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Found a super old book basically saying what we are saying

It is called

Women As Sex Vendors - or, Why Women Are Conservative (Being a View of the Economic - Status of Woman)

It was written in 1918 by Roscoe Tobias and Mary Marcy. Literally no one in the manosphere has heard of it.

some quotes:


“The psychology of the sexes in youth is totally different. The ideas of the average young man are those of one who expects to become some day a producer or at least a worker; the ideas of the average young woman are those of one who expects and intends (for here, too, Youth sees only personal victory) to rise into the leisure, non-producing or supported class.“

“The young man expects to accomplish something in the world, to earn much money, or "high position," in order to be able to marry the most charming girl. The "most charming girl," if she be temporarily forced to earn her own living, expects to find somebody who will marry her, give her more luxuries than she has been accustomed to, and lift her far above her companions. She hopes to become a member of the leisure class even if she never attains it.“

“Women are potential parasites even if they never become real ones, and this is the gist of the matter we are discussing. Why are nearly all small farmers reactionary, individualistic, distrustful, competitive? Because they hope some day to become gentleman farmers. Why are most small business men narrow, egoistic, conservative? For the reason that they hope one day to become men of Big Business. The young woman in America today possesses the same psychology. Being young, she not only hopes, she expects, to rise into the leisure class when some young man asks her for the privilege of supporting her through life.“

“Women, as a sex, are the owners of a commodity vitally necessary to the health and well-being of man“ “As a sex, women occupy a position similar to the petty shop-keeper, because they possess a commodity to sell or to barter. Men, as a sex, are buyers of, or barterers for, this commodity.“

“[Man] has four vital needs to satisfy while woman has only three, and woman possesses, for barter, for sale, or for gift, the wherewithall to satisfy one of these.“

“The more economic power a group, or a class, or a sex possesses, the more the state throws the mantle of its protective laws about it. Women are owners of a commodity for which men are buyers or barterers, and our modern laws protect woman at the expense of man.“

“The beautiful woman sees no need for intelligence nor for understanding because she has always been able to outstrip her less attractive competitors in making the best match and securing the rich husbands. And so her neurones rarely "connect," or react, except to stimuli pertaining to things that will enhance her charms and increase her selling price.“

“That there are [virtually] no women hoboes in the civilized world today is, [...] incontestable proof of the superiority of the economic status of woman over man”.

“Men love to [..] provide [women] with luxurious surroundings, because this advertises to the world the fact that they are able to purchase a superior, i. e., a higher priced commodity“

“Why, do you imagine, the woman who brings to a penniless husband, not only herself but a fortune as well, is looked down upon in many countries? [...] Is it not because both are unconsciously violating the code, or the trade "understandings," in giving not only of themselves, but their substance as well? These women are selling below the market, or scabbing on the job.“

"It is one of the most absurd notions derived from eighteenth century enlightenment that in the beginning of society woman was the slave of man. Among all savages and barbarians of the lower and middle stages, sometimes even of the higher stage, women not only have freedom but are held in high esteem."

"No matter how little the provocation, legally or sentimentally, any woman may kill almost any man, and the jury will render a verdict of Not Guilty. She has only to say that he "deceived her.""
 
Women's rights was a mistake but it was invetable
Women has ammassed enough social Power in the 1920s that ignoring them was not possible
And eventually I would've happened given the Egalitarian "Democratic" nature of America
 
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According to a study by UCLA, muscle-bound men report almost 3 times as many sexual partners as men without a muscular physique.<ref>http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/Lift-More-Weights-Get-More-Mates-8069?RelNum=8069</ref>
https://incels.wiki/w/index.php?title=Muscle_theory
if you have a medical condition that prevents weightlifting or you are feminine person then obviously this does not apply, but most incels here can do this as most seem to want to be masculine anyway
3x homosexual partners:lul::lul:
 
This thread definitely belongs here. Men were black pilled about women long ago. Before the current SJW, PC, feminist cultural climate, you could openly state the truth about these things and people - both men and women - would look at you like, "yeah, no shit. What about it?"
 
This thread definitely belongs here. Men were black pilled about women long ago. Before the current SJW, PC, feminist cultural climate, you could openly state the truth about these things and people - both men and women - would look at you like, "yeah, no shit. What about it?"
 
Less hope day by day but really good lecture
 
Less hope day by day but really good lecture
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What is interesting is that the writer was a "female marxist".
 
Yeah, pretty enlightening stuff given that its "old". Makes you really appreciate the men before you.
 
Take the sex vendor pill folks.
 
What exactly would "producer" mean in 1918?
 
What exactly would "producer" mean in 1918?
About to start reading but I’d guess as to being a productive member of society, no?
 
It is called

Women As Sex Vendors - or, Why Women Are Conservative (Being a View of the Economic - Status of Woman)

It was written in 1918 by Roscoe Tobias and Mary Marcy. Literally no one in the manosphere has heard of it.

some quotes:
Thank you for the recommendation I'm gonna go find it on the Internet now.
 
“The more economic power a group, or a class, or a sex possesses, the more the state throws the mantle of its protective laws about it.
“The beautiful woman sees no need for intelligence nor for understanding because she has always been able to outstrip her less attractive competitors in making the best match and securing the rich husbands. And so her neurones rarely "connect," or react, except to stimuli pertaining to things that will enhance her charms and increase her selling price.“
Women min-maxxing @GeckoBus

Based and blackpilled.
 
“The young man expects to accomplish something in the world, to earn much money, or "high position," in order to be able to marry the most charming girl. The "most charming girl," if she be temporarily forced to earn her own living, expects to find somebody who will marry her, give her more luxuries than she has been accustomed to, and lift her far above her companions. She hopes to become a member of the leisure class even if she never attains it.“
In a "trad" society, and really any society though some virtue signal about it, a woman who works is a temporarily-embarrassed non-working enjoyer of luxuries, the same way a rich guy who fell on hard times is:feelsugh:. @GeckoBus @SmhChan

"No matter how little the provocation, legally or sentimentally, any woman may kill almost any man, and the jury will render a verdict of Not Guilty. She has only to say that he "deceived her.""
And not just men.


 
In a "trad" society, and really any society though some virtue signal about it, a woman who works is a temporarily-embarrassed non-working enjoyer of luxuries, the same way a rich guy who fell on hard times is:feelsugh:. @GeckoBus @SmhChan


And not just men.


:lul: :lul: :lul:
exactly exactly, the irish constitution from the 40s literally says mothers shouldnt work.
The Constitution of the Republic of Ireland (written in 1937) explicitly states women – and only women – shall not be obliged to work:
the State shall, therefore, endeavour to insure mothers shall not be obliged by economic necessity to engage in labour

"Trad" is such a weird term honestly. Who tf started this idea of the "traditional" time? Our time will be the tradition of the future. We are living traditional times right now ffs :feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha:
 
@Sugar Cookie , this a fren of you're's?
 
Trad" is such a weird term honestly. Who tf started this idea of the "traditional" time?
in the US they had a saying in 70s called "back to the land" in the 1900s they coined the saying of women in the 1800s as "True Womanhood"

The core tenets of True Womanhood, often summarized by the acronym PIPS, were:
  • Piety: Women were expected to be deeply religious and the moral compass of the family.
  • Purity: Sexual purity was paramount. Women were expected to be virgins until marriage and remain chaste within it.
  • Submission: Women were expected to be submissive to their fathers and husbands.
  • Domesticity: A woman's place was in the home, managing the household and raising children.
 
In a "trad" society, and really any society though some virtue signal about it, a woman who works is a temporarily-embarrassed non-working enjoyer of luxuries, the same way a rich guy who fell on hard times is:feelsugh:. @
GeckoBus
@GeckoBus @
SmhChan
@SmhChan
True. Any inequalities between men and foids can be explained with the inequalities between poor and rich. It's almost a parallel at this point. Fucking 19-year-olds vacationing in the most luxurious resorts while her male counterpart is rotting in the basement.
Nurses are some of the biggest pieces of shits in the world. Everyone laser focuses on mishaps of men. For example, in America, "medical negligence" (though not sure how much of it is actual negligence :feelsUgh: ) is the 3rd highest cause of deaths. Foids are an overwhelming majority in medical industry in the west. Fucking incompetent psychopaths.
 
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- 1918
- Super old
 
In a "trad" society, and really any society though some virtue signal about it, a woman who works is a temporarily-embarrassed non-working enjoyer of luxuries, the same way a rich guy who fell on hard times is:feelsugh:. @GeckoBus @SmhChan


And not just men.


Stop necroposting
 
Stop necroposting

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They were discussing the topic of the post in the replies to each other here, such as the reply of @GeckoBus to @WorthlessSlavicShit. It wasn't "plain agreement, [with the original post] mere quoting, and meaningless one-liners"

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“Why, do you imagine, the woman who brings to a penniless husband (who also isn't a PSL god), not only herself but a fortune as well, is looked down upon in many countries? [...] Is it not because both are unconsciously violating the code, or the trade "understandings," in giving not only of themselves, but their substance as well? These women are selling below the market, or scabbing on the job.“
 

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