread btw.

 

[Ahnfeltia]

I've never had to pee in a dream, tho I worry if I ever do I'll end up emptying my bladder irl too

I've been there several times. Sometimes my dreamself decided to wake up, sometimes he didn't
Luckily I haven't had to pee in a dream for a long time now.

 

[inceloser]

Sounds hard to believe tbh, but who am I to doubt. Sorry for derailing your thread btw.

No its all good man, I read every word you guys said. Very interesting

 

[Ahnfeltia]

No its all good man, I read every word you guys said. Very interesting

glad to hear it