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What's the science on this? Has it even been proven to exist?
 
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when they get raped
 
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Chad only
But seriously yes. Clit stimulation is an easier path to orgasm instead of penetration
 
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Yes. It's just rare.
 
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I’ve seen squirting in porn so I think so
 
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werty1457 said:
Chad only
But seriously yes. Clit stimulation is an easier path to orgasm instead of penetration
How is it measurable? When I rub one out, my penis emits semen. There is no proof that any woman has had an orgasm.
 
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Personalityinkwell said:
when they get raped
werty1457 said:
Chad only
But seriously yes. Clit stimulation is an easier path to orgasm instead of penetration
I've seen vids where dogs (dogpill) lick women to orgasm

it's pretty suicidefuel to know that women only get orgasms from being raped by Chad, or getting fucked or licked out by a dog
never began for the average or below average man
 
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If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound? I could never confirm firsthand if a woman does, so it's a pointless question.
 
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theson said:
How is it measurable? When I rub one out, my penis emits semen. There is no proof that any woman has had an orgasm.
except for squirting
 
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jonmoses said:
except for squirting
Squirting is fake. It is just piss.
 
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Dont they release water or something? idk
 
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theson said:
What's the science on this? Has it even been proven to exist?
That depends on what non-sperm methods you would accept as evidence. Rythmic contraction of the PC muscles? What would you accept as proof?

Personalityinkwell said:
when they get raped
Foids can and often orgams to low-inhib rapes but it's not a guarantee.

werty1457 said:
Chad only
But seriously yes. Clit stimulation is an easier path to orgasm instead of penetration

False dichotomy: penetration stimulates the hidden 90% (iceberg) of the clit, it splits into 2 tentacles lining the sides of the vagina.

The problem is that you need a combination of wide dick and arousal by the foid for that to work (arousal causes the PC muscles to transfer motion through the inflated vestibular bulbs into the inflated corpus cavernosa) so if she's not horny for you already it's not going to work.

For penetration orgasms to deliver decent stimulus to clit, pre-arousal must be attained by one or more of the following
1) she has chad in mind (if you're not chad, she better be able to fantasize that you're him, like she does with a dildo)
2) you got her horny through direct stimulation of the only external/accessible part of the clitoris (the glans, beneath the clitoral hood, her uncircumcised prepuce)
3) you got her horny through some other kind of erogenous zone like rubbing her nipples/lips/ears/etc foreplay. Not necessary for Chad, maybe for Chadlite but he'll need only 10% of the time other guys do.

Words2_live_bye said:
I've seen vids where dogs (dogpill) lick women to orgasm

it's pretty suicidefuel to know that women only get orgasms from being raped by Chad, or getting fucked or licked out by a dog
never began for the average or below average man

To be fair: can any of us say we've put in dog-esque efforts into licking?
 
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Female orgasm evolved to help big dicked Chad's sperm reach her eggs faster so incel competitors don't stand a chance passing on their inferior genes.
 
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jonmoses said:
why isn't it yellow?
The girls who do that shit in the movies drink a lot of water prior to the scene because that is the only way they can produce lots of urine. When you drink so much water you dilute your urine and it becomes clear like water. Try it yourself.
 
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Wizard32 said:
To be fair: can any of us say we've put in dog-esque efforts into licking?
dogs tongues are so much faster and shit at licking than any human
no man can compare
even seen vids where dogs drill women's pussies like crazy
not even pornstar chad can compare
plus their knots and penis sizes can be much bigger than the average man
jfl at being mogged by a dog
 
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Words2_live_bye said:
dogs tongues are so much faster and shit at licking than any human
no man can compare
Maybe we could get just as fast if we practiced as much as them? They're higher-effort than us. They can't use cups so they need to lap water out of bowls.

I bet if that's the only way we drank water we'd have fast tongues too, probably longer as well.
 
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theson said:
The girls who do that shit in the movies drink a lot of water prior to the scene because that is the only way they can produce lots of urine. When you drink so much water you dilute your urine and it becomes clear like water. Try it yourself.
damn what a letdown. what about chads that brag about making a girl squirt in real life (not porn), do the foids like prepare? kind of lifefuel that chads are getting pissed on and brag about it
 
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jonmoses said:
damn what a letdown. what about chads that brag about making a girl squirt in real life (not porn), do the foids like prepare? kind of lifefuel that chads are getting pissed on and brag about it
I have never heard anyone IRL talk about squirting.
 
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It does not exist. They just say it exists to try and explain why they want to have sex all the time. In reality, sex hurts for them but they do it to please Chad.
 
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Wizard32 said:
Maybe we could get just as fast if we practiced as much as them? They're higher-effort than us. They can't use cups so they need to lap water out of bowls.

I bet if that's the only way we drank water we'd have fast tongues too, probably longer as well.
well either way i don't care about licking out a pussy just to please a girl
i'd rather her orgasm from me fucking her
 
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theson said:
I have never heard anyone IRL talk about squirting.
I definitely have more than once throughout college heard guys brag about making girls squirt because sex is literally all people talked about at my college. I remember specifically one time a guy saying he had to change his sheets since they were soaked.
 
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jonmoses said:
I definitely have more than once throughout college heard guys brag about making girls squirt because sex is literally all people talked about at my college. I remember specifically one time a guy saying he had to change his sheets since they were soaked.
Either they lied to you, or the girl lied to them. Squirting is definitely fake.
 
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theson said:
Either they lied to you, or the girl lied to them. Squirting is definitely fake.
yeah i'd believe it, fucking disgusting then, all these guys getting pissed on like animals
 
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theson said:
How is it measurable? When I rub one out, my penis emits semen. There is no proof that any woman has had an orgasm.
Involuntary contractions of the genital muscles I'm pretty sure
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why isn't it yellow?
Drinking a lot of water
 
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Words2_live_bye said:
well either way i don't care about licking out a pussy just to please a girl
i'd rather her orgasm from me fucking her
"licking out" shows an improper focus anyway, the purpose of licking would be on the external nub of the glit (glans) to warm her up so that her inner clit inflates and then you fuck it
 
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werty1457 said:
Involuntary contractions of the genital muscles I'm pretty sure

Drinking a lot of water
I can twitch my penis voluntarily. Women can flex their pussy voluntarily. How do we know the twitching is involuntary and not faked?
 
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theson said:
I can twitch my penis voluntarily. Women can flex their pussy voluntarily. How do we know the twitching is involuntary and not faked?
Dawg IDK this is something you should research and not ask an incel forum
 
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Wizard32 said:
"licking out" shows an improper focus anyway, the purpose of licking would be on the external nub of the glit (glans) to warm her up so that her inner clit inflates and then you fuck it
i know i know
but still
 
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Words2_live_bye said:
I've seen vids where dogs (dogpill) lick women to orgasm
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Wizard32 said:
That depends on what non-sperm methods you would accept as evidence. Rythmic contraction of the PC muscles? What would you accept as proof?


Foids can and often orgams to low-inhib rapes but it's not a guarantee.



False dichotomy: penetration stimulates the hidden 90% (iceberg) of the clit, it splits into 2 tentacles lining the sides of the vagina.

The problem is that you need a combination of wide dick and arousal by the foid for that to work (arousal causes the PC muscles to transfer motion through the inflated vestibular bulbs into the inflated corpus cavernosa) so if she's not horny for you already it's not going to work.

For penetration orgasms to deliver decent stimulus to clit, pre-arousal must be attained by one or more of the following
1) she has chad in mind (if you're not chad, she better be able to fantasize that you're him, like she does with a dildo)
2) you got her horny through direct stimulation of the only external/accessible part of the clitoris (the glans, beneath the clitoral hood, her uncircumcised prepuce)
3) you got her horny through some other kind of erogenous zone like rubbing her nipples/lips/ears/etc foreplay. Not necessary for Chad, maybe for Chadlite but he'll need only 10% of the time other guys do.



To be fair: can any of us say we've put in dog-esque efforts into licking?

Smart reply tbh,

What do you think about dick size. Some normies cope by thinking that vagina is 5 inches deep so 5 is enough. What do you think about that cope?
 
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Personalityinkwell said:
when they get raped
You mean when they have sex with someone that isn't chad :feelshehe:
 
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cryptic__egg said:
You mean when they have sex with someone that isn't chad :feelshehe:
its a paradox
 
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Grothendieck said:
Smart reply tbh,

What do you think about dick size. Some normies cope by thinking that vagina is 5 inches deep so 5 is enough. What do you think about that cope?
I've read sources that say it's 3-4 inches (jfl) and others that say that fully aroused (presumably among white women) it's 7 inches.

Clearly from that study on ONS penis length preferences I'm going with the latter.
 
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Yes
They get orgasm from rape or when a 100 out of 10 looking Giga God Chad fucks their pussy with a 15 inch diamond covered dick in a luxury hotel room while she uses incel man as a bed.
 
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Yes but only when the dick is long, large, and hard enough.

The more guys they fucked with, the harder it gets to make them reach orgasm.
 
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Grothendieck said:
What do you think about dick size.
Some normies cope by thinking that vagina is 5 inches deep so 5 is enough.
What do you think about that cope?
It's hard to look at it as cope because it's based on misunderstood truth.

Vaginas ARE about 4-5 inches deep at RESTING state. That's because the womb (and it's entrance the cervix) rest low in the vagina when a foid is going about her day to day existence.

However when a foid is aroused, there are muscles that lift the womb (and cervix) higher up into the body, which causes the vagina to lengthen.

The important part here isn't the length of the vagina though. While there is a sense of touch in the vaginal walls, it's not the primary erogenous zone. The PEZ you'll find deeper into the tunnel is the pair of clitoris tentacles along the left and right walls.

There's also some erogenous zones in the middle (whether you call it G-Spot or A-Spot) along the top, but that's not particularly deep into the tunnel, you're basically just hitting the middle of the clitoris before it splits into the 2 tentacles. So you wouldn't need a long dick to hit the middle spot.

The clitoris is apparently about 4 inches long on average, but from illustrations I've seen, the internal branches are actually just moving away from each other (out to the sides, probably sitting not far behind the labia) rather than traveling perpendicular into the vaginal canal toward the womb, so I don't see how length would be particularly important in altering stimulation to it.

This is a new revelation for me, because I'll admit 1-2 months ago when I wrote a thread on this, I had preconceived assumptions about the clitoris' role in producing penetration-based orgasms, and had assumes they travelled inward/upward despite that clearly contradicting the majority of diagrams, not that I look ati t with fresh eyes.

If it plays a role, it's probably due to the billowy "bulb of vestibule" which the clitoris' cavernosa sit upon. Those seem to be a lot wider than the clitoris' cavernosa, so they billow out in front of and behind the cavernosa.

So here's my theory on what happens: it is the balloon-like cavernosa which play an important role in length actually mattering to how the clit is stimulated, since the clit itself doesn't go that deep beyond the entrance (which I will admit I had wrongly assumed it did, misunderstanding the anatomy angles of pelvic illustrations regarding internal non-visible anatomy)

What happens is this I think:
1) when your dick enters, it first puts pressure on the fronts of the bulbs, pushing them backward, and this pushes the clit's cavernosa backward...​
2) as it goes backward though, your dick goes beyond the backs of the bulbs, and your dick is more just pushing the bulbs (and thus clit cavernosa resting upon them) directly outwards​
3) then as you withdraw, your dick is pulling the bulbs toward the front, and thus the clit toward the front​

So basically, we need to think of this in terms of milking the vestibular bulbs of foids, and then it's actually their vestibular bulb's weird balloon movements which are fondling the cavernosa and crux of the clits' left and right tentacles invisible below the surface.

This is all pretty easy to discern by thinking critically about the explanation's of it's behavior at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulb_of_vestibule#Physiology

These bulbs are weird organs for us to relate to as guys. I know the clit having 2 parts seems weird but even though ours are attached, we still do have a pair of them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpus_cavernosum_penis

The male part analagous to the bulb of vestibule is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulb_of_penis and there's definitely just one and it's really small, so it's super-weird trying to relate to hose this part works in foids. They have a pair of them, and each is way bigger and thicker than that tiny thing we have around our urethra.

Basically if you think of the vestibular bulbs as tits, you're titty-fucking her bulbs, and the motions translate to her clitoral cavernosa on the sides.

Not just that though... see I believe before I erred in thinknig of the bulbs two-dimensionally. When you titty-fuck her bulbs they're probably going to expand upward as well as sideways (they meet in the middle with a narrow median band) and so they're probably also putting pressure on the underside of the middle of the clitoris as well (the G-Spot/A-Spot whatever) while also putting pressure on the Skene's Glands and Bladder.

What you need to understand though is that this is as much (perhaps more) a girth issue as it is a length issue. Girth (Width+Height) and Length multiply to create a 3-dimensional calculation of the volume of the Vestibular Bulbs you are able to move aside. The reason I think girth plays a larger role is that circumference of your dick is actually TWO dimensions (radiusxradius) whereas length is only one. So length should only be about 1/3 of the importance here.

What you also need to understand here is that Chad doesn't need girth like we do, because he pre-arouses foids with his good looks.

A foid's pre-arousal is of major importance here, because it dictates how enlarged her bulbs are with blood. If a foid is maximally aroused, you don't need much dick volume to transfer motion through the bulbs into her clit parts.

But if a foid is unaroused or only semi-aroused, her half-inflated sacks won't transfer the motions of your dick-volume through to her clit.

The tautness of the PC muscles also play a similar role. I've avoided discussing them (3 parts is harder to understand than 2) but it's basically a similar role in transfering motion except it's a matter of myofibrils contracting rather than blood being trapped.

cryptic__egg said:
You mean when they have sex with someone that isn't chad :feelshehe:
It is possible for a foid to refuse sex with Chad and for Chad to fuck her despite that. That is technically rape.

It just doesn't seem as "rapey" to us because foids more often have mixed feelings about the rape (despite the conscious choice to refuse, a deep part of her wants Chad's cock, so she's like 50% against 50% for) compared to rapes from non-Chad, where she's almost universally in consensus with herself about disliking it (like 95% against 5% for)

It helps if we look at consent as less of an absolute concept where it's 100% there or 0% there, because human thought and communication can be pretty complicated. Obviously it's generally better and more satisfying the nearer to 100% you get in consent though, even if such perfection is theoretically unattainable because as evil males all sex we do is somehow at least 1% non-consensual due to society power-imbalances (am I winning you over, 3rd-wave RadFem lurkers?)

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I've read sources that say it's 3-4 inches (jfl) and others that say that fully aroused (presumably among white women) it's 7 inches.

Clearly from that study on ONS penis length preferences I'm going with the latter.
Sounds like a false dichotomy: probably both is true. 3-4 inches unaroused, 7 inches aroused.

7 inches could also be a "depth from arousal to average test male though". It's not necessarily maximum arousal. If gigachad wants to fuck her with his 8inch cock, her body will probably find a way to get the muscle contraction needed to lift her womb/cervix the extra inch to avoid getting painfully rammed by his glans.

That said, I'm still thinking it's not actually the length which causes her to orgasm. Probably MENTALLY she's just more aroused by knowing it's big cock, and this makes her bulbs inflate with more blood and her PC muscles tigher, which makes his dick feel THICKER and stimulates her clit tentacles more.

But mechanically speaking, once you go deep enough, the tip of your cock probably isn't really transmitting forces to the PC>Bulb>Clits (nearer to the entrance, probably the first 3 inches or so) so I don't think there's really grounds to think it's actually doing much of the work of stimulating her in terms of actual kinetic force.
 
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Wizard32 said:
It is possible for a foid to refuse sex with Chad and for Chad to fuck her despite that. That is technically rape.
True but it will never be taken as seriously as if an ugly man does it, and the sentencing would be a slap on the wrist compared to what we'd get.
 
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cryptic__egg said:
True but it will never be taken as seriously as if an ugly man does it, and the sentencing would be a slap on the wrist compared to what we'd get.
Also true, because just as with there being differing levels of consent (or non-consent) and differing levels of assault, there are different levels of victimhood, different levels of rape.

Whoopi Goldberg understood that, thus the "rape, but not RAPE-rape" comment she got shit over.
 
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Wizard32 said:
clitoris tentacles

titty-fucking her bulbs



What you need to understand though is that this is as much (perhaps more) a girth issue as it is a length issue. Girth (Width+Height) and Length multiply to create a 3-dimensional calculation of the volume of the Vestibular Bulbs you are able to move aside. The reason I think girth plays a larger role is that circumference of your dick is actually TWO dimensions (radiusxradius) whereas length is only one. So length should only be about 1/3 of the importance here.

Chad doesn't need girth like we do, because he pre-arouses foids with his good looks.

A foid's pre-arousal is of major importance here, because it dictates how enlarged her bulbs are with blood. If a foid is maximally aroused, you don't need much dick volume to transfer motion through the bulbs into her clit parts.

> Tentacles
> Bulbs :feelswhat::feelswhat::feelswhat:
What's wrong with you foids, get your shit together JFL :lul:

I read all of that, quite interesting. What you said about dimensions doesn't makes much sense, but apart from that, I'd say you did a good job.
So the tldr is that if she likes you than 5-6 is enough.

Also what about "PC muscle exercises for ejaculation control" do you think those work for men? I just want to last longer when I'm fucking an escort, don't want to coom in 5 minutes and waste my money.
 
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When shes having sex with chad it does

 
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Grothendieck said:
What you said about dimensions doesn't makes much sense,
What was confusing? I was explaining how I was thinking a little to 2-dimensional (length/width) which we are prone to doing from flat illustrations instead of models.

I was correcting some misconceptions as I considered 3-dimensional (length/width/height) spatial relationships of organs.

Grothendieck said:
Also what about "PC muscle exercises for ejaculation control" do you think those work for men?
I just want to last longer when I'm fucking an escort, don't want to coom in 5 minutes and waste my money.
Both sexes have PC muscles, and there should be benefits to training them. I'm not really sure if you can use the skill to last longer. If you're escort-maxing already you max as well try it out. Even if it doesn't help last longer I'm sure it is valuable for other reasons like keeping a tight pelvic floor so you don't get hernias.
 
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Wizard32 said:
What was confusing? I was explaining how I was thinking a little to 2-dimensional (length/width) which we are prone to doing from flat illustrations instead of models.

I was correcting some misconceptions as I considered 3-dimensional (length/width/height) spatial relationships of organs.

You're implying Length(~ 1d) Girth(~2d) if I'm not mistaken. Yeah that makes sense if I think about it that way, sorry for misunderstandings.
Good post ngl.
 
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Wizard32 said:
It's hard to look at it as cope because it's based on misunderstood truth.

Vaginas ARE about 4-5 inches deep at RESTING state. That's because the womb (and it's entrance the cervix) rest low in the vagina when a foid is going about her day to day existence.

However when a foid is aroused, there are muscles that lift the womb (and cervix) higher up into the body, which causes the vagina to lengthen.

The important part here isn't the length of the vagina though. While there is a sense of touch in the vaginal walls, it's not the primary erogenous zone. The PEZ you'll find deeper into the tunnel is the pair of clitoris tentacles along the left and right walls.

There's also some erogenous zones in the middle (whether you call it G-Spot or A-Spot) along the top, but that's not particularly deep into the tunnel, you're basically just hitting the middle of the clitoris before it splits into the 2 tentacles. So you wouldn't need a long dick to hit the middle spot.

The clitoris is apparently about 4 inches long on average, but from illustrations I've seen, the internal branches are actually just moving away from each other (out to the sides, probably sitting not far behind the labia) rather than traveling perpendicular into the vaginal canal toward the womb, so I don't see how length would be particularly important in altering stimulation to it.

This is a new revelation for me, because I'll admit 1-2 months ago when I wrote a thread on this, I had preconceived assumptions about the clitoris' role in producing penetration-based orgasms, and had assumes they travelled inward/upward despite that clearly contradicting the majority of diagrams, not that I look ati t with fresh eyes.

If it plays a role, it's probably due to the billowy "bulb of vestibule" which the clitoris' cavernosa sit upon. Those seem to be a lot wider than the clitoris' cavernosa, so they billow out in front of and behind the cavernosa.

So here's my theory on what happens: it is the balloon-like cavernosa which play an important role in length actually mattering to how the clit is stimulated, since the clit itself doesn't go that deep beyond the entrance (which I will admit I had wrongly assumed it did, misunderstanding the anatomy angles of pelvic illustrations regarding internal non-visible anatomy)

What happens is this I think:
1) when your dick enters, it first puts pressure on the fronts of the bulbs, pushing them backward, and this pushes the clit's cavernosa backward...​
2) as it goes backward though, your dick goes beyond the backs of the bulbs, and your dick is more just pushing the bulbs (and thus clit cavernosa resting upon them) directly outwards​
3) then as you withdraw, your dick is pulling the bulbs toward the front, and thus the clit toward the front​

So basically, we need to think of this in terms of milking the vestibular bulbs of foids, and then it's actually their vestibular bulb's weird balloon movements which are fondling the cavernosa and crux of the clits' left and right tentacles invisible below the surface.

This is all pretty easy to discern by thinking critically about the explanation's of it's behavior at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulb_of_vestibule#Physiology

These bulbs are weird organs for us to relate to as guys. I know the clit having 2 parts seems weird but even though ours are attached, we still do have a pair of them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpus_cavernosum_penis

The male part analagous to the bulb of vestibule is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulb_of_penis and there's definitely just one and it's really small, so it's super-weird trying to relate to hose this part works in foids. They have a pair of them, and each is way bigger and thicker than that tiny thing we have around our urethra.

Basically if you think of the vestibular bulbs as tits, you're titty-fucking her bulbs, and the motions translate to her clitoral cavernosa on the sides.

Not just that though... see I believe before I erred in thinknig of the bulbs two-dimensionally. When you titty-fuck her bulbs they're probably going to expand upward as well as sideways (they meet in the middle with a narrow median band) and so they're probably also putting pressure on the underside of the middle of the clitoris as well (the G-Spot/A-Spot whatever) while also putting pressure on the Skene's Glands and Bladder.

What you need to understand though is that this is as much (perhaps more) a girth issue as it is a length issue. Girth (Width+Height) and Length multiply to create a 3-dimensional calculation of the volume of the Vestibular Bulbs you are able to move aside. The reason I think girth plays a larger role is that circumference of your dick is actually TWO dimensions (radiusxradius) whereas length is only one. So length should only be about 1/3 of the importance here.

What you also need to understand here is that Chad doesn't need girth like we do, because he pre-arouses foids with his good looks.

A foid's pre-arousal is of major importance here, because it dictates how enlarged her bulbs are with blood. If a foid is maximally aroused, you don't need much dick volume to transfer motion through the bulbs into her clit parts.

But if a foid is unaroused or only semi-aroused, her half-inflated sacks won't transfer the motions of your dick-volume through to her clit.

The tautness of the PC muscles also play a similar role. I've avoided discussing them (3 parts is harder to understand than 2) but it's basically a similar role in transfering motion except it's a matter of myofibrils contracting rather than blood being trapped.


It is possible for a foid to refuse sex with Chad and for Chad to fuck her despite that. That is technically rape.

It just doesn't seem as "rapey" to us because foids more often have mixed feelings about the rape (despite the conscious choice to refuse, a deep part of her wants Chad's cock, so she's like 50% against 50% for) compared to rapes from non-Chad, where she's almost universally in consensus with herself about disliking it (like 95% against 5% for)

It helps if we look at consent as less of an absolute concept where it's 100% there or 0% there, because human thought and communication can be pretty complicated. Obviously it's generally better and more satisfying the nearer to 100% you get in consent though, even if such perfection is theoretically unattainable because as evil males all sex we do is somehow at least 1% non-consensual due to society power-imbalances (am I winning you over, 3rd-wave RadFem lurkers?)


Sounds like a false dichotomy: probably both is true. 3-4 inches unaroused, 7 inches aroused.

7 inches could also be a "depth from arousal to average test male though". It's not necessarily maximum arousal. If gigachad wants to fuck her with his 8inch cock, her body will probably find a way to get the muscle contraction needed to lift her womb/cervix the extra inch to avoid getting painfully rammed by his glans.

That said, I'm still thinking it's not actually the length which causes her to orgasm. Probably MENTALLY she's just more aroused by knowing it's big cock, and this makes her bulbs inflate with more blood and her PC muscles tigher, which makes his dick feel THICKER and stimulates her clit tentacles more.

But mechanically speaking, once you go deep enough, the tip of your cock probably isn't really transmitting forces to the PC>Bulb>Clits (nearer to the entrance, probably the first 3 inches or so) so I don't think there's really grounds to think it's actually doing much of the work of stimulating her in terms of actual kinetic force.
How do you know the foid anatomy so well?

You a gynecologist?
 
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