Zealcel
Ascending Overzealous Exclamation!
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Dear ITcels and fellow spergs and anyone.
I am tired of the gaslighting. A lot of you assume that incels are mostly morally homogenous, and that inceldom is entirely self imposed by men because of their hate or negativity. This is not the whole truth.You people can seem extremely condescending when you bring up the just world fallacy. At the same time, there are many incel behaviors that I cannot logically condone. I do not believe that I, or anyone is entitled to love, affection, and intimacy, especially because it requires another person. I not only condemn any form sexual abuse or unwanted sexual activity, but also believe that the partner’s lack of consent defeats the purpose of said activity. There are many talking points that are dismissed even though they have real negative effects when ignored. There are plenty of misogynist men who are sexually successful. If they respect women less, then they will not be as hurt by their rejection. Those types are quite content to brute force things with numbers like a door to door salesman. This lack of respect is misread as confidence and charm. There is an obvious bias in society towards those more attractive, and against those less attractive, hinting at attractiveness being objective to some degree. Effort, self improvement, are certainly helpful, but it doesn’t guarantee success. Confidence and personality is the bare minimum to not be seen as a creep if you don’t meet certain looks thresholds. It can be frustrating when people pretend like it’s not possible to do everything “right” and still fail, or be a horrific dipshit, and still have the desired gender slobber over you.
When incels bring up the 80%/20%, they are misogynist, but when a woman says “where are all the good men?”, they are on to something. I often think to myself, in this era of women seizing equal rights, why would a woman settle for less than perfect(within reason)? If women have preferences, then what can a man really do if he doesn’t fit those preferences, or they are out of his control? Sometimes it truly never began. I don’t blame women for being the pickier gender, because in many cases they had to be to survive. Women are the sexual selectors, men approach them, so they have to weed out the abusive ones(which isn’t always perfect), and navigate a bunch of other minefields. And so, policing the qualities which women are attracted to is done in bad faith, even if it supposedly credits the blackpill. What makes men attracted to women is obvious, but the things that make women attracted to men, is less obvious, and in many cases not even exclusive to men. It feels like a large portion of women are somewhat disgusted by men and are quite content single, which inadvertently throws off the men who do not match that. And so, a question many men ask is, how do I obtain something I am in no way entitled to, when it has to be given willingly by another person, who could give it to someone more attractive? I see the Chads get drowned in whoever they want to get drowned in, and make fun of me for not having a fraction of what they have, and I can’t help but notice the superficial traits that make them more magnetic(I am not tall for my location). But some of these goons are shorter and still pull more than I ever will. Most of the unspoken rules of attraction still apply, but humans are ultimately too deranged on both sides to adhere to cultural and biological standards 100% of the time.
I’m beginning to realize that there is a false dichotomy between the bluepill and the red/blackpill. It’s controlled opposition. Either you are stuck in mainstream schools of thought, and you have knee jerk reactions to basic grievances that contradict the just world belief, or you are disillusioned, and then completely overcorrect, to the point of resentment, and then have knee jerk reactions to ({Un}ironically) things that contradict despair. I used to think the blackpill was simply the most accurate way of describing modern human social behavior, but something is missing. The situation requires a personal nuance, instead of adhering to one extreme or the other(OMG I’m Chuddhamaxxing). I have seen a lot of rhetoric and media that vilifies women, and I know that women have flaws, but to frame them as a monolith would be extremely disingenuous. Some of the most based, logical, kind, and resilient people I have known in my entire life just so happen to be women, and to deny that to appeal to tribalism and resentment would be fucking stupid. I try, I fail, I feel sad for a while, I improve, and I try again, only to fail again. It’s the perfect agony of perseverance. I don’t think it’s women's fault. I talk to them, and they truly don’t seem interested, though they are out of my league anyway. Maybe they just can’t muster attraction to me(Or most men, and they seem to like each other more on average), maybe I am a truecel and my effort is in vain. Maybe I have an evil aura and their intuition crap red flags me(what is that stuff anyways?). But for some blasted, god forsaken, horrific reason, I do not quit. I don’t try to brute force things, I find that method to be uncouth. I have been rejected and hurt before, but something shoves me out of despair(like most people). The point is, there is no rigid existing framework to which we can fully adhere without losing sight of some part of reality. We have to make shit up on the fly, because something will work for you, and not me, and vice versa. I still have blackpill ideas in my head that are not the most useful to my real life, and knowing this, I want to free up space for the knowledge I can use to be a [BIG SHOT]. Sorry chuds if this is too soy, or copium. Nuance is required to become the ubermensch.
I am tired of the gaslighting. A lot of you assume that incels are mostly morally homogenous, and that inceldom is entirely self imposed by men because of their hate or negativity. This is not the whole truth.You people can seem extremely condescending when you bring up the just world fallacy. At the same time, there are many incel behaviors that I cannot logically condone. I do not believe that I, or anyone is entitled to love, affection, and intimacy, especially because it requires another person. I not only condemn any form sexual abuse or unwanted sexual activity, but also believe that the partner’s lack of consent defeats the purpose of said activity. There are many talking points that are dismissed even though they have real negative effects when ignored. There are plenty of misogynist men who are sexually successful. If they respect women less, then they will not be as hurt by their rejection. Those types are quite content to brute force things with numbers like a door to door salesman. This lack of respect is misread as confidence and charm. There is an obvious bias in society towards those more attractive, and against those less attractive, hinting at attractiveness being objective to some degree. Effort, self improvement, are certainly helpful, but it doesn’t guarantee success. Confidence and personality is the bare minimum to not be seen as a creep if you don’t meet certain looks thresholds. It can be frustrating when people pretend like it’s not possible to do everything “right” and still fail, or be a horrific dipshit, and still have the desired gender slobber over you.
When incels bring up the 80%/20%, they are misogynist, but when a woman says “where are all the good men?”, they are on to something. I often think to myself, in this era of women seizing equal rights, why would a woman settle for less than perfect(within reason)? If women have preferences, then what can a man really do if he doesn’t fit those preferences, or they are out of his control? Sometimes it truly never began. I don’t blame women for being the pickier gender, because in many cases they had to be to survive. Women are the sexual selectors, men approach them, so they have to weed out the abusive ones(which isn’t always perfect), and navigate a bunch of other minefields. And so, policing the qualities which women are attracted to is done in bad faith, even if it supposedly credits the blackpill. What makes men attracted to women is obvious, but the things that make women attracted to men, is less obvious, and in many cases not even exclusive to men. It feels like a large portion of women are somewhat disgusted by men and are quite content single, which inadvertently throws off the men who do not match that. And so, a question many men ask is, how do I obtain something I am in no way entitled to, when it has to be given willingly by another person, who could give it to someone more attractive? I see the Chads get drowned in whoever they want to get drowned in, and make fun of me for not having a fraction of what they have, and I can’t help but notice the superficial traits that make them more magnetic(I am not tall for my location). But some of these goons are shorter and still pull more than I ever will. Most of the unspoken rules of attraction still apply, but humans are ultimately too deranged on both sides to adhere to cultural and biological standards 100% of the time.
I’m beginning to realize that there is a false dichotomy between the bluepill and the red/blackpill. It’s controlled opposition. Either you are stuck in mainstream schools of thought, and you have knee jerk reactions to basic grievances that contradict the just world belief, or you are disillusioned, and then completely overcorrect, to the point of resentment, and then have knee jerk reactions to ({Un}ironically) things that contradict despair. I used to think the blackpill was simply the most accurate way of describing modern human social behavior, but something is missing. The situation requires a personal nuance, instead of adhering to one extreme or the other(OMG I’m Chuddhamaxxing). I have seen a lot of rhetoric and media that vilifies women, and I know that women have flaws, but to frame them as a monolith would be extremely disingenuous. Some of the most based, logical, kind, and resilient people I have known in my entire life just so happen to be women, and to deny that to appeal to tribalism and resentment would be fucking stupid. I try, I fail, I feel sad for a while, I improve, and I try again, only to fail again. It’s the perfect agony of perseverance. I don’t think it’s women's fault. I talk to them, and they truly don’t seem interested, though they are out of my league anyway. Maybe they just can’t muster attraction to me(Or most men, and they seem to like each other more on average), maybe I am a truecel and my effort is in vain. Maybe I have an evil aura and their intuition crap red flags me(what is that stuff anyways?). But for some blasted, god forsaken, horrific reason, I do not quit. I don’t try to brute force things, I find that method to be uncouth. I have been rejected and hurt before, but something shoves me out of despair(like most people). The point is, there is no rigid existing framework to which we can fully adhere without losing sight of some part of reality. We have to make shit up on the fly, because something will work for you, and not me, and vice versa. I still have blackpill ideas in my head that are not the most useful to my real life, and knowing this, I want to free up space for the knowledge I can use to be a [BIG SHOT]. Sorry chuds if this is too soy, or copium. Nuance is required to become the ubermensch.





