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Toxic Femininity Foids starting to notice toxic egalitarian dynamics : blame it on ze patriarchy of course !

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Why Men Leave Female-Dominated Professions

Perceiving femininity as inferior, and what we can do about it

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Look at how they frame it without giving it a second thought and, i assume, without interrogating any normal man : "men see femininity as inferior, that's why they dont want to work with women ! It's on them !"

This is such a simplistic, blaming cop-out. Of course, one could mention the existence male-hostile attitudes in female dominated fields, therefore the rightful reluctance of men to work there or the reluctance of HR to even hire them if not it's tendancy to fire or replace them. But given that they seek to blame men morally by pretending to scrutinize their very psyche, i will take their BS at face value, just to show how much truth is ahead of any feministic foid's BS. :feelsUgh:

The toxic egalitarian dynamic they mention and seem to consider as something new was reported as far as the 50's, and imo the most significant of cases is when women started to enter the originally male-dominated cheerleading, hardly a very competitive field therefore not an ego thing, and yet the very same thing happened : men started to leave. But not only until almost not a single one of them was left, but until the esthetic and social codes of the field completely changed and became thoroughly feminized. People's disbelief when i tell them that cheerleading used to be a male activity is proof of how symbolically potent and subversive feminity is, as it devoured the previous male symbolism as far as up to it's MEMORY, it's possibility of HAVING MERELY EXISTED.

Something virile, sporty and serious - therefore solemn - became dainty, lascivious and jolly - therefore frivolous.

In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, cheerleading at sporting events was largely a male domain. It was about leading organized chants and encouraging the crowd, often using physical strength to control the energy of the audience.

How'd you make this version cohabit with the current one ? :feelskek: Now men are usually nowhere to be seen and when they are they're just beasts of burden holding foids for theirs stunts. It's safe to assume that, due to their maleness, they generally have no intimate participation in the cheerleading female social circles, despite their creation through a shared activity. How nice huh ?

If such a dramatic and zero-sum unfolding is the conclusion, it perfectly justifies the gut feeelings those retreating men had : sharing the activity with Becca, Molly and Amy fucking sucked because, above all, they simply felt uncomfortable as the rise of foids participation led to a massive and inevitable perception shift be it for the onlookers or the participants, be it external or autoreflexive ; a sane man is compelled to feel ontologically attacked when foids try to cohabit with his codes, his identity, because he knows that they're deeply different - not necessarily MUH INFERIOR but DIFFERENT - AND THE WHOLE WORLD IS THERE TO MAKE HIM REMEMBER IT, ESPECIALLY WOMEN THEMSELVES, even moreso than his own fucking psyche.

One might then retort that why women don't feel the same thing ? I think the response lies in the developement itself ; there's practically no reverse example of what i developed here, ie women devouring men symbolically through sheer presence. Because, staying on the topic of cheerleading, the aforementioned dichotomy between solemnity and frivolity obviously evoke rigidity/verticality faced with fluidity/horizontality, and one can't be collectively solemn without esprit de corps (a word often used in military doctrine, directly pertaining to male camaradery), ie some level of rigid/vertical autoreflexive gendered identification which is incompatible with a fluid/horizontal model :

"Esprit de corps refers to the loyalty one gives to their peers in relation to society, the nation, or beliefs. In practice, this requires having shared experiences (positive or negative) that create a sense of being 'apart.' Subsequently, when the survival or simply the interests of the group are threatened, its members will rally together more effectively in its favor: they 'form a united front.'
In its positive sense, esprit de corps allows, for example, a group of veterans to have better discipline and greater trust, or a sports team to better withstand setbacks (it then closely resembles team spirit, but at a deeper level)."

While frivolity is being pretty, admired for it and having a good time - how were men supposed to fucking relate to that ? The esprit de corps was crushed while women were having fun, it's a proto annoying TEEHEE. Foids gendered identification is automatic and takes no effort, but it's precisely why it's stronger than ours in contemporary chaotic social contexts ; by means of it's fluidity/horizontality it will penetrate a porous rigid male structure as well as cut it at it's vertical base, which is exactly what happened for male cheerleading - men and women actually couldn't coexist without women destroying their space and taking over it.

This is but a microcosm, but it's one of the many possible egalitarian induced manifestations of an ontological unbalance between men and women. And if men feel it no matter the space, then it means that their instinct are right. It's less about perceiving femininity as inferior but rather as deeply different, annoying and subversive in nature, because it fucking is. Men are totally right to feel that way lest they end up like this poor forgotten spectre of a male cheerleader - with no identity and totally subverted.

And maybe the most cruel thing is that this not only happens on it's own, but foids - now that we're not in the 50's - actually enforce it as everyone knows : HR, false accusations, making you walk on eggshells, etc, but they still have the gall to shit out such articles. Edit : I didn't read it by the way as i have no access to it, but a comment does mention cheerleading so she touched on the subject apparently but i bet she doesnt explore the why and how as she's only there to blame men. What an insufferable cunt.
 
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Gosh i want to roundhouse kick her. I cant stand how those bitches are so ignorant yet so arrogant, influencing people with their sophistry. Fucking bitch. I'd bet big money her article is crap.
 
JUST WEAR A MINI SKIRT AND SHAKE YOUR ASS YOU SEXIST THIS IS REALLY HOW THOSE STUPID HOLES APPROACH THE DIALECTIC OF THE SEXES IT MAKES ME SO FUCKING MAD TO SEE THIS SHIT EVERYXHE
 
I’m not gonna voluntarily read womansplaining. As the Jew already pointed out, patriarchy is a catch-all term. They conclude that every social phenomenon is due to the patriarchy, and then they find their evidence and concoct their reasoning around that conclusion.
 
I just read the article (it's easy to access it actually) and as expected this dumb, vapid bitch doesnt say anything of value. She just piles up a bunch of events like the one i explored here, doesnt bother to analyze the specifics of them even in the slightest and then adds some feminist shit on top of it, the kind that says women still face horrible discriminations in male fields while women looooooove men in female spaces ! The fucking cheek of it. It's funny cause i know only two persons working in corpo shit and both of them have several misandric anecdotes.

And her senseless accusations towards men are disgusting.
That's right. Some men would rather not have a job at all than work in a female-dominated field and suffer through the experience of being associated with femininity.
"That's right." :foidSoy:
Maybe she should explore what "associated with femininity" means on a deeper level for men just as i did here, but being around such an egoistic, self-centered, self-righteouss and crypto-hostile bitch is an example in and of itself of what it means for men in contemporary times : it's depressing and insulting.
Torre said it well when she wrote: "women are culturally devalued and skills perceived as female are systematically under-rewarded."
Lmao and yet she's using the example of a male-dominated field becoming completely eclipsed by women, which has nothing to do with being undervalued, cheerleading being a very strong cultural aspect of american femininity. The whole article is like that - a bunch of bullshit.

They just cant help it. They have to play victim right as they're beheading you. Just like the jew "crying in pain as he attacks you" :feelskek:
 
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Gosh i want to roundhouse kick her. I cant stand how those bitches are so ignorant yet so arrogant, influencing people with their sophistry. Fucking bitch. I'd bet big money her article is crap.
Time to raid Harbor Freight for some crowbars...
 
I have to work with foids. I treat them like I do cops since they can both have me arrested for nothing. I am very nice to them and do my best to not seem like I'm faking it. Truly being around whores is a nightmare. It wouldn't be if I wasn't born ugly. Or maybe it still would but with different problems. I can feel myself dying now
 
Time to raid Harbor Freight for some crowbars...
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I have to work with foids. I treat them like I do cops since they can both have me arrested for nothing. I am very nice to them and do my best to not seem like I'm faking it. Truly being around whores is a nightmare. It wouldn't be if I wasn't born ugly. Or maybe it still would but with different problems. I can feel myself dying now
Yeah there's many aspects to it. I guess i explored only one here, male esthetics, camaradery and self identification faced with foids subversion, but it takes many forms. Although this cheerleader stuff should be a case study of how women destroy male spaces.
 
Btw some feminists would celebrate it. Some of them like Luce Irigaray for example are pretty much covert essentialists :
Building on but departing from Lacan, Irigaray asserts that the phallus has functioned as the central signifier of meaning and subjectivity, leaving no space for women to exist as autonomous subjects.[13] To counter this, she proposes the creation of a new symbolic order that acknowledges and values genuine sexual difference, allowing women to develop their own forms of speech, desire, and representation. Her vision is not for gender neutrality but for a world in which male and female exist as two equally recognized yet distinct identities.
At least she's half honest about it because mainstream feminism has that annoying feature of juggling between gender neutrality and gender hypertrophy.

I say half honest because she seems to imply that those things - distinct identities - are not already there through nature but would arise by some sort of concerted women's reaction to a male monopoly on gendered symbolism. :lul: What a bunch of fucking bullshit. This also gets disproven by the cheerleading case given that it happened in the 40's and 50's - horrible times for women so we hear everywhere ! And yet their symbolic order did devour the male one.

Btw if she says :
allowing women to develop their own forms of speech, desire, and representation.
Then she should also take responsability ; if there's a gendered antagonism - two different symbolic orders - it should be understood that men dont want to deal with the female one given the implications of it. Because they have everything to lose while foids have nothing to lose ; transcendance is defensive, immanence is offensive. Just like solemnity is silent and frivolity is talkative. So you foids should shut the fuck up !

I say "she" but this applies to society at large, she's obviously talking for it. As i said mainstream feminism constantly juggles between gender neutrality and gender hypertrophy. What a disgusting, insincere and sick culture.
 
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