Free will does not exist

[M. Bison]

The brain will never choose the option it deems inferior, given the information available. Never. This is self-evident.

 

[WorldRulerAisha]

huh

 

[Kointo1]

Wrong. The ability to make irrational choices with the information on the outcomes of our actions is what differentiates us from other animals. Instinct is strong, but not that strong. If I decided to push my lamp on the floor for no other reason than to just do it, I would be able to do it, even though it is an inferior choice to just leaving it alone.

 

[IronMike]

The brain will never choose the option it deems inferior, given the information available. Never. This is self-evident.

nah, I always pick the character I like when playing games like Injustice 2. I COULD spam Supergirl but I choose to use my homeboy Firestorm

 

[malakai]

Then you aren't responsible for your position as Incel

 

[microDongCityUSA]

there's definitely a duality, like being able to notice how your body wants certain things and can autopilot with it to its urges or whatever that thing aware behind it all and decide to do otherwise

 

[demonanus]

There's no soul. Only biology and chemistry

 

[nausea]

neither freedom, indeed

 

[nosiB]

Free will cannot be observed. Free will doesn't exist, but it doesn't matter, because as humans our frame of reference and decision-making are part of the same flow of events as everything else. Our thoughts are just as predetermined as everything else, and realizing that changes nothing.

 

[Ryo_Hazuki]

We are nothing more than the products of our genetics and environment.

More simply, causality disproves free will.

 

[Deleted member 776]

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/quantum-physics-free-will/

 

[Jockcel]

Wrong. The ability to make irrational choices with the information on the outcomes of our actions is what differentiates us from other animals. Instinct is strong, but not that strong. If I decided to push my lamp on the floor for no other reason than to just do it, I would be able to do it, even though it is an inferior choice to just leaving it alone.

 

[PM_ME_STRIPPERS]

its over

 

[_incelinside]

Wrong. The ability to make irrational choices with the information on the outcomes of our actions is what differentiates us from other animals. Instinct is strong, but not that strong. If I decided to push my lamp on the floor for no other reason than to just do it, I would be able to do it, even though it is an inferior choice to just leaving it alone.

Yeah but if you choose to push the lamp you will be doing it for a reason; to prove you can. Everything we do has a rationale behind it which is a result of previous experiences.

 

[Kointo1]

Yeah but if you choose to push the lamp you will be doing it for a reason; to prove you can. Everything we do has a rationale behind it which is a result of previous experiences.

hmmmmm I don't know maybe you're right

 

[Kointo1]

Bump

It's a fascinating topic that I want to know more about.

 

[Deleted member 2119]

Bump

It's a fascinating topic that I want to know more about.

We have to define "Free will" first

 

[Kointo1]

We have to define "Free will" first

The ability to make decisions with conscious thought?

 

[Deleted member 2119]

The ability to make decisions with conscious thought?

It's a hard topic because all of our thoughts are influenced by our genes and environment.

 

[Kointo1]

It's a hard topic because all of our thoughts are influenced by our genes and environment.

We make thoughts based off of those things, yeah.