Serious Escortcels Should Support the Nordic Model of Prostitution

[MENSA_IQcel]

We're addressing elasticity.

You're moving the goalposts.

Don't be stupid.



What stops the state from using the law to crack down on punters? I'd rather not take the risk. I love living in a country where the state pretty much turns a blind eye to the entire issue.

You haven't got anything to offer this forum other than your pseudointellectual sanctimonious moralfagging.

>We're addressing elasticity

Yes we are!!!!!!!

What I said directly relates to elasticity!!!!!!!!

Why are you playing this game?

Elasticity just refers to the percentage change in price relative to the percentage change in another factor, often times this is due to whether the supply is fixed. Oil is a perfect example, a decrease in demand for oil will decrease the price, sure there will then be less oil suppliers, but the supply of oil will drop less than the demand so overall price is lower.

Under your logic an increase in demand for oil would LOWER the price of oil because it would draw more oil suppliers into the market.

And the State can't crack down on punters because there's no way to do so without going after the most low IQ punters in existence, which are just retired idiot boomers. In fact it's impossible for police to set up a sting operation with an outcall, and the price of an outcall in Canada (country with Nordic model) is cheaper than an incall in the United States (full incrimination).

 

[solblue]

A simple google search has showed me that prostitution has decreased significantly in Sweden. Also, the number of prostitutes dropped by two-thirds. The policies seem to make life harder for a high-inhib escortcel

All you had to do was was look at his name to see it's a troll mascarading as an intellectual.

I think this guy is a troll, he sounds unbelievably stupid, this is why I try not to respond to him much, no matter what you tell him he won't listen, as though he's doing it on purpose, he is literally going to ignore everything you just said

I wonder how long his LARPing will last.

 

[Deleted member 10531]

There won't be a drop in customers, prostitution is still very illegal in most of the United States

which also drops the quantity of sellers, and thus, increases price

It makes no sense punish only half of the crime.

well with the swedish model it wouldnt be a crime to sell it

 

[AutisticMonstrosity]

How the theory holds up in practice? How much does 30 min normal sex at the cheapest typically costs in Sweden? In Finland, where it is not illegal to buy and sell, 30 min costs 100 euros at the cheapest. I've never seen lower price. Typical price of 30 mins is 150 euros incall, can be much pricier also. How Sweden compares, does anyone know?

 

[Indari]

not worth being unregulated coz you'll get aids

 

[Spioenkop1]

How the theory holds up in practice? How much does 30 min normal sex at the cheapest typically costs in Sweden? In Finland, where it is not illegal to buy and sell, 30 min costs 100 euros at the cheapest. I've never seen lower price. Typical price of 30 mins is 150 euros incall, can be much pricier also. How Sweden compares, does anyone know?

Cheapest I saw in Sweden is 150 (1500 kr)30 minutes, but the overall quality is shit there.
in Germany you can get better Hookers for 50 euros30 minutes. The Swedish model was in case of Sweden super effective to destroy the market and to make escortcelling unattractive.
France adopted a similar approach like Sweden, but the repercussions have been different.

 

[Deleted member 10124]

The Nordic model or Swedish model of prostitution pushes the buyer of sexual services but not the seller. This is to reduce demand for prostitution and eventually drive it out of business while not punishing the prostitutes themselves. This legislation was pushed and lobbied for by radical feminists but if you're an incel if actually benefits you. A little rule about economics is when demand for something drops but supply stays the same the end price will be lower than it was before. Prostitution is also a semi-fixed supply entity so as demand for it increases the price rises exponentially. There's a certain class of women willing to be prostitutes, even if men bid up the average price of a prostitute 10x it would not bring in 10x the prostitutes to compensate this increased demand, obviously social and cultural reasons are behind this. Most sex-buyers are married men, former normies who are bored with their sex life at home. These men are likely to be most influenced by the Nordic model laws as most beta-normies aren't willing to venture outside the realm of law.

If you're an incel who is willing to escort-max anyway, this benefits you. The amount of women willing to be prostitutes may drop a bit but the demand for prostitution will rapidly decrease, thus lowering the price for prostitution. The cost of breaking-the-law replaces a large portion of the monetary price and allows sex-buyers to pay significantly less for the same service. This is why prostitutes of similar quality are 1/5 the price in Canada as they are in the United States. Canada runs with the Nordic model while America criminalizes the suppliers.

Source: Obtaining a PHD in mathematical economic theory and knew who loves escorts and told me his personal experiences.

I've fought blood & guts against it.

I've made several threads here opposing it.

I know you're a LARPer & a troll.

That is stupid. That's like arresting the drug user but letting the drug dealer go free. And what then is even the point of being a drug dealer if it's illegal for your customers to buy your drugs? And worst of all, how can we let a knowing and consenting drug dealer call themselves a victim of the customers they entrap?

Stupid. And we have people in this country who want to follow the examples of Nordic countries.

There won't be a drop in customers, prostitution is still very illegal in most of the United States but people seek loopholes, usually with the help of cooperative prostitutes. It's a matter of principle, is why I'm against this. It makes no sense punish only half of the crime.

 

[Napoleon de Jizzbal]

Maybe suits for those who ready to bang any hole, but may be harder for man who wants only decently looking

 

[Deleted member 10124]

As long as there are men who cannot get laid, there will always be demand for sex work. The Nordic Model is more than anything an attack on low value men.

Maybe suits for those who ready to bang any hole, but may be harder for man who wants only decently looking

Your threads continue to be an embarrassment to your name.

All you had to do was was look at his name to see it's a troll mascarading as an intellectual.

Dont bother wasting your time.

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This.

 

[Deleted member 20987]

tl-dr.

95% of Prostitutes are unhygienic, ewastern european, mild std ridden, decade past wall (let alone prime) ugly roasties who catfish johns with tik tok filters and morphed body shots.

Price increases just create "dusty phone syndrome" for many whores who invoke artifical scarcity tactics such as limited availability, no phone numbers or cherry picking e-mail bookings.

Oh and they are pimped too so the whole transaction is illegal voiding any debate. Prices and bookings are set by the pimps, and its not uncommon to be ripped off or short changed.

 

[Deleted member 10124]

1. Northern Ireland has seen an increase in sex trafficking ever since NM was brought in
2. Sweden is lying when they said it lowered demand
3. There are more sex buyers in Sweden now than before as it's an act of rebellion against the state. Que Simple Simon Haggstroms book.
4. Hookers are up in arms against it legally all around the world where it's been introduced.
5. It's only a matter of time now that this hated law targeting law abiding Incels is destroyed for good.
6. OP you're clearly a LARPer & a troll. If not infiltrator.
I think OP is @Fontaine ban evasion alt tbh.

 

[Spioenkop1]

@LittleBoy from which country are you?

 

[Deleted member 10124]

@LittleBoy from which country are you?

UK. England to be more precise. That's as far as I'm going to tell you though.

 

[Spioenkop1]

tl-dr.

95% of Prostitutes are unhygienic, mild std ridden, decade past wall (let alone prime) ugly roasties who catfish johns with tik tok filters and morphed body shots.

Price increases just create "dusty phone syndrome" for many whores who invoke artifical scarcity tactics such as limited availability, no phone numbers or cherry picking e-mail bookings.

Oh and they are pimped too so the whole transaction is illegal voiding any debate. Prices and bookings are set by the pimps, and its not uncommon to be ripped off or short changed.

Sry but I can’t confirm this. The hookers I had looked on average way better than the average girl on the street here. Obviously there is some faking involved, but generation z foids don’t use less make-up and other tricks than a hooker does.

 

[Gyros_Pretcel]

I seem to remember that prostitutes are prportionally more expensive compared to countries like Germany for example.

 

[FrothySolutions]

which also drops the quantity of sellers, and thus, increases price

well with the swedish model it wouldnt be a crime to sell it

But it would be a crime to buy it, which still makes it illegal. It's just the dealer gets away with it. What point is there in being a prostitute if it's illegal for buyers to have your service?

 

[MENSA_IQcel]

I've fought blood & guts against it.

I've made several threads here opposing it.

I know you're a LARPer & a troll.

I checked your post history, you've never made a thread about it. You're a terrible troll and aren't fooling anyone.

I've fought blood & guts against it.

I've made several threads here opposing it.

I know you're a LARPer & a troll.

In Canada there are good looking ones for cheaper.

A simple google search has showed me that prostitution has decreased significantly in Sweden. Also, the number of prostitutes dropped by two-thirds. The policies seem to make life harder for a high-inhib escortcel


I wonder how long his LARPing will last.

I never said the number of prostitutes wouldn't drop, you're obviously trolling.

1. Northern Ireland has seen an increase in sex trafficking ever since NM was brought in
2. Sweden is lying when they said it lowered demand
3. There are more sex buyers in Sweden now than before as it's an act of rebellion against the state. Que Simple Simon Haggstroms book.
4. Hookers are up in arms against it legally all around the world where it's been introduced.
5. It's only a matter of time now that this hated law targeting law abiding Incels is destroyed for good.
6. OP you're clearly a LARPer & a troll. If not infiltrator.
I think OP is @Fontaine ban evasion alt tbh.

You're a god awful troll, this model is only spreading. Israel just adopted it, France recently before. The law is spreading rapidly everywhere. Soon global governments will enact as the EU and U.N are pushing for it.

But it would be a crime to buy it, which still makes it illegal. It's just the dealer gets away with it. What point is there in being a prostitute if it's illegal for buyers to have your service?

Because some buyers will break the law and buy it anyway

I seem to remember that prostitutes are prportionally more expensive compared to countries like Germany for example.

THat's only due to an influx of supply.

 

[NoCopeNoHope]

What stops her from blackmailing you for more money? And I'd rather pay more for no legal risk because I wealthmaxx so I'm not a poorcel.

 

[solblue]

I checked your post history, you've never made a thread about it. You're a terrible troll and aren't fooling anyone.



In Canada there are good looking ones for cheaper.



I never said the number of prostitutes wouldn't drop, you're obviously trolling.


You're a god awful troll, this model is only spreading. Israel just adopted it, France recently before. The law is spreading rapidly everywhere. Soon global governments will enact as the EU and U.N are pushing for it.


Because some buyers will break the law and buy it anyway


THat's only due to an influx of supply.

You claimed this would be beneficial towards escortcels when that doesn’t seem to be the case. Why don’t you ever provide evidence for anything you claim in any of your posts?

 

[MENSA_IQcel]

You claimed this would be beneficial towards escortcels when that doesn’t seem to be the case. Why don’t you ever provide evidence for anything you claim in any of your posts?

I have been providing evidence this entire fucking thread. In Canada prostitutes are WAYYYY cheaper because they know they have to have an outrageously low price to attract clients (SINCE CLIENTS ARE SCARED OF THE LAW).

Because of this, the clients that actually do go through with escortcelling get lower prices for the same quality.

 

[NoCopeNoHope]

Because of this, the clients that actually do go through with escortcelling get lower prices for the same quality.

Can you prove this?

 

[solblue]

I have been providing evidence this entire fucking thread. In Canada prostitutes are WAYYYY cheaper because they know they have to have an outrageously low price to attract clients (SINCE CLIENTS ARE SCARED OF THE LAW).

Because of this, the clients that actually do go through with escortcelling get lower prices for the same quality.

I don't think you know what evidence means. Even if the cost of prostitutes is cheaper in Canada, the legal ramifications might deter many people from buying a prostitute. I still don't see why escortcels should support the Nordic model especially when prostitution went down in the Nordic countries

 

[grondilu]

Call me a cuck, but I don't want to break the Law.

Besides, this model of punishing the clients has long been the rule in my country, and as far as I can tell, that made prostitution either very expensive (with escorts) or of terrible quality (with street prostitution, where hookers were usually ugly, old or transexuals).

Also it makes prostitution underground, which makes it hard for a young man to know where it's at.

 

[MENSA_IQcel]

I don't think you know what evidence means. Even if the cost of prostitutes is cheaper in Canada, the legal ramifications might deter many people from buying a prostitute. I still don't see why escortcels should support the Nordic model especially when prostitution went down in the Nordic countries

THATS THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT!!!!!

The legal ramifications WILL deter people from buying a prostitute, meaning that if you are an escortcel you will have less competition in marketplace!!!!!!

Thank you for agreeing.

Can you prove this?

Yes, the price goes down to G after the enactment of the law.

 

[Deleted member 10124]

I checked your post history, you've never made a thread about it. You're a terrible troll and aren't fooling anyone.

In Canada there are good looking ones for cheaper.

I never said the number of prostitutes wouldn't drop, you're obviously trolling.
You're a god awful troll, this model is only spreading. Israel just adopted it, France recently before. The law is spreading rapidly everywhere. Soon global governments will enact as the EU and U.N are pushing for it.

Because some buyers will break the law and buy it anyway

THat's only due to an influx of supply.

1. I have made threads against it. You simply haven't looked.
2. In Canada & all other countries adopting it Law Abiding Incels are targeted. The prostitutes are merely collateral damage.
3. Irony Klaxon calling me a troll.
4. Israel said that it would implement it within 18 months from January 2019. As if that's going to happen.
5. Demand will never go down. The law is a farce. The UN isn't pushing for it & the EU isn't either. They've just made some overtures that's it.
6. I think you are @Fontaine & a ban evasion alt & I will be informing the Mods @SergeantIncel @Master @mental_out @knajjd @Ryo_Hazuki @WithoutMe @cocksucker @i_a_m_i of my suspicions which I have done.

Call me a cuck, but I don't want to break the Law.

Besides, this model of punishing the clients has long been the rule in my country, and as far as I can tell, that made prostitution either very expensive (with escorts) or of terrible quality (with street prostitution, where hookers were usually ugly, old or transexuals).

Also it makes prostitution underground, which makes it hard for a young man to know where it's at.

I don't think you know what evidence means. Even if the cost of prostitutes is cheaper in Canada, the legal ramifications might deter many people from buying a prostitute. I still don't see why escortcels should support the Nordic model especially when prostitution went down in the Nordic countries

It didn't go down in the Nordic Countries. Iceland has stopped policing it altogether because it's a farce. How do you define "buying sex"? ... Cue "A lover taking his woman out on a date or spending a booty call with her giving her financial assistance"? A complete farce when you get down to it.

You claimed this would be beneficial towards escortcels when that doesn’t seem to be the case. Why don’t you ever provide evidence for anything you claim in any of your posts?

Because he's @Fontaine & a ban evasion alt troll. He's fooling no one.

 

[PPEcel]

Jfl at this thread

 

[solblue]

The legal ramifications WILL deter people from buying a prostitute, meaning that if you are an escortcel you will have less competition in marketplace!!!!!!

Including escortcels. What makes you think escortcels would prefer to commit a crime when they don't have to? Pretty much all the escortcels in this thread have stated they would prefer it legal. You also haven't addressed the decreasing rates of prostitution in nordic countries. More importantly, you haven't addressed the criticisms leveled at you yesterday regarding your "evidence", and you have continued to ignore them when I brought them up again. I usually don't fall for trolls so congrats, but I think I'll be moving on now.

 

[Deleted member 10124]

I have been providing evidence this entire fucking thread. In Canada prostitutes are WAYYYY cheaper because they know they have to have an outrageously low price to attract clients (SINCE CLIENTS ARE SCARED OF THE LAW).

Because of this, the clients that actually do go through with escortcelling get lower prices for the same quality.

Can you provide the costing before the law against after the law? Taken into consideration inflation, retail price index, time value of money?

You're fooling no one @Fontaine.

Jfl at this thread

Such a try hard from OP. It's Over For Him at least.

Including escortcels. What makes you think escortcels would prefer to commit a crime when they don't have to? Pretty much all the escortcels in this thread have stated they would prefer it legal. You also haven't addressed the decreasing rates of prostitution in nordic countries. More importantly, you haven't addressed the criticisms leveled at you yesterday regarding your "evidence", and you have continued to ignore them when I brought them up again. I usually don't fall for trolls so congrats, but I think I'll be moving on now.

 

[Deleted member 21908]

this is why offtopic mogs

 

[MENSA_IQcel]

Can you provide the costing before the law against after the law? Taken into consideration inflation, retail price index, time value of money?

You're fooling no one @Fontaine.


Such a try hard from OP. It's Over For Him at least.

Right here, this is my proof.

 

[Deleted member 10124]

Right here, this is my proof.

Cute. Where's the source for that diagram which is merely theory? Not answering my previous questions. Sweet.
Dancing around and skirting around giving a definite. You're fooling no one.

 

[Deleted member 10531]

But it would be a crime to buy it, which still makes it illegal.

no, prostitution would be legal, buying it would be illegal

What point is there in being a prostitute if it's illegal for buyers to have your service?

the point of this law is so m'lady could benefit while incels would not, but this also works well for escortcels. There will always be buyers, you could say that exact same thing about drugs

 

[Deleted member 10124]

no, prostitution would be legal, buying it would be illegal

the point of this law is so m'lady could benefit while incels would not, but this also works well for escortcels. There will always be buyers, you could say that exact same thing about drugs

1. Incels would be blackmailed
2. Incels would be extorted for money without having our physiological needs met
3. Incels would be shopped to the cops and made a persona non gratis
4. Incels would be treated worse than lepers all because we require a basic physiological need.
5. Faggots, Dykes & Leftist vermin would only succeed. Not us.

 

[grondilu]

Because of this, the clients that actually do go through with escortcelling get lower prices for the same quality.

"for the same quality"



It would be great if you were right, but all my personal experience strongly suggests that you are not.

 

[Deleted member 10124]

That's amongst other things.

1. Repercussion for dictating to "sex workers" what their reality is. They are able to use Soviet abuse of psychiatry ON US. After using these women as a blue print for society as a whole.
2. They are able to use all encompassing powers of surveillance
3. They are able to invade our properties under "humanitarian grounds" even though they're not needed at all
4. They're able to force us into "rehabilitation" for being thought criminals.
5. Basing law on LARPing "sex trade survivors" can have serious repercussions for us with LARPing "ex Incels"

Amongst other things.

No comrades in arms. The Nordic Model on Sex Work will never ever be our friends amongst other things or friends of humanity. Like it or not were in the same boat as whores fighting the same enemy.

 

[Deleted member 4760]

OP you're wrong. All the countries where it's legalized and even allow brothel are where the grisl are prettier and it's cheaper;

Brazil, Colombia, Germany, Netherlands, all cheap, all pretty girls.

 

[FrothySolutions]

no, prostitution would be legal, buying it would be illegal

That's the same as prostitution being illegal.

 

[Incellectual]

I'm not an escortcel so idc

 

[Ap0calypse]

>criminalize males who use prostitutes but not the prostitutes themselves

Arguably the most female supremacist law I can think of outside of the paternity test ban in France

 

[MENSA_IQcel]

Cute. Where's the source for that diagram which is merely theory? Not answering my previous questions. Sweet.
Dancing around and skirting around giving a definite. You're fooling no one.

That graph is basic universally accepted economic theory. Google it yourself, I don't have to source "1 + 1 = 2" now do I?

>criminalize males who use prostitutes but not the prostitutes themselves

Arguably the most female supremacist law I can think of outside of the paternity test ban in France

Yes I agree, but it benefits escortcels more than anyone for the reasons I suggested.

That's the same as prostitution being illegal.

Except prostitutes would not fear the law and be more open to advertisement and acceptance of male clients.

That's amongst other things.

1. Repercussion for dictating to "sex workers" what their reality is. They are able to use Soviet abuse of psychiatry ON US. After using these women as a blue print for society as a whole.
2. They are able to use all encompassing powers of surveillance
3. They are able to invade our properties under "humanitarian grounds" even though they're not needed at all
4. They're able to force us into "rehabilitation" for being thought criminals.
5. Basing law on LARPing "sex trade survivors" can have serious repercussions for us with LARPing "ex Incels"

Amongst other things.

No comrades in arms. The Nordic Model on Sex Work will never ever be our friends amongst other things or friends of humanity. Like it or not were in the same boat as whores fighting the same enemy.

You're forgetting that only extremely low IQ people ever get caught for it.

OP you're wrong. All the countries where it's legalized and even allow brothel are where the grisl are prettier and it's cheaper;

Brazil, Colombia, Germany, Netherlands, all cheap, all pretty girls.

Show me a single pretty girl from a Netherlands or German brothel.

 

[Deleted member 10124]

That graph is basic universally accepted economic theory. Google it yourself, I don't have to source "1 + 1 = 2" now do I?


Yes I agree, but it benefits escortcels more than anyone for the reasons I suggested.



Except prostitutes would not fear the law and be more open to advertisement and acceptance of male clients.



You're forgetting that only extremely low IQ people ever get caught for it.


Show me a single pretty girl from a Netherlands or German brothel.

1. I'm sure you can back up your source that you use. Other people seem to be able to do that. Why can't you?
2. It doesn't benefit Escortcels. It targets them specifically.
3. Prostitutes do fear the law & they advertise online HOWEVER Cops can run stings on people like us.
4. Everyone gets caught. Incalls are banned. Outcalls can be classified as rape if you hand over money & then come onto them physically.
5. There are plenty advertising.

>criminalize males who use prostitutes but not the prostitutes themselves

Arguably the most female supremacist law I can think of outside of the paternity test ban in France

They also have the "Sex Buyer Law".

That's the same as prostitution being illegal.

Everyone has said that when you criminalize one part you criminalize all of them. Prostitutes can be seen to be facilitators of crime if they accept sex being bought from them. Not to mention money laundering from illicit activities which is a crime in itself combined with unexplained wealth orders & they're pretty much fucked.

 

[MENSA_IQcel]

1. I'm sure you can back up your source that you use. Other people seem to be able to do that. Why can't you?
2. It doesn't benefit Escortcels. It targets them specifically.
3. Prostitutes do fear the law & they advertise online HOWEVER Cops can run stings on people like us.
4. Everyone gets caught. Incalls are banned. Outcalls can be classified as rape if you hand over money & then come onto them physically.
5. There are plenty advertising.

>I'm sure you can back up your source that you use. Other people seem to be able to do that. Why can't you?

I'm a PHD economist, I AM THE SOURCE. I bet anyone I link is less qualified to talk about the subject than me

>2. It doesn't benefit Escortcels. It targets them specifically.

I just explained why that's not the case

>Prostitutes do fear the law & they advertise online HOWEVER Cops can run stings on people like us.

Stings are only done on low IQ sex buyers who attend incalls

> Everyone gets caught. Incalls are banned. Outcalls can be classified as rape if you hand over money & then come onto them physically.

It's impossible for cops to catch outcalls

>There are plenty advertising.

Exactly, that's why it's good.

 

[Deleted member 10124]

>I'm sure you can back up your source that you use. Other people seem to be able to do that. Why can't you?

I'm a PHD economist, I AM THE SOURCE. I bet anyone I link is less qualified to talk about the subject than me

>2. It doesn't benefit Escortcels. It targets them specifically.

I just explained why that's not the case

>Prostitutes do fear the law & they advertise online HOWEVER Cops can run stings on people like us.

Stings are only done on low IQ sex buyers who attend incalls

> Everyone gets caught. Incalls are banned. Outcalls can be classified as rape if you hand over money & then come onto them physically.

It's impossible for cops to catch outcalls

>There are plenty advertising.

Exactly, that's why it's good.

You're very disingenuous... Will the real @Fontaine please stand up?

cc: @PPEcel @BlkPillPres

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Has the OP ever heard of "Scarcity in Economics"... aka "clearing the demand via disrupting the supply"...

This is real basic shit OP... You supply the evidence or sources, argue which parts links in with your case & overall argument & then present your case to the required standard...

You're fooling no one...

 

[BlkPillPres]

You're very disingenuous... Will the real @Fontaine please stand up?

cc: @PPEcel @BlkPillPres

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How the Underground Economy Affects Gross Domestic Product (GDP)

Find out how the underground or shadow economy can affect the accuracy of the calculation of a country's gross domestic product (GDP).

www.investopedia.com

How Black Markets Work

A black market is a transaction platform, whether physical or virtual, where goods or services are exchanged illegally.

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Can someone tell @MENSA_IQcel that he won't ever win in an argument avec moi.

Scarcity in economics - Economics Help

Scarcity is one of the fundamental issues in economics. Definition and a look at examples of scarcity and explaining how it affects prices, demand and future investment. Diagrams to show scarcity.

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This is real basic shit OP... You supply the evidence or sources, argue which parts links in with your case & overall argument & then present your case to the required standard...

You're fooling no one...

>PHD Economist
>Doesn't understand simple shit like the effects of the black market

Dude wasted his money getting that PHD

 

[bigantennaemay1]

That is completely idiotic and you are wrong. Here's the proof.

You can go to the Netherlands or Germany right now (where prostitution is legalized) and in some places pay 50 euros to get 1 hour. In places that follow the Nordic model, you are looking at three times the price for worse quality. In Canada, an hour with a mediocre escort costs $300 CAD. I'm talking escorts who are fat, ugly, etc. To get a decent escort in Canada, you're looking at paying $500+ per hour.

All the Nordic Model does is push the trade of sex underground and give more power to women to price discriminate, and refuse sex to clients. It does not actually decrease the demand of sex workers as the demand will always be there. So what you get is a market with imperfect information, where the cost of business is passed onto the consumer. The end result is higher prices and lower quality.

This is in stark contrast to legalization, because legalizing prostitution allows the market be more visible to buyers and sellers. Now sellers have to compete with each other, making prices lower. Legalizing will also allow the creation of companies that sell prostitution, and simple economies of scale tells you that an enterprise with greater starting capital and an ability to have an economies of scale will be able to sell sex for much cheaper than an independent escort will.

And this is true. There's a brothel company in Germany called "Paradise". For 120 euros, you can spend a night in a high-class hotel with a prostitute of your choosing, who has to offer the prices that the company advertises. Good luck getting a better deal from an independent escort.

The Nordic model is stupid, because it is trying to solve the symptom instead of the cause. It assumes that you can somehow affect demand for prostitution by criminalizing it. As long as there are men who cannot get laid, there will always be demand for sex work. The Nordic Model is more than anything an attack on low value men.

Long, but high IQ.

 

[MENSA_IQcel]

You're very disingenuous... Will the real @Fontaine please stand up?

cc: @PPEcel @BlkPillPres

What Are the Effects of a Black Market on Supply and Demand?

Using supply and demand graphs and analysis, we can understand how the creation of a black market affects the price and level of quantity of a good.

www.thoughtco.com

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How the Underground Economy Affects Gross Domestic Product (GDP)

Find out how the underground or shadow economy can affect the accuracy of the calculation of a country's gross domestic product (GDP).

www.investopedia.com

How Black Markets Work

A black market is a transaction platform, whether physical or virtual, where goods or services are exchanged illegally.

www.investopedia.com

Can someone tell @MENSA_IQcel that he won't ever win in an argument avec moi.

Scarcity in economics - Economics Help

Scarcity is one of the fundamental issues in economics. Definition and a look at examples of scarcity and explaining how it affects prices, demand and future investment. Diagrams to show scarcity.

www.economicshelp.org

Has the OP ever heard of "Scarcity in Economics"... aka "clearing the demand via disrupting the supply"...

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This is real basic shit OP... You supply the evidence or sources, argue which parts links in with your case & overall argument & then present your case to the required standard...

You're fooling no one...

Sources are for high-schoolers who don't understand real arguments. Watch any real serious debate, Chomsky vs Buckley comes to mind as a classic. They don't cite sources because their arguments stem from logic which triumphs sources that can be easily twisted.

That article is misleading. It's talking about drugs where both the buyer and the seller are punished. I'm talking about only punishing the buyer, thus keeping supply constant while demand falls.

"SCARCITY" only causes price increases when the scarcity is CAUSED BY A SHORTAGE OF SUPPLY. Scarcity because no one wants it anymore causes a price drop. Did you know we have less fax machines now than we did 20 years ago? That means fax machines are scarcer, DOESNT MEAN THEY ARE MORE EXPENSIVE, THEY ARE SCARCER AND CHEAPER SINCE DEMAND FELL

 

[NaserOric]

Low iq, legalizing means more competition and possibility for economies of scale (see the example another guy here gave with that german brothel). It's as easy as this; if what you said is true, the quality of prostitutes and escorts would be better in Sweden than in NL and Germany and it would cost less money for the same amount of time. Both statements are not the case.

 

[PPEcel]

>criminalize males who use prostitutes but not the prostitutes themselves

Arguably the most female supremacist law I can think of outside of the paternity test ban in France

 

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Sources are for high-schoolers who don't understand real arguments. Watch any real serious debate, Chomsky vs Buckley comes to mind as a classic. They don't cite sources because their arguments stem from logic which triumphs sources that can be easily twisted.

That article is misleading. It's talking about drugs where both the buyer and the seller are punished. I'm talking about only punishing the buyer, thus keeping supply constant while demand falls.

"SCARCITY" only causes price increases when the scarcity is CAUSED BY A SHORTAGE OF SUPPLY. Scarcity because no one wants it anymore causes a price drop. Did you know we have less fax machines now than we did 20 years ago? That means fax machines are scarcer, DOESNT MEAN THEY ARE MORE EXPENSIVE, THEY ARE SCARCER AND CHEAPER SINCE DEMAND FELL

So you're abdicating any reputable source for your argument knowing full well that you can't provide any backing you up & the only other ones are the ones that refute your supposition. Then you change the criteria for argumentation. O.K.

Drugs are part of the Black Market which is contraband alongside prostitution. Re-Read all of the articles I gave.

Punishing the Buyer is therefore dissuading one half of the transaction to go through. How is that not detrimental to us?

Scarcity increases price as a result of shortage of supply. Your quotes. Therefore when you deprive the purchase of sex by criminalizing that aspect you inadvertently increase the supply pricing scheme as the supplier knows that they are able to increase the price at will. Meaning an ever more hyper inflated SMV for females.

Fax Machine prices fell because they became redundant. Has nothing to do with deprivation of them.

>PHD Economist
>Doesn't understand simple shit like the effects of the black market

Dude wasted his money getting that PHD

Low iq, legalizing means more competition and possibility for economies of scale (see the example another guy here gave with that german brothel). It's as easy as this; if what you said is true, the quality of prostitutes and escorts would be better in Sweden than in NL and Germany and it would cost less money for the same amount of time. Both statements are not the case.

>I'm sure you can back up your source that you use. Other people seem to be able to do that. Why can't you?

I'm a PHD economist, I AM THE SOURCE. I bet anyone I link is less qualified to talk about the subject than me

Argument from authority - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Can you quote from one your books please Doctor?

 

[PPEcel]

@MENSA_IQcel sounds like a retarded middle schooler who read the first three chapters of an economics textbook and considers himself a genius. @BlkPillPres and @LittleBoy you shouldn't bother talking to a LARPing alt. This guy clearly isn't a PhD student.

That graph is basic universally accepted economic theory. Google it yourself, I don't have to source "1 + 1 = 2" now do I?

Yes, that graph makes sense. That probably the 2nd or 3rd graph that a high school economics student will study. No, it is not an accurate model of the actual market for sex work; nor does it support your absurd policy proposal. 1 + 1 = 2 is correct, but this is the economics equivalent of saying "1+1=2, so therefore I have solved the Riemann hypothesis."

>Prostitutes do fear the law & they advertise online HOWEVER Cops can run stings on people like us.

Stings are only done on low IQ sex buyers who attend incalls

> Everyone gets caught. Incalls are banned. Outcalls can be classified as rape if you hand over money & then come onto them physically.

It's impossible for cops to catch outcalls

"it's impossible for cops to catch outcalls" JFL