Venting Even if we somehow became physically Normie, wouldn't be able to be ourselves

[Invisincelble]

This is something I've been thinking about a lot because I am actively trying to improve myself. Even if it doesn't help me with women, I'm more likely to be hired, and I could just live a better life for myself exploring my own hobbies. I hope I can somehow up my value to women, but regardless working on myself isn't going to hurt even if it just means more money for vidya and samurai swords.

But lets say hypothetically we all just magically became normies or Chads and had luck with women. Most of us wouldn't be like most normies and chads just sleeping aorund, we would want a partner we are attracted to but also would want to spend rest of our life with. At least that's how I think most of us would be. Chads and Stacys cycle through partners, we would be happy with just one moderately attractive woman.

But even if we found the love of out life, or soulmate, etc. we still wouldn't be able to fully be ourselves. We would still be aware of the blackpill, hypergamy, antifeminist, etc. but we wouldn't be really able to talk about it, without risk of being labled misogynistic, or finding out we were incel. The OKCupid data is what really fascinates me, and all it is is just data but even bring that up at all and #itsover all over again. Meanwhile, even nonfeminist women always talk about their own struggles, insecuirties, while literally al they have to do is be pretty and have a successful life. Almost no women are born ugly either, they have bad lifestyle that makes them that way. Not saying mine has been great but at least I'm trying to change it, women have no need to.

 

[Deleted member 4159]

Lookism.net

 

[patheticmanletcel]

If i became chad i would just fuck a lot of hot bitches everyday

 

[Invisincelble]

If i became chad i would just fuck a lot of hot bitches everyday

I guess I would do that too at first, until I found one I actually liked as a person.

 

[Mainländer]

But lets say hypothetically we all just magically became normies or Chads and had luck with women. Most of us wouldn't be like most normies and chads just sleeping aorund, we would want a partner we are attracted to but also would want to spend rest of our life with.

Speak for yourself, man. Give me a Chad look and with my NT and spam approach skills my semen will by in 500 femoids by the end of this year.

Ugliness is the only thing holding me back.

 

[TheOnlyWei]

Ugly women (to today standards) have a lot of insecurities that make them prone to bad life choices and becoming victimized. I have seen it in my line of work.
But making your life better for yourself is always a good thing. I went from living with my parents and working at a chicken joint, to getting a degree, career and my own house. I spend too much money on my hobbies but I have the freedom to do that. It's not all bad, just depressing that I can't have love and marriage.

 

[Deleted member 6214]

I'm planning to go through surgery to fix my face next year and if it goes good I could perhaps ascend. My biggest fear is that if I become good looking and find a gf, I might end up more depressed knowing she simply likes me because of my looks and that my personality counts for nothing. I don't think I could ever love her completely. But I need to do this surgery to improve my job prospects.

 

[Mainländer]

I'm planning to go through surgery to fix my face next year and if it goes good I could perhaps ascend. My biggest fear is that if I become good looking and find a gf, I might end up more depressed knowing she simply likes me because of my looks and that my personality counts for nothing. I don't think I could ever love her completely. But I need to do this surgery to improve my job prospects.

Being loved by your looks is the truest form of romantic love possible. Your looks are more intrinsically "you" than your money, status, or any other stuff you can use to get a partner.

 

[Deleted member 6214]

Being loved by your looks is the truest form of romantic love possible. Your looks are more intrinsically "you" than your money, status, or any other stuff you can use to get a partner.

This is true, but after surgery they won't actually be my real, original looks, if that makes sense. My nose will be a fake cosmetically enhanced feature.

 

[Mainländer]

This is true, but after surgery they won't actually be my real, original looks, if that makes sense. My nose will be a fake cosmetically enhanced feature.

Oh, I can understand. I've thought about looksmaxxing, I think with a jaw implant, hair implant, acne scar removal and ear surgery I would become something like 5-6/10. I don't like the idea of all the pain, discomfort and spending involved, though. Plus what you said, the idea of getting someone through your original genetic look is much more appealing. And I would still be old so prime pussy would probably still be out of my reach too.

And 6/10 is just not good enough, I would still have to put considerable effort.

 

[Deleted member 6214]

Oh, I can understand. I've thought about looksmaxxing, I think with a jaw implant, hair implant, acne scar removal and ear surgery I would become something like 5-6/10. I don't like the idea of all the pain, discomfort and spending involved, though. Plus what you said, the idea of getting someone through your original genetic look is much more appealing. And I would still be old so prime pussy would probably still be out of my reach too.

And 6/10 is just not good enough, I would still have to put considerable effort.

Looksmaxxing is my main motivation in life right now, I'm only 21 so it's not too late for me. I've started working 2 jobs to try and fund it. As for the pain? I always remind myself "no pain, no gain", hopefully after a year of painful surgeries I could finally get what I want (relationship and a good job after university). Looksmaxxing is always worth it, even if you end up as a 6/10 that's ok, it will help you in your job prospects. It is proven that better looking people get promoted more easily, and earn more at work. And once you start making money, it is possible to go to a poorer country and try get a young woman from there to marry, regardless of your age, you could still end up hitting some young pussy. Not to mention the nice things you can buy, like cars and holidays. If you are a youngcel, you must try, don't give up or you'll end up with regrets like the oldcels on this site.

Sorry if I sounded a bit bluepilled here, I don't know much about you but I hate it when I see young people on this site who are giving up so early.

 

[Bronzehawkattack]

Speak for yourself, man. Give me a Chad look and with my NT and spam approach skills my semen will by in 500 femoids by the end of this year.

Ugliness is the only thing holding me back.

You don't even need to be NT, just look like Chad and women will be the ones approaching you.

 

[Mainländer]

Looksmaxxing is my main motivation in life right now, I'm only 21 so it's not too late for me. I've started working 2 jobs to try and fund it. As for the pain? I always remind myself "no pain, no gain", hopefully after a year of painful surgeries I could finally get what I want (relationship and a good job after university). Looksmaxxing is always worth it, even if you end up as a 6/10 that's ok, it will help you in your job prospects. It is proven that better looking people get promoted more easily, and earn more at work. And once you start making money, it is possible to go to a poorer country and try get a young woman from there to marry, regardless of your age, you could still end up hitting some young pussy. Not to mention the nice things you can buy, like cars and holidays. If you are a youngcel, you must try, don't give up or you'll end up with regrets like the oldcels on this site.

Sorry if I sounded a bit bluepilled here, I don't know much about you but I hate it when I see young people on this site who are giving up so early.

I'm 29. If I can make some good coin I'll definitely consider looksmaxxing, even though I won't be a Chad anyway. I'm too hesitant and unsure, but I guess there's no better option.

And you don't sound BP at all, looksmaxxing isn't bluepilled at all.

You don't even need to be NT, just look like Chad and women will be the ones approaching you.

Truth.

 

[UnfortunatelyINCEL98]

if i had chadlite looks i would be happy and go for girls 2 levels down and mog my girlfriend who i would just live with and if the bitch starts acting crazy reaching for other cocks i will leave & repeat... or perhaps fuck with old rich women..

 

[Deleted member 6214]

I'm 29. If I can make some good coin I'll definitely consider looksmaxxing, even though I won't be a Chad anyway. I'm too hesitant and unsure, but I guess there's no better option.

And you don't sound BP at all, looksmaxxing isn't bluepilled at all.

I wish you luck in your looksmaxxing quest.

 

[NeverSubmit]

I can't be a normie I'm not white

 

[Invisincelble]

I can't be a normie I'm not white

I could be wrong but wasn't there OKCupid data suggesting women prefer black men, and like asain men the least?
And the reverse is true for men, we tend to prefer asians.

You may not be black, but just pointing out I don't thinking being white is that important, just preferable to asian.

 

[NeverSubmit]

I could be wrong but wasn't there OKCupid data suggesting women prefer black men, and like asain men the least?
And the reverse is true for men, we tend to prefer asians.

You may not be black, but just pointing out I don't thinking being white is that important, just preferable to asian.

You are living in fantasyland the reverse is true for dating statistics

 

[Invisincelble]

You are living in fantasyland the reverse is true for dating statistics

It makes sense. The sterotype of black men having big penises, and asian's having smaller is accurate. According to the stats I saw whites would be somewhere in the middle. I could be wrong, but I'd like to see them again.

With the purge of the stats, does anyone have back ups for the info on this page:

https://theblog.okcupid.com/how-your-race-affects-the-messages-you-get-39c68771b99e

None of this matters much to me regardless, I am white so I wouldn't be in fantasy land. I'd prefer it this way. But it just hasn't helped me personally being white because I'm also manlett, used to be majorly fat but now with loose skin, small penis, etc.

What matters to me is just more broadly women having the option to being more selective, meaning an obese landwhale woman able to get Channing Tatum types of men, leaving average men with extreme difficulty and below average men with nothing.

edit:
I must have misread the statistics, it's just black women who prefer black men. But there is a definite movement of people who only want to date black men, just as sort of backlash to white men. SJW "woke" types.
Also, do we even know if that has to do with their appearance? Or just more white men who are wealthy?

 

[Mainländer]

I wish you luck in your looksmaxxing quest.

Likewise, brah. You're younger and you sond like you live in a better country so you have even better prospects.